Secret and Whisper - Vanishings Live

[rockfusion11]

The bassist vox are HORRIBLE in all of the live videos...really takes away from the strong lead vox.

[foilheadboy]

OMG, i want to rip my heart out because I want to blast, but EVERYONE is SLEEPING. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

[FloatingFireworks]

impressive!!! i listened to the cd and i was like "this is AWESOME! but there is no way the lead singer can hit these nots live" but he actually does cuz he is a super beast along with the rest fo the band. very good

[Kembawl42]

He just needs to move around. He's lingering. And it's weird. Great music though.

[jopa342]

@Kembawl42 thats just fine..he needs his energy to hit those high notes instead of jumping around.

[xSmittyxCorex]

on the one hand, i agree, he needs to move, ont he other hand, given their success dispite that, this gives MY band hope haha we just got a new singer and thats the only comment we've had for him: you need work on your pressence

[groovewhiz]

There's a bogus rumor going on about how Jordan the bass player can't sing. He hit every note, that's just how the parts are written. They're harmonies with pitch bends. Also, he's not supposed to be the star vocalist, he's just adding color and doing a damn good job if you'd get your head out of your ass and listen to the overall song. You don't understand this music if you're complaining. Also Charles, the lead vocalist doesn't have stage fright, it's called being composed and not being a spaz

[illgosailing]

@groovewhiz i agree with everything you said. especially about jordan. he is hitting everything perfect in comparison to the album, he is just louder live, and therefore people notice it more. but they would rather complain and try to point out a bands flaws than appreciate the creativity of the band.

[crazrussian09]

how does, singing this, not make you wanna go crazy or at least bend over to emphasize he's singing hard. What is wrong with this singer?

[xXJamieRawrXx]

@crazrussian09

its easier, bending over constricts air

[MrWestie194]

@crazrussian09 too awesome

[AllMightyBosch]

it looks like the singer has strange fight

[YahIDontKnow]

bassist needs to stop singing, otherwise great. Theres always someone in a band who wants to sing, who just fuckin cant, In my experience at least.

[dielonisshifty]

b/s he can't

[dielonisshifty]

I beg to differ, the bassist is a good singer, after touring for months playing shows almost every night, the voice get's sore don't ya know.

[YahIDontKnow]

@dielonisshifty

Well lets put it this way, the main singer is singing in an incredibly high range, stretching his voice to the extreme everynight and he sounds great. The other guy is singing in a normal, unstrenious fashion, and somehow his voice is the one thats gone? Thats the difference between a professional singer, and somehow who doesnt know what their doing. And if its because hes screaming that his voice is worn out, then he just needs to stick to that.

[andrewjnorthrop]

they need to stop having the bassist do backing vocals, dude cannot hold a note!!!!!!

[MechaxJosh]

I've seen them live, and the rest of the band has such high energy, it kind of sucks that Charles doesn't. It kind of seems like he's bored. Does he know he's the frontman? And is he chewing gum here? haha

I don't mean to bash, he's a good vocalist, but still... do something, hah.

[hardyrulez96]

@MechaxJosh hes got a pretty big job

[AllMightyBosch]

that guy has stagefright

[adf413]

saosin

[Lexingtonsmusic]

Everyone, look into Unstable22's videos and look for the youa re familiar one. iWAAAAY better!

[Lexingtonsmusic]

This was a show a long time ago. they are much better now! I promise! SAW is amazing! Ill try to upload a more recent video!

[kimomo28]

not the coolest stage presence but he does make up for it by hitting the notes like he does on cd. thats better than someone who moves about on stage but sounds like his half dead half way through A SONG.

[AnDynessisity]

I love this band but to be honest... after seeing this video I wud not wanna go see them live anytime soon. There is not near enough stage presence!! Especially from the singer... ya gotta move dood!!! At least look like ur into it!

[CaseyCovenant]

When you move too much you cant focus on singing! Charles needs to focus to project and sing as well as he does!

[AnDynessisity]

@CaseyCovenant Yeah I guess your right. He probably does need to focus on his vocals more than how he looks on stage

[thesixtiesguy]

@AnDynessisity Too bad you wanna judge a bands quality on a crappy youtube video. I'd go see them... then decide.

[AnDynessisity]

@thesixtiesguy this isn't the only video i watched of them tho

[cynicalpheria]

i like the vocals but i want to see more stagemoves

[Habaneeboo]

their bass player ruins it.

He lacks a tuneful voice.

[GGvietboiGG]

I'm sorry but i agree Xd

[dandypajamas]

sad but true: 90% of Secret and Whisper's epic awesomeness is their drummer.

