(continued)...even when a conclusion is drawn, that project must be critiqued by multiple other individuals in the academic community in order to even be considered for publication (peer-reviewed journals). And publication is required to be taken seriously. Have you been through higher education? You would learn this.
Everything you've said in this video proves that evolution DOES happen. Well done and thank you! :)
There have been numerous empirical studies showing that the concept of 'acquired traits' (characteristics that change or are 'acquired' within an organism's lifetime) are an old myth. Look it up.
Also, contrary to your statement, there is more fraud in religion than science--this is because scientific theories are subjected to rigorous, repetitive, often multivariable tests and even when a conclusion...
Everything you've said in this video proves that evolution DOES happen. Well done! :)
You speak of fraud, but then insert opinion (your own). There is an abundance of fraud in science. Look at the manipulation of findings by food and drug companies in order to get acceptance. To say there is more fraud in theological studies than science is speculation on your part. There is indeed heresies in both. Meanwhile often the lies in one division is used to combat the lies in another, because there is no longer a standard of truth. Truth will indeed set you free.
there is more fraud in religious doctrine than in scientific enquiry (fraud being defined as incorrect or unverifiable information circulated as correct or based on sound reasoning and observation). the very terms used to describe theological knowledge, 'belief' and 'faith', illustrate the impossibility of certainty in dealing with those matters. the foundations of scientific knowledge, however, can be reduced to logically consistent and verifiable truths - 2 + 2 = 4 etc.
Yet the fraud in science is often what you base your fraud in religion perspective. BOTH are corrupted, no doubt about it. Unfortunately, both are readily accepted by people who haven't the sense to call the truth where they find it and the speculation where they find it.
You claim to be "Releasing Books to Build a Better Informed World!", but you demonstrate an inability to read text accurately, you resist correction of your errors, you parrot lies and ignorant assertions, you post inaccurate information about science and scientists,, you deliberately suppress and ignore obvious errors and contradictions in the Bible, you post false accusations and insults, and you avoid responding to valid refutations of your errors.
@Imaginefree69 485 characters is not space to debate/discuss this.
I have been using a iPad almost exclusively since it came out; it makes it kinda hard to say what I want because When I need to open another page to get info to debate with, the first page that I had open refreshes, and I lose my place, or forget what I wrote.
I might get like 3 messages, and reply the wrong answers, or forget to answer an important one. On a forum we can post links, and pics. What do you think?
I'm sorry that you have an inefficient system, but after all, you choose to use it for youtube discussions.
I am terminally ill and have very little energy. I am not prepared to start using another system, sorry. But I'll be here on youtube when I can and for as long as I can.
@Imaginefree69 Its not inefficient, it's just tedious. It's not that hard to start another system. I can start it if it's too much trouble. You seem to be doing well enough for a terminally Ill patient.
@Imaginefree69 I know about errors in the bible, and I understand where you aRe comming from. To believe everything in the bible takes blind faith. But how can anybody have faith when the history of the church speaks for itself?
I think the big bang theory sucks. Always did. And it really sucks when you realize it is a product of the church. The catholic church.
I don't think the bible says anything about the pope being god on earth.
But then again who are the masoretes? See I'm out of room
@Imaginefree69 I apologize for these replies but, I try to be unbiased as possible.
It sucks to read about the negative things that people say about religion but, there are at LEAST 2 sides to every story, And the most popular story is not always the correct one. We have free will; I try to read all that I can from several different points of view.
Not as much as it sucks to be raped or robbed by your pastor or priest.
Not as much as it sucks to believe a lie, to embrace a delusion,
to carry the burden of fear and shame hurled from a collection of Bronze Age myths and beliefs.
To split your mind so that you can look each other in the eye and, with a straight face, declare that the sadistic tyrant who has sworn to eternally torture most of humanity is the God of LOVE and mercy.
"Darwin's Theory of evolution was founded on the observation of mocking birds in the Pacific"
Your statement is a lie.
Whether based on ignorance or deliberate deceit I cannot say (though your silly dancing about with your claims of pre-Hebrew Isaiah text incline me to the latter), but it is certainly a lie. Darwin, along with other scientists of his day, had been working on that theory long before he ever made his amazing voyage to the Pacific, and birds were only one of MANY species studied.
@Imaginefree69. At Darwin's geological début, the anatomist Richard Owen's reports on the fossils showed that extinct species were related to current species in the same locality, and the ornithologist John Gould showed that bird specimens from the Galápagos Islands were of distinct species related to places, not just varieties. These points convinced Darwin that transmutation of species must be occurring, and in his Red Notebook he jotted down his first evolutionary ideas.
SUN ORBITS EARTH: The Bible says "The sun rises, and the sun goes down, and hurries to his place where it rose." Ecclesiastes 1:5 and then it says THAT means the sun went UP by ten degrees. "Isaiah.. cried unto the LORD: and he brought the shadow ten degrees backward, by which it had gone down in the dial of Ahaz." 2 Kings 20:9 - 11 "I will bring again the shadow of the degrees, which is gone down in the sun dial of Ahaz, ten degrees backward. So the sun returned ten degrees..." Isaiah 38:1-8
Even a good pagan should at least be honest in their Biblical analysis.The "ten degrees" is actually the Steps not dial of Ahaz. The steps of Ahaz have been located.They are a set of steps that have nearly right angles in the sections of steps. "Ten steps" is really a shadow effect created by a partial eclipse.THE TEXT clearly states the SHADOW reverses. It NEVER says the sun reverses.It is poorly taught by churches around the globe, meanwhile Gen 1:14 talks of times and seasons marking events.
I am truly disappointed in your pagan arguements. They are too easy to refute. Rev 1:7 says every eye will view the return of Christ. HECK that coud happen on Youtube!!!! Technology of the day allows for ancient prophecy to be proved true every day. Surf to Ted Whidden Isaiah 19 for an in depth analysis on how modern technology makes ancient prophecy happen......As for your loose Hebrew translation in Isaiah, the earth is "round", not circle. Most would agree this today, unless you refute!
I have received your snotty message via email. If you studied Hebrew for 3 years, and Bible for 40 and walk away as a pagan, then surely someone has let you down.Your ignorance is amazing. You are quoting your understanding of ancient Hebrew based on rabbinical studies which is a common error of man.The written Hebrew is not old enough to capture the text of Isaiah, and Isaiah was most assuredly written in another language. When you jump from so many poor translations "round" becomes "circle"
Your assumptions continue to be incorrect, as you must expect when they are based on ignorance and your own imagination. I have never studied "rabbinical" explanations of scripture. The fact that 40 years of study have led me to conclusions which differ from the denominational opinions you have been fed does NOˇ mean that I am ignorant or evil. As you demonstrated so clearly with your "It NEVER says the sun reverses", you have not even read the text.
The ignorance some portray astounds me. A man claiming to have studied Hebrew for 3 years, and Bible for 40 advises he is uninfluenced by rabbinical scholarship. Meanwhile Hebrew is the only ancient language ever resurrected. It was designed by and resurrected by rabbinically minded people. Your assertion that you have not studied rabbinical work is an oxy moron, and you sir are the moron.
Generally speaking, only young children and religious adults think that insults and accusations are meaningful arguments. The view of most mainline Xian seminaries is that the eyes of the Jews are wilfully blinded to the things of YHVH, so that it would be oxymoronic to study rabbinical writings if one wishes to come to the truth.
Therefore, my irrational antagonist, we studied the scriptures intensely for 4 years without once studying rabbi teachings.
Hebrew is clearly a language developed by rabbinical preisthood for the use in rabbincal works, then extended to the populace. It is the only ancient language resurrection and this was done by rabbinical priesthood. To say you study Hebrew and ignore rabbinical teachings is foolhardy.
Your superficial and imperfect read is likely influenced by your impaired and medicated condition. You assume the sun reverses so that it supports your hatred of the Text and the people, meanwhile if you are indeed terminally ill (as we all are) I would find a softer path and seek some truth in my beliefs, rather than remain an bitter soul. Eternal fire is a whole lot worse than your present state of being.
I decline to play your evasive, manipulative game.
You persist in personalizing the discussion as a means of avoiding the scriptures and issues I have presented. And you persist in posting lies about me.
"You assume the sun reverses"
Another lie.
The TEXT states that EXPLICITLY, as I have shown already.
"So THE SUN RETURNED TEN DEGREES...""
Isaiah 38:8
If that offends your denominational sensitivities, take it up with Isaiah.
"The written Hebrew is not old enough to capture the text of Isaiah"
What kind of irrational denial is this supposed to be?
If you have texts from Isaiah which are older than the Hebrew, and if you are fluent in that alleged earlier language, please expound your knowledge to us.
As, however, you are simply parroting some ignorant Creationist defender, I will stick to the Hebrew text, which does indeed "capture the text of Isaiah."
@Imaginefree69 The hebrew text? They got their book from the christains!
Whatever translations they have, they got them from the old testament.. I believe it is/was in Greek. And when I say old testament, I don't mean the Jewish version.
What does that say?
Of course they made it sound more "Hebrew" while translating it, but the fact is: the Jews got their book of law from the Gentiles.
"the Jews got their book of law from the Gentiles."
WTF???
Moses smoked an unidentified desert shrub, which gave him the idea for a brand-new god called YHVH. He needed this god for the political authority to lead the Hebrews on a blood-soaked orgy of rape, pillage, and genocide after they robbed the Egyptians.n He did, of course incorporate lots of the Pharaohic religion in which he had been raised and trained. Is this the "law from the Gentiles" you mean?
@Imaginefree69 What do we really know about history? All we know of is what the victorious wrote. People listen to the winners.. Not losers. How often do you see 2nd place winners in commercials?
There is NO PROOF that ANYTHING we have written is over 500years old.
BUT, if you do a little research into the history of the bible, you can read about the oldest translation called the septignaut (I know I misspelled it). Since the Jews had no book, they had to copy it! No lie!
"they got them from the old testament.. I believe it is/was in Greek. "
The OT was mostly written in Old Hebrew, dude.
Some was in Aramaic, but none of it was Greek.
The Hebrew scripture predate the Christian scriptures by 500 to 1,000 years.
There are no "original texts" extant, so the Bible is all edited versions of revisions of books that no longer exist. It's all man-made and it's mostly myth.
@Imaginefree69 It is the oldest of several ancient translations of the Hebrew Bible into Greek, lingua franca of the eastern Mediterranean Basin from the time of Alexander the Great (356-323 BCE).
The Septuagint was held in great respect in ancient times; Philo and Josephus ascribed divine inspiration to its authors. Besides the Old Latin versions, the LXX is also the basis for the Slavonic, the Syriac, Old Armenian, Old Georgian and Coptic versions of the Old Testament.
@Imaginefree69 See? You spent 40 years doing what? Why didn't you do some research beforehand? How could i know more about the history of the bible thAn you?
Do not worry about this blowhard. He is even a disgrace to pagans. His knowledge and understanding is so over blown in his own mind. He flames videos that soundly refute his beliefs and this must make him feel rather inadequate. He claims to have never studied rabbinical work, yet Hebrew itself is a rabbinaccly based language at origination and resurrection. How can any scholar deny such an obvious observation?
Please do not waste your precious time, because if you have nothing to say worthwhile, then you are wasting mine too. As the saying goes, do not go away mad, just go away. God will get you for the poisons you share.
@SolomonSeries Two days ago I said "You evidently have nothing to say on the topics of scripture or evolution, so I have no reason to waste my precious time on you." Today you say "Please do not waste your precious time" Once again you are a bit late on the draw. How sad. "God will get you" Bring it on, baby! Bring it on!! All yu lack is reality and evidence. Oh, HAHAHAHAHA!!!! 'Bye
@Imaginefree69 the fundamental rule of Textual Criticism is usually that the older the text, the better, and the complete Septuagint version of the Old Testament outdates the complete Masoretic Text version by 650-700 years. The Septuagint is representative of a 3rd century BC Hebrew text; the Masoretic is representative of a 7th-9th century AD revision of the Hebrew.
So you were referring to the relative ages of the extant manuscripts?
It would have simplified things if you had indicated that a bit more clearly, pardner.
Okay, I'm not sure how robust your arguments are, with the Dead Sea fragments of Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic all together, but , not to be rude at all, I'm not interested in spelunking past the resources in my library, in which the Greek and Hebrew translations were printed in the 1970s.
You can't make something that doesn't exist. Evolution says you can. Evolution says that an animal can sprout wings if the conditions are met... If that is possible... Then the wing data was already present in the animals DNA..that data MUST come from somewhere.
Very nice point, so DNA or intelligent design of the human or animal BY GOD is the only thing that could drive even the concept of adaptation!!?? This is kinda cool.
You seem not to realize that BYOU are handicapped.
Who do YOU blame?
Your emotion-driven clichés are ignorant and irrational. You don't even know your own Bible. It says that handicaps are caused by YHVH, an assertion I proved by scripture and which you are carefully avoiding. Please have the maturity to reply when people respond to your statements with evidence,
"There is nothing truthful in speaking about a theory."
Another irrational statement. Only your handicap prevents you from being humiliated by your own comments.
"It is called the theory of evolution."
That's correct, and if you had a high school education you would know what is meant by a scientific theory. It is the highest level of scientific understanding, as in Gravitational Theory, not, as you ignorantly believe, a guess or a hypothesis.
Handicapped people need something to blame. Someone to blame.
O.k. That was dumb of me to say what I said. I should have used my words... More carefully.
I used to blame God for everything that went wrong in my life. Eventually, I had to open my eyes. When I did, I saw that He was there with me the whole time.
God is already in you. It can't hurt to try and know His love. His love is always there. Just waiting for you to embrace it. Can't hurt to try
First, I was a Christian pastor and Bible teacher for over 40 years before escaping the delusion and embracing reality, so your assumption that I have not "tried" is wrong, as ignorant assumptions are so apt to be.
Secondly, embracing delusion DOES hurt people. The suicide rate among Christian youth is significantly higher than that of non-Christian youth. Your toxic fairy tales are one of the most hurtful creations of humanity.
@Imaginefree69 you are totally biased. You are focusing your anger towards the bible... Or church. Which, is understandable... But, you beef is with them.. Don't let it come in-between you, and knowing Gods love.
Yes, there is ignorance posted with every mention of the concept of Evolution. Evolution simply does not work, and the best evidence to support it seems to have been faked. If it were such a clear and simple concept as followers think, then why can't it be proven?
You deliberately ignore the FACT that Creationists, who claim to represent the god of truth, are well known to fake in order to fool uneducated people into embracing their lies.
Hovind, Wilder-Smith, Comfort, Cameron, Ham, Duane Gish, Walter Brown, Tom Willis, Fallwell, Bakker, Roberts, Popoff, Hinn, Cerullo, Swaggart, and Haggard are just a few of the Christian scandalous frauds.
In 1965 Dr. A. E. Wilder-Smith was exposed by real scientists as deliberately promoting the false claims that dinosaur and human footprints existed at Paluxy River. Illustrative of the determined ignorance and delusion of Creationists, his publicly exposed lies are still being taught by preachers and by pseudo-scientists such as Hovind and Comfort. These people spew their toxic lies even from their prison cells, yet Xians continue to swallow this vomit.
ImagineFree, I see that as I address your Biblical questions you remove the questions.Really, I do not blame you because you look really ignorant in light of truth.Your embarassment is warranted, and your ignorance can be overcome.Meanwhile, you refer to a geocentric universe and flat earth. Please give the Biblical context of your assumption so I can properly address your misunderstanding.My plan it to take all the questions in the order you gave them before you whimped out and removed them.
Like most Bible-defenders, you have no respect for the text, but casually replace written words with whatever happens to pop into your deliberately deluded minds.
I made no claim whatsoever for a geocentric universe in the Bible.
I mentioned only a geocentric solar orbit.
It is only your religious dogma that makes you think of our solar system as the centre and purpose of the universe.
Why don't you respond when I reply to your claims?
I'd like to hear what you have to say about the proven and exposed Paluxy River scam perpetrated by the so-called scientist AE Wilder and the ignorance spewed from his prison cell by Kent Hovind.
This is a direct response to your accusation against evolution that
" the best evidence to support it seems to have been faked."
Looks like the shoe fits the Creationist foot far better than the scientific foot.
Man has been here a long time. I saw a video a while ago about the bacterium flagella. It has a freaking motor inside of it. There is NO WAY evolution could make that.
"The miracle of God keeps revealing itself in science."
Nonsense.
Science explodes the fairy tales of the Bible.
Please provide scientific evidence for unicorns, talking beasts, a flat earth, a geocentric solar orbit, Noah's cruise ship for animals, men walking on water, the production of striped kids resulting from mating goats looking at striped posts, the 2 fathers of Joseph, and how 6 pm Friday to 6 am Sunday becomes "three days and three nights."
This is quite simple to address. Your questions do have error in them. Point number one the King James Bible DOES have the word unicorn in it, but this is a mistranslation.The latin word is clearly TORO which is bull, but the KJV was created from the easiest to translate and most widely accepted translation of the early 1600's.Unicorn is a KJV error.Note the NIV which uses the oldest translations clarifies this error.All questions of the Bible have simple clear answers. I chose your 1st. Next?
I have corrected MANY of your false assertions, but apparently you feel that silence is better than open discussion.
Please provide scientific evidence for talking beasts, a flat earth, a geocentric solar orbit, Noah's cruise ship for animals, men walking on water, visual causes of genetic characteristics, the 2 fathers of Joseph, and how 6 pm Friday to 6 am Sunday becomes "three days and three nights."
@ineedfiles "With evolution there are no worries about good or evil" Such determined ignorance. Evolution supplies all that is needed for the development of codes of conduct that preserve and facilitate survival and co-operation. Such sensitivities in no way support any particular god. In fact, as Christians believe that their most heinous acts will be magically vanished and forgotten via human sacrifice, they actually have very little incentive to act in a moral manner. That explains a lot, eh?
The theory of evolution appears to be held together by the so called "junk DNA".
DNA does not change. That is the duty of DNA; to keep the information for the future. Not to randomly mutate. And even if the DNA does mutate, it has been proven to have some sort of back-up that will enable the DNA to mutate back to the way it is supposed to be.
Evolution has NEVER and will NEVER be seen.
Natural selection makes makes specialized beaks, because that bird already has it in her DNA.
It just doesn't make any sense does it? Seemingly reasonable people try to convince us we came from monkeys, but they do not believe in God. People prove evolution does NOT occur, because modern man seems more easily lead than their predecessors.
You seem to be getting your "scientific" information from Kent Hovind, or another of those so-called "Creation scientists." Try a biology text next time.
If DNA never changed, we would all be identical.
There would be no babies with genetic defects.
Spontaneous immunities would not arise.
Learn about the topic before posing as an expert.
Your religious delusion is NOT a substitute for truth and reality.
