own. AI will probably shortly have a superior command of esoterica in the way referencing Wkipedia does today. Then we get to a point where my very personal assistant HAL understands how better to utilize my mind and time, for my own good, than I do. It may become as if I'm abdicating my very consciousness to a disembodied HAL, who can't have an ulterior motive or conspiracy planned. Self awareness has been the standard where AI remains under human control. We start to worry when HAL starts
does in some sense substitute for reverie in the same way reading a book does. There was an aphorism something to the effect of "reading offers the discipline to
control where our thinking meanders" . AI might get to a point where our personal assistant HAL will live in the installation done on our homes throughout.
Hal will drill us, maybe on learning a language, carry on a discourse in some subject its database has a better grasp of then our
Its an interesting question but how can I tell what I might have thought otherwise w/o ever reaching that mode of thought to make that comparison against. Its sort of like
how do you know the economy wasn't improved with Obama's policies since it just might have gotten worse w/o them. Again like the multiple universes speculation.
If you don't like the original question of how it's changed you, then you could maybe think about how your internet behaviors make real-time differences in how you navigate the world -- both virtual and real.
I agree that you don't have a falsification control for the question, and your responses to it are necessarily subjective, but neither of those qualifications precludes thinking in depth about how the internet both augments and limits our options , does it?
I just can’t resist putting in my two cents about trolling. I’m talking about actual trolling, the worst, pushing buttons, gratuitous harassment, etc. The standard view is that it disrupts the honest, authentic, relation of the proper use and productive potential of the medium; the medium is only at fault insofar as it creates anonymity and this problem is basically solvable.
@lntertubes This is where I want to turn the tables and say that trolling is an abreaction to, and an unconscious but ineffective attempt to break through the autistic, solipsistic, digital “interaction” and it doesn’t believe in liberating any “useful productive potential” of the medium because there will be no alterity in it anyway, the other will still be desperately out of reach.
@lntertubes Saying “Well, if you don’t like it don’t use it” is a very limited approach that plays down that we’re confronted everywhere by a global-digital computation imperative.
I don't have allies particularly here on YT. I think Professoranton produces a lot of good content, but so do many others. I also try NOT to have enemies, but I do feel strongly about some issues, and there are those would rather resort to fast and savage name calling rather than calm conversation and logic to support their position...[I'm NOT referring to you, OK?[ That leaves either ignoring them no matter how outrageous they are, or remaining civil or leaving- NOT good options.
What the internet did for me is to give me things to think about and open up the pool of people I would generally come in contact with. It has given me a strong appreciation for the diversity of humanity. There is a ton of dross but I have learned to pick out the gems in it. I have also learned that no matter how intelligent they are, some people have no capacity for others disagreeing with their points of view. Most of all I have enjoyed interacting with similar minded people.
I first used the internet in middle school. It was a chore. I'm more and more becoming aware that its part of something very strange, a compulsion, imperative, collective hallucination, that possessed a portion of the human race. I'm betting it's reversible and September 9/11 was another crack in the fuselage.
I made a vid response to this yesterday - 7.5 minutes of babbling... not unusual for me but I want to re-do it. I'm looking forward to your video response to this.
1. Int. hasn't really changed the way I think, cos I'm aware that when it comes to dicussing ideas or scientific topic, anyone can post bs, dumb/misleading contents. I don't trust internet for deep stuff. But it's definately helpful for finding fuctional info. like cooking recipes, directions, product reviews, and so on..
2, no, but the number of hours I have to work determine the amount of time I spend online. 3. not really.
I have been into pcs since the late 1970s. Used the internet since it's inception, pretty much. The main way I think the internet has changed my thinking is it has advanced it. I have never had so much access to information (of all sorts). There is no subject in the world that I can't study with a few searches and clicks of my mouse. I think the internet is producing a modern-day intellectual renaissance. If it ceased to exist I would despair.
I don't think the internet changes the way people think as much as it changes the way people communicate with others around the world. One of the differences I see is if someone has a thought and share it, it can spread to others very quickly. Emotionally, I find it makes me not only more empathetic, but more cautious about the world around me.
Theres not enough characters. Youtube should make it where the person making the videos can choose what the character count is because some videos ask questions and its hard to write everything in one little box. Can't wait for your video on this subject! Im an internet-holic. Though I do have phases that I don't touch it for weeks. I've noticed that I'm happier when I don't get the news and I get my news online so I actually would probably have no clue about news if it wasnt for the internet.
It's hard to answer this question since I know that I have changed a lot but I'm not sure what should be credited with the internet or just me growing up.(I'm eighteen btw). In the past few years my ideas have been more concrete and I think some of that has to do with the internet. Also I think that the internet has helped me to expand my mind to new ideas that I would probably never heard of before. I read more now but I don't think that has anything to do with the internet. That's about it.
1. No; I'm 46 yo and have only been on the net for 2.
2. a; Yes b; I spend too much time on YouTube! I haven't read proper literature since I got on the web. But I also haven't ever read so much science as I do now. c; No.
I only got online in 2007 at home and pretty much in life. My dreams changed. Yes a lot changed and people are dumber but in many ways smarter and faster so it is fascinating! Hope you see cute cat faith dot com my new website. Best to you from France!
I spend too much time on the internet - It has had an overwhelming effect on the way I think and act - I watch and read lot of scientific stuff so I'd have to say it has increased my intellectual ability however when in social situations I often feel out of place - about to take a large break from the net so we'll see what happens to my social skills - until then...
1. It has changed what I can think. I have stopped remembering facts (numbers) and focus more on theory and ideas when I read about the world (physics and math mostly).
2. I always had internet access but I really didn't use it until I found Wikipedia - which had a spin-off effect to the rest of the net. Blogs can change how I think. TED-videos as well (and similar).
3. 500 signs to answer 3 tough questions... I have to trust that you'll understand and extrapolate the ideas behind my answers.
@MegaYippie I really mistrust Wikipedia. They give my nationality as wrong and I get criticized cuz more about me is NOT there. Huh? My work and writings are in so many libraries and museums and stuff it is crazy, but they want wikipedia?
Only got online in 2007.
Very good comment, yours, very good. Have a great day!
@MegaYippie I really mistrust Wikipedia. They give my nationality as wrong and I get criticized cuz more about me is NOT there. Huh? My work and writings are in so many libraries and museums and stuff it is crazy, but they want wikipedia?
Only got online in 2007.
Very good comment, yours, very good. Have a great day!
@MegaYippie I really mistrust Wikipedia. They give my nationality as wrong and I get criticized cuz more about me is NOT there. Huh? My work and writings are in so many libraries and museums and stuff it is crazy, but they want wikipedia?
Only got online in 2007.
Very good comment, yours, very good. Have a great day!
I think that the internet has affected the way I think. The conversations I've had w/ people from other nations & cultures on Skype has broadened my understanding of other people and removed some misconceptions I have had about them.
It has not changed the way I think, but it has stimulated thought about topics I would never have considered before. The internet emotionally, for me, is not a useful source to model, just the opposite actually. Great question, thanks for sharing it. Cheers.
Thanks for re-directing me to Edge. I haven't checked in on them in several months.
I liked what Pinker said (taking a "collectivist" view): "Fortunately, the Internet and information technologies are helping us manage, search and retrieve our collective intellectual output at different scales, from Twitter and previews to e-books and online encyclopedias. Far from making us stupid, these technologies are the only things that will keep us smart."
You always ask such interesting questions — underpinned with intriguing sub-posers from various opinion sources. I also appreciated your emphasis on personal testimony, rather than attempting a quasi-pseudo-faux 'objective' analysis — I find the personal really rich and engaging. I look forward to your thoughts on how the internet's changed you — and I hope to find a window to record a timely response.
I'd have to ask if "we" ever really did have this attention span that so many think we have lost? Are the things "we" have created, created because we don't have it?
The internet has changed my sphere of influence and potential for global interaction. It has enabled me to create in quite different ways. In some senses it brings us together in an essentially spiritual way in that our bodies are not much involved and so a much broader connection can be found. It hasn't changed the way I think, only the way I can express myself. I continue to develop and would with or without this medium. I have no idea if my age is relevant, since I can't try out several.
It's made me think in summaries more. If something can't be said in as few sound chunks as possible, I'm no longer interested. I'm talking about news or opinion pieces and not entertainment (like novels or stories). I even put DVDs on that 30% increase speed sometimes!
Many magazine and newspaper writers are too long-winded (include charts or illustrations to condense the information people!). It is not shallow info I want but simplified and clarified. And I'm not young gen y either!
In 1979 I'd wake up in the morning to a soggy newspaper; Gilligans Island and I Dream of Jeannie. Now I wake up to 5 TED lectures; political forums; specials on science and political topics; pertinent email correspondence and numerous instructional youtubes. Now I DO think.
HMMMMM, I guess you'll figure out the backwards sequence in my posts.
omegapointil 10 months ago
singing that Todd Rundgren song, "Hello its me" And if they singing it to each other
than look out, its Skynet time.
omegapointil 10 months ago
own. AI will probably shortly have a superior command of esoterica in the way referencing Wkipedia does today. Then we get to a point where my very personal assistant HAL understands how better to utilize my mind and time, for my own good, than I do. It may become as if I'm abdicating my very consciousness to a disembodied HAL, who can't have an ulterior motive or conspiracy planned. Self awareness has been the standard where AI remains under human control. We start to worry when HAL starts
omegapointil 10 months ago
I might venture to speculate that the internet
does in some sense substitute for reverie in the same way reading a book does. There was an aphorism something to the effect of "reading offers the discipline to
control where our thinking meanders" . AI might get to a point where our personal assistant HAL will live in the installation done on our homes throughout.
Hal will drill us, maybe on learning a language, carry on a discourse in some subject its database has a better grasp of then our
omegapointil 10 months ago
Its an interesting question but how can I tell what I might have thought otherwise w/o ever reaching that mode of thought to make that comparison against. Its sort of like
how do you know the economy wasn't improved with Obama's policies since it just might have gotten worse w/o them. Again like the multiple universes speculation.
omegapointil 10 months ago
@omegapointil
If you don't like the original question of how it's changed you, then you could maybe think about how your internet behaviors make real-time differences in how you navigate the world -- both virtual and real.
I agree that you don't have a falsification control for the question, and your responses to it are necessarily subjective, but neither of those qualifications precludes thinking in depth about how the internet both augments and limits our options , does it?
2bsirius 10 months ago
I just can’t resist putting in my two cents about trolling. I’m talking about actual trolling, the worst, pushing buttons, gratuitous harassment, etc. The standard view is that it disrupts the honest, authentic, relation of the proper use and productive potential of the medium; the medium is only at fault insofar as it creates anonymity and this problem is basically solvable.
lntertubes 1 year ago
@lntertubes This is where I want to turn the tables and say that trolling is an abreaction to, and an unconscious but ineffective attempt to break through the autistic, solipsistic, digital “interaction” and it doesn’t believe in liberating any “useful productive potential” of the medium because there will be no alterity in it anyway, the other will still be desperately out of reach.
lntertubes 1 year ago
@lntertubes Saying “Well, if you don’t like it don’t use it” is a very limited approach that plays down that we’re confronted everywhere by a global-digital computation imperative.
lntertubes 1 year ago
@lntertubes And your ally, professoranton is a lightly veiled salesman for it, like the early McLuhan...
lntertubes 1 year ago
@lntertubes
I don't have allies particularly here on YT. I think Professoranton produces a lot of good content, but so do many others. I also try NOT to have enemies, but I do feel strongly about some issues, and there are those would rather resort to fast and savage name calling rather than calm conversation and logic to support their position...[I'm NOT referring to you, OK?[ That leaves either ignoring them no matter how outrageous they are, or remaining civil or leaving- NOT good options.