[lB3L13V3l]

Not really, the drummer is the best in the band obviously but the only reason theyre popular is the singer ... even though hes shit live :|

[tjm117]

@lB3L13V3l so true. : (

[skahalakemd]

everyting u said may be true, but dont u think there music at all has anything to do with them being popular, cuz i like there songs as a whole not there individual parts..

[lB3L13V3l]

Yeah man for sure youre right they wouldnt be popular if it wasnt for the music, they did a really good job writing it and it sounds awesome, I like it a lot too :) I think if they get more popular then their live preformance will improve too

[Luisitox5]

Shit live? I wouldn't go that far

[Luisitox5]

I take that back, it's kinda shitty live, especially his stage presence

[lB3L13V3l]

Fair enough yeah. Definately not 'shit live' but definately not that great either. I'd say that compared to their album versions of their songs their live preformances are shit though

[stockholme]

this band is too underrated

[Mushamashi987654]

@stockholme and too broken up Q.Q

[BjGard]

HOw many people were at this show??? Couldn't have been much, I don't know if that is any way to make a living :( Good luck fellas

[XGHOST7X]

Its funney because everyone rockin out on stage but Chalres just stands there.

[sword66]

kinda like jonny craig. lol

[SzymonSzanczuk]

Because hes bad ass! And have you ever tried to sing that high while rocking out...

[PennStGuy]

Man... I really like this band, but from what I have seen they are just awful live. I remember hearing somewhere that Charles uses an auto-tuner... it's not working.

[Ninjatastik]

You can't base a bands live performance ability off YouTube videos. You'll always be wrong.

You have to see them to know.

[10glitch01]

it seems the like button is broke ?:S

[slvrstnthb]

he defiantly doesnt use "auto-tune" thats like t-pain i see stars and kanye west new stuff thats auto-tune. he uses reverb it is basically like an echo. and i disagree there pretty good for what he has to sing lol.

[amoypinoy]

the riff is fuckin awesome

[DARKKRISDARKKRIS]

amazing

[SzymonSzanczuk]

Shutup Fag. You're grounded.

[Dilpil01]

guitars = good

drums = good

lead vocals = okish

backup vocals = the suck

[NateontheGuitar]

you my good lady are a pre-teen pop-fuckface who wouldnt know talent if you saw it.

[Dilpil01]

i might not know talent if I saw it but I do know when I see no talent.

[BigFreaks]

lol touche XD

[SzymonSzanczuk]

the backing vocals aren't actually that great...

[beefygreenapples]

They def don't sound all that great live but their album is freaking amazing

[Tencor09]

i think its alright...it could just be the video quality

[amoypinoy]

you're right.. if only the second voice was a little lower than the lead vocalist...

[ibanez216]

nobody honestly thinks they sounded good in this video do they??

[ImCrazyAboutOrlando]

Pshh Jordan's awesome

They're all awesome =]

[ActorBoy1987]

dude cut that basses throat out he ruins the damn song

[skahalakemd]

wtf no he doesnt?

[eteokles3]

looks like sound check....

[mrbubbles321]

this is an old video. he does better now!!

[VIPERINFERNO786]

has charles gained weight or something

[TheCollegeboi18]

I've noticed that too. Probably just his jacket or something?

[maxwellhouse007]

woah, off night for him. when I saw him he was literally dead on with the vocals. he must have been really tired or sick or something.

[skahalakemd]

m guessin tired by that point they were like almost doin a show a night

[likexanxoutlaw13]

There's no room for him to prance in his socks :[

[noamdahan18]

lol he just stands there, great vocals though....

[zinnyzxx]

i know, i started laughing

[downwithth3sickness]

hahah i dont care what people say, i love charles.

[THEBAUM0308]

Charles Dances With Himself On Stage

[Circafade777]

ha charles needs some stage moves, anthony green style would be awesome, and the description doesnt lie

[amoypinoy]

i know what you're saying.. he needs to express his emotions more with his body while he's up there...

[bigbrokin]

The timing in this song is freakin sweet.... So tight...

[iloveapplesauce369]

ha charles should dance like anthony green, yah but a little more in his performance would be nice, but hey, hes an amazing vocalist in an equaly as amazing band, so if he doesnt want to dance, as long as hes singing great who cares lol

[noamdahan18]

there's no one like anthony green. Anthony is god

[whenthesunsleeps777]

Anthony is over rated. He's not that good. He SUCKS live. I have seen him dozens of times and he doesn't compare to this vocalist.