National Academy of Sciences: "creation science is in fact not science and should not be presented as such." The Academy further states that "the claims of creation science lack empirical support and cannot be meaningfully tested."
Yes, people of science often say stupid things. Do you realize that "people of science" have not been able to figure out how ancient man piled up stone to make the pyramid of Giza? Seems simple for normal people. It is only complicated for the idiots we call scientists.
National Academy of Sciences: "creation science is in fact not science and should not be presented as such." The Academy further states that "the claims of creation science lack empirical support and cannot be meaningfully tested."
The basic problem, as Hovind exemplifies, is that the people who attack evolution have not actually studied it. If they did, they would see that there's nothing TO attack. It isn't a Satanic Conspiracy, it's simply the description of a process, providing a very useful taxonomy and a way to understand relationships. I see no way around this problem of ignorance. And it will become far worse if we allow these untutored people to drag our science education back into the bronze age.
@Imaginefree69 “In the distant future I see open fields for far more important researchers…. Light will be thrown on the origin of man and his history.”
(Darwin On the Origin of Species, 1859; Penguin edition, 1968, p. 458)
How do you know we aren't decended from bigfoot's? (lmao at the foot's)
The truth is: we don't know shit. And none of this will solve anything.
I have been reading 'history, fact or fiction'(Anatoly Fomenko)... And it's coming up with some pretty weird shit. The guy has been doing research for 20yrs, and he's smarter than both of us put together, with our brains hot-wired for max power.
@Imaginefree69 It doesn't take me 2 months to reply back. And then after the two months I don't blame it on other shit.
I embrace reality. So much In fact, that I don't believe shit that to do with "reliable scientific dating procedures". Have YOU ever READ anything about carbon dating?
Probably not. Because when you give the scientists something to date, YOU GIVE THEM THE DATE YOU EXPECT. Did you know that, mr. Big brain?
Of course not. Because like hawkings, you don't live in reality.
@Imaginefree69 im afraid this pitiful debate between us is over; either you are a scientist (who, for some reason hangs out at youtube?), or are you handicapped?
for us to make assumptions, and quote from other people is one thing. but to outright lie, is a totally different story. while at whatreallyhappened i found the little 2nd law of thermodynamics page they have there. good find.
i admitted that i got 2nd hand info, and used it without checking it.
@Imaginefree69 If Darwin could have proven anything he would have done so.
They don't know what killed the dinosaurs, but they "proved" it was a meteorite.
They don't know what causes aids, but they "proved" it was HIV.
They "proved" the towers fell like they had demolition charges inside of them, only because they were able to "prove" the steel melted at burning fuel temperatures.
They were able to blame it on the Muslims because they were able to "prove" it.
@Imaginefree69 I guess I'm reading it like this: "if I could tell you truth, I would. But I can't... Mostly because I can't prove it.. So I won't give you false beliefs... I'll leave that to the future."
@Imaginefree69 Ok, here's a question: first there was nothing, then something, then that something turned into 'life'. That 'life', evolved into creatures, who eventually became dinosaurs. Dinos were big bad, and ended up becoming less than.. Well, what they used to be. Horses and wolves.. Who isn't to say primates aren't watered down versions of us? We still have canine teeth, which aren't for eating apples.
@Imaginefree69 If they became extinct, then nothing else would be alive now would it? If you know biology, like you claim, then you would know that all of the animals here on earth descended from the dinosaurs. Am I wrong?
Darwin had a theory that has been proven wrong. He can be excused because he didn't know any better. Today's scientists knbow better. Evolution is a lie; the atheist's attempt to explain complex life forms without God.
@NewDirection4us "The evidence is the holy Bible" Which version of Creation in the Bible do you like best? Genesis Chapter ONE, in which humans were created AFTER plants and animals? Or chapter TWO, in which man was created BEFORE plants and animals? Chapter ONE, in which man and woman were created at the same time? Or chapter TWO, in which man was created before the plants and woman was created after the animals? Also, please explain how the emu and kangaroo got from Sidney to Tel-Aviv.
If evolution were true, then why have scientists faked so many of the "missing link" finds? Do people know that they combine skeletons to maintain the deception?
How can anyone believe in evolution? Some such as the posters to my videos at times are closely related to apes and such, but the majority of our guests are well adjusted people. Why can't truth prevail?
@SolomonSeries "Why can't truth prevail?" Because ignorant and fearful people cling to Bronze Age fairy tales in lieu if reality. The Bible says that humans are made of dust. And that snakes and donkeys talk. And that insects have 4 legs. And that the earth is flat. And that the sun revolves around the earth. And that all land species lived within walking distance of Noah's house. So the Bible is NOT a source of truth. And you are STILL avoiding the issues. Creationists use false evidence.
Darwin's theory with the birds/finches/mocking birds, overlooked the rain fall periods which cause the beak development to oscillate. There is more to this than what meets the eye.
what about the animals who have lost eyes, and skin color, because of cave life?
we have canine teeth in our mouths. and molars. AND incisors. those canine teeth say allot more than what people realize. molars, are for grinding, incisors, for cutting, AND canine teeth for tearing flesh. i was open minded with your website. be open minded with me.
why are they there? they aren't as sharp as a dog, or a cat, but they are still there. EVIDENCE..
You are leaping from the obvious I state to the obscure. There is a simple explanation for what I state and what I state is perfectly accurate, verifiable, and has been tested with the finches of the region, so it stands. You are introducing periferal arguments of your own rather than addressing the one presented here..........We'll talk teeth later..........Meanwhile, we tear flesh, grind our food, and have needs superficially for the exact combination that we have. It allows us to eat all.
@ineedfiles First of all Darwin proposed a THEORY .It is not fact cos it cannot be backed by good science, I can guarantee that. We have different teeth in our mouth bcos God created us to be omnivores(herbivores initially). Laws of entropy tell us every system tends to randomness. Evolution says out of chaos comes order, directly opposing the law of thermodynamics I quoted.
the first law (of thermodynamics), basically states that creation is no longer occurring, and the second states that the original creation is decreasing in organization, and complexity.
evolution requires a upward change, and the second law is a universal downward change.
evolution and the second law of thermodynamics cannot be both be correct.
"evolution and the second law of thermodynamics cannot be both be correct."
You just keep proving my point, that those who oppose evolutionary theory are ignorant of biology.
Your specious assertion falls down due to the elementary fact that the thermodynamic law you refer to applies only to a CLOSED SYSTEM, whereas the earth is an OPEN SYATEM, receiving enormous amounts of energy from our star.
It took you 2 months to come up with that? Anyways,.. I don't think you are looking at the big picture. Maybe im not. I have to do more thinking. I would be a TOTAL idiot if i didn't.
@diggiddi "as far as we know all changes are in the direction of increasing entropy, of increasing disorder, of increasing randomness, of running down." - Asimov.
Your argument sounds like it was made more than a 100 years ago. The way you could test Darwinism is wrong is very simple: grab 2 birds that naturally grow long straight beaks and then let them have baby birds in a controlled environment where they'd need long but thick and curved beaks to grab their food.
If what you say it's true, the new form of the beak would prove you right.
PS If you achieve that, and prove the science has it all wrong you could be awarded a Nobel prize.
im gonna have to disagree with you on that one. domestic dogs started out as wolves. you can now hold a mini doberman in your hand. and then there are those animals found in dark caves (Troglobites). they have heightened senses, no eyes, and no pigmentation.
i dont really believe in aliens but, if you were to take a humans and stick them in climate controlled spaceships, and they did nothing for thousands of years but look at monitors. ..ever seen a pic of a 'grey'?
Show me the experiment you did to show that the beaks of the same exact species of bird can develop completely differently depending on the type of food it has to go after. Otherwise you might as well assume the flying spaghetti monster is real because i say it is. But you see, if the same species of bird can develop different beaks then why do we not see the same species of birds in all the different islands and the different niches on these islands?
I use the example of thumb-suckers and I see we found one. It is rather simple to demonstrate. Get you some birds and try it. Within 60 days you will see different beak development in the same set of birds, depending on environment. It is the same as a child sucking their thumb. You don't get it do you? You aren't even bright enough to see the simplicity of the answer? Try it. You will see.
No I understand what you are saying but it is not correct.
1.) you are saying something occurs by merely saying it does. You do not provide any evidence. I know I can do an experiment but you have to show that experiment when you are claiming something.
2.) Also, you have to show conclusively why your theory is right and Darwin's is wrong.
You don't even understand how science works and yet you claim that a scientific theory is wrong and say im too dumb to understand.
Also, just because the beaks MAY be slightly different, that doesn't explain the overall picture of what Darwin was saying. For one, they were finches. You don't even understand the theory. These comment boxes don't allow enough room to show how you are so very wrong.
So you cannot demonstrate that I am wrong? The simple video allows me to demonstrate I am right. Any moron (except you) can follow the line of reasoning.
See this is the same thing that atheist have a debate about with creationist. You claim something then you tell us to prove it wrong while never providing evidence to support your claim, you only use what you say as evidence. Yes I can follow your reasoning, it is very, very simple but that doesn't hide the fact that you are wrong.
But allowing you to be ignorant at science I will show that your "guess" is incorrect. Lets test your guess as to what actually occurs. You say that the different beaks of the birds that Darwin observed were because the same species of bird's beak can change depending on the type of food it has to go after. If your guess is correct then we can assume that we will see the identical species of birds in all the different niches because their beaks can change through their life depending on the food
But then why is it that we only see different species of birds occupying the different niches and going after the different foods? We do not see the same species going after all the types of food present, only the ones their beaks allow them to get.
