I thought this was a really good idea until I thought about the electrical runs, and potential leaks from the screws. Best bet is to built a traditional 2x4 wall, 1 inch off the wall. Then have a pro spray foam it all. You get a much better R value, and a moisture barrier.
@buggsyspam the screws only go into the wall 2 inches and average concrete or masonary wall is 8 inches.plus concrete walls are not designed to keep the water out only as a solid base for construction .proper drainage with drain tile is your best defence against water leaking inside
Make sure there are no cracks or leaks before you begin... then drill plenty of holes in your wall to secure the furring strips! This is the worst way to finish a basement that I've ever seen.
@marri3d4life im a licenced red seal carpenter concrete walls are not designed to keep out water.you have to have proper drainage on the outside of your wall and proper drainage tile to do that.plus average concrete wall is 8 inches and your only drilling in 2 inches into the wall,not through to the exterior .this system works
What is ownescornings take on using 2x3's instead of 1x3's? It sounds like a good idea and I don't want to use surface mount boxes. Also we then have a gap for running wires. Or, do you make a 2" product like this? Should we install a vapor barrier on the wall?
I've installed quite a bit of this stuff in my basement. A few details:
1. It emits an extremely hazardous gas when it burns so it needs to be covered with something. I used mold resistant drywall.
2. You need to use a hammer drill and then some type of masonry screw (Tapcon works well). Just remember to use a good hammer drill. Old ones tend to required a longer drilling time which ends up making larger hole. This causes many fasteners to fail.
Ok, am I missing something here? Wouldn't you need to make pilot holes in a concrete wall using a hammer drill? I can't even make a dent with a regular drill.
I hate this pink color and logos all over. Get rid of the logos, and have one plain simple color that can go with everything, like grey, dark grey, black, or white. Poor people who can't afford panelling don't want to look at pink walls with a bunch of black writing all over it. Yeah, it actually becomes a factor when chosing this stuff, because it *is* what is going to get see on the inside.
@cobrachoppergirl What are you smoking? This is insulation, you'll cover it with drywall. If your not going to cover it you wouldn't even start insulating. That's like complaining about what color your blown in insulation is in your attic. Your mental!
I am planning on using this material for a small foyer. Is there any was to do two layers of insulation paneling? Or would I be better off framing and using the fiberglass rolls?
With reference to the foam insulation and a valid waterproofing agent applied to the basement structure - will the foam transfer moisture thru the interior basement wall to the fir strips and into the drywall?
@troybrownrigg If they put the prices up then people would see how bad there getting skrewed!!! That shit is over $20 a sheet!! Who can afford to use it for that much money?? Not this dude... I'll freeze first!! Fiberglass shit is way cheaper!!!
Your putting holes into the the foundation and a poured foundation is susceptible to expansion cracks. We installed furring strips in the 70s and see the failures in block foundations now. I do not like the system.
it is actually common to flat nail 2x4's to basement walls......meaning......it is not that hard to find everything you need to finish a 1.5" deep wall, including E-boxes. The main problem with that method is that the concrete walles are never that straight, making a seperate wall is many times a quality thing.
instead of using 1"x3" like she's using in the video, use 2"x3" which will create a space to run the electrical wire between the drywall and the insulation
Electrical wiring would run in conduit /raceways on the interior face of the wall finish material or through channels routed in FOAMULAR. Surface mounting offers better thermal performance. For more information on conduit/raceway options you might visit the ToolBase section on this topic.
I am also looking for something to control sound travel...The neighbors complain about drums/guitars played in my basement...
I have blocked the windows using 12" insulation, this muffled the sound.
I don't think this stuff will muffle at all because of it's hard surface which isn't designed to absorb sound, it will reflect...
I have ordered sound foam egg crate but haven't gotten it yet...Web site took my money and hasn't shipped yet...Eduardo M. is the idiot...Foambymail. com
@reditreefrogs Hello mate, my studio is close to street and get alot of noise in. I jus bought the OC 703s for my sound absorbtion, but i wanna know if i can sound proof my studio with this product (rigid insulation foam sheet) before hanging my OC 703. I also wanna knw if my sound will be affected or not
I thought this was a really good idea until I thought about the electrical runs, and potential leaks from the screws. Best bet is to built a traditional 2x4 wall, 1 inch off the wall. Then have a pro spray foam it all. You get a much better R value, and a moisture barrier.
buggsyspam 2 weeks ago
@buggsyspam the screws only go into the wall 2 inches and average concrete or masonary wall is 8 inches.plus concrete walls are not designed to keep the water out only as a solid base for construction .proper drainage with drain tile is your best defence against water leaking inside
madmanmillett 1 week ago
Make sure there are no cracks or leaks before you begin... then drill plenty of holes in your wall to secure the furring strips! This is the worst way to finish a basement that I've ever seen.
marri3d4life 1 month ago
@marri3d4life im a licenced red seal carpenter concrete walls are not designed to keep out water.you have to have proper drainage on the outside of your wall and proper drainage tile to do that.plus average concrete wall is 8 inches and your only drilling in 2 inches into the wall,not through to the exterior .this system works
madmanmillett 1 week ago
What is ownescornings take on using 2x3's instead of 1x3's? It sounds like a good idea and I don't want to use surface mount boxes. Also we then have a gap for running wires. Or, do you make a 2" product like this? Should we install a vapor barrier on the wall?
daveumbc 2 months ago
cool great thanks for sharing this video..i really enjoy watching it in how to install the insulator into the wall..!!
tan96993 3 months ago
Is this available in asia or are there any equivalents?
howtofinishabasement 7 months ago
I've installed quite a bit of this stuff in my basement. A few details:
1. It emits an extremely hazardous gas when it burns so it needs to be covered with something. I used mold resistant drywall.
