adding hydrogen boosts the (already existing) fuel's efficiency. Its not used for its energy, its used for the effect i mentioned. So having a small amount of hydrogen isnt really the issue here.
I just dont understand why people do this. What are you making, like 2 liters of gas per minute? And what's that, a 6L engine? Thats about 20000L per minute of air, or 0.01% of your intake air is generated hydrogen. At that percentage, that much hydrogen would have just absolutely zero effect.
Been using a mason jar single cell for three years now. Big difference on mileage & response except baking soda fizzles out every 150 miles or so and eats up my 316 plates. Tried white vinegar with less soda.. somewhat better, but not satisfactory. Just wondering if potassium hydroxide is more forgiving on the plates, where to get it, and is it longer lasting? Thanks.
@katnap72 Don't use glass, that is very dangerous. Don't use Sodium Bicarbonate (baking soda), only use Sodium Hydroxide or Potassium Hydroxide. I cannot find Potassium Hydroxide locally so I use Sodium Hydroxide.
You can find it at hardware stores usually in the drain opener section, I get Rooto 100% lye brand here.
Always use protective gear and ventilation when handling chemicals and use a bubbler for safety.
@1alien2 Picked up the same Rooto stuff today and some distilled water. What's the mix for 1 Gal? 1/4 teaspoon? I'm not wanting to pull more than 10-15A if possible.
@katnap72 I don't recommend mixing in a storage container as someone could mistake it as regular water.
Even clearly marked as KOH or NaOH, I wouldn't want to risk it.
I sprinkle a little at a time until the current is a few degrees from what I want it to run at, that allows for the heating up of the cell running over time.
In this cell here, usually 1/4 teaspoon is best. It really depends on the size of the cell for the correct amount.
1alien2 , most of the negative comments come from either oil companies employees, or people afraid to try new things. This government, as well as the big boys from oil companies want us to stay ignorant. It will be up to us to take the first step , and shoved all the oil up their asses. You have a very interesting set up , and like you posted this is a Hydrogen booster. I am trying to set mine up soon. Good luck and keep on trying.
I'm going around and trying to network all of us hydrogen guys/gals together to help spread the word. Especially when i see others using adsense like I do.
Think brother ........ It is an cheap recycle plastic container which contain >1 lit pure hydrogen and sat near to ur exotic truck motor and you haven't think what it might do? Let me tell to you some thing ......... H2 can explode with out any spark....
@Gagabow You're lacking simple nuclear physics knowledge. It takes an incredible amount of power to bring two hydrogen nuclei together to induce nuclear fusion. Modern day nuclear warheads use a plutonium fission bomb to provide the energy. H2 will do nothing more than burn rapidly with O2 when ignited.
@mjolnirforsworn no no no. its uranium not plutonium, plutonium is considered a dirty bomb under the treaties we mad with other country's. too much long lived isotopes fallout. uranium fission bomb is used to make compression wave and neutron swarm through lithium. breaking it and producing tritium, then the compression wave forces the tritium and core together making the fusion part of a hydrogen bomb. (tritium is hydrogen with 2 neutrons instead of just a proton alone)
@mlfinerty Still two wrongs don't make a right. After Little Boy, uranium was found to be to inefficient as a fissile material so they used weapons grade plutonium. That is the standard fissile material of fission bombs. The point remains that without an enormous amount of energy, hydrogen will not fuse. Especially if it is 1H, not deuteurium or tritium because the nucleus of the helium atom to be formed will not be stable without two neutrons.
This maybe would work, but not everyone is prepared to have a hydrogen generator in their garage. What if it blows up? But yea, if you use it at your house and power the extractor with electricity, and then just use a full cell in a car, it might just work.
I guess you are able to still fool people into believing this works. None of you ever make any measurements scientifically. What is the power consumption of the unit and what is the power output? Carefully designed gas mileage tests have to be conducted, before and after installation. You have not done that. False claims of gas savings make this a scam. It takes more power to make the hydrogen gas than the resulting power it can produce. SCAM
and as for not thinking that hho cells could be a bomb. type in "hho explosion" and watch all the people who have lighters and no brain, or the ones who didn't figure the max pressure of the containers. what hapened, explosions, could be under your hood should you try this. not every one who sees this has been to college, and more people will try this than succede in boosting. more info nessecary, get off your damn soap box and quit preaching till you have contributed to systems.
to get decent boost you need a cell bigger than 40w. the real boosters that people buy are drawing 45-60 amps. how the wires could overheat with that kind of draw is hard to imagine, wait no it's not. for the record, electrolysing water is not effiecient. unless the cataylitic process that occures pays in full for this cost you are getting a net loss.
and btw 1alien2 I am not knocking your vid, it is decent. just knocking the bastard that thinks everyone should do this. there are flaws in the system and much working needst to be done b4 we utilize this technology on all cars.
also if you needed to catalize a gass engine, why wouldnt you do somthing more like a catalyst coating on the top of the piston and upper part of the cylinder. maby tiny fins inside, platinum coated or with thin oxide films n shit like that. instead of putting extra stuff to go wrong inside and already overpacked engine compartement. let alone one that could fry your car or explode if conditions are wrong. conservation of energy prevents FREE energy. you are just inproving effiency a bit.
ive studied this concept and tried it myself, it works. did u use a pulse width modulator it'll help keep your battery and alternator from overheating
I'm amazed at how many people who claim to have a "sound understanding of physics" yet immediately dismiss this as pathological science. I've studied graduate level physics for years hoping to move to my PHD in the future. There isn't any free energy here, only a component added to supplement the inefficient rate at which the car burns petrol. Your electricity from the battery that would have become waste at some point, making oxyhydrogen that enriches fuel-air mixture. It is real science
@BillyRiot1 Isn't the basic proble m here that, the fuel burnt is not efficient, also the spliting of the water is inefficient. but the energy used to split the water is derived from the burning of gasoline. so you are using bad economy and taxing it more to produce energy to plug into an also flawed process. wouldn't you just double your losses? just like adding an extra resistor? sure the alternator dumps out more than is nessecary most the time, does this justify over drawing all the time?
@Demonchld666 The fuel burnt is not inefficient, the method of converting the energy into motion is. The splitting of water isn't inefficient, the method of doing so is. The energy provided from the battery/alternator is beyond sufficient. This process takes wasted energy from an inefficient system, adds an additional fuel type from another inefficient system, and improves the efficacy of the previous. Answering your question; yes, both systems are inefficient and no, not like a resistor at all.
@BillyRiot1 so the fuel to movement is inefficent, ya said that. so spliting water not a problem, but actually doing so is, ya said that. and the extra energy from the alternator is only that.... at times extra. some times it is nessecary dumb ass. you are gonna burn out your batery and alternator sooner for sure than if you did not do this. there is several hundred bucks for what. adding a potential bomb under your hood. even if no boom. could ground out and fry your whole system idot!
@Demonchld666 I'm impressed at your ability to remain civil during this otherwise ground shaking discussion. In other news; no, it could not become a bomb and ,unless you are incompetent, has no ability to 'ground out and fry your whole system'. I apologize, as I was under the impression you were lacking formal education, but as your grammar and punctuation have swayed my skills of perception, I'll assume you know exactly what your talking about. Have a nice day.
@BillyRiot1 ya. could be a bomb. ya there are flaws. ya you have to replace you batts and alts regularly instead of every few years. I guess it's ok to pay a several 100$ a year to replace an alt when you didn't have to. right you saved all that money on gas. using a powerade not scientific. even using a water purifying poly carbonate trap is stupid. plastic will break. hho will get out. engine is hot. ungrounded hot leads will ground. and your were going for your masters... soooory!
@Demonchld666 You sir, are classy. And I must commend you on your rebuttal! I am completely disarmed. I'm especially astounded by the way you utilized the misnomer 'hho'. Tell me, with all of your higher education, what is the most abundant solution in all the world, yet capable of powering the entire world's energy needs with only one gallon?