2bsirius 1 year ago
What the internet did for me is to give me things to think about and open up the pool of people I would generally come in contact with. It has given me a strong appreciation for the diversity of humanity. There is a ton of dross but I have learned to pick out the gems in it. I have also learned that no matter how intelligent they are, some people have no capacity for others disagreeing with their points of view. Most of all I have enjoyed interacting with similar minded people.
squirrly001 1 year ago
I first used the internet in middle school. It was a chore. I'm more and more becoming aware that its part of something very strange, a compulsion, imperative, collective hallucination, that possessed a portion of the human race. I'm betting it's reversible and September 9/11 was another crack in the fuselage.
lntertubes 1 year ago
I made a vid response to this yesterday - 7.5 minutes of babbling... not unusual for me but I want to re-do it. I'm looking forward to your video response to this.
Elaina43 1 year ago
@Elaina43
Great! I look forward to it.
2bsirius 1 year ago
1. Int. hasn't really changed the way I think, cos I'm aware that when it comes to dicussing ideas or scientific topic, anyone can post bs, dumb/misleading contents. I don't trust internet for deep stuff. But it's definately helpful for finding fuctional info. like cooking recipes, directions, product reviews, and so on..
2, no, but the number of hours I have to work determine the amount of time I spend online. 3. not really.
shinyhardcrystal01 1 year ago
@shinyhardcrystal01 btw, not all online posters are phony. You are one of the few that actually post legitimate contents :)
shinyhardcrystal01 1 year ago
I have been into pcs since the late 1970s. Used the internet since it's inception, pretty much. The main way I think the internet has changed my thinking is it has advanced it. I have never had so much access to information (of all sorts). There is no subject in the world that I can't study with a few searches and clicks of my mouse. I think the internet is producing a modern-day intellectual renaissance. If it ceased to exist I would despair.
fishypaw 1 year ago
I don't think the internet changes the way people think as much as it changes the way people communicate with others around the world. One of the differences I see is if someone has a thought and share it, it can spread to others very quickly. Emotionally, I find it makes me not only more empathetic, but more cautious about the world around me.
HaleyMary 1 year ago
I just love 'The Edge' a long time already, and I buy their books with answers to yearly questions.
I can't say the internet has changed my mind fundamentally. I am happy with it for the information I can find, and, of course, for you tube.
dewinthemorning 1 year ago
Theres not enough characters. Youtube should make it where the person making the videos can choose what the character count is because some videos ask questions and its hard to write everything in one little box. Can't wait for your video on this subject! Im an internet-holic. Though I do have phases that I don't touch it for weeks. I've noticed that I'm happier when I don't get the news and I get my news online so I actually would probably have no clue about news if it wasnt for the internet.
slytherinspy1960 1 year ago
It's hard to answer this question since I know that I have changed a lot but I'm not sure what should be credited with the internet or just me growing up.(I'm eighteen btw). In the past few years my ideas have been more concrete and I think some of that has to do with the internet. Also I think that the internet has helped me to expand my mind to new ideas that I would probably never heard of before. I read more now but I don't think that has anything to do with the internet. That's about it.
slytherinspy1960 1 year ago
1. No; I'm 46 yo and have only been on the net for 2.
2. a; Yes b; I spend too much time on YouTube! I haven't read proper literature since I got on the web. But I also haven't ever read so much science as I do now. c; No.
3. No.
skinnyjohnsen 1 year ago
I only got online in 2007 at home and pretty much in life. My dreams changed. Yes a lot changed and people are dumber but in many ways smarter and faster so it is fascinating! Hope you see cute cat faith dot com my new website. Best to you from France!
slobomotion 1 year ago
I spend too much time on the internet - It has had an overwhelming effect on the way I think and act - I watch and read lot of scientific stuff so I'd have to say it has increased my intellectual ability however when in social situations I often feel out of place - about to take a large break from the net so we'll see what happens to my social skills - until then...
jxaxmxixn 1 year ago
1. It has changed what I can think. I have stopped remembering facts (numbers) and focus more on theory and ideas when I read about the world (physics and math mostly).
2. I always had internet access but I really didn't use it until I found Wikipedia - which had a spin-off effect to the rest of the net. Blogs can change how I think. TED-videos as well (and similar).
3. 500 signs to answer 3 tough questions... I have to trust that you'll understand and extrapolate the ideas behind my answers.
