bien hay un tema en la mesa y es producir energía con sistemas libres y aqui cero que debes de voltear a ver mas potencias y ya esta ya que no nos limitemos en sistemas combencionales buen trabajo...
Isn't that like using one credit card to pay off another credit card? All you are doing is transfering debt (energy) from one place to another without any additional energy.
@kd7one Two comments prior to yours (1 week ago), I answered that question :) There is a very good amount of torque going to waste here even with only 6 coils.
I should clarify and say that in this video I neglected to point out that the charge from the Bedini circuits would be added to the charge from a generator utilizing the torque. I am aware that the Bedini circuits are not overunity devices on their own.
Perhaps you might like to know but the Aussie chap's link you provided has been "removed due to a violation of YT guidelines" Well isn't that a surprise? Do you have another alternate link so I can view this game changing design?
I can see the fun side of playing around with such motors- but other than keeping your lead acid batteries cycling, what is the point? You would need an external input that costs you nothing to be able to make any use of such a motor/generator.
@chapmansbg Haha, quite a coincidence that you ask that. Today I made a small bedini motor because I wanted to recharge some 9 volt batteries and realized that I don't have a bedini right now. I have a small metal detector that I got from friend to try out. I'm assuming that it will burn through batteries. Normal batteries from the store can be recharged with a bedini...that's a bonus right there. And, I had my small 12v trickle charge solar cell running it while they charge :)
@enticed2zeitgeist With high voltage and low amperage. Conventional chargers use amperage to charge batteries...at about the voltage level of the battery. A bedini charges using high voltage spikes at a very low amperage...the opposite of conventional charging. Conventional charging methods also are what kills a rechargeable battery, while a bedini charge will actually restore life to an old battery. Anyway, the high voltage/low amperage current of a bedini is why it is capable of charging alk.
I like your point of view. Whether or not it has changed. The Bedini circuit is interesting for certain, but at the end of the day, there exists current, available to us. Whether that be 5 amps / 12v from a solar cell, or current from the wall. You have to use that current or your wasting that current. To device a 6 or ten coiler that attaches itself to a solar panel (@ 5a / 12v) that only draws 200 mA and wastes 4.8a is absolutely retarded. The free energy is in the sun, not the coil.
@KyleCarrington I'm pretty sure that I didn't mention anything about a solar panel in this vid, but I guess that I have to agree with your 4.8A waste scenario. I now think that energy can be extracted by utilizing frequency.
@MrAnguswangus I was basically referring to your's and Magneticitist experimentation of "using" current + spikes instead of always trying to avoid current usage in a more traditional Bedini sense. That's all. Notable is, also, that, the Renaissance Charger is a 2a charger that pulses. Basically nothing like the SSG. I think it was easy for me to get confused between what he experiments with, in contradiction to what he "sells". Pretty large difference.
The problem is that you can only charge the other batteries over a given period of time at the same rate as the power draw of the unloaded motor. If you load it & use the motor to do work, you'll increase the amp draw to achieve the same RPM, but the generator will only put out the unloaded power for that same speed. Thus, if you use it to do work, you'll never be able to charge the batteries fast enough. You'll have to switch batteries after shorter & shorter periods until it ultimately stops.
" If you load it & use the motor to do work, you'll increase the amp draw to achieve the same RPM..."
That is incorrect in the case of a Bedini pulse motor. If you build one and test it, you will see that when you load it & use the motor to do work, the amp draw goes DOWN.
Free energy has been here all along ,But the big oil corporations don't want that technology revealed,Get a REAL working magnet motor at LT-MAGNET-MOTORdotCOM ,Start the revolution!
Baby stroller wheels,,,look's like car hubcaps or taht was one BIG baby! LOL !!
Does it work better then a stroller? Just jokin here,, wish I could come up with something worth buying a camera for and puttin on here, NICE WORK. I am really writing ahead before seeing the video cause all I have is dial-up and it takes so long that I end up falling asleep while waiting,,did you ever get your Kapen Gen working?
and alot of talking about torque... it seems to me that it doesnt really matter what the math says. math as we know it is almost useless to the cosmos. do u even know what the number 1 is? or can be? an atom? a cell? the nucleus? we dont and cant know.. we might as well work with what our eyes and hands see and feel. if he can put "X" amps in, and get his rotor to turn another generator shaft for example, then there is going to be no adverse effects if he just uses a constant current regulator..
