---------2-------->Whenever there's a CRPF raid, people run towards FORESTS (Mao area) and not towards the ROADS (CRPF area). If Maoist policies were such a failure, ppl in their areas of control would bail on them the instant the first CRPF brigaad arrived. That is not happening.
It would be insane not to run from armed people. On the other hand, if they are not running from Maoists too, they are fooling themselves, and as soon as Maoists gain power, they will be running from Maoists too. See, right now maoists need people to be on their side to recruit and use as cannon fodder. Once they gain power.. people are not needed anymore. Its only a matter of who has power and who wants it.
@utubehayter ---------------and as soon as Maoists gain power, they will be running from Maoists too.------------>How do u arrive at this conclusion? ONLY incident where this happened in a Socialist govt was in Khmer Rouge. Once the Maoists gain power, they need mass support and especially youth support 2 sustain it. Their economy is not GDP based either, so they need EXTRA dose of popular support.
@utubehayter ---------------->Maybe you are referring 2 parallel universe, because communists didn't run from communists anywhere except in Khmer Rouge. In other parts, after USSR fell (because of Brezhnavite era corruption that led 2 stagnation), Eastern Europe followed suit. Now, ALL of the ex Soviet Union SSR's as well as almost all of Eastern Europe are yet to gain standard of living and quality of life they enjoyed even during stagnation phase. THAT is history my friend.
@utubehayter ------------On the other hand, if they are not running from Maoists too, they are fooling themselves---------->They don';t se Maoists as their enemies obviously. And Maoists already control th Tribal Belts fully. And ppl seem 2 b content w/ them compared to this capitalist cesspool we have in place. I don't see any mass exodus of folk from their areas to justify otherwise. Why is Govt of India putting a journalist gag on visiting Mao areas even if Mao welcome them 2 tape freely?
@utubehayter ------------See, right now maoists need people to be on their side to recruit and use as cannon fodder. ----------->They don't expand to newer villages because they feel they need 2 b able 2 defend areas they occupy. If they wanted recruits, they'd be madly expanding their agrarian base and presence in areas. They're not doing it now, and doing it in a phased manner. That proves they don't see the public lik cannon fodder unlik the capitalist govt.
Defend? You have to stand your ground to defend. Maoists operate in the cover of darkness. And yes they are expanding into areas far and wide, wherever they can find cannon fodder. The idea that to expand you need "agrarian base" is fantasy. Any agriculture necessarily requires ability to defend which the maoists clearly lack. This is why they resort to hit and run tactics.
@utubehayter ---------- Maoists operate in the cover of darkness. And yes they are expanding into areas far and wide, wherever they can find cannon fodder. ------------->Standing ones ground with a force of 75k men against aforce of 300,000+ and counting is suicidal. The Maoists defend through countrattacking. They are not uber expanding and doing it in a phased manner- uber expansion was recognized as a flawed stratergy by CPI Mao leadership (we saw this report on Indian media)
@utubehayter --------2--------->Maoists didn't hint at doing programmes such as Great Leap Forward at all- which was responsible for those starvations in China. I see their agenda resembling more of Janos Kadar more so than Mao Tse Tsung. A "Maoist" simply means u believe a revolution starts in countryside and spreads 2 cities, versus Marxist Leninist who believed the inverse. It don't mean u worship the guy and wanna xerox his policies
Look, Maoism means whatever it needs to mean while Maoists are not in power (it is marketing!). Once in power, it means "They rule, you obey or you die".
@utubehayter ------------"They rule, you obey or you die".---------------->What are their "rules?" No PDS theft, no capitalistic exploitation, no caste, no religion, no race and perhaps, no tolerance for dissent. But putting a cap on expressionist freedom makes sense. Look at India. When we want 2 create a national language, someone is debating and protesting. When we want 2 interlink rivers, someone is protesting. That's why we have no development.
Their rules are whatever they decide. If you don't own anything, nothing can be stolen from you. As for capitalist exploitation, why is it so easy to move out of capitalist countries, and at the same time so difficult to move out of socialist or communist ones? As for India not developing.. throwing other people's money, land and lives at bad projects must be stopped. Nothing wrong with that. I wish these protests had the muscle power to stop these projects.
@utubehayter ------------As for capitalist exploitation, why is it so easy to move out of capitalist countries, and at the same time so difficult to move out of socialist or communist ones?------------->Because in Communist countries all education is given 2 u free of cost. If u get free of cost education and then bail to a country w/ higher material gains, that's bein opportunistic and leads 2 uncontrollable brain drain. In capitalist world, u pay for u r own education.
@xxxdieselyyy2 ----------2---------->Costs of education is free, not in capitalist world. U have 2 pay 20-50 lakh for MBBS seat in India! Costs are lower, but then material gains are also lower. So some opportunistic self centered scoundrels get taxpayer subsidized education and then bail 2 a non subsidized economy 4 higher material gain. So bailing w/o paying back for the society that made u r education possible is considered as PDS theft. No such concept exists n capitalism
Okay, so by giving you "free" education, you have the right to hold a man hostage? Is not taking that "free" education is a choice as it is in capitalist countries? This is the double game that socialists play and you talk about capitalist exploitation? What nerve you have blaming capitalists!
@utubehayter ------------Okay, so by giving you "free" education, you have the right to hold a man hostage? ------------>U r not holding anybody hostage, u r just enforcing social responsibility. OOoooooH! Socialists are so oppressive because we take in bullock cart drivers' children and give an education up to PhD for free! COME ON MAN! IN capitalist alternative, a bullock cart driver's son remains a bullock cart driver. That is why India has HDI of .50 and DPR Korea has HDI of .77 (google it)
@utubehayter -------2----------->Is not taking that "free" education is a choice as it is in capitalist countries?------------->But what if a farmer's son wants 2 become an astrophysicist? He cannot. In capitalist countries unless u front the money u r flat denied any choice of an education and thus u r denying his social mobility. THAT is MUCH more oppressive than giving free education and enforcing social responsibility.
It has become obvious to me that you know a lot of things about capitalism, that are not true. Yes, many farmer's sons have been astrophysicists in capitalist countries. In fact, he has more of a chance to become a astrophysicist because the wealth generated by the capitalist system of wealth management and growth makes far more resources available to him. And even if he decides to take that education and leave, no one is accusing of theft.
@utubehayter ------------Yes, many farmer's sons have been astrophysicists in capitalist countries.----------->Not in DEVELOPING capitalist countries compared to DEVELOPING Communist 1's. Why is Korea DPR's HDI or HUMAN DEVELOPMENT InDEX .77 (HDI = social MOBILITY) whereas India's is .50 and Pakistan's is .49? The wealth generated in capitalist system is rotated by the wealth generating class and the contingent of pop that works 4 dem as management personnel.
Do this.. since you brought up communist north korea, do you know what living conditions there are? Eating grass and walking over dead bodies in the streets sounds like a communist utopia, doesn't it?
@utubehayter -------------->LOLWUT. And who told u this? CNN? How can u have grass eaters and walking over dead bodies and have a UN certified HDI of .77????? U accuse Communists of falling 2 propaganda and getting brainwash, and look at u here :D If what u described was the case, we would be seeing HDI figures in the .20s not .77!
On eating grass, I think the South Koreans got confused w/ bhang paste (which is legal in DPRK).
Go to maps.google.com. Look at North Korean streets. