Mt Sinai in Saudi Arabia?

[againstjebelallawz]

There is, as of yet, no good evidence Mt. Sinai is in Saudi Arabia. Any claims to the contrary are refuted at the Against Jebel al-Lawz Wordpress blog (my own).

[jaimesssi]

Very Interesting.

What did they find in the "cave" related to Mose ?

Is it possible that Saudi or Others had already "erase" evidences !?

How is possible that NoChurch & Others "exist" in Saudi ??

How is possible that in the Name of Truth, TheWorld can do Nothing

Peace

[salzwell25]

This is so interesting!

[rrriu03]

Mt. SINAI in Egypt: New discovery of an human Face (NASA photosatellite)

See, please, a surprising image of human face with two horns.

Also a photo of a very huge human hand sculpted on two rectangles, all of them excavated on the hard rock of the Sinai zone in Egypt.

webspace.webring.com/people/or­/ramonetriu/sinai.html

webspace.webring.com/people/or­/ramonetriu/moises.html

[sugerdrops]

prophet muhamed said not even ahand width of land enlse it is mentioned in torah.he also in his way to tabuk he stopped at luz he said in this red heel the grave of mosess. but i read it in torah in gensis 28:18 Early the next morning Jacob took the stone he had placed under his head and set it up as a pillar and poured oil on top of it. 19 He called that place Bethel,[e] though the city used to be called(( Luz))

[Vmartin70EZ]

the religion practiced out of Rome and represented by Rome and the Popes it is false and anti-Christian just as well as the religions practiced by many others look at their deeds and actions and you will recognize the spirit at their chore

[XanatharEye]

"the enemy ain't saudi, the enemy around me"

[blackarawak83]

I don't want to diss anyone's beliefs but how can 2 milion people survive in a practically sterile environment for 40 yrs and just walk into Israel thereafter? Logic and maths just doesn't support this myth as factual.....This my honest opinion anyway.

[Vmartin70EZ]

@blackarawak83 how can the Bedouin survive in the desert? how can the traveling caravans of early times survive trekking the Sahara or the empty quarter in Saudi Arabia or the Gobi desert in China?? if you do not know these people intimately or have lived with them for some time then you are ignorant of their survival skills and those skills are part of a long line going back thousands of years to hunter gatherer societies of prehistoric times. survivalism was everyday life in those times

[spicer7120]

@blackarawak83

in the old testament it says that God provided them with mana and quail as food and at one time God provided them with water from a rock. but really if you dont believe in God or Christ, this wont make sense anyways. Christianity isnt about logic its about faith. If you try to Explain the bible and God with logic, you wont have much luck because if you can explain God then God cant really be God because then you would be on the same level as he is which is impossible.

[MrJamieLetourneau]

GREAT VIDEO!!!

[fuckChristian100]

KABBAH WAS BUILD BY PROPHET IBRAHIM AND MOSES CROSSES THE SEA GOING TO SAUDI ARABIA.... QURAN IS TRUE...

[jaimesssi]

@fuckChristian100

Hello, very interesting.

Could you help me .. What does mean in "Arabic"; IBRAHIM ?

Peace

[notwhoiwas]

Educate me on your faith please! Do you believe in the Messiah and who is the Messiah that you believe! I want to learn more about Moses beloved wife. Why people call the new covenant Jesus' book, and why Exodus does not supposedly exist. Have you been to Saudi Arabia? Please illuminate me because I seriously want to hear what you have to say, not to say anything negative. Not here to argue or fight just to listen and share.

[AKAMACK10]

the Arabic land was a trade passage for the ancient Egyptian go search that u could find the routes as well

[lizazoon]

There is zero evidence for the Exodus. Period

[forexfreak77]

@lizazoon

Even if one could not be convinced that the "miricles" ever happened surrounding this story, wouldn't it be a wise thing to at least explore the possibility that an "exodus" happened? Why is there Egyptian pictographs in Saudi Arabia?

Even an athiest should consider "reasonable" evidence of a culture that possibly existed. We know that Greek mythology is based off of true events, why shouldn't this be investigated?

A closed mind is terrible thing to waste.

Peace.....

[lizazoon]

@forexfreak77 -- Why is there Egyptian pictographs in Saudi Arabia?-- Why. because The Arabian peninsula was for centuries under Egyptian rule.

--Even an athiest should consider "reasonable" evidence of a culture that possibly existed-- Evidence is the only thing, that ever will convince atheists---.We know that Greek mythology is based off of true events--- Never heard of that one before !!!!

[forexfreak77]

@lizazoon

You missed my point completely. If you don't want to believe in God then fine. But why not "consider" that the bible could be "based" on true events? I don't believe in the Mayan religion but their ancient remains are amazing and we know that they were built "religious" purposes.

Greek Mythology is based off of true events BUT, "Turned into Myth and legend." NOT SAYING IT'S TRUE! All religions are based off of something true. That's all I'm saying. No need to take offense.

[forexfreak77]

@lizazoon Part two.

Kronos c.1715-1675 BC known by the Romans as Saturn was probably the Cretan king Satur who ruled at Knossos some time between 1725 and 1675 BC according to Linear A inscriptions.

At the time of Kronos the Idaean Dactyls lived around Mt Ida in Crete. One of the Dactyls was named Herakles and he may have been referred to on the Phaistos Disc which was found at Phaistos in Crete near Mt Ida and dates to about 1700 BC.

There, now you've heard it. Peace.....

[againstjebelallawz]

@lizazoon -There is no evidence that the Arabian Peninsula was ever under Egyptian rule. There is no evidence for Egyptian pictographs in the Arabian Peninsula, either. I assume you are referring to the Sinai Peninsula, where there were some Egyptian mines, w/pictographs.

[abbekhan]

Anyway MOSES is prophet of islam too and we respect and love moses more then our souls and body,Peace and blessings upon moses and his family amin,Moses wife was great arab lady from same aerea of mount sinai from midyan,i wish to see most holy place on earth,

[lizazoon]

There is no mount Sinai, because there never was an Exodus. Rabbis, Jewish archaeologists, the B.A. S., all state that as of this day, there is NO evidence for the Exodus.  It seems that they found a Menorah painted close to the supposed mount Sinai. That is proof of fraud, since the Menorah first appeared in Jewish history after the building of the first temple.

[lahij]

there is had mount sinai, like prophet muhammad had cave of hire, many islam muesum many religion museum are real,

[bahabeauty87]

hey i know this dude he acts on law and order

[abbekhan]

peoples count paul said this and paul said that but what jesus said ?Paul was nothing in front of jesus,i dont want to hear about paul,paul its non sense leave jesus,moses and paul come first,

[lizazoon]

@abbekhan : Moses has no books. There is no evidence for the existence of Moses.

[hamidabdulmalik]

@lizazoon There is no evidence for Dawinian evolution either, and i wonder why you guys strongly stuck to it till now.

[lizazoon]

@hamidabdulmalik ; What Madrassah have you been attending ? Did you ever visit a museum of natural history ?

[abbekhan]

blood etc ok in my new faith but it was forbiden in moses book even books before moses,Its great moment to think that old book was corrupted then came jesus and when he came no body belive to him how his little new book can be save in such situation all was his blood enemy then almighty sent complet law book again its mention in songs of solomon in hebrow book BY NAME ,,mohammed im, but jews,christians refuse both from truth,

[lizazoon]

Mount Sinai doesn`t matter, since Exodus is pure fantasy.

[ranmurong]

@lizazoon are you an atheist? if you think it's a fantasy, go live your own life. stop visiting pages like this and putting non sense comments. that way you won't waste your time and this pages' kilobytes.

[lizazoon]

@ranmurong : I repeat, it`s useless to look fort a Mount Sinai, when there was no Exodus. Prove the Exodus first. There is Zero evidence for the Exodus. If you don`t like my comments, man. go to videos I don`t comment on. There are plenty.

[lizazoon]

There is NO evidence for Exodus NONE. An email from the" Biblical archaeological society" on Jan 22 2010 confirms that there is NO evidence for the exodus. All those supposed findings are fake, childish nonsense.

[abbekhan]

Gambling,porr,blood etc etc lawfull in my new religion or in my new book?

These questions are only for wise,honest,inteligent brothers and sisters, I AM HONESTLY THANKFULL FOR KINDLY REPLY, THANKS,

[abbekhan]

I have simply questions IF ANY ONE INTELIGENT MAN OR WOMEN CAN REPLY ME,

1- Why almighty sent jesus to jews with little new book but jews have already one big complet law book laws from birth to death,

2- Did jesus said anywhere in new book i bring new religion for jews or non jews?

3- Did jesus said any where in any book that ,CROSS IS HOLY, put this cross on bank notes,coins,flags,churches etc etc?

4- Did jesus said anywhere in new book all forbiden things in moses book like,pork,adultry

[YHWHisElohim]

abbekhan,

1) G-d has a right to progressive revelation as He sees fit, and furthermore your assertion here negates the validity of the Quran: If the Tanach was the end of revelation, no Quran

2) No, it's not a new religion. The term "religion" is anachronistic to the Bible. The Bible is about relationship with the Living G-d.

3) Does your Quran tell you to put crescent moons all over everything?

4) No Yeshua didn't say that. This is a key place where my understanding differs from Christendom.

[abbekhan]

i didt understand what you said in your comments as i got it that i didt get answers of questions as i mention in my comments,Why jesus came to jews and what about mohammed by name in hebrow book songs of solomon and what about jesus he said in new book,Soul of truth shell come after me his bigest sign is honest and truthfull i must go then he come if i didt go he shell not come,Who is that soul and in moses book by name mohammed pbuh,

[1smidgie]

@abbekhan

1-God sent his son Jesus to be the the blood sacrifice for the sins of all mankind. (see 4)That is why we no longer have to offer animals on the alter. This is the New Covenant.