@BillyRiot1 are you that stupid after all that schooling..... how is an electrolysis cell a bomb. what do you get when you electrolyse water. oxygen and hydrogen right? what hppens when the two are mixed and subjected to a high temp. is there any flash back controle? wow just poped your plastic cell. where did the bat leads go, oh shity, they grounded out on the chassy. damn now my car is fuckd.
@Demonchld666 LOL! So that's what happens when electricity runs through your car? It breaks the whole thing? That explains so much! I suppose that's why all of those "scientists" ground the "circutes" neutral to the "chassy" (which I imagine is something like 'chassis').
@Demonchld666 actually only the battery would get fucked up if the circuit closed and you need fire to ignite gas not high temps, nice try though, think it through next time you post in a know it all rage.
@HappyJackProduction1 hey happy, read a book and check the flash point for a stoichiometrically balanced mixture of oxygen and hydrogen. just hydrogen and open air is ridiculous. it's similar to acetylene and oxygen, static electricity can set it off and you with it. you don't need a flame, high enough temps are fine, static is fine, a spark is fine, oh ya when the cell breaks and a posative grounds out ya think its gonna pour out candy? nope just a spark, heat and molten metal bits. have fun
@mlfinerty Tell me more Mr.Science lol. High enough temps are fine for an explosion? ya maybe 1200 degrees and in a totally different under pressure application, but not under the hood temps and since any cell out there doesn't make enough hydrogen fast enough to fill the engine compartment along with all the rushing air underneath, what would happen is a battery possibly getting wrecked and your PLASTIC jar melting and the electrolyte spilling out. So im correct again, nice try though lmao
@BillyRiot1 many scientist deciding how our cars are made, for saftey. adding this type of shit requires that you learn about cars and devise better circutes for anticipated power draw, just like they did with every component added to the vehicle. draw is important to wire size as well as consumption. bigger atl might not have a prob. bigger allt needs more gas. there went your free gas. wires not prop size over heat. add that to a poor hho gen = boom. be smart free! stay stupid expensive!
@Demonchld666 So I suppose the battery, whose capacity regularly exceeds 5kWh, can't spare 12 volts and 5 amps at a regulated 30kHz modulation? Let me do the math real quick....out of the 5000 watts available, and with a draw of approximately 40 watts....I guess I'm just SOL....there just isn't enough there...
@BillyRiot1 also the batt doesn't really power the car. it enables starting. the alt runs the show from then on. unless more power is needed say like towing up hill when your rig is redlined. so you are inherently overheating the alt on a reg basis. it doesnt produce a huge ammount in excess of your needs unless you upgrade it. re-rig ur system if you wanna do this. that is what I am saying. can't just incorporate in any car w/o consequence. or they would already do this from the factory.
Notice how all the stupid people criticize you instead of realizing what you have there; It is not by any means free energy, it is an alternative which is cleaner, more efficient and made from the one resource we have an abundance of. Water. Open up a book or two haters/idiots and realize the future.
@DeadPixel91 Excuse me sir but are you familliar with the math behind the energy effeciency of this system? The reasoning behind it does sound quite sound untill you have seen the actual figures. Unfortunately the amount of electrical energy needed to draw the hydrogen out of the water is roughly equivilant or slightly greater than the amount of energy released when that hydrogen is burned. Furthermore the alternator puts additional load on the engine equal to the electrical energy being used.
@MrAwsome514 Hmmm.. Good ol' tried and tested maths huh??? Have you ever invented anything??? Where do you think new, better technology comes from??? People like this man, who despite what the "experts" say is not afraid to look at the mathematics tear them up and start fresh. Stop believing what other people feed you and think for yourself mate, or stop coming on to these pages deliberately disproving people because it makes you feel good. If you know it doesn't work why are you even here???
@DeadPixel91 I am not basing this off of theoretical math here retard. I am basing it off of testing results. Yes that is right... It has been tested many times and nomatter how many times we do it the results allways come back as the excess draw on the engine from the alternator to power the hydrogen system is greater than the extra horse power produced by burning said hydrogen. ALL credible test results show reduced fuel effeciency.
@DeadPixel91 The engine has to put out more energy to cover the additional electrical energy being consumed to produce the hydrogen and when that hydrogen is burned in the engine it usually just barely makes up for the extra strain the system has put on the engine. Infact all recorded data from reputable sources show that most tests come back showing slightly less fuel effeciency and those which come back showing increase effeciency it is too small an increase to measure for confirmation.
@DeadPixel91 You are right. Trying to teach some one who has allready been taught is pointless. That is why these scammers don't target people who allready have a good sound understanding of physics. It is why they go so far as to make up stories about some evil secret organization trying to hide the tech... Because they have to make sure you reject anyone who actually knows what they are talking about so you don't learn the actual science.
@MrAwsome514 Lol im no conspirator, i would say more of an amateur theoretical inventor :) I guess i am trying to say dont dismiss anyones idea until you have thoroughly investigated it, you could find something that you have missed that could mean the difference between a small increase (or decrease i cant remember the video) in fuel economy or a global scale conversion to 'solar' energy.
@DeadPixel91 It has been thoroughly investigated... Many time by many different highly reputable organizations. All results came back showing a minor decrease in effeciency. Car companies are constantly working on a way to make cars more effecient so they can better compete with eachother. They where amung the first to try it. And they where amung the first to throw it out as the useless trash it was. Unfortunately a bunch of scammers got thier paws on it to milk it for what ever they can get.
@DeadPixel91 We do have real viable technologies in the work which show REAL progress. The reason these scams piss me off the way they do is because they target the young people who have yet to learn much about physics and then fill thier heads with a bunch of crap in the hopes of making some money off of them in the process. The people they fool often go on to try for years to make the "technology" work before finally realizing they where the punch line of a very sick joke.
@DeadPixel91 When scams like this manage to draw people into them. It robs the world of the inventions they could have made had they gone on to learn real physics instead.
love how most the people on here are knocking this. my put too hydrogen boosters on his diesel and it bumped his mpg from 16 to 20 - 25. you have to regulate the amps so it optimizes how much hydrogen it makes. you also have to lie to the oxygen sensor on newer vehicles so it doesnt read that it needs even more gasoline.
before posting, do research. The hydrogen booster is well documented and works.. My Moron talking about loss of gas is stupid.. the energy that is being used for hydrogen production comes from the alternator.. i can run my laptop and charge my phone and talk on my CB from the extra power that alternator puts out.. Why not use the extra AMPERAGE to convert water into HYDROGEN and OXYGEN and boost my fuel economy...
@aperseghin What you are not understanding is that because of something called lenz law the electromagnetic coils in the alternator also have a magnetic field around them which opposes the movement of the permanant magnet in the rotor. In other words the alternator does not just produce electricty, but also a resistance against the engine. The energy of this resistance is equivilant to the electrical energy being produced.
@aperseghin In other words the more energy you draw off of the alternator the harder the engine has to work to turn it. If you divert power to an extra electrical system you actually make the engine burn slightly more fuel to compensate. Also I am not sure who did the documentation you are reffering to but all of the documentation I have found shows absolutely horrible results. In most cases they actually found that it made the car less effecient. Where the one's you found peer reviewed?
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@quaxk a reporter asked Edison if he felt bad cause it took him a thousand times before he found the right wire for his light bulb. Edison said no I found a thousand ways not to make a light bulb!
Show me an engine running on Fuel, and then you switching this system on, and the revs Increasing. Then I'll be Impressed...but only if it's using the car battery and electrical system.
You do realize ofcourse that this is horribly ineffecient and if anything is actually wasting more gas right? Think about it. Your engine power's your alternator, your alternator sends power to the hydrogen cell, and then the hydrogen is sent to the engine as fuel. The problem is amount of energy needed to pull the hydrogen out of the water is greater than the amount of energy that the amount pulled releases when burned. You are basically wasting more gas trying to power the fuel cell.
@nathaniverson2 My grandfather allready tried it... it did absolutely nothing for his gas mileage. I told him it was a wasted effort but he wouldn't listen. Judging by the fact that you believe it works I would have to say either you have not tried it or you have not compared the before and after on the mileage.
@MrAwsome514 not just that but hydrogen burns 40,000 x faster then gas right, so if u dont advance ur timing when running the hydrogen it fires to fast pushing backwards on the pistons cause a gas engine fires before top dead center and by the time it hit top it has finally fired.
@hillbilliejoe Well it is not just that. The concept behind the hydrogen cell scam is based on the electrical aspect of the machine. The average person can understand that you can use electricity to pull hydrogen out of water and can understand that you can burn the hydrogen after doing so. But the average person has a much harder time figureing out just how much electrical energy it consumes to perform that process and understanding just how it compares to the energy put out by burning it.
But the point of this entire setup is because the alternator generates more electricity than the truck needs, so that electricity is converted back to fuel as hydrogen, which in turn increases fuel efficiency.
You would have a point if the extra pull on the alternator converted into extra effort by the engine, but this isn't the case.
@melancholyid It takes a very strong electric current to draw hydrogen out of water at a fast enough rate to make any dent in the fuel effeciency. An engine has either 6 or 8 cylinders and will rotate somewhere between 1500 and 3000 RPM (some engines are different). That is between 9,000 to 24,000 times that a cylinder will fire per minute. As you can see in this video the hydrogen is simply not being produced fast enough to account for even 0.5% of the volume of material being burned.
Normally, yes, electrolysis takes an incredible amperage to undergo... if they are going purely off of distilled water. An electrolyte solution, on the other hand, spurrs electron transfer more easily.
Now, you may be right. I'm not going to stick and argue a point just to argue it. But I'd need to see actual experimentation supporting your assertion.
One thing I've wondered is exactly how much drag an alternator causes, because if it is slight, mounting more might be feasi
@melancholyid The drag generated by an alternator is determined with something called lenz law. As the alternator turns a permanent magnet inside is rotated between electromagnetic coils just like with any other generator. This produces electricity in the coils which in turn generate another magnetic field around the coils which is in opposition to the movement of the permanent magnet. Put simply the drag of the alternator is equal to it's power output.
@melancholyid You know there are really promising technologies being worked on right now though. For example one possible energy solution being considered is to place a large solar array in orbit and transmit the power down to a recieving station on the ground as microwaves. This method has more or less been throwen out though as it would pose a danger to aircraft. However, I think if it could just be placed high enough to be above the cloud cover via a blimp it would be much safer.
@melancholyid To put it simply yes it does increase the fuel effeciency. However, the amount by which it does so is so infinately small that even if you installed this system the day the car was built... by the time the car finally calls it quits and is ready to be scrapped the fuel you will have saved because of the unit won't have even paid for that gatorade bottle he made the bubbler with.
I made on for my car the other week. I tested it on my way up north and i made my car get half the gas mileage. I attached the HHo line out to my airfilter box before the sensor. I have a 2000 jetta which has all the electronic injectors and sensors. Does anyone have any idea what might be wrong. It makes the gas really well. So that is not the problem.........
It takes more energy to break water down into hydrogen and oxygen than any potential benefit from burning it. The efficiency rating is worse than if you didn't run it. It would take more gas to run the alternator to break down the water than what you'd get out of the system. It's been tested.
I have a cell on my 2009 jeep wrangler. Sticker says 18 mpg. I have gotten 23.3 on the highway. I drove from OH to FL and back I reset it each way and it was the same. Now I have a 2010 focus and it will have one installed before to long. The car gets 34.5 mpg on the highway right now.
your completely right about the hydrogen, the more of it your engine can consume, the less primary fuel ( gas, diesel, propane) your engine needs. N.O.S's. do offer more oxygen than the atmospheric air, but also greatly decreasing the temperature of air and fuel reaching the combustion chamber. thus allowing more air volume to be consumed by the engine.
your completely right about the hydrogen, the more of it your engine can consume, the less primary fuel ( gas, diesel, propane) your engine needs. N.O.S's. do offer more oxygen than the atmospheric air, but also greatly decreasing the temperature of air and fuel reaching the combustion chamber. thus allowing more air volume to be consumed by the engine.
the reason it doesn't work for most people is you have to controll the o2 sensor input to computer and advance the timing closer to TDC because of the faster combustion of the hydrogen. if you don't doo all this it will actually retard fuel effency
@YRUIM the guy more or less made that black pvc container then put electrodes into it connected to his battery then output a hose into his air filter or carb. this will produce hydrogen from water which can be burned. HOWEVER, this process will always use more energy than it creates so his alternater would never stop running if it were running on this alone also the battery would die and the engine stop working. these are all scams and people that believe it are either crazy or stupid.
(AVR) An automatic voltage control device controls the field current to keep output voltage constant no matter how fast the motor is running. If the output voltage from the stationary armature coils drops due to an increase in demand, more current is fed into the rotating field coils. This increases the magnetic field around the field coils which induces a greater voltage in the armature coils. Thus, the output voltage is brought back up to its original value.
I wonder if it is the hydrogen or the pure O2 going into the engine that boosts, it is probably both, if you had one big enough you could have a cheaper almost bottomless nitrous tank, except with pure oxygen.
@JJINCWorldWide oxygen is not flammible despite popular beliefe. burning is the process of rapid oxidation. or the process of attaching oxygen to another element. thus oxygen itself is not fuel. there is more than enough oxygen in the air to fuel the reaction thus more will not make it more effcient. if you had for example a room completely filled with nothing but oxygen and a match lighting the match would not cause the room to explode just the match would burn quickly is all.
@gtq838 Yes, nitrous is there to add oxygen which makes the engine's fuel burn faster and hotter. He meant maybe the oxygen in this is making more of the boost than the hydrogen because it helps the fuel burn better. Who thinks oxygen is flammable, you must live in I don't know nun science land.
@aForkandaSpoon or you could just use google. oxygen doesn't burn and thats a fact. burning is the rapid oxidization of another material and oxygen doesn't react with ogygen and thus can not burn. through the process of electrolisis h2o would be turned into hydrogen and ogygen and then HYDROGEN WOULD BE BURNED thus combining the orginal oxygen molecules back to the hydrogen creating WATER or h2o.
I guess only in I don't know science land do they teach that in 6th grade.
@gtq838 Obviously oxygen doesn't burn, why did you tell me that, I said that this is supplying extra oxygen to the engine like nitrous in race car. The hydrogen is there also, but which one is doing the good or is it both. Why is everyone so stuck in their ways that they can't even try to comprehend someone else's thinking.
@aForkandaSpoon really Who thinks oxygen is flammable, you must live in I don't know nun science land. hmm, I don't think its flammible, I guess that means I don't know any science. lol, look the math is really simple this breaks up hydrogen and oxygen when the hydrogen is burned the oxygen attaches back to it.
if he were to disgard the oxygen it would get it else where.
two reasons nobody is trying to comprehend what you are thinking. 1 you are wrong. 2. your being a dick about it.
@gtq838 but if you made it so only the oxygen is going into your engine it would still perform better so my question is, is the oxygen not only burning the hydrogen but meeting midway and burning more fuel to. Also I didn't say you don't know science, I mean that because the people around you think oxygen burns you must live in a low science area, like hear in the US where we say screw science, its all about standardized tests and helping all the kids, even the ones who don't want to be there.
@gtq838 My nitrous reference was an irrelevant example of adding oxygen to boost performance. N2O is its formula see the O, the nitrous is used because pure O2 would be way to much oxygen and would blow out your engine, which means that there is nowhere near enough oxygen in normal air to reach max burn rate.
Hey mate excellent job!!! I am in the middle of doing the same thing but just watned to ask you, The reason you do this is to save on fuel, but when you have the hydrogen gasses going into the carbi, unless you are 100% running on hydrogen the car is going to put petrol in aswell so therefor your not saving on fuel at all your just mixing hydrogen with the normal amount of pertrol? is this right?
So, to the person that made this video, what is the difference in your fuel economy. Please present your data and prove this system is a worthwhile addition to your vehicle.
when i make my hydrogen booster im going to have it running from a seperate electrical circuit with 2+ batteries in the trunk to use for electricity. that way it doesnt use the engine to run the booster but it will still benifit from increased mpg. i will charge the batteries at nighttime with a charger.