MegaYippie 1 year ago
@MegaYippie I really mistrust Wikipedia. They give my nationality as wrong and I get criticized cuz more about me is NOT there. Huh? My work and writings are in so many libraries and museums and stuff it is crazy, but they want wikipedia?
Only got online in 2007.
Very good comment, yours, very good. Have a great day!
slobomotion 1 year ago
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@MegaYippie I really mistrust Wikipedia. They give my nationality as wrong and I get criticized cuz more about me is NOT there. Huh? My work and writings are in so many libraries and museums and stuff it is crazy, but they want wikipedia?
Only got online in 2007.
Very good comment, yours, very good. Have a great day!
slobomotion 1 year ago
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@MegaYippie I really mistrust Wikipedia. They give my nationality as wrong and I get criticized cuz more about me is NOT there. Huh? My work and writings are in so many libraries and museums and stuff it is crazy, but they want wikipedia?
Only got online in 2007.
Very good comment, yours, very good. Have a great day!
slobomotion 1 year ago
@MegaYippie very sad my posting to you will not stick
slobomotion 1 year ago
I think that the internet has affected the way I think. The conversations I've had w/ people from other nations & cultures on Skype has broadened my understanding of other people and removed some misconceptions I have had about them.
DanaGarrett 1 year ago
It has not changed the way I think, but it has stimulated thought about topics I would never have considered before. The internet emotionally, for me, is not a useful source to model, just the opposite actually. Great question, thanks for sharing it. Cheers.
NLPNVC 1 year ago
Thanks for re-directing me to Edge. I haven't checked in on them in several months.
I liked what Pinker said (taking a "collectivist" view): "Fortunately, the Internet and information technologies are helping us manage, search and retrieve our collective intellectual output at different scales, from Twitter and previews to e-books and online encyclopedias. Far from making us stupid, these technologies are the only things that will keep us smart."
Optimistic, but largely correct, IMO.
AncientAtheist 1 year ago
You always ask such interesting questions — underpinned with intriguing sub-posers from various opinion sources. I also appreciated your emphasis on personal testimony, rather than attempting a quasi-pseudo-faux 'objective' analysis — I find the personal really rich and engaging. I look forward to your thoughts on how the internet's changed you — and I hope to find a window to record a timely response.
TheraminTrees 1 year ago
@variablast Sure I'm a BlastHead, but I never expected to find YOU here!
premed2 1 year ago
I think the internet just gave me more experience overall.
macwild1234 1 year ago
Technology is driving me like a fully charged teenager.
nocturnatritate 1 year ago
1) I think about more topics, but perhaps a little less depth than I used to. I am exposed to a much greater variety of ideas and information.
2) The internet is the driver for the changes - information on demand - if i can articulate the question or viewpoint, I have instant access.
3) I'm not sure...
MensRifleAssociation 1 year ago
I'd have to ask if "we" ever really did have this attention span that so many think we have lost? Are the things "we" have created, created because we don't have it?
tattooskin72 1 year ago
The internet has changed my sphere of influence and potential for global interaction. It has enabled me to create in quite different ways. In some senses it brings us together in an essentially spiritual way in that our bodies are not much involved and so a much broader connection can be found. It hasn't changed the way I think, only the way I can express myself. I continue to develop and would with or without this medium. I have no idea if my age is relevant, since I can't try out several.
Loreleila 1 year ago
It's made me think in summaries more. If something can't be said in as few sound chunks as possible, I'm no longer interested. I'm talking about news or opinion pieces and not entertainment (like novels or stories). I even put DVDs on that 30% increase speed sometimes!
Many magazine and newspaper writers are too long-winded (include charts or illustrations to condense the information people!). It is not shallow info I want but simplified and clarified. And I'm not young gen y either!
portantwas 1 year ago
In 1979 I'd wake up in the morning to a soggy newspaper; Gilligans Island and I Dream of Jeannie. Now I wake up to 5 TED lectures; political forums; specials on science and political topics; pertinent email correspondence and numerous instructional youtubes. Now I DO think.
newmac 1 year ago