Can you show me a study on the Y-Chromosome that shows Humans and Monkeys have the same single nucleotide polymorphisms? if not than evolution is bogus
In all sincerity: I haven't heard this argument before. Why is it that they say there should be the exact same SNP's in monkey's and man's Y-Chromosomes?
There are many wacky claims based on models where devious scientists (???) have assembled the bones of several animals mixing the skeletal systems to pretend to find (deception) missing link issues. There is a lot of fraud in science, often because of financial incentives.
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Thank you! Many fear the questions they cannot answer or ask themselves. Thank you for your support. We merely pose a question here pointing to an assumption those who support these theories seem to h
(continued)...even when a conclusion is drawn, that project must be critiqued by multiple other individuals in the academic community in order to even be considered for publication (peer-reviewed journals). And publication is required to be taken seriously. Have you been through higher education? You would learn this.
Everything you've said in this video proves that evolution DOES happen. Well done and thank you! :)
drumobsessed 1 year ago
Isn't it amazing that you missed it?
SolomonSeries 4 months ago
There have been numerous empirical studies showing that the concept of 'acquired traits' (characteristics that change or are 'acquired' within an organism's lifetime) are an old myth. Look it up.
Also, contrary to your statement, there is more fraud in religion than science--this is because scientific theories are subjected to rigorous, repetitive, often multivariable tests and even when a conclusion...
Everything you've said in this video proves that evolution DOES happen. Well done! :)
drumobsessed 1 year ago
You speak of fraud, but then insert opinion (your own). There is an abundance of fraud in science. Look at the manipulation of findings by food and drug companies in order to get acceptance. To say there is more fraud in theological studies than science is speculation on your part. There is indeed heresies in both. Meanwhile often the lies in one division is used to combat the lies in another, because there is no longer a standard of truth. Truth will indeed set you free.
SolomonSeries 1 year ago
there is more fraud in religious doctrine than in scientific enquiry (fraud being defined as incorrect or unverifiable information circulated as correct or based on sound reasoning and observation). the very terms used to describe theological knowledge, 'belief' and 'faith', illustrate the impossibility of certainty in dealing with those matters. the foundations of scientific knowledge, however, can be reduced to logically consistent and verifiable truths - 2 + 2 = 4 etc.
bandroomspace 4 months ago
Yet the fraud in science is often what you base your fraud in religion perspective. BOTH are corrupted, no doubt about it. Unfortunately, both are readily accepted by people who haven't the sense to call the truth where they find it and the speculation where they find it.
SolomonSeries 4 months ago
You claim to be "Releasing Books to Build a Better Informed World!", but you demonstrate an inability to read text accurately, you resist correction of your errors, you parrot lies and ignorant assertions, you post inaccurate information about science and scientists,, you deliberately suppress and ignore obvious errors and contradictions in the Bible, you post false accusations and insults, and you avoid responding to valid refutations of your errors.
Hardly the path to being "better informed."
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 485 characters is not space to debate/discuss this.
I have been using a iPad almost exclusively since it came out; it makes it kinda hard to say what I want because When I need to open another page to get info to debate with, the first page that I had open refreshes, and I lose my place, or forget what I wrote.
I might get like 3 messages, and reply the wrong answers, or forget to answer an important one. On a forum we can post links, and pics. What do you think?
ineedfiles 1 year ago
@ineedfiles
I'm sorry that you have an inefficient system, but after all, you choose to use it for youtube discussions.
I am terminally ill and have very little energy. I am not prepared to start using another system, sorry. But I'll be here on youtube when I can and for as long as I can.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 Its not inefficient, it's just tedious. It's not that hard to start another system. I can start it if it's too much trouble. You seem to be doing well enough for a terminally Ill patient.
ineedfiles 1 year ago
@ineedfiles
It's great that my wit appears to be functional,
but I truly have limited time and energy,
and I really don't intend to accept any of the many invitations I receive.
Many very persistent requests, to tell the truth.
Ain't gonna happen.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 I know about errors in the bible, and I understand where you aRe comming from. To believe everything in the bible takes blind faith. But how can anybody have faith when the history of the church speaks for itself?
I think the big bang theory sucks. Always did. And it really sucks when you realize it is a product of the church. The catholic church.
I don't think the bible says anything about the pope being god on earth.
But then again who are the masoretes? See I'm out of room
ineedfiles 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 I apologize for these replies but, I try to be unbiased as possible.
It sucks to read about the negative things that people say about religion but, there are at LEAST 2 sides to every story, And the most popular story is not always the correct one. We have free will; I try to read all that I can from several different points of view.
ineedfiles 1 year ago
@ineedfiles
"It sucks to read about the negative things"
Not as much as it sucks to be raped or robbed by your pastor or priest.
Not as much as it sucks to believe a lie, to embrace a delusion,
to carry the burden of fear and shame hurled from a collection of Bronze Age myths and beliefs.
To split your mind so that you can look each other in the eye and, with a straight face, declare that the sadistic tyrant who has sworn to eternally torture most of humanity is the God of LOVE and mercy.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
"Darwin's Theory of evolution was founded on the observation of mocking birds in the Pacific"
Your statement is a lie.
Whether based on ignorance or deliberate deceit I cannot say (though your silly dancing about with your claims of pre-Hebrew Isaiah text incline me to the latter), but it is certainly a lie. Darwin, along with other scientists of his day, had been working on that theory long before he ever made his amazing voyage to the Pacific, and birds were only one of MANY species studied.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69. At Darwin's geological début, the anatomist Richard Owen's reports on the fossils showed that extinct species were related to current species in the same locality, and the ornithologist John Gould showed that bird specimens from the Galápagos Islands were of distinct species related to places, not just varieties. These points convinced Darwin that transmutation of species must be occurring, and in his Red Notebook he jotted down his first evolutionary ideas.
ineedfiles 1 year ago
@ineedfiles
Shouldn't this have quotes around it and be cited by author?
What the hell is a "geological début"?
You don't know either, right?
I am open to correction, but I believe those were finches.
And those were FAR from his first "evolutionary ideas",
as you would know if you had any knowledge of either Darwin or evolutionary theory.
Why do you do this?
Do other people not catch on when you post quotes about things you yourself are ignorant of?
You can do better than that. man.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
Even a good pagan should at least be honest in their Biblical analysis.The "ten degrees" is actually the Steps not dial of Ahaz. The steps of Ahaz have been located.They are a set of steps that have nearly right angles in the sections of steps. "Ten steps" is really a shadow effect created by a partial eclipse.THE TEXT clearly states the SHADOW reverses. It NEVER says the sun reverses.It is poorly taught by churches around the globe, meanwhile Gen 1:14 talks of times and seasons marking events.
SolomonSeries 1 year ago
@SolomonSeries
"It NEVER says the sun reverses."
Is this a deliberate revision of the text?
Or are you just quoting from a Creationist defence speaker?
Yes, it speaks of the shadow moving backwards.
Then it explodes your revision by explicitly stating
"So THE SUN RETURNED TEN DEGREES...""
Isaiah 38:8
Your refutation is based on either lies or ignorance, and fails accordingly.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
FLAT EARTH IN THE BIBLE:
Isaiah 40:22 says the earth is a CIRCLE (Hebrew CHUWG).
Circles are flat, see any dictionary.
(DURE is Old Hebrew for "sphere", but Isaiah used CHUWG)
Daniel 4:10-11a tree that is as tall as the heavens
can be seen from everywhere on the earth
Matthew 4:8 has Jesus viewing the whole earth from a tall mountain
Revelation 1:7 says every eye will see Jesus coming in the clouds.
Daniel, Matthew, and Revelation all require a flat earth.
Well, either flat or bowl-shaped.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
I am truly disappointed in your pagan arguements. They are too easy to refute. Rev 1:7 says every eye will view the return of Christ. HECK that coud happen on Youtube!!!! Technology of the day allows for ancient prophecy to be proved true every day. Surf to Ted Whidden Isaiah 19 for an in depth analysis on how modern technology makes ancient prophecy happen......As for your loose Hebrew translation in Isaiah, the earth is "round", not circle. Most would agree this today, unless you refute!
SolomonSeries 1 year ago
@SolomonSeries
" in Isaiah, the earth is "round", not circle"
No, the word is "circle", which means round and flat.
You carefully avoid my quotes from both the scripture and the Hebrew.
When Isaiah wanted to refer to sphericity he used the word DURE.
Here, however, he used CHUWG, meaning "circle."
Mere denial is not refutation, Sol.
Let's see a bit of EVIDENCE for your smug assertions, please.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
I have received your snotty message via email. If you studied Hebrew for 3 years, and Bible for 40 and walk away as a pagan, then surely someone has let you down.Your ignorance is amazing. You are quoting your understanding of ancient Hebrew based on rabbinical studies which is a common error of man.The written Hebrew is not old enough to capture the text of Isaiah, and Isaiah was most assuredly written in another language. When you jump from so many poor translations "round" becomes "circle"
SolomonSeries 1 year ago
@SolomonSeries
Your assumptions continue to be incorrect, as you must expect when they are based on ignorance and your own imagination. I have never studied "rabbinical" explanations of scripture. The fact that 40 years of study have led me to conclusions which differ from the denominational opinions you have been fed does NOˇ mean that I am ignorant or evil. As you demonstrated so clearly with your "It NEVER says the sun reverses", you have not even read the text.
Ignorance is not wisdom.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
The ignorance some portray astounds me. A man claiming to have studied Hebrew for 3 years, and Bible for 40 advises he is uninfluenced by rabbinical scholarship. Meanwhile Hebrew is the only ancient language ever resurrected. It was designed by and resurrected by rabbinically minded people. Your assertion that you have not studied rabbinical work is an oxy moron, and you sir are the moron.
SolomonSeries 1 year ago
@SolomonSeries
"you sir are the moron."
Generally speaking, only young children and religious adults think that insults and accusations are meaningful arguments. The view of most mainline Xian seminaries is that the eyes of the Jews are wilfully blinded to the things of YHVH, so that it would be oxymoronic to study rabbinical writings if one wishes to come to the truth.
Therefore, my irrational antagonist, we studied the scriptures intensely for 4 years without once studying rabbi teachings.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
There are people around us that are seriously deluded. Are you aware that you could be one of them?
SolomonSeries 1 year ago
Hebrew is clearly a language developed by rabbinical preisthood for the use in rabbincal works, then extended to the populace. It is the only ancient language resurrection and this was done by rabbinical priesthood. To say you study Hebrew and ignore rabbinical teachings is foolhardy.
SolomonSeries 1 year ago
Your superficial and imperfect read is likely influenced by your impaired and medicated condition. You assume the sun reverses so that it supports your hatred of the Text and the people, meanwhile if you are indeed terminally ill (as we all are) I would find a softer path and seek some truth in my beliefs, rather than remain an bitter soul. Eternal fire is a whole lot worse than your present state of being.
SolomonSeries 1 year ago
@SolomonSeries
"Your superficial and imperfect read..."
I decline to play your evasive, manipulative game.
You persist in personalizing the discussion as a means of avoiding the scriptures and issues I have presented. And you persist in posting lies about me.
"You assume the sun reverses"
Another lie.
The TEXT states that EXPLICITLY, as I have shown already.
"So THE SUN RETURNED TEN DEGREES...""
Isaiah 38:8
If that offends your denominational sensitivities, take it up with Isaiah.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@SolomonSeries
"The written Hebrew is not old enough to capture the text of Isaiah"
What kind of irrational denial is this supposed to be?
If you have texts from Isaiah which are older than the Hebrew, and if you are fluent in that alleged earlier language, please expound your knowledge to us.
As, however, you are simply parroting some ignorant Creationist defender, I will stick to the Hebrew text, which does indeed "capture the text of Isaiah."
What a nut.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 The hebrew text? They got their book from the christains!
Whatever translations they have, they got them from the old testament.. I believe it is/was in Greek. And when I say old testament, I don't mean the Jewish version.
What does that say?
Of course they made it sound more "Hebrew" while translating it, but the fact is: the Jews got their book of law from the Gentiles.
So therefore, what is the 'original text'?
ineedfiles 1 year ago
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@ineedfiles
"The hebrew text? They got their book from the christains!"
What??
Are you claiming that Isaiah was a Christian text, retrofitted into the Hebrew scriptures?
or what?
I can make no sense of your words.
But I remind you that it was YOU who said"
"The written Hebrew is not old enough to capture the text of Isaiah"
Maybe you'd like to elaborate on that?
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@ineedfiles
"the Jews got their book of law from the Gentiles."
WTF???
Moses smoked an unidentified desert shrub, which gave him the idea for a brand-new god called YHVH. He needed this god for the political authority to lead the Hebrews on a blood-soaked orgy of rape, pillage, and genocide after they robbed the Egyptians.n He did, of course incorporate lots of the Pharaohic religion in which he had been raised and trained. Is this the "law from the Gentiles" you mean?
Please be specific.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 What do we really know about history? All we know of is what the victorious wrote. People listen to the winners.. Not losers. How often do you see 2nd place winners in commercials?
There is NO PROOF that ANYTHING we have written is over 500years old.
BUT, if you do a little research into the history of the bible, you can read about the oldest translation called the septignaut (I know I misspelled it). Since the Jews had no book, they had to copy it! No lie!
ineedfiles 1 year ago
@ineedfiles
"they got them from the old testament.. I believe it is/was in Greek. "
The OT was mostly written in Old Hebrew, dude.
Some was in Aramaic, but none of it was Greek.
The Hebrew scripture predate the Christian scriptures by 500 to 1,000 years.
There are no "original texts" extant, so the Bible is all edited versions of revisions of books that no longer exist. It's all man-made and it's mostly myth.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 It is the oldest of several ancient translations of the Hebrew Bible into Greek, lingua franca of the eastern Mediterranean Basin from the time of Alexander the Great (356-323 BCE).
The Septuagint was held in great respect in ancient times; Philo and Josephus ascribed divine inspiration to its authors. Besides the Old Latin versions, the LXX is also the basis for the Slavonic, the Syriac, Old Armenian, Old Georgian and Coptic versions of the Old Testament.
ineedfiles 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 See? You spent 40 years doing what? Why didn't you do some research beforehand? How could i know more about the history of the bible thAn you?
ineedfiles 1 year ago
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@ineedfiles
"Why didn't you do some research beforehand? "
Are you serious?
That is the 40-plus years in which I *did* my research!
*shaking my head*
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
Do not worry about this blowhard. He is even a disgrace to pagans. His knowledge and understanding is so over blown in his own mind. He flames videos that soundly refute his beliefs and this must make him feel rather inadequate. He claims to have never studied rabbinical work, yet Hebrew itself is a rabbinaccly based language at origination and resurrection. How can any scholar deny such an obvious observation?
SolomonSeries 1 year ago
@SolomonSeries
When a respionsible adult has criticisms to make, he tells them to the person concerned.
That, BYTW, is what the Bible tells you to do.
You know the Bible- the book you claim to believe and obey?
Instead, you gossip about me and carry your false witness to the public.
Your issue-avoidance tactics are pathetic and unethical.
You evidently have nothing to say on the topics of scripture or evolution, so I have no reason to waste my precious time on you.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
Please do not waste your precious time, because if you have nothing to say worthwhile, then you are wasting mine too. As the saying goes, do not go away mad, just go away. God will get you for the poisons you share.
SolomonSeries 1 year ago
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Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 the fundamental rule of Textual Criticism is usually that the older the text, the better, and the complete Septuagint version of the Old Testament outdates the complete Masoretic Text version by 650-700 years. The Septuagint is representative of a 3rd century BC Hebrew text; the Masoretic is representative of a 7th-9th century AD revision of the Hebrew.
ineedfiles 1 year ago
@ineedfiles
Ah, I see.
So you were referring to the relative ages of the extant manuscripts?
It would have simplified things if you had indicated that a bit more clearly, pardner.
Okay, I'm not sure how robust your arguments are, with the Dead Sea fragments of Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic all together, but , not to be rude at all, I'm not interested in spelunking past the resources in my library, in which the Greek and Hebrew translations were printed in the 1970s.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@SolomonSeries
"They are too easy to refute"
Yes, if you are satisfied with twisting and mis-quoting the text.
Could you provide some EVIDENCE for talking beasts?
What with the flat earth and all
I'm not prepared to accept the unsupported testimony of scripture.
My grandpa once had a pet turtle
that played Edelweiss on the trombone,
but never with witnesses present.
It really frustrated Pops that no one believed him.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
You can't make something that doesn't exist. Evolution says you can. Evolution says that an animal can sprout wings if the conditions are met... If that is possible... Then the wing data was already present in the animals DNA..that data MUST come from somewhere.
ineedfiles 1 year ago
Very nice point, so DNA or intelligent design of the human or animal BY GOD is the only thing that could drive even the concept of adaptation!!?? This is kinda cool.
SolomonSeries 1 year ago
@SolomonSeries
"DNA or intelligent design of the human or animal BY GOD..."
There is no rational basis for this statement of religious dogma.
But keep spewing this nonsense, please-
it makes it SO easy for rational adults to recognize and reject your religion as deviant fairy tales.
As science continues to elucidate the processes of the universe, there are fewer and fewer dark corners of ignorance for your gods to hide in.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 Handicapped people should not be allowed to argue about whether God is real or not.
God plays an important role in their lives, but they blame Him for their misfortunes.
You would believe Stephen hawking; a man who has every reason to hate God, but not someone who is just stating the obvious?
Be glad you are alive. EVERY life is precious.
ineedfiles 1 year ago
@ineedfiles
"Handicapped people should not be allowed to argue..."
WTF are you, a Nazi?
They, too, wanted to limit the rights of the handicapped.
Or is it the censorship that appeals to you?
Another nazi strategy.
By what excess of arrogance do you presume to dictate who can and who cannot discuss the fairy tales of your religion?
You take care of your own life, young feller.
That will keep you plenty busy, without worrying about the attitudes of strangers.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 Its not my religion.
Knowing God has nothing to do with the bible.
I don't go to church.
Maybe handicapped people Are supposed to be THANKFUL for the life they have been given.
There is nothing truthful in speaking about a theory. It is called the theory of evolution.
The devil is cunning.
ineedfiles 1 year ago
@ineedfiles
"Handicapped people need something to blame. "
You seem not to realize that BYOU are handicapped.
Who do YOU blame?
Your emotion-driven clichés are ignorant and irrational. You don't even know your own Bible. It says that handicaps are caused by YHVH, an assertion I proved by scripture and which you are carefully avoiding. Please have the maturity to reply when people respond to your statements with evidence,
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@ineedfiles
"There is nothing truthful in speaking about a theory."
Another irrational statement. Only your handicap prevents you from being humiliated by your own comments.
"It is called the theory of evolution."