Increased mpg booster = using ac power from the house instead of dc from alternator. Ac power is still cheaper than gasoline. there is of course a couple of sensors im going to have to mod 2
OMFG another gullible victim. What you have makes NO difference to performance or economy, it only places extra load on the alternator so uses slightly more fuel. The only way to reduce fuel being used is by the ECU telling the injectors to put less in to each cylinder in proportion to the amount of hydrogen being forced in. I don't see any connection to sensors or your ECU or details of a REMAP, so you are still using the same amount of fuel. WAKE UP - YOU HAVE BEEN SCAMMED !!
@migi2811 You ain't kidding this guy comes on the scene like he knows everything under the sun and only knows about 1/1005th of what he could know and about... 1/1,000,000 of what he could. Have a great day and
@1alien2 Well considering all things... and that I bought a decent camcorder for video instead of the camera I had I don't know. But that would still not be proof there bucko... Blessed Be,
I invented a breakthrough source of energy, which contradicts the law of conservation of energy. I have a PROOF that there are electrodynamic phenomena which contradict the law of energy conservation. It will cost about $1200 to make a 6 kW generator in mass production. Value of the energy produced yearly about $5400. I am looking for $300 000 for a prototype and for $3M for patents.
@1alien2 The scam is people selling these idiotic HHO generators to improve mileage. They don't work and the people selling them either know this or are in serious denial of the truth.
@knineu02 Companies are having a great laugh scamming people, not one sells a kit with sensors or ECU control or remap file which a car would need to use less fuel. I'm just amazed how many genuinely thick and stupid people there are about. How do they cope on their own!!! They don't understand how engines work and are victims of clever sales/marketing people that lie to make money. With a steady supply of idiots buying kits they are becoming rich quick! Do some research & learn about engines.
@knineu02 You are not as smart as you may think for you are very wrong , my dad has this set up in his Jeep and went from 20 mpg to 32 mpg . A scam huh ? Thanks for the warnning ........
@knineu02 terrible...build one i did its a wee bit bigger an my little girl got an a for the project at school mine works very well...if i add soap to the bubler it will make bubles you can light..any more than a cup of bubles they (the street) might call the cops for a gunshot its so loud! it does work..different methods make different gases that are less or more explosive...such as stainless and aluminum makes a gas that is hydrogen but not as explosive..try making one...its fun 2 make hho
@knineu02 hydrogen is extremely flammable, mix it with oxygen and you get something that is VERY combustable. Add this to your car's intake and you have just increased volumetric efficiency, much in the same way a NOS works, increasing the amount of oxygen in the combustion chamber. This just increases your oxygen AND provides another fuel source, hydrogen, so you are using less diesel or gas. This is a fairly popular and effective way to increase a diesel engines mpg and burns up more soot.
@knineu02 try it before you trash it. you have no proof that it doesnt work. if you do i want to see it, because youre doing something wrong. its 100% possible to run an engine on hho....
@1alien2 He is trying to alert you to how you were scammed and to make other people think twice before becoming a victim like you ! We all realise it is a shock to find you have become a victim of sales people - so I suggest you remove your video and hope everyone forgets about it. Are you refusing to believe you have been scammed or are you afraid of looking stupid?
Your answer to the initial comment just about sums up your lack of IQ - which explains why you were scammed!
adding hydrogen boosts the (already existing) fuel's efficiency. Its not used for its energy, its used for the effect i mentioned. So having a small amount of hydrogen isnt really the issue here.
aquarrius6 1 day ago
I just dont understand why people do this. What are you making, like 2 liters of gas per minute? And what's that, a 6L engine? Thats about 20000L per minute of air, or 0.01% of your intake air is generated hydrogen. At that percentage, that much hydrogen would have just absolutely zero effect.
htomerif 1 month ago
@htomerif
Except your math is wrong, you dont understand chemistry, and you havent tried it for yourself. Next question.
IronFox102 3 weeks ago
Been using a mason jar single cell for three years now. Big difference on mileage & response except baking soda fizzles out every 150 miles or so and eats up my 316 plates. Tried white vinegar with less soda.. somewhat better, but not satisfactory. Just wondering if potassium hydroxide is more forgiving on the plates, where to get it, and is it longer lasting? Thanks.
katnap72 3 months ago
@katnap72 Don't use glass, that is very dangerous. Don't use Sodium Bicarbonate (baking soda), only use Sodium Hydroxide or Potassium Hydroxide. I cannot find Potassium Hydroxide locally so I use Sodium Hydroxide.
You can find it at hardware stores usually in the drain opener section, I get Rooto 100% lye brand here.
Always use protective gear and ventilation when handling chemicals and use a bubbler for safety.
1alien2 2 months ago
@1alien2 Picked up the same Rooto stuff today and some distilled water. What's the mix for 1 Gal? 1/4 teaspoon? I'm not wanting to pull more than 10-15A if possible.
katnap72 2 months ago
@katnap72 I don't recommend mixing in a storage container as someone could mistake it as regular water.
Even clearly marked as KOH or NaOH, I wouldn't want to risk it.
I sprinkle a little at a time until the current is a few degrees from what I want it to run at, that allows for the heating up of the cell running over time.
In this cell here, usually 1/4 teaspoon is best. It really depends on the size of the cell for the correct amount.
1alien2 2 months ago
how many liters per minute?
DOPEXAMP 3 months ago
@DOPEXAMP About 1.5 lpm
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@1alien2 what electrolite, how many amps, and how many plates.
DOPEXAMP 3 months ago
@DOPEXAMP sodium hydroxide, around 12 amps and 16 plates.
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@1alien2 thanks for the help :)
DOPEXAMP 3 months ago
1alien2 , most of the negative comments come from either oil companies employees, or people afraid to try new things. This government, as well as the big boys from oil companies want us to stay ignorant. It will be up to us to take the first step , and shoved all the oil up their asses. You have a very interesting set up , and like you posted this is a Hydrogen booster. I am trying to set mine up soon. Good luck and keep on trying.
MMAinfussion 3 months ago
I'm going around and trying to network all of us hydrogen guys/gals together to help spread the word. Especially when i see others using adsense like I do.
powerzap69 6 months ago
Very nice set up. Kinda dangerouse using the anti-freeze (like sugar in a gas tank) but I see the water trap. powerzap69 two thumbs up
powerzap69 6 months ago
Sounds like a jet.
Zelle10 6 months ago
Think brother ........ It is an cheap recycle plastic container which contain >1 lit pure hydrogen and sat near to ur exotic truck motor and you haven't think what it might do? Let me tell to you some thing ......... H2 can explode with out any spark....
Gagabow 7 months ago
Wonder what will happen when hydrogen car crash with another car in small town
H2 car + Normal car = 3.759*10^1.323 Atomic blast...... Thats mean RIP small town with population 65 old folks.....XP
Gagabow 7 months ago
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danclyde12 7 months ago
@Gagabow lol
gremanboy 7 months ago
@Gagabow You're lacking simple nuclear physics knowledge. It takes an incredible amount of power to bring two hydrogen nuclei together to induce nuclear fusion. Modern day nuclear warheads use a plutonium fission bomb to provide the energy. H2 will do nothing more than burn rapidly with O2 when ignited.
mjolnirforsworn 7 months ago
@mjolnirforsworn no no no. its uranium not plutonium, plutonium is considered a dirty bomb under the treaties we mad with other country's. too much long lived isotopes fallout. uranium fission bomb is used to make compression wave and neutron swarm through lithium. breaking it and producing tritium, then the compression wave forces the tritium and core together making the fusion part of a hydrogen bomb. (tritium is hydrogen with 2 neutrons instead of just a proton alone)
mlfinerty 7 months ago
@mlfinerty Still two wrongs don't make a right. After Little Boy, uranium was found to be to inefficient as a fissile material so they used weapons grade plutonium. That is the standard fissile material of fission bombs. The point remains that without an enormous amount of energy, hydrogen will not fuse. Especially if it is 1H, not deuteurium or tritium because the nucleus of the helium atom to be formed will not be stable without two neutrons.
mjolnirforsworn 7 months ago
This maybe would work, but not everyone is prepared to have a hydrogen generator in their garage. What if it blows up? But yea, if you use it at your house and power the extractor with electricity, and then just use a full cell in a car, it might just work.
ArtypNk 8 months ago
I guess you are able to still fool people into believing this works. None of you ever make any measurements scientifically. What is the power consumption of the unit and what is the power output? Carefully designed gas mileage tests have to be conducted, before and after installation. You have not done that. False claims of gas savings make this a scam. It takes more power to make the hydrogen gas than the resulting power it can produce. SCAM
UnderManlac 8 months ago
and as for not thinking that hho cells could be a bomb. type in "hho explosion" and watch all the people who have lighters and no brain, or the ones who didn't figure the max pressure of the containers. what hapened, explosions, could be under your hood should you try this. not every one who sees this has been to college, and more people will try this than succede in boosting. more info nessecary, get off your damn soap box and quit preaching till you have contributed to systems.
Demonchld666 9 months ago
to get decent boost you need a cell bigger than 40w. the real boosters that people buy are drawing 45-60 amps. how the wires could overheat with that kind of draw is hard to imagine, wait no it's not. for the record, electrolysing water is not effiecient. unless the cataylitic process that occures pays in full for this cost you are getting a net loss.
Demonchld666 9 months ago
and btw 1alien2 I am not knocking your vid, it is decent. just knocking the bastard that thinks everyone should do this. there are flaws in the system and much working needst to be done b4 we utilize this technology on all cars.
Demonchld666 9 months ago
Thats cool............ check out my energy vid
see what u think?
scienceviewfinder 9 months ago
also if you needed to catalize a gass engine, why wouldnt you do somthing more like a catalyst coating on the top of the piston and upper part of the cylinder. maby tiny fins inside, platinum coated or with thin oxide films n shit like that. instead of putting extra stuff to go wrong inside and already overpacked engine compartement. let alone one that could fry your car or explode if conditions are wrong. conservation of energy prevents FREE energy. you are just inproving effiency a bit.
Demonchld666 9 months ago
ive studied this concept and tried it myself, it works. did u use a pulse width modulator it'll help keep your battery and alternator from overheating
massguy66 9 months ago
so what kind of benefit do you see with it?
how many cfm can your booster put out?
7digitalSunday 9 months ago
I'm amazed at how many people who claim to have a "sound understanding of physics" yet immediately dismiss this as pathological science. I've studied graduate level physics for years hoping to move to my PHD in the future. There isn't any free energy here, only a component added to supplement the inefficient rate at which the car burns petrol. Your electricity from the battery that would have become waste at some point, making oxyhydrogen that enriches fuel-air mixture. It is real science
BillyRiot1 9 months ago
@BillyRiot1 Isn't the basic proble m here that, the fuel burnt is not efficient, also the spliting of the water is inefficient. but the energy used to split the water is derived from the burning of gasoline. so you are using bad economy and taxing it more to produce energy to plug into an also flawed process. wouldn't you just double your losses? just like adding an extra resistor? sure the alternator dumps out more than is nessecary most the time, does this justify over drawing all the time?
Demonchld666 9 months ago
@Demonchld666 The fuel burnt is not inefficient, the method of converting the energy into motion is. The splitting of water isn't inefficient, the method of doing so is. The energy provided from the battery/alternator is beyond sufficient. This process takes wasted energy from an inefficient system, adds an additional fuel type from another inefficient system, and improves the efficacy of the previous. Answering your question; yes, both systems are inefficient and no, not like a resistor at all.
BillyRiot1 9 months ago
@BillyRiot1 so the fuel to movement is inefficent, ya said that. so spliting water not a problem, but actually doing so is, ya said that. and the extra energy from the alternator is only that.... at times extra. some times it is nessecary dumb ass. you are gonna burn out your batery and alternator sooner for sure than if you did not do this. there is several hundred bucks for what. adding a potential bomb under your hood. even if no boom. could ground out and fry your whole system idot!
Demonchld666 9 months ago
@Demonchld666 I'm impressed at your ability to remain civil during this otherwise ground shaking discussion. In other news; no, it could not become a bomb and ,unless you are incompetent, has no ability to 'ground out and fry your whole system'. I apologize, as I was under the impression you were lacking formal education, but as your grammar and punctuation have swayed my skills of perception, I'll assume you know exactly what your talking about. Have a nice day.
BillyRiot1 9 months ago
@BillyRiot1 ya. could be a bomb. ya there are flaws. ya you have to replace you batts and alts regularly instead of every few years. I guess it's ok to pay a several 100$ a year to replace an alt when you didn't have to. right you saved all that money on gas. using a powerade not scientific. even using a water purifying poly carbonate trap is stupid. plastic will break. hho will get out. engine is hot. ungrounded hot leads will ground. and your were going for your masters... soooory!
Demonchld666 9 months ago
@BillyRiot1 oh ya an being that I am all civil and shit, you are a fucking moron.
Demonchld666 9 months ago
@Demonchld666 You sir, are classy. And I must commend you on your rebuttal! I am completely disarmed. I'm especially astounded by the way you utilized the misnomer 'hho'. Tell me, with all of your higher education, what is the most abundant solution in all the world, yet capable of powering the entire world's energy needs with only one gallon?
BillyRiot1 9 months ago
@BillyRiot1 THE SUN
Demonchld666 9 months ago
@Demonchld666 And I'm still a little confused, how did you think an electrolysis cell could become a bomb?
BillyRiot1 9 months ago
@BillyRiot1 are you that stupid after all that schooling..... how is an electrolysis cell a bomb. what do you get when you electrolyse water. oxygen and hydrogen right? what hppens when the two are mixed and subjected to a high temp. is there any flash back controle? wow just poped your plastic cell. where did the bat leads go, oh shity, they grounded out on the chassy. damn now my car is fuckd.
Demonchld666 9 months ago
@Demonchld666 LOL! So that's what happens when electricity runs through your car? It breaks the whole thing? That explains so much! I suppose that's why all of those "scientists" ground the "circutes" neutral to the "chassy" (which I imagine is something like 'chassis').
BillyRiot1 9 months ago
@Demonchld666 actually only the battery would get fucked up if the circuit closed and you need fire to ignite gas not high temps, nice try though, think it through next time you post in a know it all rage.
HappyJackProduction1 8 months ago
@HappyJackProduction1 hey happy, read a book and check the flash point for a stoichiometrically balanced mixture of oxygen and hydrogen. just hydrogen and open air is ridiculous. it's similar to acetylene and oxygen, static electricity can set it off and you with it. you don't need a flame, high enough temps are fine, static is fine, a spark is fine, oh ya when the cell breaks and a posative grounds out ya think its gonna pour out candy? nope just a spark, heat and molten metal bits. have fun
mlfinerty 7 months ago
@mlfinerty Tell me more Mr.Science lol. High enough temps are fine for an explosion? ya maybe 1200 degrees and in a totally different under pressure application, but not under the hood temps and since any cell out there doesn't make enough hydrogen fast enough to fill the engine compartment along with all the rushing air underneath, what would happen is a battery possibly getting wrecked and your PLASTIC jar melting and the electrolyte spilling out. So im correct again, nice try though lmao
HappyJackProduction1 7 months ago
@BillyRiot1 many scientist deciding how our cars are made, for saftey. adding this type of shit requires that you learn about cars and devise better circutes for anticipated power draw, just like they did with every component added to the vehicle. draw is important to wire size as well as consumption. bigger atl might not have a prob. bigger allt needs more gas. there went your free gas. wires not prop size over heat. add that to a poor hho gen = boom. be smart free! stay stupid expensive!
Demonchld666 9 months ago
@Demonchld666 So I suppose the battery, whose capacity regularly exceeds 5kWh, can't spare 12 volts and 5 amps at a regulated 30kHz modulation? Let me do the math real quick....out of the 5000 watts available, and with a draw of approximately 40 watts....I guess I'm just SOL....there just isn't enough there...