Angus, an important note about torque. When the motor is free-running at max speed, the torque and friction are in balance and cancel each other out. Therefor the NET torque when you just look at the motor spinning is zero. Don't be freaked out by that! When you put your hand on the wheel, AND the wheel has stabilized at a lower CONSTANT speed, then and only then, are you getting measurable torque out of the motor. I hope that makes sense to you.
@User2718218 (part two) When you feel the heat from friction on your hand rubbing against the spinning wheel (again must be constant speed not decelerating) , that is the (torque x angular velocity) = mechanical power becoming friction heat power heating up your hand. You have a big beefy motor so it is generating a fair amount of torque, however, in the big scheme of things, almost all Bedini motors put out relatively little torque, simply by their design. Feel free to drop by the thread!
@User2718218 . Good point, also what most people don't realize is that batteries take about 3-4 times longer (pending on set up), to charge than they do to discharge ! so it's not just what people see on their meters, there is much more to understand and do.
The more amps in the more magnetic field is produced. If you can then efficiently collect the back emf the more energy would be put into your charge batt. And remember the coils act also as capacitors as well. Happy motoring Scott
Could you imagine a bedini car?? Coils along the top that assist an electric motor... Or a bedini style bicycle assist? You show alot of torque, but if you re-route the flyback to a coil instead of a battery, then you get a seriously stronger push.
what people also fail to realize is the way the deep cycles are working. obviously with the way so many bedinis and other pulse motors are performing across the world, its not necessarily a matter of making sure more is coming out of the coils than going in, its all about whats going into the battery, and whats coming out of the battery... there is clearly a gain somewhere in the chemical reaction that i see every day.. even if one were to say thats external who cares? its timescale efficiency
@Magneticitist You are right that the argument is that more comes out of the charging battery than you put into it. However, I think that there is a flaw in their testing method.
Yourself and Angus my want to look at a thread that I started on the overunityresearch website called "Bedini 10-coil Alternative Discussion." It is quite technical and be forewarned that you are going to read things that you might not want to hear. However, I think you will get something out of it.
@User2718218 i do have to say that i too have found flaws in bedini's designs. several actually. my ironic stance on Bedini is this: he thinks hes doing something that hes actually not, BUT what hes doing actually CAN work, and hes very close to it, hes just not doing it right..
the thing about what angus and alot of us are doing is that we have taken the Bedini design and modified it in many ways according to our own discovery.. we both know the cat has already been skinned more than one way..
@Magneticitist You guys are having a great time, I think that is more important than anything! The purpose of my thread is to try to help 10-coilers or any Bedini experimenters get to the real truth about their motors. It's fun to try to understand what is going on from all angles. I have a very technical background and I try to tone it down but am not always successful. I can help people make proper power measurements and COP measurements, all in the thread, welcome to join!
@User2718218 hey trust me i for one appreciate any real input from real dedicated minds. your background and knowledge could no doubt help someone like me excel in this department, but then again, u know what they say about "emptying your cup"
@Magneticitist Between two and three years ago I looked at literally hundreds of Bedini clips on YouTube. I also read thousands of postings about Bedini motors on the various free energy forums. On the other hand I have never built one, which might turn some people off. On the other hand I know quite a lot about about electronics, physics, and energy. My thread will scare some people away because I can talk tough. I can try to answer any questions from you or Angus on the thread.
Very impressive solid build. My suggestion is to perfect your power measurements for the back-EMF spikes and your generator coil output first, before you commit yourself to building the whole thing. If you do that first, then you will be in a position to evaluate the full-blown design with confidence. There is an easy trick for measuring the power from the bask-EMF spikes. It's more complicated to measure the power from your generator coils.