That's correct, and if you had a high school education you would know what is meant by a scientific theory. It is the highest level of scientific understanding, as in Gravitational Theory, not, as you ignorantly believe, a guess or a hypothesis.
Education dissolves religion.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 Nazi? U r so silly.
Handicapped people need something to blame. Someone to blame.
O.k. That was dumb of me to say what I said. I should have used my words... More carefully.
I used to blame God for everything that went wrong in my life. Eventually, I had to open my eyes. When I did, I saw that He was there with me the whole time.
God is already in you. It can't hurt to try and know His love. His love is always there. Just waiting for you to embrace it. Can't hurt to try
ineedfiles 1 year ago
@ineedfiles
"Can't hurt to try"
You are wrong on all counts.
First, I was a Christian pastor and Bible teacher for over 40 years before escaping the delusion and embracing reality, so your assumption that I have not "tried" is wrong, as ignorant assumptions are so apt to be.
Secondly, embracing delusion DOES hurt people. The suicide rate among Christian youth is significantly higher than that of non-Christian youth. Your toxic fairy tales are one of the most hurtful creations of humanity.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@ineedfiles
"they blame Him for their misfortunes."
And so they should, according to your book of myth.
You need to become familiar with the contents of that book,
if you really want to defend it.
According to the Bible, YHVH boasts of being the ONLY source of evil.
Be boasts that he alone creates evil and causes evil.
He boasts that he alone blinds eyes and deafens ears.
Jesus agreed that birth defects are arranged by your god.
And you want to prevent them from speaking the truth.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 You are WRONG.
Evil is to be WITHOUT God.
ineedfiles 1 year ago
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@ineedfiles
"Evil is to be WITHOUT God."
You appear to lack even the rudimentary amount of integrity to check with a dictionary before parroting silly religious clichés.
In English the word "evil" means "profound immorality, wickedness, and depravity."
In Hebrew the word "evil" means immorality or catastrophe.
In the Churchspeak of your religion people twist simple words into manipulative lies.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 you are totally biased. You are focusing your anger towards the bible... Or church. Which, is understandable... But, you beef is with them.. Don't let it come in-between you, and knowing Gods love.
ineedfiles 1 year ago
@ineedfiles
Spare me the sermons, thanks.
Religious folks tend to interpret disagreement as anger, but it is not. The Bible IS filled with contradictions and errors and fairy tales.
Why should we not speak the truth?
Now please stop perso
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@ineedfiles
"Evolution says you can."
Why do you post such obvious evidence of your ignorance?
Evolution says no such thing.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
Yes, there is ignorance posted with every mention of the concept of Evolution. Evolution simply does not work, and the best evidence to support it seems to have been faked. If it were such a clear and simple concept as followers think, then why can't it be proven?
SolomonSeries 1 year ago
@SolomonSeries
"it seems to have been faked"
You deliberately ignore the FACT that Creationists, who claim to represent the god of truth, are well known to fake in order to fool uneducated people into embracing their lies.
Hovind, Wilder-Smith, Comfort, Cameron, Ham, Duane Gish, Walter Brown, Tom Willis, Fallwell, Bakker, Roberts, Popoff, Hinn, Cerullo, Swaggart, and Haggard are just a few of the Christian scandalous frauds.
I'll give an example in the CONTINUATION
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 God still loves you
ineedfiles 1 year ago
@ineedfiles
"God still loves you"
Please do not spew your religious clichés at me.
Take another look at the title of this video and make some effort to stick to the topic.
You love to personalize the discussion by way of diverting attention from the fact that you have no evidence to support your defence of the Bible.
I reject your red herring and state confidently that your Imaginary Friend loves no one, being a fictional character.
Back to the topic...?
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@SolomonSeries
CONTINUED
In 1965 Dr. A. E. Wilder-Smith was exposed by real scientists as deliberately promoting the false claims that dinosaur and human footprints existed at Paluxy River. Illustrative of the determined ignorance and delusion of Creationists, his publicly exposed lies are still being taught by preachers and by pseudo-scientists such as Hovind and Comfort. These people spew their toxic lies even from their prison cells, yet Xians continue to swallow this vomit.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
ImagineFree, I see that as I address your Biblical questions you remove the questions.Really, I do not blame you because you look really ignorant in light of truth.Your embarassment is warranted, and your ignorance can be overcome.Meanwhile, you refer to a geocentric universe and flat earth. Please give the Biblical context of your assumption so I can properly address your misunderstanding.My plan it to take all the questions in the order you gave them before you whimped out and removed them.
SolomonSeries 1 year ago
@SolomonSeries
You seem to be so satisfied with your self-delusion that I am almost reluctant to shine in the light of reality, but it must be done.
You have caused me no embarrassment whatsoever.
Nor have I removed any questions.
I will gladly post the references for every assertion.
I note that you have decided to try to refute whatever I say, without giving yourself the trouble of first seeing what I have to say.
I appreciate that, as it shows all viewers your irrational prejudice.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@SolomonSeries
"you refer to a geocentric universe"
Like most Bible-defenders, you have no respect for the text, but casually replace written words with whatever happens to pop into your deliberately deluded minds.
I made no claim whatsoever for a geocentric universe in the Bible.
I mentioned only a geocentric solar orbit.
It is only your religious dogma that makes you think of our solar system as the centre and purpose of the universe.
Try to read the text AS WRITTEN.
It will aid your "logic".
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@SolomonSeries
Why don't you respond when I reply to your claims?
I'd like to hear what you have to say about the proven and exposed Paluxy River scam perpetrated by the so-called scientist AE Wilder and the ignorance spewed from his prison cell by Kent Hovind.
This is a direct response to your accusation against evolution that
" the best evidence to support it seems to have been faked."
Looks like the shoe fits the Creationist foot far better than the scientific foot.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@ineedfiles
You appear to be quite irresponsible.
Earlier you posted lies about Darwin, and when I asked you for the reference you admitted that you were merely parroting Creationist lies and gossip.
Yet here you are, still spouting lies and ignorance as authoritative fact.
No rational adult gives the slightest credence to the claims of someone with your public and proven track record of utter disregard for truth.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
Man has been here a long time. I saw a video a while ago about the bacterium flagella. It has a freaking motor inside of it. There is NO WAY evolution could make that.
ineedfiles 1 year ago
God created some of the most amazing spectacles that man has ever (or never) seen! The miracle of God keeps revealing itself in science.
SolomonSeries 1 year ago
@SolomonSeries
"The miracle of God keeps revealing itself in science."
Nonsense.
Science explodes the fairy tales of the Bible.
Please provide scientific evidence for unicorns, talking beasts, a flat earth, a geocentric solar orbit, Noah's cruise ship for animals, men walking on water, the production of striped kids resulting from mating goats looking at striped posts, the 2 fathers of Joseph, and how 6 pm Friday to 6 am Sunday becomes "three days and three nights."
Anti-scientific nonsense.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
This is quite simple to address. Your questions do have error in them. Point number one the King James Bible DOES have the word unicorn in it, but this is a mistranslation.The latin word is clearly TORO which is bull, but the KJV was created from the easiest to translate and most widely accepted translation of the early 1600's.Unicorn is a KJV error.Note the NIV which uses the oldest translations clarifies this error.All questions of the Bible have simple clear answers. I chose your 1st. Next?
SolomonSeries 1 year ago
@SolomonSeries
"The latin word is clearly TORO"
This is a red herring, a deliberate distraction to cause readers to overlook your evasion of the real issues.
The Latin word has nothing whatsoever to do with the discussion.
The KJV's "unicorn" comes from the Old Hebrew word REEM, the original meaning of which has been lost as Old Hebrew is a dead language.
Latin does not enter into it at all.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@SolomonSeries
Please tell me why Joseph is reported to have two different genetic fathers (Jacob and Heli).
Tell me how 6 pm Friday to 6 am Sunday equals "three days and three nights."
Tell me who visited the tomb Easter morning.
Tell me why Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 give mutually exclusive accounts of Creation.
Tell me how looking at a striped post causes sheep to produce striped offspring.
Tell me how Judas died.
Who purchased the Potter's field?
Who prompted David to take a census?
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@SolomonSeries
Why don't you respond to factual corrections?
I have corrected MANY of your false assertions, but apparently you feel that silence is better than open discussion.
Please provide scientific evidence for talking beasts, a flat earth, a geocentric solar orbit, Noah's cruise ship for animals, men walking on water, visual causes of genetic characteristics, the 2 fathers of Joseph, and how 6 pm Friday to 6 am Sunday becomes "three days and three nights."
Your silence speaks volumes.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@ineedfiles
"There is NO WAY evolution could make that."
Oh, really?
Please explain, with evidence and understanding.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
That information in a strand of DNA....
Where does all that information come from?
Where does information come from?
A "simple" human blood cell is more than simple.
Those human blood cells, were designed. The DNA is designed. Our eyes, ears, nose... Everything was put into place by somebody.
Just reading about what makes people believe in evolution is silly.
Waitaminute! Evolution kills God. With evolution there are no worries about good or evil.
Hmmmm
ineedfiles 1 year ago
You may be on to something. I wonder what others think?
SolomonSeries 1 year ago
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
The theory of evolution appears to be held together by the so called "junk DNA".
DNA does not change. That is the duty of DNA; to keep the information for the future. Not to randomly mutate. And even if the DNA does mutate, it has been proven to have some sort of back-up that will enable the DNA to mutate back to the way it is supposed to be.
Evolution has NEVER and will NEVER be seen.