BillyRiot1 9 months ago
@BillyRiot1 also the batt doesn't really power the car. it enables starting. the alt runs the show from then on. unless more power is needed say like towing up hill when your rig is redlined. so you are inherently overheating the alt on a reg basis. it doesnt produce a huge ammount in excess of your needs unless you upgrade it. re-rig ur system if you wanna do this. that is what I am saying. can't just incorporate in any car w/o consequence. or they would already do this from the factory.
Demonchld666 9 months ago
@Demonchld666 done* sory
Demonchld666 9 months ago
awesome!
HHO2011 9 months ago
Has anyone tried anhydrous ammonia as a fuel???????
adriiPortillo 10 months ago
is that radioactive piss?
wildpunkz4 10 months ago
That's a ghetto radiator.
aladinCofu 10 months ago
Notice how all the stupid people criticize you instead of realizing what you have there; It is not by any means free energy, it is an alternative which is cleaner, more efficient and made from the one resource we have an abundance of. Water. Open up a book or two haters/idiots and realize the future.
DeadPixel91 10 months ago 2
@DeadPixel91 Excuse me sir but are you familliar with the math behind the energy effeciency of this system? The reasoning behind it does sound quite sound untill you have seen the actual figures. Unfortunately the amount of electrical energy needed to draw the hydrogen out of the water is roughly equivilant or slightly greater than the amount of energy released when that hydrogen is burned. Furthermore the alternator puts additional load on the engine equal to the electrical energy being used.
MrAwsome514 10 months ago
@MrAwsome514 Hmmm.. Good ol' tried and tested maths huh??? Have you ever invented anything??? Where do you think new, better technology comes from??? People like this man, who despite what the "experts" say is not afraid to look at the mathematics tear them up and start fresh. Stop believing what other people feed you and think for yourself mate, or stop coming on to these pages deliberately disproving people because it makes you feel good. If you know it doesn't work why are you even here???
DeadPixel91 10 months ago 2
@DeadPixel91 I am not basing this off of theoretical math here retard. I am basing it off of testing results. Yes that is right... It has been tested many times and nomatter how many times we do it the results allways come back as the excess draw on the engine from the alternator to power the hydrogen system is greater than the extra horse power produced by burning said hydrogen. ALL credible test results show reduced fuel effeciency.
MrAwsome514 10 months ago
@DeadPixel91 The engine has to put out more energy to cover the additional electrical energy being consumed to produce the hydrogen and when that hydrogen is burned in the engine it usually just barely makes up for the extra strain the system has put on the engine. Infact all recorded data from reputable sources show that most tests come back showing slightly less fuel effeciency and those which come back showing increase effeciency it is too small an increase to measure for confirmation.
MrAwsome514 10 months ago
@MrAwsome514 You know what? I am not even going to bother arguing with you this conversation is already finished.
I concede your point, on the basis of
a) Im a nineteen year old with little to no theoretical knowledge.
b)Even if i did win the argument i would still lose.
c)Trying to teach someone that has already been taught is pointless.
DeadPixel91 10 months ago
@DeadPixel91 You are right. Trying to teach some one who has allready been taught is pointless. That is why these scammers don't target people who allready have a good sound understanding of physics. It is why they go so far as to make up stories about some evil secret organization trying to hide the tech... Because they have to make sure you reject anyone who actually knows what they are talking about so you don't learn the actual science.
MrAwsome514 10 months ago
@MrAwsome514 Lol im no conspirator, i would say more of an amateur theoretical inventor :) I guess i am trying to say dont dismiss anyones idea until you have thoroughly investigated it, you could find something that you have missed that could mean the difference between a small increase (or decrease i cant remember the video) in fuel economy or a global scale conversion to 'solar' energy.
DeadPixel91 10 months ago
@DeadPixel91 It has been thoroughly investigated... Many time by many different highly reputable organizations. All results came back showing a minor decrease in effeciency. Car companies are constantly working on a way to make cars more effecient so they can better compete with eachother. They where amung the first to try it. And they where amung the first to throw it out as the useless trash it was. Unfortunately a bunch of scammers got thier paws on it to milk it for what ever they can get.
MrAwsome514 10 months ago
@DeadPixel91 We do have real viable technologies in the work which show REAL progress. The reason these scams piss me off the way they do is because they target the young people who have yet to learn much about physics and then fill thier heads with a bunch of crap in the hopes of making some money off of them in the process. The people they fool often go on to try for years to make the "technology" work before finally realizing they where the punch line of a very sick joke.
MrAwsome514 10 months ago
@DeadPixel91 When scams like this manage to draw people into them. It robs the world of the inventions they could have made had they gone on to learn real physics instead.
MrAwsome514 10 months ago
Awesome! Thanks for thinking for yourself and sharing your creative genius. Working on converting my car too :)
gypsysadhu 10 months ago
love how most the people on here are knocking this. my put too hydrogen boosters on his diesel and it bumped his mpg from 16 to 20 - 25. you have to regulate the amps so it optimizes how much hydrogen it makes. you also have to lie to the oxygen sensor on newer vehicles so it doesnt read that it needs even more gasoline.
MythXman 10 months ago
BULLSHAT!!!!
jamesroy1983 10 months ago
this makes no sense
glitterprincess99 10 months ago
where is the energy to produce the hydrogen coming from?
spotlightman1234 10 months ago
I clicked it cause of the gatorade bottle.
DangerDarf 10 months ago 71
@DangerDarf Actually it's a Powerade bottle, thanks for clicking :)
1alien2 10 months ago 26
@DangerDarf so did i
goosebumpfan 7 months ago
before posting, do research. The hydrogen booster is well documented and works.. My Moron talking about loss of gas is stupid.. the energy that is being used for hydrogen production comes from the alternator.. i can run my laptop and charge my phone and talk on my CB from the extra power that alternator puts out.. Why not use the extra AMPERAGE to convert water into HYDROGEN and OXYGEN and boost my fuel economy...
aperseghin 10 months ago
@aperseghin What you are not understanding is that because of something called lenz law the electromagnetic coils in the alternator also have a magnetic field around them which opposes the movement of the permanant magnet in the rotor. In other words the alternator does not just produce electricty, but also a resistance against the engine. The energy of this resistance is equivilant to the electrical energy being produced.
MrAwsome514 10 months ago
@aperseghin In other words the more energy you draw off of the alternator the harder the engine has to work to turn it. If you divert power to an extra electrical system you actually make the engine burn slightly more fuel to compensate. Also I am not sure who did the documentation you are reffering to but all of the documentation I have found shows absolutely horrible results. In most cases they actually found that it made the car less effecient. Where the one's you found peer reviewed?
MrAwsome514 10 months ago
this shit is going to exploted
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@quaxk Thanks :)
1alien2 10 months ago 9
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@quaxk a reporter asked Edison if he felt bad cause it took him a thousand times before he found the right wire for his light bulb. Edison said no I found a thousand ways not to make a light bulb!
22y32g9 10 months ago
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@quaxk What's wrong with free energy?
ChaseUbito 9 months ago
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@quaxk this isnt free energy dumbass
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Retarded ?
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noob7319 11 months ago
it should create water instead of co2
genius7778 11 months ago
Is this a joke?
Show me an engine running on Fuel, and then you switching this system on, and the revs Increasing. Then I'll be Impressed...but only if it's using the car battery and electrical system.
HUGEMEOW 11 months ago
how many times have you seen one of these explode?
spencegame 11 months ago
@spencegame Never
1alien2 11 months ago
Thermodynamics... it's the law.
Ignorance of the law is not an excuse.
hdinfo1 11 months ago 3
@hdinfo1 Thanks :)
1alien2 11 months ago
@hdinfo1 ignorance is always a excuse
nathaniverson2 11 months ago
You do realize ofcourse that this is horribly ineffecient and if anything is actually wasting more gas right? Think about it. Your engine power's your alternator, your alternator sends power to the hydrogen cell, and then the hydrogen is sent to the engine as fuel. The problem is amount of energy needed to pull the hydrogen out of the water is greater than the amount of energy that the amount pulled releases when burned. You are basically wasting more gas trying to power the fuel cell.
