DO NOT WATCH THIS MOVIE!!! It is the WORST b-movie ever... It looks like a home made movie, and you can barely hear what anyone is saying, I wouldve done a better job at making it!!!
How else would an aborted baby come back? I would guess he'd be pissed with a knife (spikey hair optional). I wasn't defending a side, I was telling a creative story.
Abortion is an issue only because our society has abandoned Gods Word. God would rather nip this problem in the bud before the child is even born. Deuteronomy 22:13-21 says if a husband marries a girl and finds her not to be a virgin, then she is to be stoned to death. Notice the girl is to be killed without a concern of whether she might be pregnant. God doesnt want that selfish man stuck raising a baby which wasnt his! The bible god's answer is to kill both the girl and the baby.
If a person, child, has not reached the point that he/she is able to sincerely repent and ask for forgivness for their sins,and realize that they are a sinner, it is automatically covered by Jesus' blood already. I'd love to debate more ;) but like I said King David is the best example I can give ya. God bless!
The age of accountability is the age when a child can consciously choose Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. This is when they know right from wrong. When they sincerely know and can comprehend what Jesus did for them and that they are a sinner in need of a Savior. In my experience it's usually anywhere from 6-10.
I don't doubt that is what you believe...but where did that belief come from? If it is not in the scriptures (which it is not, do you agree?) then it is not the word of God. If it is not God's word, then who's word is it? The Bible does not say that and the Holy Spirit has not said it (because He only speaks what God says) so where did you get the "age of accountability " from?
Christ's death is presented as sufficient for all of mankind. First John 2:2 says Jesus "is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world." This verse is clear that Jesus' death was sufficient for all sins, not just the sins of those who specifically have come to Him in faith. The fact that Christ's death was sufficient for all sin would allow the possibility of God applying that payment to those who were never capable of believing.
The passage about David says nothing about the child going to heaven because of the age of accountability. Actually if David was to be reunited with his dead son when he died, and no man went to heaven until after Jesus died and got the key to hell, and Jesus lived after David..then when David died and was reunited with his son, neither of them was in heaven. Wouldn't that mean the child's spirit did no go to heaven when the child died?
Good point. I worded that wrong I guess. They both would have gone to Paradise until the death of Jesus. I used heaven, because had you not known what Paradise was, I guess it would have taken longer to explain ;)
No problem. my point is that the accountability idea is not in the Bible. There are plenty of scriptures we can use to make an arguement of it, but it is not in the Bible so we don't really know. All we can do is assume. But wouldn't it be something if we are wrong just because we would like to believe that is how it works? God says his is a Just God, not a fair God. Just and fair are two different things. Have a great day. I really enjoyed our talk.
Psalm 139:13-16 For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place. When I was woven together in the depths of the earth, your eyes saw my unformed body. All the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be.
-Jesus cancelled all sin when he died on the cross and unless a child is at the age of acountability,when they die they will go to be in heaven with Jesus. GOD BLESS!
Hi. I am not trying to be argumentative, but the passage that you quoted from Psalms does not say that a baby's spirit goes to heaven when it dies. What you wrote just says that God knows us before we are born. By the way, you mention an age of accountability. What age is that? Never read anything in the Bible about an age of accountability. I am not saying that aborted babies do not go to heaven, I just don't know how you can be certain since it does not state that in the Scriptures.
KIng David: When he took Bathsheba and had her husband killed, they conceived a son. Because of his sin, God cursed King David and said (through Nathan the prophet) that his son would surely die. (2 Sam. 12:23)"But now he is dead, wherefore should I fast? can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me." King David was saying that his son was dead and he could not bring him back, but on day he would be with him again in heaven. His son hadn't reached accountability.
Fair enough... I hadn't heard of the movie until I saw this spot on youtube. I feel that as two people with a shared stance on abortion, we can agree to disagree knowing the other has a valid reason for their opinion.
Well said. I can agree with that. I have not taken this personally, and I do appreciate the time you spent watching the trailer and more so the fact that you actually contacted me about your point of view. Thank you and I wish you the very best life has to offer. Have a great 2008!