@User2718218 (part 2) For the back-EMF spikes, just replace your charging battery with a big electrolytic cap, say 20,00o uF at 25 volts. Then put a 100-ohm 10-watt resistor in parallel with the cap. Run the motor and see where the voltage stabilizes across the cap + resistor. Try to get the voltage to stabilize at say 15 volts, you may need to change the resistor, then your spike output power is just V-squared/R. That tells you how much power would go into the charging battery.
@User2718218 (part 3) For your generator coils measuring the output power depends on the load they are driving. This is where impedance matching comes into play. A high resistance load will give you low power. A low resistance load will also give you low power. But if you use the "impedance match" resistance you will get maximum power. So much power that the motor will probably stop because the drive coils can't keep up. You need a true-RMS multimeter for making proper power measurements.
Thanks for all the info...believe me, I put some thought into it but I'll take all the help offered. I'm kind of a noob and I have much to learn. Thanks.
oh yea and u are right about the amps and getting back what u put in.. this is the beauty of it... i say it all the time but as long as u dont pull so much u dissipate heat u will always get it all back with the right resistances in place. once u dissipate heat u will just start getting a little less out than u put in, which is what everyone is doing lol
damn man.. thats seriously way faster and more torque than i would have guessed possible.. im curious how fast does it go when u pull alot less amps?
i think its looking very good...
im just gona reiterate what u said again about the nonbelievers lol.. non believers and doubters: nobody is listening to you! shut your stupid asses up! and P.S. i'd be happy to explain the PHYSICS-SATISFYING explanation behind how this motor will WORK!.
Thank you my tardgyver cousin...lol...and I do see now the importance of keeping the resistors/transistors and coils cool. Although they do stay cool except for 2 resistors which get warm (I checked again today). I'm starting to think that less than 24 coils will work...when I get to 18 I'll put together the generator. The pickups on the gen will be induction motors like in a MWO...like my eccentric ones...pmh basically. Magnet will pass between the arms of the core...giggity.
@MrAnguswangus i think ill try something similar with the PMH's but with the E shape since i scored a shitload of decent audio transformers that come apart easy. they are steel but perfect for winding on those 3 prongs to do sort of what thane was doing in that old video u showed me
Thank you sir. If you think about it there are 2 things here that, when added together, show that this will work. 1) When you put manual drag on the wheel the amp draw does NOT go up. 2) The Bedini circuits allow you to capture back most of what is input. So it's just a matter of putting a butt-load of coils around it to make it drive a generator :)
For sure there will be more to come...this is all I think about...lol.
Thanks bro...I'm winding 2 more coils as we speak (or type)...transistors will have to wait a few days. I'm making this thing mostly out of scraps so it might take a month or so till it's 24...but I'll make more vids as I go. Also, likewise, keep up the good work...I follow yours as well :P
bien hay un tema en la mesa y es producir energía con sistemas libres y aqui cero que debes de voltear a ver mas potencias y ya esta ya que no nos limitemos en sistemas combencionales buen trabajo...
regiomontano50 1 week ago
so if you are able to get very close to unity from one battery to the other and recover more power as mechanical power
gamer60634 2 weeks ago
use a starship coil they are real easy to make and they work better stronger field
gamer60634 2 weeks ago
awesome! Keep up the good work.
tesseract9100 2 weeks ago
Isn't that like using one credit card to pay off another credit card? All you are doing is transfering debt (energy) from one place to another without any additional energy.
kd7one 3 weeks ago
@kd7one Two comments prior to yours (1 week ago), I answered that question :) There is a very good amount of torque going to waste here even with only 6 coils.
MrAnguswangus 3 weeks ago
Hi, Don't let anybody tell you anything can't be done.
You'll get er figgered out !
bluechief1000 3 weeks ago
I should clarify and say that in this video I neglected to point out that the charge from the Bedini circuits would be added to the charge from a generator utilizing the torque. I am aware that the Bedini circuits are not overunity devices on their own.
MrAnguswangus 1 month ago
Perhaps you might like to know but the Aussie chap's link you provided has been "removed due to a violation of YT guidelines" Well isn't that a surprise? Do you have another alternate link so I can view this game changing design?