MrAwsome514 11 months ago
@MrAwsome514 Thanks for the comment :)
1alien2 11 months ago 2
@MrAwsome514 try it
nathaniverson2 11 months ago
@nathaniverson2 My grandfather allready tried it... it did absolutely nothing for his gas mileage. I told him it was a wasted effort but he wouldn't listen. Judging by the fact that you believe it works I would have to say either you have not tried it or you have not compared the before and after on the mileage.
MrAwsome514 11 months ago
@MrAwsome514 not just that but hydrogen burns 40,000 x faster then gas right, so if u dont advance ur timing when running the hydrogen it fires to fast pushing backwards on the pistons cause a gas engine fires before top dead center and by the time it hit top it has finally fired.
hillbilliejoe 11 months ago
@hillbilliejoe Well it is not just that. The concept behind the hydrogen cell scam is based on the electrical aspect of the machine. The average person can understand that you can use electricity to pull hydrogen out of water and can understand that you can burn the hydrogen after doing so. But the average person has a much harder time figureing out just how much electrical energy it consumes to perform that process and understanding just how it compares to the energy put out by burning it.
MrAwsome514 11 months ago
@MrAwsome514
But the point of this entire setup is because the alternator generates more electricity than the truck needs, so that electricity is converted back to fuel as hydrogen, which in turn increases fuel efficiency.
You would have a point if the extra pull on the alternator converted into extra effort by the engine, but this isn't the case.
melancholyid 10 months ago
@melancholyid It takes a very strong electric current to draw hydrogen out of water at a fast enough rate to make any dent in the fuel effeciency. An engine has either 6 or 8 cylinders and will rotate somewhere between 1500 and 3000 RPM (some engines are different). That is between 9,000 to 24,000 times that a cylinder will fire per minute. As you can see in this video the hydrogen is simply not being produced fast enough to account for even 0.5% of the volume of material being burned.
MrAwsome514 10 months ago
@MrAwsome514
Normally, yes, electrolysis takes an incredible amperage to undergo... if they are going purely off of distilled water. An electrolyte solution, on the other hand, spurrs electron transfer more easily.
Now, you may be right. I'm not going to stick and argue a point just to argue it. But I'd need to see actual experimentation supporting your assertion.
One thing I've wondered is exactly how much drag an alternator causes, because if it is slight, mounting more might be feasi
melancholyid 10 months ago
@melancholyid The drag generated by an alternator is determined with something called lenz law. As the alternator turns a permanent magnet inside is rotated between electromagnetic coils just like with any other generator. This produces electricity in the coils which in turn generate another magnetic field around the coils which is in opposition to the movement of the permanent magnet. Put simply the drag of the alternator is equal to it's power output.
MrAwsome514 10 months ago
@MrAwsome514
Dammit, you're right.
I guess a wrong idea is a wrong idea, regardless of how right you want it to be. Thanks for the education man.
melancholyid 10 months ago
@melancholyid You know there are really promising technologies being worked on right now though. For example one possible energy solution being considered is to place a large solar array in orbit and transmit the power down to a recieving station on the ground as microwaves. This method has more or less been throwen out though as it would pose a danger to aircraft. However, I think if it could just be placed high enough to be above the cloud cover via a blimp it would be much safer.
MrAwsome514 10 months ago
@melancholyid To put it simply yes it does increase the fuel effeciency. However, the amount by which it does so is so infinately small that even if you installed this system the day the car was built... by the time the car finally calls it quits and is ready to be scrapped the fuel you will have saved because of the unit won't have even paid for that gatorade bottle he made the bubbler with.
MrAwsome514 10 months ago
I made on for my car the other week. I tested it on my way up north and i made my car get half the gas mileage. I attached the HHo line out to my airfilter box before the sensor. I have a 2000 jetta which has all the electronic injectors and sensors. Does anyone have any idea what might be wrong. It makes the gas really well. So that is not the problem.........
mikeinbellingham 11 months ago
@mikeinbellingham maby because youre sending twice the amount of fuel thru the sensor?
thebast4 11 months ago
It takes more energy to break water down into hydrogen and oxygen than any potential benefit from burning it. The efficiency rating is worse than if you didn't run it. It would take more gas to run the alternator to break down the water than what you'd get out of the system. It's been tested.
UnderManiac 11 months ago
can you say redneck lol
pngzng1 11 months ago 6
@pngzng1 Yes I can, why?
1alien2 11 months ago
@pngzng1 rednecks are not this smart! or smart at all for that matter
wizkid257 11 months ago
@pngzng1 Can you say a redneck using SCIENCE!
DaedricLavaWhiskey 11 months ago
@pngzng1 redneck
xxSyphenxx 11 months ago
I have a cell on my 2009 jeep wrangler. Sticker says 18 mpg. I have gotten 23.3 on the highway. I drove from OH to FL and back I reset it each way and it was the same. Now I have a 2010 focus and it will have one installed before to long. The car gets 34.5 mpg on the highway right now.
fmh2066 1 year ago
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your completely right about the hydrogen, the more of it your engine can consume, the less primary fuel ( gas, diesel, propane) your engine needs. N.O.S's. do offer more oxygen than the atmospheric air, but also greatly decreasing the temperature of air and fuel reaching the combustion chamber. thus allowing more air volume to be consumed by the engine.
georgebpfaff 1 year ago
your completely right about the hydrogen, the more of it your engine can consume, the less primary fuel ( gas, diesel, propane) your engine needs. N.O.S's. do offer more oxygen than the atmospheric air, but also greatly decreasing the temperature of air and fuel reaching the combustion chamber. thus allowing more air volume to be consumed by the engine.
georgebpfaff 1 year ago
the reason it doesn't work for most people is you have to controll the o2 sensor input to computer and advance the timing closer to TDC because of the faster combustion of the hydrogen. if you don't doo all this it will actually retard fuel effency
sooogentle 1 year ago
Cool how did u make it? And make a video of it driving
djbender11 1 year ago
what exactly is going on in this video? i just see lots of noisy machines.
YRUIM 1 year ago
@YRUIM the guy more or less made that black pvc container then put electrodes into it connected to his battery then output a hose into his air filter or carb. this will produce hydrogen from water which can be burned. HOWEVER, this process will always use more energy than it creates so his alternater would never stop running if it were running on this alone also the battery would die and the engine stop working. these are all scams and people that believe it are either crazy or stupid.
gtq838 1 year ago
@gtq838
(AVR) An automatic voltage control device controls the field current to keep output voltage constant no matter how fast the motor is running. If the output voltage from the stationary armature coils drops due to an increase in demand, more current is fed into the rotating field coils. This increases the magnetic field around the field coils which induces a greater voltage in the armature coils. Thus, the output voltage is brought back up to its original value.
Fists1 1 year ago
@Fists1 your point is?
gtq838 1 year ago
quakl a função desta porra toda , caralho
tutubinha 1 year ago
@tutubinha se falasses ingles, talvez ele te respondesse -.-
MIDNIGHTCLUB2FAN 1 year ago
@tutubinha o que isto é, é uma especie the bio-combustivel atraves da agua
MIDNIGHTCLUB2FAN 1 year ago
I wonder if it is the hydrogen or the pure O2 going into the engine that boosts, it is probably both, if you had one big enough you could have a cheaper almost bottomless nitrous tank, except with pure oxygen.
JJINCWorldWide 1 year ago
@JJINCWorldWide oxygen is not flammible despite popular beliefe. burning is the process of rapid oxidation. or the process of attaching oxygen to another element. thus oxygen itself is not fuel. there is more than enough oxygen in the air to fuel the reaction thus more will not make it more effcient. if you had for example a room completely filled with nothing but oxygen and a match lighting the match would not cause the room to explode just the match would burn quickly is all.
gtq838 1 year ago
@gtq838 Yes, nitrous is there to add oxygen which makes the engine's fuel burn faster and hotter. He meant maybe the oxygen in this is making more of the boost than the hydrogen because it helps the fuel burn better. Who thinks oxygen is flammable, you must live in I don't know nun science land.
aForkandaSpoon 1 year ago
@aForkandaSpoon or you could just use google. oxygen doesn't burn and thats a fact. burning is the rapid oxidization of another material and oxygen doesn't react with ogygen and thus can not burn. through the process of electrolisis h2o would be turned into hydrogen and ogygen and then HYDROGEN WOULD BE BURNED thus combining the orginal oxygen molecules back to the hydrogen creating WATER or h2o.