Thank you for your response. I was just wondering, do you have anything specific to say? Why is it stupid? Becasue of the subject matter? Because no one should make a movie about abortion? A little explanation to complete your thoughts would help.
not a problem... I guess the concept of the movie trivializes abortion. My impression is that the death of these unborn, but live infants is being made a farse under the same demeanor as a standard "come back to haunt you" horror movie. Inappropriate to say the least, in my opinion.
Ok. I understand. But perhaps there is more to the film than your impression gives. I do agree that it falls under the idea of "come back to haunt you", but I don't think it trivializes abortion at all. I also think that art has touched on many subjects that often seem inappropiate. Yet we need to examine these expressions to see what can be gleemed from them. That is how dialogue begins. Perhaps it is time for a movie to create a scenario that will get the people talking again.
I think a movie touching on abortion should be made with more sensitivity than comedic value... the video seemed very "throw together horror" which typically translates into "corney (comedic) horror movie" that isn't taken seriously or given a second thought of legitimization.
You realize that you are guessing what the movie is about? You ASSUME that it is insensitive, comedic and thrown together. Your comment is based on assumptions and ignorance. You did not do your research like one should do to form an opinion. You have made a decision based on no personally researched information, just formulate an idea about something based on ignorance. Nice.
I don't know why you're getting angry about this. The point of a movie trailer is to get the audience excited about the movie and represent it in a good light. I don't think it did either.
Also, there's little movie synopsis and no link to a promotional website.
Again, my biggest issue is the idea of taking a serious real-life issue and trying to represent it in an unrealistic and impossible scenario. I understand the attempt, and that's all well and good, but as someone steadfastly against abortion, it doesn't do it for me.
I am not upset. You have an idea about what is and is not an acceptable topic to do a movie about. I happen to disagree. I appreciate you being anti-abortion, I am also. I am also an artist and my job as an artist is to create pieces that reflect the world in which I live. No topic is off base to me. This movie has real value. You may not know it because you have not seen it.
It's been a while since I've been on this site. I just wanted to tell you that when I read your comment, I burst out in laughter. That was funny, really.
You have your convictions! At least you are willing to stand for what you believe in. We live in a pretty amoralistic society. The choice lies in choosing moral behavior prior to pregnacy, abstinence or protective measures for those who do not believe it is wrong to take the lives of unborn children. the Bible says that children are a blessing and a heritage from the Lord, some people throw away or destroy their blessing because of a sense of desperation or just plain irresponsible behavior.
The crucifixion of God at the hands of his own creation was also a strong statement, still not many listen. But remember, some do and it makes all the difference to them! You are doing a worthwhile thing here and you care, obviously! Hey! would you mind viewing my Heinz commercial and tell me what you think? If you don't mind leave a rating by pressing the star that coincides with your opinion?
"What if one of these displaced spirits came back to our world?" Hm good question. I wonder how many women are being stalked by murderous psychos cos they had an abortion.
Ok. Perhaps you never heard of fiction? Do you really believe that Freddy Krugger is real? Jason? So then why is it so far fetched for me to create a killer that stalkes women who have abortions? As a matter of fact, this story has more basis in reality than Freddy Krugger.
Well, if you remember, you were watching a trailer. Perhaps the person I showed dying first in the trailer is not the same person who dies first in the movie. Crazy thought, huh?
When schizophrenics get cameras for christmas... just imagine how many potential serial killers have been prevented from being born thanks to abortion!!
Garlic, ahahahahahaha, how original and clever that was! I am very happy with the choice that I made to abort a few years ago and I will do it again if I become pregnant again. Then I guess that I am going to be a serial killer. In that case, gladly.
Lol
sv3rige 1 year ago
Lol wtf. Wow, I guess men would have millions of little sperm ghosts following them around too, right?
Oh well, it's not like anyone ever thought the antis were above violence and threats, may as well profit off it too I guess.
juliewashere88 1 year ago
DO NOT WATCH THIS MOVIE!!! It is the WORST b-movie ever... It looks like a home made movie, and you can barely hear what anyone is saying, I wouldve done a better job at making it!!!
brittandbaby 1 year ago
"What are we in some kind of horror movie or something?". What a line.