[JamesHarmerMusic]

Dude, Anthony who? There isn't and has never been anyone named Anthony in Secret and Whisper that I know of. Are you thinking of Saosin and Anthony Green?

-James'

[ZachXfrommyspace]

so stiff live

[jhonioh]

The singer is dead when it comes to live proformences, its probably because he sings so high!

[jose2190s]

craig owens and anthony green both sing high as hell, but they always put on a good performance. Chuckles needs to learn to move around. maybe he's afraid he'll look like an imbecile if he jumps around.

[APEEEEEx3]

I agree with the description

[BNIMike]

Fairly impressive performance. Agree the singer does need to be more active. He doesn't need to go crazy, but at least show some emotion. Love the band though.

[P00PKoRN]

singer needs to be more active.

[CarsonB4L]

This band has A LOT of the same elements as Saosin, they just don't put it all together in the same way that Saosin does.

[fjpat3]

haha they do sound like old saosin! but saosin is better...at least their drummer is, but this is a really good band to! I like them alot! but the singer has really crappy stage performance... if I could sing like that and get up on stage oohhh son I'll be going crazy

[wwjd0388]

Charles does, however, have an amazing voice live. Better and closer to the album than most other singers, so Im ok with his sacrificing some stage presence for the quality.. I think this LP is alot better than anything Saosin has put out... Thats just me though

[xgabiemox]

guess you haven't watched many of the other live videos online, the singing hurts to listen to at times, but is good at others.

[wwjd0388]

Watched most all I can find of decent sound quality. It will obviously hurt through some terrible camera speaker, but anyones would. He is dead on 90 percent of the time.

[xgabiemox]

there's some pretty horrible notes in this vid, the band's on a label, singer should be more on otherwise it's a let down from listening to the cd to seeing live

[wwjd0388]

The bassist is more off than he is. He is very close to the record.

[mrbubbles321]

I agree with everything you just said!!

[TheArmoryLives]

As much as I love Cove and Anthony, this band doesn't sound like Saosin. Their vocalist is different, however has an equally broad range of pitch.

You want a band which sounds like them? Listen to From Autumn to Ashes. Just add a bit more screaming, and it is this band :Music and all:

That said both bands (even saosin, circa, zolof, FATA, and SAW) are amazing.

[TheArmoryLives]

and when I mention From Autumn to Ashes- Newer, and focus on their drummer singing, not their old front man

[starman292]

yeah...like wozy said XD

[oleisxx]

you guys thought that they sound like saosin/CS..that is because of the range of their vocalist, if you try to listen to their music..their way different. so pure of selfexplanatory emotions to our world today.

[wozy100]

Why the hell does everyone keep comparing these guys to saosin!!! Dont get me wrong saosin kick ass!!! But this is a different band!!! Give them some freaking credit, stop making them live in someones shadow man! Geeeeeeeeeez....

[jakkefriet]

you're right

they don't really remind me of saosin when i first heard them

both are indeed awesome bands

well actually saosin was an awesome band with anthony green

[netraptor]

I like that they actually take the care to play their instruments to the best of their abilities but also make a fun show to watch by moving around at the same time. I absolutely hate the bands that just move around like crazy crack heads on shark testicle roids.

[usernamesaretricky]

Saosin's okay but I definently like these guys better. They sound so much different live, I can't imagine how hard it would be to hit all those notes live, though.

[ShadowShelter]

their lead singer always looks so nervous

[cleverflyingmonkey]

secret + and + whisper = secret and whisper

[decemberisgone]

old saosin + circa survive = secret and whisper

[4nim4ted]

They are nothing like Saosin...

They are GOD !

[kingdomrockerz]

They are ordinary people who made a band and made great music that's it, no one can be God and you should know that...

[grimacexsteph]

Omg I Think They Sound Like Soasin TOo.

I Fuckn Love Secret And Whisper.

I Was There That Day At The Chain Reaction.

They Played With Brighten, Number One Gun And Ect. I Recorded Them Playing That Night Too.

I Was Exactly in The Front!

<3

[keigo101]

When i first heard them i also thought of saosin, but i think saw is alot more technical ,same feel to the music though. This guy uses double base where alex dosent. Both great bands though

[andysaosin]

Alex totally uses double kicks! Just not in the same way as this guy. And I think Alex uses a lot more double kicks live than on their cd!

[decemberisgone]

you should hear alex's rolls. haha.

[drummerlad15]

dude charles is just standin there! move around a little!!!