I guess only in I don't know science land do they teach that in 6th grade.
gtq838 1 year ago
@gtq838 Obviously oxygen doesn't burn, why did you tell me that, I said that this is supplying extra oxygen to the engine like nitrous in race car. The hydrogen is there also, but which one is doing the good or is it both. Why is everyone so stuck in their ways that they can't even try to comprehend someone else's thinking.
aForkandaSpoon 1 year ago
@aForkandaSpoon really Who thinks oxygen is flammable, you must live in I don't know nun science land. hmm, I don't think its flammible, I guess that means I don't know any science. lol, look the math is really simple this breaks up hydrogen and oxygen when the hydrogen is burned the oxygen attaches back to it.
if he were to disgard the oxygen it would get it else where.
two reasons nobody is trying to comprehend what you are thinking. 1 you are wrong. 2. your being a dick about it.
gtq838 1 year ago
@gtq838 but if you made it so only the oxygen is going into your engine it would still perform better so my question is, is the oxygen not only burning the hydrogen but meeting midway and burning more fuel to. Also I didn't say you don't know science, I mean that because the people around you think oxygen burns you must live in a low science area, like hear in the US where we say screw science, its all about standardized tests and helping all the kids, even the ones who don't want to be there.
aForkandaSpoon 1 year ago
@gtq838 My nitrous reference was an irrelevant example of adding oxygen to boost performance. N2O is its formula see the O, the nitrous is used because pure O2 would be way to much oxygen and would blow out your engine, which means that there is nowhere near enough oxygen in normal air to reach max burn rate.
aForkandaSpoon 1 year ago
Hey mate excellent job!!! I am in the middle of doing the same thing but just watned to ask you, The reason you do this is to save on fuel, but when you have the hydrogen gasses going into the carbi, unless you are 100% running on hydrogen the car is going to put petrol in aswell so therefor your not saving on fuel at all your just mixing hydrogen with the normal amount of pertrol? is this right?
TheDinwoodie 1 year ago
Talk about ghetto.
wbxthai 1 year ago
What does this exactly boost, your ego? Trailer park trash using powerade bottles.
norxcontacts 1 year ago
@norxcontacts It boosts your gass milage by 20% or more, that what HHO boost does. Saving money is pretty damn nice.
qcages 1 year ago
So, to the person that made this video, what is the difference in your fuel economy. Please present your data and prove this system is a worthwhile addition to your vehicle.
SeaWolfe59 1 year ago
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Delrreis 1 year ago
yeah right on jackfuckee'szzzzzzzzzz
shiznitbitslap 1 year ago
when i make my hydrogen booster im going to have it running from a seperate electrical circuit with 2+ batteries in the trunk to use for electricity. that way it doesnt use the engine to run the booster but it will still benifit from increased mpg. i will charge the batteries at nighttime with a charger.
Increased mpg booster = using ac power from the house instead of dc from alternator. Ac power is still cheaper than gasoline. there is of course a couple of sensors im going to have to mod 2
andyass3 1 year ago
OMFG another gullible victim. What you have makes NO difference to performance or economy, it only places extra load on the alternator so uses slightly more fuel. The only way to reduce fuel being used is by the ECU telling the injectors to put less in to each cylinder in proportion to the amount of hydrogen being forced in. I don't see any connection to sensors or your ECU or details of a REMAP, so you are still using the same amount of fuel. WAKE UP - YOU HAVE BEEN SCAMMED !!
urbex2007 1 year ago
Make Hydrogen and your motor runs on it.
Simple.
DrBongWater 1 year ago
i'd rather watch paint dry than this
migi2811 1 year ago 21
@migi2811 Thanks :)
1alien2 1 year ago 2
50% anti freeze so basically its running on ethanol
lumpie121 1 year ago
@lumpie121 It's running on hydrogen/oxygen created in the booster.
The anti-freeze is just to keep the water in the bubbler from freezing in cold weather here.
Besides, there isn't ethanol in anti-freeze but there is methanol, ethylene glycol, and propylene glycol.
1alien2 1 year ago 4
@migi2811 Then go watch it
dannap100 1 year ago
@migi2811 You ain't kidding this guy comes on the scene like he knows everything under the sun and only knows about 1/1005th of what he could know and about... 1/1,000,000 of what he could. Have a great day and
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whiterican74 11 months ago
@whiterican74 Where is the videos showing what you have done, John?
1alien2 10 months ago
@1alien2 Well considering all things... and that I bought a decent camcorder for video instead of the camera I had I don't know. But that would still not be proof there bucko... Blessed Be,
whiterican74 10 months ago
@whiterican74 Proof of what?
1alien2 10 months ago
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whiterican74 10 months ago
@migi2811 ill rather watch ur dad's semen dry than dis
gtariman03 10 months ago
Holy-Terrorist:>*=* good
Agentoxedo07 1 year ago
its a boat.
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henrykay01 1 year ago
Scam Alert!
knineu02 1 year ago 3
@knineu02 What are you scamming?
1alien2 1 year ago
@1alien2 The scam is people selling these idiotic HHO generators to improve mileage. They don't work and the people selling them either know this or are in serious denial of the truth.
knineu02 1 year ago 2
@knineu02 Oh is that all, I thought it was something bad.
1alien2 1 year ago
@knineu02 Companies are having a great laugh scamming people, not one sells a kit with sensors or ECU control or remap file which a car would need to use less fuel. I'm just amazed how many genuinely thick and stupid people there are about. How do they cope on their own!!! They don't understand how engines work and are victims of clever sales/marketing people that lie to make money. With a steady supply of idiots buying kits they are becoming rich quick! Do some research & learn about engines.
urbex2007 1 year ago
@knineu02 You are not as smart as you may think for you are very wrong , my dad has this set up in his Jeep and went from 20 mpg to 32 mpg . A scam huh ? Thanks for the warnning ........
aSPITFIRE911 1 year ago
@knineu02 terrible...build one i did its a wee bit bigger an my little girl got an a for the project at school mine works very well...if i add soap to the bubler it will make bubles you can light..any more than a cup of bubles they (the street) might call the cops for a gunshot its so loud! it does work..different methods make different gases that are less or more explosive...such as stainless and aluminum makes a gas that is hydrogen but not as explosive..try making one...its fun 2 make hho
roscoe454 1 year ago
@knineu02 hydrogen is extremely flammable, mix it with oxygen and you get something that is VERY combustable. Add this to your car's intake and you have just increased volumetric efficiency, much in the same way a NOS works, increasing the amount of oxygen in the combustion chamber. This just increases your oxygen AND provides another fuel source, hydrogen, so you are using less diesel or gas. This is a fairly popular and effective way to increase a diesel engines mpg and burns up more soot.
bigdaddy0522 1 year ago
@knineu02
true tried it and it did not improwe milage a bit.
czarownicaiza 1 year ago
@knineu02 try it before you trash it. you have no proof that it doesnt work. if you do i want to see it, because youre doing something wrong. its 100% possible to run an engine on hho....
paladain55 1 year ago
@1alien2 He is trying to alert you to how you were scammed and to make other people think twice before becoming a victim like you ! We all realise it is a shock to find you have become a victim of sales people - so I suggest you remove your video and hope everyone forgets about it. Are you refusing to believe you have been scammed or are you afraid of looking stupid?
Your answer to the initial comment just about sums up your lack of IQ - which explains why you were scammed!
LEARN about cars!
urbex2007 1 year ago
Did you ever read the first law of thermodynamics? Retards like you waste tax payers' time and money providing nothing but false hopes in return.
levon606 1 year ago
jeez shut up seansalvador1! I don't think too many other people could give a crap!
tysoe27 1 year ago
Does it help save gas?? (MPGs) Increase horsepower???
bulltexan1 1 year ago