Sorry, I couldn't stop laughing through this trailer.
And I noticed that all your tags have nothing todo with the video. jay leno brittany spears lols.
BClocals 1 year ago
@BClocals
That's right, the tags are meant to get people to find the trailer when they do their search. This movie is now about 4 years old.
urbanfilmzworldwide 1 year ago
OMG being aborted gives you kung foo powers!
CYLONEJACK 1 year ago
@CYLONEJACK
Kung Fu powers, and a hell of a taste for blood.
urbanfilmzworldwide 1 year ago
yes, an abortion would come back to life as a knife wielding spikey haired white face guy who kills people.
way to make your side seem less rational.
yonskii 2 years ago
@yonskii
How else would an aborted baby come back? I would guess he'd be pissed with a knife (spikey hair optional). I wasn't defending a side, I was telling a creative story.
urbanfilmzworldwide 1 year ago
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Abortion is an issue only because our society has abandoned Gods Word. God would rather nip this problem in the bud before the child is even born. Deuteronomy 22:13-21 says if a husband marries a girl and finds her not to be a virgin, then she is to be stoned to death. Notice the girl is to be killed without a concern of whether she might be pregnant. God doesnt want that selfish man stuck raising a baby which wasnt his! The bible god's answer is to kill both the girl and the baby.
exodus21v20 3 years ago
Contd.
If a person, child, has not reached the point that he/she is able to sincerely repent and ask for forgivness for their sins,and realize that they are a sinner, it is automatically covered by Jesus' blood already. I'd love to debate more ;) but like I said King David is the best example I can give ya. God bless!
Prov358 4 years ago
Contd.
The age of accountability is the age when a child can consciously choose Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. This is when they know right from wrong. When they sincerely know and can comprehend what Jesus did for them and that they are a sinner in need of a Savior. In my experience it's usually anywhere from 6-10.
Prov358 4 years ago
I don't doubt that is what you believe...but where did that belief come from? If it is not in the scriptures (which it is not, do you agree?) then it is not the word of God. If it is not God's word, then who's word is it? The Bible does not say that and the Holy Spirit has not said it (because He only speaks what God says) so where did you get the "age of accountability " from?
greyghostfilms 4 years ago
Christ's death is presented as sufficient for all of mankind. First John 2:2 says Jesus "is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world." This verse is clear that Jesus' death was sufficient for all sins, not just the sins of those who specifically have come to Him in faith. The fact that Christ's death was sufficient for all sin would allow the possibility of God applying that payment to those who were never capable of believing.
Prov358 4 years ago
The passage about David says nothing about the child going to heaven because of the age of accountability. Actually if David was to be reunited with his dead son when he died, and no man went to heaven until after Jesus died and got the key to hell, and Jesus lived after David..then when David died and was reunited with his son, neither of them was in heaven. Wouldn't that mean the child's spirit did no go to heaven when the child died?
greyghostfilms 4 years ago
Good point. I worded that wrong I guess. They both would have gone to Paradise until the death of Jesus. I used heaven, because had you not known what Paradise was, I guess it would have taken longer to explain ;)
Prov358 4 years ago
No problem. my point is that the accountability idea is not in the Bible. There are plenty of scriptures we can use to make an arguement of it, but it is not in the Bible so we don't really know. All we can do is assume. But wouldn't it be something if we are wrong just because we would like to believe that is how it works? God says his is a Just God, not a fair God. Just and fair are two different things. Have a great day. I really enjoyed our talk.
greyghostfilms 4 years ago
It's been fun! Take care and God bless.
Prov358 4 years ago
Just so there's no confusion: every precious baby that's aborted is in heaven with Jesus.
Prov358 4 years ago
That is what we assume. But is that the truth? It doesn't say that in the Bible.
greyghostfilms 4 years ago
Psalm 139:13-16 For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place. When I was woven together in the depths of the earth, your eyes saw my unformed body. All the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be.
-Jesus cancelled all sin when he died on the cross and unless a child is at the age of acountability,when they die they will go to be in heaven with Jesus. GOD BLESS!