Natural selection makes makes specialized beaks, because that bird already has it in her DNA.
ineedfiles 1 year ago
It just doesn't make any sense does it? Seemingly reasonable people try to convince us we came from monkeys, but they do not believe in God. People prove evolution does NOT occur, because modern man seems more easily lead than their predecessors.
SolomonSeries 1 year ago
@ineedfiles
"DNA does not change.."
You seem to be getting your "scientific" information from Kent Hovind, or another of those so-called "Creation scientists." Try a biology text next time.
If DNA never changed, we would all be identical.
There would be no babies with genetic defects.
Spontaneous immunities would not arise.
Learn about the topic before posing as an expert.
Your religious delusion is NOT a substitute for truth and reality.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
Is this true:
National Academy of Sciences: "creation science is in fact not science and should not be presented as such." The Academy further states that "the claims of creation science lack empirical support and cannot be meaningfully tested."
?
ineedfiles 1 year ago
Yes, people of science often say stupid things. Do you realize that "people of science" have not been able to figure out how ancient man piled up stone to make the pyramid of Giza? Seems simple for normal people. It is only complicated for the idiots we call scientists.
SolomonSeries 1 year ago
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@ineedfiles
National Academy of Sciences: "creation science is in fact not science and should not be presented as such." The Academy further states that "the claims of creation science lack empirical support and cannot be meaningfully tested."
Succinct and accurate.
Post it all over youtube, please.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
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Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 for some reason your comment was flagged as spam.
(i didn't flag it!)
evolution is junk. is should be called DE-Evolution.
darwin himself said evolution applies to all(?) animals, EXCEPT human.
i believe humans have been around for a long time... since dinosaurs.
maybe they don't want us to know (realize) we are a dying breed, created from a dying planet, circling a dying star.
ineedfiles 1 year ago
@ineedfiles
"darwin himself said evolution applies to all(?) animals, EXCEPT human."
Did he?
I'm inclined to doubt that,
or else to think that the context would be important.
Can you give us a reference for that quote?
Thanks.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 “In the distant future I see open fields for far more important researchers…. Light will be thrown on the origin of man and his history.”
(Darwin On the Origin of Species, 1859; Penguin edition, 1968, p. 458)
ineedfiles 1 year ago
@ineedfiles
"Light will be thrown on the origin of man and his history.”"
his shows Darwin's humility and his confidence that science will continue to collect and study data so as to continually increase out knowledge.
Darwin was well aware that biology was in its infancy when he was doing his research.
I hope this is not supposed to support your claim that
"darwin himself said evolution applies to all(?) animals, EXCEPT human"
because it sure doesn't.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 I didn't write the book. He did.
How do you know we aren't decended from bigfoot's? (lmao at the foot's)
The truth is: we don't know shit. And none of this will solve anything.
I have been reading 'history, fact or fiction'(Anatoly Fomenko)... And it's coming up with some pretty weird shit. The guy has been doing research for 20yrs, and he's smarter than both of us put together, with our brains hot-wired for max power.
There is no reliable method for dating.... SHIT.
ineedfiles 1 year ago
@ineedfiles
"I didn't write the book. He did."
Right.
And he did NOT say what you claimed he said.
That would make your claim a lie, now, wouldn't it?
If you embraced reality you would not have to invent lies to support your beliefs.
You really should take some biology courses if you want ti understand dating, evolution, and other scientific topics.
Spouting ignorance at the top of your voice proves a lot, but nothing that does you any good.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 It doesn't take me 2 months to reply back. And then after the two months I don't blame it on other shit.
I embrace reality. So much In fact, that I don't believe shit that to do with "reliable scientific dating procedures". Have YOU ever READ anything about carbon dating?
Probably not. Because when you give the scientists something to date, YOU GIVE THEM THE DATE YOU EXPECT. Did you know that, mr. Big brain?
Of course not. Because like hawkings, you don't live in reality.
ineedfiles 1 year ago
@ineedfiles
" Have YOU ever READ anything about carbon dating?"
I have done it in the lab, many times.
You seem to embrace your bigoted imagination while denying anything said by scientists.
How rational is that?
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 im afraid this pitiful debate between us is over; either you are a scientist (who, for some reason hangs out at youtube?), or are you handicapped?
for us to make assumptions, and quote from other people is one thing. but to outright lie, is a totally different story. while at whatreallyhappened i found the little 2nd law of thermodynamics page they have there. good find.
i admitted that i got 2nd hand info, and used it without checking it.
but i will NEVER lie about who i am!
ineedfiles 1 year ago
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@ineedfiles
You publicly accuse me of lying.
This seems to be the big gun in your arsenal;
posting false accusations against those you disagree with.
Please identify any lie I have posted.
Or withdraw your accusation and apologize.
One or the other.
Or, of course, demonstrate your lack of integrity for all to see.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 If Darwin could have proven anything he would have done so.
They don't know what killed the dinosaurs, but they "proved" it was a meteorite.
They don't know what causes aids, but they "proved" it was HIV.
They "proved" the towers fell like they had demolition charges inside of them, only because they were able to "prove" the steel melted at burning fuel temperatures.
They were able to blame it on the Muslims because they were able to "prove" it.
ineedfiles 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 I was speaking of rumors, that I was told was the truth.
On his deathbed rumors.
ineedfiles 1 year ago
@ineedfiles
"darwin himself said evolution applies to all animals, EXCEPT human."
That's a pretty definite statement.
When I challenged it you responded with an irrelevant passage,
and when I refused to accept that,
you now claim it was a rumour.
1- Why would anyone now believe anything you say?
2- you have shown yourself to be unethical and deceitful.
The behaviour of creationists is the best argument against the validity of their doctrines. After all, Jesus said to judge a tree by its fruit.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 yeah i said what i said. its there for anybody to read.
i will never delete my comments, or edit them.
but, thats what i get for believing, and quoting what i see on a video without actually fact checking it.
WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT, THAT SOMEBODY WOULD BE OUT TO DECEIVE THE MASSES?
ineedfiles 1 year ago
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@ineedfiles
"WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT, THAT SOMEBODY WOULD BE OUT TO DECEIVE THE MASSES?"
This "deceiver" was evidently a Crationist,
as the lie was against Darwin.
No surprises there.
Who knew?
Hell, educated people have long known that the Christian religion is out to deceive the entire world.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
The truth is simple and it will set people free. Check this out. Tell your friends.
SolomonSeries 1 year ago
@SolomonSeries
"The truth is simple and it will set people free"
That's an interesting thing to say in a thread which contains lies by a Creationist.
Yes, the truth is the path to freedom from delusion and lies.
That is precisely why I speak the truth about the Bronze Age collection of lies and fairy tales which Creationists embrace in lieu of reality.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
Why would anyone refer to the Bible as a Bronze Age collection of lies? Some people haven't a clue. What about you?
SolomonSeries 1 year ago
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@SolomonSeries
"Why would anyone refer to the Bible as a Bronze Age collection of lies?"
Because they have read the book and found it to be a collection of Bronze Age lies and fairy tales.
If you disagree, it would be much more rational to bring any evidence you kay have to correct my error.
Mere denial and insults have no effect upon the accuracy of my assertion.
Unicorns, talking animals, emus and kangaroos magically travelling from Sidney to Tel-Aviv for an ocean cruise...
Hardly factual.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
Darwin's idea of evolution was just that, Darwin's idea. Look at this closely and share it with your friends.
SolomonSeries 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 I had no idea I was quoting a rumor.
ineedfiles 1 year ago
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@ineedfiles
"I had no idea I was quoting a rumor."
I'm sure you have no idea how much of your denominational brainwashing is lies.
But people of integrity do not make public accusations against individuals without checking to see that they are true.
Creationists, of course, exempt themselves from this rule of common decency, because if they followed it they would have almost nothing to say!
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 And that's right, "light will be thrown on the origin of man"
"I can't do it, maybe somebody else can"
ineedfiles 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 I guess I'm reading it like this: "if I could tell you truth, I would. But I can't... Mostly because I can't prove it.. So I won't give you false beliefs... I'll leave that to the future."
ineedfiles 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 Ok, here's a question: first there was nothing, then something, then that something turned into 'life'. That 'life', evolved into creatures, who eventually became dinosaurs. Dinos were big bad, and ended up becoming less than.. Well, what they used to be. Horses and wolves.. Who isn't to say primates aren't watered down versions of us? We still have canine teeth, which aren't for eating apples.
ineedfiles 1 year ago
@ineedfiles
"Dinos were big bad, and ended up becoming less than.. Well, what they used to be. "
Most of them became... extinct.
I cannot give you a biology course here in these comments.
I seriously advise you to take a few biology courses at your local community college.
Attempting to discuss topics of which you are ignorant must be terribly frustrating.
And everyone who attacks evolutionary theory IS ignorant of biology.
Well, every one I have ever encountered.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 If they became extinct, then nothing else would be alive now would it? If you know biology, like you claim, then you would know that all of the animals here on earth descended from the dinosaurs. Am I wrong?
ineedfiles 1 year ago
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@ineedfiles
"If they became extinct, then nothing else would be alive now would it?"
Your ignorance is breathtaking.
America was derived and developed from England.
That does not mean the English are extinct,
and if the English HAD become extinct that would not alter the fact that Americans descended from the British.
My parents are "extinct", yet here I am.
Why do you try to discuss a topic of which you are ignorant?
Why?
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
Yes, you are wrong. Get used to it. If no one has told you that before now, I apologize. You need to know the truth, because it will set you free.
SolomonSeries 1 year ago
@SolomonSeries
Nice ducking and dodging.
Your words provide plenty of evidence that your educational claims are false.