2. You need to use a hammer drill and then some type of masonry screw (Tapcon works well). Just remember to use a good hammer drill. Old ones tend to required a longer drilling time which ends up making larger hole. This causes many fasteners to fail.
adisharr 8 months ago
3. My walls are about 8' and I used four screws per furring strip.
4. My cost per sheet was $11 at Home Depot (Rochester, NY).
5. This material breathes so it is a good choice if you have any mold issues.
6. Corners are a PITA due to the furring strip requirement. Be prepared to do some custom foam work :-P
adisharr 8 months ago
So you don't need a vapour barrier ? Ron Burgundy ?
NaziJuice 9 months ago
Is this stuff dangerous to inhale or leave exposed? Pink insulations have an infamous inhalant risk. This stuff seems fairly rigid and cheap, is it?
BlurredFace 10 months ago
Ok, am I missing something here? Wouldn't you need to make pilot holes in a concrete wall using a hammer drill? I can't even make a dent with a regular drill.
leglover00 10 months ago
I hate this pink color and logos all over. Get rid of the logos, and have one plain simple color that can go with everything, like grey, dark grey, black, or white. Poor people who can't afford panelling don't want to look at pink walls with a bunch of black writing all over it. Yeah, it actually becomes a factor when chosing this stuff, because it *is* what is going to get see on the inside.
cobrachoppergirl 11 months ago
@cobrachoppergirl What are you smoking? This is insulation, you'll cover it with drywall. If your not going to cover it you wouldn't even start insulating. That's like complaining about what color your blown in insulation is in your attic. Your mental!
viper8red 9 months ago
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I am planning on using this material for a small foyer. Is there any was to do two layers of insulation paneling? Or would I be better off framing and using the fiberglass rolls?
vedder316 1 year ago
Doesn't code say an outlet along a wall every 12'???
Garybk2 1 year ago
@Garybk2 You don't have to have receptacles in a basement.
viper8red 9 months ago
With reference to the foam insulation and a valid waterproofing agent applied to the basement structure - will the foam transfer moisture thru the interior basement wall to the fir strips and into the drywall?
Thanks for the video and the information.
Mark
steeltears 1 year ago
Owens doesn't put prices on the web site per sheet. Why in America is everything top secret to the point nobody want's to build anything anymore.
troybrownrigg 1 year ago
@troybrownrigg If they put the prices up then people would see how bad there getting skrewed!!! That shit is over $20 a sheet!! Who can afford to use it for that much money?? Not this dude... I'll freeze first!! Fiberglass shit is way cheaper!!!
rangaman86 1 year ago
Your putting holes into the the foundation and a poured foundation is susceptible to expansion cracks. We installed furring strips in the 70s and see the failures in block foundations now. I do not like the system.
showmehowvideos 1 year ago 11
This would have been good for my garage doors, but Home Depot didn't have it, so I used the 1" Foamular 150.
pinkyzoey 1 year ago
I wish my basement was that empty.
adisharr 1 year ago
it is actually common to flat nail 2x4's to basement walls......meaning......it is not that hard to find everything you need to finish a 1.5" deep wall, including E-boxes. The main problem with that method is that the concrete walles are never that straight, making a seperate wall is many times a quality thing.
d1incharge 2 years ago
look at 2:08 drywall build on top of insulation boards. So I ask again.where electrical wires and plumbing goes ?
dutchmaya88 2 years ago
haha......be sure you know if there is a crack....caulk all the holes......and install the pink....sounds like this broad wants a piece
favthings 2 years ago
so where will the electrical wires & plumbing go ? lmaoooo
dutchmaya88 2 years ago
instead of using 1"x3" like she's using in the video, use 2"x3" which will create a space to run the electrical wire between the drywall and the insulation
nprudhomme111 2 years ago
Electrical wiring would run in conduit /raceways on the interior face of the wall finish material or through channels routed in FOAMULAR. Surface mounting offers better thermal performance. For more information on conduit/raceway options you might visit the ToolBase section on this topic.
owenscorning 2 years ago
For more sustainable materials, better air quality and comfort homeowners have a better alternative with WEKA wool panels.
Onach17 8 months ago
Cheap sound barrier? Yup, this is the cheapest. go for it. works good.
01mustang05 2 years ago
Why is the lady wearing a dust mask?
mortier9 2 years ago
does this product eliminate sound at all? i play drums and am in need of something cheap to buy for my basement
stover81291 3 years ago
I am also looking for something to control sound travel...The neighbors complain about drums/guitars played in my basement...
I have blocked the windows using 12" insulation, this muffled the sound.
I don't think this stuff will muffle at all because of it's hard surface which isn't designed to absorb sound, it will reflect...
I have ordered sound foam egg crate but haven't gotten it yet...Web site took my money and hasn't shipped yet...Eduardo M. is the idiot...Foambymail. com
reditreefrogs 2 years ago
Is this two neighboring houses with seperate foundations?
proaudiohd 2 years ago
No, the neighbors house is 50 feet away from mine....She was just being difficult and decided to snap and walk over and complain...
I received the sound foam sheets and have installed them on all 4 walls and ceiling...It's amazing now!
The room has dead air and the bass, drums and guitars actually sound better because the over tone ring sound is gone...
The foam is 1 !/2" thick and came in sheets 72" X 72" ...$ 35.00 each....I used 12 sheets to cover almost the entire room.
reditreefrogs 2 years ago
@reditreefrogs Hello mate, my studio is close to street and get alot of noise in. I jus bought the OC 703s for my sound absorbtion, but i wanna know if i can sound proof my studio with this product (rigid insulation foam sheet) before hanging my OC 703. I also wanna knw if my sound will be affected or not
thanks alot
mic4rap 1 year ago