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I can see the fun side of playing around with such motors- but other than keeping your lead acid batteries cycling, what is the point? You would need an external input that costs you nothing to be able to make any use of such a motor/generator.
chapmansbg 8 months ago
@chapmansbg Haha, quite a coincidence that you ask that. Today I made a small bedini motor because I wanted to recharge some 9 volt batteries and realized that I don't have a bedini right now. I have a small metal detector that I got from friend to try out. I'm assuming that it will burn through batteries. Normal batteries from the store can be recharged with a bedini...that's a bonus right there. And, I had my small 12v trickle charge solar cell running it while they charge :)
MrAnguswangus 8 months ago
@MrAnguswangus How does Bedini recharge regular alkaline cells?
enticed2zeitgeist 1 month ago
@enticed2zeitgeist recharge*
enticed2zeitgeist 1 month ago
@enticed2zeitgeist With high voltage and low amperage. Conventional chargers use amperage to charge batteries...at about the voltage level of the battery. A bedini charges using high voltage spikes at a very low amperage...the opposite of conventional charging. Conventional charging methods also are what kills a rechargeable battery, while a bedini charge will actually restore life to an old battery. Anyway, the high voltage/low amperage current of a bedini is why it is capable of charging alk.
MrAnguswangus 1 month ago
I like your point of view. Whether or not it has changed. The Bedini circuit is interesting for certain, but at the end of the day, there exists current, available to us. Whether that be 5 amps / 12v from a solar cell, or current from the wall. You have to use that current or your wasting that current. To device a 6 or ten coiler that attaches itself to a solar panel (@ 5a / 12v) that only draws 200 mA and wastes 4.8a is absolutely retarded. The free energy is in the sun, not the coil.
KyleCarrington 11 months ago
@KyleCarrington I'm pretty sure that I didn't mention anything about a solar panel in this vid, but I guess that I have to agree with your 4.8A waste scenario. I now think that energy can be extracted by utilizing frequency.
MrAnguswangus 11 months ago
@MrAnguswangus I was basically referring to your's and Magneticitist experimentation of "using" current + spikes instead of always trying to avoid current usage in a more traditional Bedini sense. That's all. Notable is, also, that, the Renaissance Charger is a 2a charger that pulses. Basically nothing like the SSG. I think it was easy for me to get confused between what he experiments with, in contradiction to what he "sells". Pretty large difference.
KyleCarrington 11 months ago
Its a huge man and it create little bit noisy
WSmith193 1 year ago
The problem is that you can only charge the other batteries over a given period of time at the same rate as the power draw of the unloaded motor. If you load it & use the motor to do work, you'll increase the amp draw to achieve the same RPM, but the generator will only put out the unloaded power for that same speed. Thus, if you use it to do work, you'll never be able to charge the batteries fast enough. You'll have to switch batteries after shorter & shorter periods until it ultimately stops.
eyeammi 1 year ago
@eyeammi
" If you load it & use the motor to do work, you'll increase the amp draw to achieve the same RPM..."
That is incorrect in the case of a Bedini pulse motor. If you build one and test it, you will see that when you load it & use the motor to do work, the amp draw goes DOWN.
MrAnguswangus 11 months ago
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jjerkings2890 1 year ago
Mad construction hehe. I love it how it's build almost from scrap, just parts anyone can find at home. Great work, keep it up!
TheRadiastral 1 year ago
Baby stroller wheels,,,look's like car hubcaps or taht was one BIG baby! LOL !!
Does it work better then a stroller? Just jokin here,, wish I could come up with something worth buying a camera for and puttin on here, NICE WORK. I am really writing ahead before seeing the video cause all I have is dial-up and it takes so long that I end up falling asleep while waiting,,did you ever get your Kapen Gen working?
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hungarylnnjsd 1 year ago
Great job man, you really came a long way. I'm learning a lot from your videos
tyrodogg 1 year ago
and alot of talking about torque... it seems to me that it doesnt really matter what the math says. math as we know it is almost useless to the cosmos. do u even know what the number 1 is? or can be? an atom? a cell? the nucleus? we dont and cant know.. we might as well work with what our eyes and hands see and feel. if he can put "X" amps in, and get his rotor to turn another generator shaft for example, then there is going to be no adverse effects if he just uses a constant current regulator..