Prov358 4 years ago
Hi. I am not trying to be argumentative, but the passage that you quoted from Psalms does not say that a baby's spirit goes to heaven when it dies. What you wrote just says that God knows us before we are born. By the way, you mention an age of accountability. What age is that? Never read anything in the Bible about an age of accountability. I am not saying that aborted babies do not go to heaven, I just don't know how you can be certain since it does not state that in the Scriptures.
greyghostfilms 4 years ago
KIng David: When he took Bathsheba and had her husband killed, they conceived a son. Because of his sin, God cursed King David and said (through Nathan the prophet) that his son would surely die. (2 Sam. 12:23)"But now he is dead, wherefore should I fast? can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me." King David was saying that his son was dead and he could not bring him back, but on day he would be with him again in heaven. His son hadn't reached accountability.
Prov358 4 years ago
Fair enough... I hadn't heard of the movie until I saw this spot on youtube. I feel that as two people with a shared stance on abortion, we can agree to disagree knowing the other has a valid reason for their opinion.
unger15 4 years ago
Well said. I can agree with that. I have not taken this personally, and I do appreciate the time you spent watching the trailer and more so the fact that you actually contacted me about your point of view. Thank you and I wish you the very best life has to offer. Have a great 2008!
Elliott
greyghostfilms 4 years ago
This is the stupidest shit ever...
unger15 4 years ago
Thank you for your response. I was just wondering, do you have anything specific to say? Why is it stupid? Becasue of the subject matter? Because no one should make a movie about abortion? A little explanation to complete your thoughts would help.
greyghostfilms 4 years ago
not a problem... I guess the concept of the movie trivializes abortion. My impression is that the death of these unborn, but live infants is being made a farse under the same demeanor as a standard "come back to haunt you" horror movie. Inappropriate to say the least, in my opinion.
unger15 4 years ago
Ok. I understand. But perhaps there is more to the film than your impression gives. I do agree that it falls under the idea of "come back to haunt you", but I don't think it trivializes abortion at all. I also think that art has touched on many subjects that often seem inappropiate. Yet we need to examine these expressions to see what can be gleemed from them. That is how dialogue begins. Perhaps it is time for a movie to create a scenario that will get the people talking again.
greyghostfilms 4 years ago
I think a movie touching on abortion should be made with more sensitivity than comedic value... the video seemed very "throw together horror" which typically translates into "corney (comedic) horror movie" that isn't taken seriously or given a second thought of legitimization.
unger15 4 years ago
You realize that you are guessing what the movie is about? You ASSUME that it is insensitive, comedic and thrown together. Your comment is based on assumptions and ignorance. You did not do your research like one should do to form an opinion. You have made a decision based on no personally researched information, just formulate an idea about something based on ignorance. Nice.
greyghostfilms 4 years ago
I don't know why you're getting angry about this. The point of a movie trailer is to get the audience excited about the movie and represent it in a good light. I don't think it did either.
unger15 4 years ago
By the way, the movie has been released world wide in Jan 07.
greyghostfilms 4 years ago
Also, there's little movie synopsis and no link to a promotional website.
Again, my biggest issue is the idea of taking a serious real-life issue and trying to represent it in an unrealistic and impossible scenario. I understand the attempt, and that's all well and good, but as someone steadfastly against abortion, it doesn't do it for me.
unger15 4 years ago
I am not upset. You have an idea about what is and is not an acceptable topic to do a movie about. I happen to disagree. I appreciate you being anti-abortion, I am also. I am also an artist and my job as an artist is to create pieces that reflect the world in which I live. No topic is off base to me. This movie has real value. You may not know it because you have not seen it.
greyghostfilms 4 years ago
oh my god that scare me shitless lol
3demmeryc 4 years ago
Lol. Have you had a chance to see the movie?
Elliott
greyghostfilms 4 years ago
Man it even got Kung Fu fighting in it.
Nhia89 4 years ago
Wow, Nhia89. I guess that means you saw the movie. I really appreciate that. What did you think?
greyghostfilms 4 years ago
i think its aite
acting could've been better
could've had more kung fu fights
Next time make a horror/martial art flick
Think Sammo Hung, Spooky Encounter and Mr. Vampire
Nhia89 4 years ago
Whoa damn its just a movie.
Chill out peeps
its just a movie
Nhia89 4 years ago
this is completely retarded thats all i have to say im not replying to any of your replys
footballroolz2 4 years ago
Thank you for taking the time to post a comment.
greyghostfilms 4 years ago
It's been a while since I've been on this site. I just wanted to tell you that when I read your comment, I burst out in laughter. That was funny, really.
Elliott
greyghostfilms 4 years ago
ok ill answere to you, because your not being a protesting jerk, lol i couldent tell if its supporting or against abortion, very confusing
footballroolz2 4 years ago
You have your convictions! At least you are willing to stand for what you believe in. We live in a pretty amoralistic society. The choice lies in choosing moral behavior prior to pregnacy, abstinence or protective measures for those who do not believe it is wrong to take the lives of unborn children. the Bible says that children are a blessing and a heritage from the Lord, some people throw away or destroy their blessing because of a sense of desperation or just plain irresponsible behavior.
sonia0865 4 years ago
Thank you Sonia. I was beginning to think that this was too strong a statement even for those who say they are por-life.
greyghostfilms 4 years ago
The crucifixion of God at the hands of his own creation was also a strong statement, still not many listen. But remember, some do and it makes all the difference to them! You are doing a worthwhile thing here and you care, obviously! Hey! would you mind viewing my Heinz commercial and tell me what you think? If you don't mind leave a rating by pressing the star that coincides with your opinion?
sonia0865 4 years ago
Is there anyone out there not offended by the subject matter of this movie? I thought it was a valid topic to explore.
greyghostfilms 4 years ago
"What if one of these displaced spirits came back to our world?" Hm good question. I wonder how many women are being stalked by murderous psychos cos they had an abortion.
DZrache 4 years ago
Ok. Perhaps you never heard of fiction? Do you really believe that Freddy Krugger is real? Jason? So then why is it so far fetched for me to create a killer that stalkes women who have abortions? As a matter of fact, this story has more basis in reality than Freddy Krugger.
greyghostfilms 4 years ago
Hm yeah. I totally believe horrors. I stay awake every night wondering what The Jigsaw Killer's got in store for me. ÜBER-realistic.
DZrache 4 years ago
hahahhaahaahaha
ashl905 4 years ago
They always get the black person first!
DZrache 4 years ago
Actually a white person dies first in this film. Sorry to break up your ideal stereotype.
greyghostfilms 4 years ago
Oooh yeah she looked kinda dark in that lighting lol...ideal stereotype? Huh?
DZrache 4 years ago
Well, if you remember, you were watching a trailer. Perhaps the person I showed dying first in the trailer is not the same person who dies first in the movie. Crazy thought, huh?
greyghostfilms 4 years ago
Maybe. HAVE you made a full-length movie of this, by any chance? Is the first person who dies black or not? If not, good on ya ;) Break the mould!
DZrache 4 years ago
When schizophrenics get cameras for christmas... just imagine how many potential serial killers have been prevented from being born thanks to abortion!!
witchlemure 4 years ago
witchlemure - there are plenty of serial killers performing abortions.
ExtraGarlicNow 4 years ago
Very good response. An abortion doctor could be considered a serial killer.
greyghostfilms 4 years ago
Garlic, ahahahahahaha, how original and clever that was! I am very happy with the choice that I made to abort a few years ago and I will do it again if I become pregnant again. Then I guess that I am going to be a serial killer. In that case, gladly.
witchlemure 4 years ago
I guess we should call the cops and have you aressted for murder and possible terrorist threats to the unborn then...huh?
greyghostfilms 4 years ago
How sad! You are free to choose, however. I have made poor choices that are difficult to live with. If you can live with your choice, then so be it.
sonia0865 4 years ago
Coming soon to a kewl church near u!!!
spynovel 4 years ago
This movie is not church or religion based.
greyghostfilms 4 years ago
wow this is crap i am pro choice=)
chochke 4 years ago
This is crap because you are pro-choice? Sorry, that just doesn't seem like a well thought out review. I was hoping for a little more solid feedback.
greyghostfilms 4 years ago
Creative
greyghostfilms 4 years ago