Mere abuse and clichés are no substitute for evidence and reason.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
Charles Darwin put forth a theory on Evolution based on a rather simple premise. Look and see what he missed.
SolomonSeries 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 what educational claims did i make?
ineedfiles 1 year ago
None of your claims seems educated. Are you surprised? I am not. If you believe in evolution, then why is it so difficult to prove?
SolomonSeries 1 year ago
@SolomonSeries honestly.... no one is completely right... get used to it.
if no one has told YOU that before... I apologize.
ineedfiles 1 year ago
Darwin had a theory that has been proven wrong. He can be excused because he didn't know any better. Today's scientists knbow better. Evolution is a lie; the atheist's attempt to explain complex life forms without God.
NewDirection4us 2 years ago
@NewDirection4us
"Evolution is a lie"
All we need is your evidence.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 The evidence is the holy Bible, the word of God. It says God made everything, that it did not evolve. Good enough evidence for me.
NewDirection4us 1 year ago
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
If evolution were true, then why have scientists faked so many of the "missing link" finds? Do people know that they combine skeletons to maintain the deception?
SolomonSeries 1 year ago
@SolomonSeries
You avoid the request for evidence,
choosing attack as your alternative.
This is irrational-
there could be millions of fakes, yet the theory be perfectly accurate.
Yes, sadly there have been errors and dishonesty.
But Creationism is based ENTIRELY on lies and fakes,
such as the Paluxy River footprint scam by A. E. Wilder-Smith.
Yet Creationists still believe every thing this scam-artist spews.
Now, if you care to actually produce some evidence...
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
How can anyone believe in evolution? Some such as the posters to my videos at times are closely related to apes and such, but the majority of our guests are well adjusted people. Why can't truth prevail?
SolomonSeries 1 year ago
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Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@SolomonSeries
How about allowing the person I am addressing to respond?
The claim is common, but the evidence never seems to turn up.
Why do you suppose that is?
And why do Creationists engage in scams and deceit?
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
Present your reasonable questions in a reasonable manner and we'll address them below.
SolomonSeries 1 year ago
darwin himself said his theory fit all animals... except man.
ineedfiles 2 years ago
Darwin's theory with the birds/finches/mocking birds, overlooked the rain fall periods which cause the beak development to oscillate. There is more to this than what meets the eye.
SolomonSeries 2 years ago
what about the animals who have lost eyes, and skin color, because of cave life?
we have canine teeth in our mouths. and molars. AND incisors. those canine teeth say allot more than what people realize. molars, are for grinding, incisors, for cutting, AND canine teeth for tearing flesh. i was open minded with your website. be open minded with me.
why are they there? they aren't as sharp as a dog, or a cat, but they are still there. EVIDENCE..
ineedfiles 2 years ago
You are leaping from the obvious I state to the obscure. There is a simple explanation for what I state and what I state is perfectly accurate, verifiable, and has been tested with the finches of the region, so it stands. You are introducing periferal arguments of your own rather than addressing the one presented here..........We'll talk teeth later..........Meanwhile, we tear flesh, grind our food, and have needs superficially for the exact combination that we have. It allows us to eat all.
SolomonSeries 2 years ago
@ineedfiles First of all Darwin proposed a THEORY .It is not fact cos it cannot be backed by good science, I can guarantee that. We have different teeth in our mouth bcos God created us to be omnivores(herbivores initially). Laws of entropy tell us every system tends to randomness. Evolution says out of chaos comes order, directly opposing the law of thermodynamics I quoted.
diggiddi 1 year ago
@diggiddi well, what can i say?
the first law (of thermodynamics), basically states that creation is no longer occurring, and the second states that the original creation is decreasing in organization, and complexity.
evolution requires a upward change, and the second law is a universal downward change.
evolution and the second law of thermodynamics cannot be both be correct.
ineedfiles 1 year ago
@ineedfiles
"evolution and the second law of thermodynamics cannot be both be correct."
You just keep proving my point, that those who oppose evolutionary theory are ignorant of biology.
Your specious assertion falls down due to the elementary fact that the thermodynamic law you refer to applies only to a CLOSED SYSTEM, whereas the earth is an OPEN SYATEM, receiving enormous amounts of energy from our star.
Education cures pseudo intellectualism.
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 Hmmmm. They say earth is a closed system.but like you, I say it's open. I'll get back to you on this.
Off subject but: what would you say if I told you I think the earth is growing? I mean, where the hell are the tectonic plates gonna 'slide' to?
ineedfiles 1 year ago
@Imaginefree69 Education cures pseudo intellectualism?
It took you 2 months to come up with that? Anyways,.. I don't think you are looking at the big picture. Maybe im not. I have to do more thinking. I would be a TOTAL idiot if i didn't.
ineedfiles 1 year ago
@ineedfiles
"It took you 2 months to come up with that?"
No, I have known that for many years.I am terminally ill, and have been unable to use the internet for months.
It's interesting that you make such ignorant and arrogant assumptions-
my hiatus was NOT 2 months spent feverishly trying to come up with a reoky to your silly claims.
"what would you say if I told you I think the earth is growing?"
I'd say you were starting a red herring.
Then I'd ask you to show your evidence.
Why?
Imaginefree69 1 year ago
@diggiddi "as far as we know all changes are in the direction of increasing entropy, of increasing disorder, of increasing randomness, of running down." - Asimov.
ineedfiles 1 year ago
@ineedfiles de-evolution.
yes, now the teeth are making sense!
ineedfiles 1 year ago
its like our teeth!!! they seem to be solid but they can change theirs shape quite easily to puzzle the oposit ones!
sobal79 2 years ago
Nusgo posted
Your argument sounds like it was made more than a 100 years ago. The way you could test Darwinism is wrong is very simple: grab 2 birds that naturally grow long straight beaks and then let them have baby birds in a controlled environment where they'd need long but thick and curved beaks to grab their food.
If what you say it's true, the new form of the beak would prove you right.
PS If you achieve that, and prove the science has it all wrong you could be awarded a Nobel prize.
SolomonSeries 2 years ago
im gonna have to disagree with you on that one. domestic dogs started out as wolves. you can now hold a mini doberman in your hand. and then there are those animals found in dark caves (Troglobites). they have heightened senses, no eyes, and no pigmentation.
i dont really believe in aliens but, if you were to take a humans and stick them in climate controlled spaceships, and they did nothing for thousands of years but look at monitors. ..ever seen a pic of a 'grey'?
ineedfiles 2 years ago
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nusgo 2 years ago
Show me the experiment you did to show that the beaks of the same exact species of bird can develop completely differently depending on the type of food it has to go after. Otherwise you might as well assume the flying spaghetti monster is real because i say it is. But you see, if the same species of bird can develop different beaks then why do we not see the same species of birds in all the different islands and the different niches on these islands?
fatmon 2 years ago
I use the example of thumb-suckers and I see we found one. It is rather simple to demonstrate. Get you some birds and try it. Within 60 days you will see different beak development in the same set of birds, depending on environment. It is the same as a child sucking their thumb. You don't get it do you? You aren't even bright enough to see the simplicity of the answer? Try it. You will see.
SolomonSeries 2 years ago
No I understand what you are saying but it is not correct.
1.) you are saying something occurs by merely saying it does. You do not provide any evidence. I know I can do an experiment but you have to show that experiment when you are claiming something.
2.) Also, you have to show conclusively why your theory is right and Darwin's is wrong.
You don't even understand how science works and yet you claim that a scientific theory is wrong and say im too dumb to understand.
fatmon 2 years ago
Also, just because the beaks MAY be slightly different, that doesn't explain the overall picture of what Darwin was saying. For one, they were finches. You don't even understand the theory. These comment boxes don't allow enough room to show how you are so very wrong.
fatmon 2 years ago
So you cannot demonstrate that I am wrong? The simple video allows me to demonstrate I am right. Any moron (except you) can follow the line of reasoning.
SolomonSeries 2 years ago
See this is the same thing that atheist have a debate about with creationist. You claim something then you tell us to prove it wrong while never providing evidence to support your claim, you only use what you say as evidence. Yes I can follow your reasoning, it is very, very simple but that doesn't hide the fact that you are wrong.
fatmon 2 years ago
No, you are too dumb.
SolomonSeries 2 years ago
But allowing you to be ignorant at science I will show that your "guess" is incorrect. Lets test your guess as to what actually occurs. You say that the different beaks of the birds that Darwin observed were because the same species of bird's beak can change depending on the type of food it has to go after. If your guess is correct then we can assume that we will see the identical species of birds in all the different niches because their beaks can change through their life depending on the food
fatmon 2 years ago
But then why is it that we only see different species of birds occupying the different niches and going after the different foods? We do not see the same species going after all the types of food present, only the ones their beaks allow them to get.
fatmon 2 years ago
Can you show me a study on the Y-Chromosome that shows Humans and Monkeys have the same single nucleotide polymorphisms? if not than evolution is bogus
royalty49 2 years ago
In all sincerity: I haven't heard this argument before. Why is it that they say there should be the exact same SNP's in monkey's and man's Y-Chromosomes?
fatmon 2 years ago
There are many wacky claims based on models where devious scientists (???) have assembled the bones of several animals mixing the skeletal systems to pretend to find (deception) missing link issues. There is a lot of fraud in science, often because of financial incentives.
SolomonSeries 1 year ago
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RealityofThings 2 years ago
Thank you! Many fear the questions they cannot answer or ask themselves. Thank you for your support. We merely pose a question here pointing to an assumption those who support these theories seem to h