2-YHWHis Elohim is exacly right. Also in Romans 1:16, Paul says that salvation is for everyone who belives, first for the Jew, then for the gentile. this does not mean that Jews are better. John 4:22 says that salvation is from the Jews. The Messiah was a Jew.

[1smidgie]

@abbekhan

3- Jesus never said that the cross was holy, nor were we told to put it up places. It became holy symbolicly because of what took place on it. The Son of the Most High God willingly becoming a blood sacrifice for your sins, and my sins," Without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins." (Hebrews 9:22) That is what Christ did.

[1smidgie]

@abbekhan

4-yes He did! Jesus said in Matthew 5:17 that He did not come to abolish the law or the prophets, but to fulfill them. This means that the law of Moses, the ten comandments are still to be upheld. matthew 5:27 Jesus makes it clear that adultry is still wrong.

[1smidgie]

@abbekhan

As for the pork issue, you need to read Acts 10 and 11. This is where the Lord shows Peter in a vision all animals considered by the Jews to be unclean, and God tells peter to kill and eat, which were/are forbidden by the law to be unclean. The Lord tells Peter to not call anything He has made impure that He has made clean.

[akkafietje]

@abbekhan Jesus didn't write any book, like your Moh

[notwhoiwas]

@abbekhan I am not a priest,pastor,or rabbi, but a believer and follower of Jesus (Yeshua which means "salvation") Jesus cam to fullfill the scriptures not abolish. The word New does not originally mean Brand New, it is a renewal of the original covenant, so we have an old testament which is a covenant with God which was broken by disobediance,sin, and the perfect sacrifice Jesus, who could only be of God and God In Him, re-newed the covenant. You want more study the Word, The Holy Hebrew Bible

[abbekhan]

@notwhoiwas

Well i am too just like you but i only study christian faith very deeply but HONESTLY I SAW ONLY ERROR ALL OVER IN NEW BOOK,Christians belive on 3 gods father,son and holy ghost but if you compare moses book and jesus book you find differences like from east to west,moses book says like quran say YOUR LORD,CREATER IS ONE AND ONLY ONE but jesus book says TRINITY and says jesus is god but word GOD jesus,moses,isaq,ismeal,abraha­m,jacob never used in there whole life on earth,where

[abbekhan]

@notwhoiwas

god came from do you know it pleas?i know it,All abramic non abramic hindu,sikh,parsi,bhai,jews,mus­lims belive one LORD but new book have different story,All religions on planet didt claim our founder took our sinns but new book,All religions based on laws but new book have no laws as jesus said i came to complet moses book not new faith,In short term christian faith is not faith or religion at all it have no base laws,rules etc,christian must follow moses laws but they refuse it

[winterbird90]

@abbekhan its one religion its islam and all prophets were muslim jesus,Musa ,Mohammed and God is one Allah every thing else fake

[wtfjaftw]

@winterbird90 Funny, Allah was long before Muhammad was born, Islam was created by the Catholic church(which was both the Papal and the Greek orthodoxy) to wipe out any true believers in the East, no body of people who are from God would destroy and cover up so much information. And both sects of the false faith turned on each other when there was nobody left to fight. All the leaders of that religion do not follow their rules, they are lucifarians, or pagans.

[thyesprinter88]

that part (4:48 - 5:18) is speaking about Saudi Arabia and people of Saudi Arabia ............... but sorry those places , people and donkeys are not Sauides ............ they'd better make the things more real

[Glorthac]

If Hagar watered Mecca, then it is not the waterless valley the Jews travelled through to get to Jerusalem in Psalm 84:6! =p

[hottamale02]

The Gospel says Sinai is in Arabia...

Gal 4:25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.

Just like the gospel said the world was round and no one took the words of God literally. Isaiah 40:22

The sad truth is few people take the gospel seriously!!

[MrJamieLetourneau]

@hottamale02

I agree

[tjstvcv]

that can explain why it took so long to cross the desert.

[hottamale02]

Sinai is in Arabia.. And we know, why it took so long for the Hebrews to make it to the promised land, Israel... it was because God killed all the men over 20 for not listening to every word He spoke, instead of their own thoughts. God had to wait 40 years for the children to become men..

(Numbers 13)

[lizazoon]

@hottamale02 The exodus is fiction. It never happened.

[annie19645]

yes its a good chance, saudi arabia covers most of the middle eastern desert and there are many ancient bible cities there. I heard even Makkah might be mentioned in the bible

[Glorthac]

Mecca is not in the Bible. The reference Muslims use is in Psalm 84:6, which they try to translate Baca into Mecca, and say it is prophesying the circling the Ka'ba. Once you look at the context, you realize Baca is making reference to a waterless valley, which the Jews traveled through to get to Jerusalem.