[curlyheadbanger]

i saw him last night..he did the same thing..

he moved around a bit more..he went on the amps and all that..it was pretty cool :)

[Freakyvvampire]

charles's amazin'..

[EyesSeeToClear]

this band is completely unoriginal, and soul less. I can hear a high ass voice, but no passion in it. Saosin has already written these songs, but there actually decent.

[TerreurEffet]

-Glow stick- WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

I want to see them live one day...

[RetaliationX]

Yo the bassist is a good vocalist, I thought that when Chris left they'd just use Jordan and not look for a new vocalist

But I wish he screamed more :( I know every band screams nowadays and they're not for conforming, but Jordan is the best post hardcore style screamer I've heard

[skahalakemd]

i agree with u man

i think the next cd they put out he should screem as much as he did in stutterfly

[Deadmetal54]

Its not the same  vocalist smart guy

[skahalakemd]

man im talkin about jordan "smart guy"

[Fattychopperskeet]

sick burn

[thealmostrocks]

this band would be really amazing if he moved around as a frontman a little more but this band is awesome

[RetaliationX]

My theory is that he has to concentrate very hard to do the style of singing that he does, so moving around is difficult for him

[wreckddrummer]

in the bleeding alarm he went fucking nuts on stage, but his vocals could sometimes be weak, i think he sounds 1000% better now... so whatever works for him lol

he has a bit of a haunting voice so i think the somber prescence works for him

[MuDvAyNw]

agreed

[summerxchica533]

omfg they r sooo awesome!!!!!!

[mattjones2300]

i want to ...how do you say it...PLOW HIM!

[mrbubbles321]

how can a band be so delicious??? and how can Charles sound so amazing???

[wisidiggidy]

if ppl notice, theres not much room to do a lot of jumping so they do good with wat they have

[LykanKhan]

The bassist should not sing backup.. Charles does fine by himself and frankly, the bassist sounds bad and out of tune.

Best cd I have heard in a LONG time though.

[mrbubbles321]

he doesn't sound out of tune!! and at the end, he helps Charles take a breather before he has to sing that one part... and he sings the woahhhh!! part lower than charles while he sings higher, its supposed to sound better when your singing in a diff tune that the other singer.. it sounds bad because he was turned up louder than charles

[skahalakemd]

man u know how much different it would be without jordan doing backup

[mrbubbles321]

their genre is-rock, experimental, psychedelic??

[ciyean]

Yeah, it would be rad to see em rock out more, but at least they sound better then most of these other live bands that are already big. Good job dudes.

[mrbubbles321]

they sound way ebtter live than saosin does (charles is one sweet dude, but he needs to move around a bit)

[taylertron]

Charles is a cool dude

[eteokles3]

but in every live video they look like doing soundcheck. wheres the show?

[reset01]

yeahh haha like jordan said in one of their updates, '' its hard rock'', anyway, they melt faces. = )

[mrbubbles321]

unstable22, how do you not know what this song is called?? you uploaded it!! and the title says vanishings

[Unstable22]

I know I meant to the other video I uploaded after this one..

[mrbubbles321]

yea I found that out, sry haha

[eteokles3]

sounds a lot like what saosin would do if they still had anthony green....

[mrbubbles321]

is that good or bad

[reset01]

saosin is a little bit more umm '' emo''

or well, not emo , but i gotta say SAW is something else, they have their own genre already.. ( i have nothing against emo, so don't start bitching everyone)

[eteokles3]

how is saosin more emo than they are? its just because saosin got big when emo was still "cool" and secret and whisper want to reach a larger audience. and just because it doesnt say emo on their myspace, doesnt mean that their music differs from what other emo bands do. secret and whisper are using riffs that are as old as the emo genre! no originality, but i really like them;)

[reset01]

yeah i think your right, what i meant was that they have something never heard before, its hard to describe it, but yeah! they kick ass!!

[Unstable22]

Actually It isnt Spider Besider.... I don't know what the name of the song is... But Ill upload it.

-Lex

[ColorMyAlphabet]

Is it attacker?

[mrbubbles321]

its called Vanishings, and its amazing and they sound pretty dang good live :)

[ColorMyAlphabet]

We're talking about in his other video dude

[mrbubbles321]

oh haha, oops sry :|

[ColorMyAlphabet]

Best live video of them on youtube

Dude

do you have anymore from this show?

[Unstable22]

I only have like another 30 second clip of "Spider Besider"...

[mrbubbles321]

sweet video.. and amazing band!!!

[skahalakemd]

was this yesterdays concert??

[Unstable22]

Jan. 24, 2008. @ Chain Reaction in Anaheim...