Magneticitist 1 year ago
Angus, an important note about torque. When the motor is free-running at max speed, the torque and friction are in balance and cancel each other out. Therefor the NET torque when you just look at the motor spinning is zero. Don't be freaked out by that! When you put your hand on the wheel, AND the wheel has stabilized at a lower CONSTANT speed, then and only then, are you getting measurable torque out of the motor. I hope that makes sense to you.
User2718218 1 year ago
@User2718218 (part two) When you feel the heat from friction on your hand rubbing against the spinning wheel (again must be constant speed not decelerating) , that is the (torque x angular velocity) = mechanical power becoming friction heat power heating up your hand. You have a big beefy motor so it is generating a fair amount of torque, however, in the big scheme of things, almost all Bedini motors put out relatively little torque, simply by their design. Feel free to drop by the thread!
User2718218 1 year ago
@User2718218
I was already aware of that, and thanks.
MrAnguswangus 1 year ago
@User2718218 . Good point, also what most people don't realize is that batteries take about 3-4 times longer (pending on set up), to charge than they do to discharge ! so it's not just what people see on their meters, there is much more to understand and do.
vid009 1 year ago
The more amps in the more magnetic field is produced. If you can then efficiently collect the back emf the more energy would be put into your charge batt. And remember the coils act also as capacitors as well. Happy motoring Scott
scooterscottii 1 year ago
Could you imagine a bedini car?? Coils along the top that assist an electric motor... Or a bedini style bicycle assist? You show alot of torque, but if you re-route the flyback to a coil instead of a battery, then you get a seriously stronger push.
CosmicGnarler 1 year ago
monkeywan loves to meditate to your spinnin wheel ... can you post a vid with Blood Sweat and Tears playing and your bedini spinnin ...
helpmonkey 1 year ago
@helpmonkey
I think that goes against the laws of physics...can't be done...lol.
MrAnguswangus 1 year ago
what people also fail to realize is the way the deep cycles are working. obviously with the way so many bedinis and other pulse motors are performing across the world, its not necessarily a matter of making sure more is coming out of the coils than going in, its all about whats going into the battery, and whats coming out of the battery... there is clearly a gain somewhere in the chemical reaction that i see every day.. even if one were to say thats external who cares? its timescale efficiency
Magneticitist 1 year ago
@Magneticitist You are right that the argument is that more comes out of the charging battery than you put into it. However, I think that there is a flaw in their testing method.
Yourself and Angus my want to look at a thread that I started on the overunityresearch website called "Bedini 10-coil Alternative Discussion." It is quite technical and be forewarned that you are going to read things that you might not want to hear. However, I think you will get something out of it.
User2718218 1 year ago
@User2718218 i do have to say that i too have found flaws in bedini's designs. several actually. my ironic stance on Bedini is this: he thinks hes doing something that hes actually not, BUT what hes doing actually CAN work, and hes very close to it, hes just not doing it right..
the thing about what angus and alot of us are doing is that we have taken the Bedini design and modified it in many ways according to our own discovery.. we both know the cat has already been skinned more than one way..
Magneticitist 1 year ago
@Magneticitist You guys are having a great time, I think that is more important than anything! The purpose of my thread is to try to help 10-coilers or any Bedini experimenters get to the real truth about their motors. It's fun to try to understand what is going on from all angles. I have a very technical background and I try to tone it down but am not always successful. I can help people make proper power measurements and COP measurements, all in the thread, welcome to join!
User2718218 1 year ago
@User2718218 hey trust me i for one appreciate any real input from real dedicated minds. your background and knowledge could no doubt help someone like me excel in this department, but then again, u know what they say about "emptying your cup"
Magneticitist 1 year ago
@Magneticitist Between two and three years ago I looked at literally hundreds of Bedini clips on YouTube. I also read thousands of postings about Bedini motors on the various free energy forums. On the other hand I have never built one, which might turn some people off. On the other hand I know quite a lot about about electronics, physics, and energy. My thread will scare some people away because I can talk tough. I can try to answer any questions from you or Angus on the thread.
User2718218 1 year ago
Very impressive solid build. My suggestion is to perfect your power measurements for the back-EMF spikes and your generator coil output first, before you commit yourself to building the whole thing. If you do that first, then you will be in a position to evaluate the full-blown design with confidence. There is an easy trick for measuring the power from the bask-EMF spikes. It's more complicated to measure the power from your generator coils.
User2718218 1 year ago
@User2718218 (part 2) For the back-EMF spikes, just replace your charging battery with a big electrolytic cap, say 20,00o uF at 25 volts. Then put a 100-ohm 10-watt resistor in parallel with the cap. Run the motor and see where the voltage stabilizes across the cap + resistor. Try to get the voltage to stabilize at say 15 volts, you may need to change the resistor, then your spike output power is just V-squared/R. That tells you how much power would go into the charging battery.
User2718218 1 year ago
@User2718218 (part 3) For your generator coils measuring the output power depends on the load they are driving. This is where impedance matching comes into play. A high resistance load will give you low power. A low resistance load will also give you low power. But if you use the "impedance match" resistance you will get maximum power. So much power that the motor will probably stop because the drive coils can't keep up. You need a true-RMS multimeter for making proper power measurements.
User2718218 1 year ago
@User2718218
Thanks for all the info...believe me, I put some thought into it but I'll take all the help offered. I'm kind of a noob and I have much to learn. Thanks.
MrAnguswangus 1 year ago
oh yea and u are right about the amps and getting back what u put in.. this is the beauty of it... i say it all the time but as long as u dont pull so much u dissipate heat u will always get it all back with the right resistances in place. once u dissipate heat u will just start getting a little less out than u put in, which is what everyone is doing lol
Magneticitist 1 year ago
damn man.. thats seriously way faster and more torque than i would have guessed possible.. im curious how fast does it go when u pull alot less amps?
i think its looking very good...
im just gona reiterate what u said again about the nonbelievers lol.. non believers and doubters: nobody is listening to you! shut your stupid asses up! and P.S. i'd be happy to explain the PHYSICS-SATISFYING explanation behind how this motor will WORK!.
Magneticitist 1 year ago
@Magneticitist
Thank you my tardgyver cousin...lol...and I do see now the importance of keeping the resistors/transistors and coils cool. Although they do stay cool except for 2 resistors which get warm (I checked again today). I'm starting to think that less than 24 coils will work...when I get to 18 I'll put together the generator. The pickups on the gen will be induction motors like in a MWO...like my eccentric ones...pmh basically. Magnet will pass between the arms of the core...giggity.
MrAnguswangus 1 year ago
@MrAnguswangus i think ill try something similar with the PMH's but with the E shape since i scored a shitload of decent audio transformers that come apart easy. they are steel but perfect for winding on those 3 prongs to do sort of what thane was doing in that old video u showed me
Magneticitist 1 year ago
I love it, and how your thinking out of the box. Good job and post more, Thanks
TheBillythekid2010 1 year ago
@TheBillythekid2010
Thank you sir. If you think about it there are 2 things here that, when added together, show that this will work. 1) When you put manual drag on the wheel the amp draw does NOT go up. 2) The Bedini circuits allow you to capture back most of what is input. So it's just a matter of putting a butt-load of coils around it to make it drive a generator :)
For sure there will be more to come...this is all I think about...lol.
MrAnguswangus 1 year ago
Looking very good, hauls ass already. Great work. Can't wait to see it as a 24 coiler. Peace Rawbush
Rawbush 1 year ago
@Rawbush
Thanks bro...I'm winding 2 more coils as we speak (or type)...transistors will have to wait a few days. I'm making this thing mostly out of scraps so it might take a month or so till it's 24...but I'll make more vids as I go. Also, likewise, keep up the good work...I follow yours as well :P
MrAnguswangus 1 year ago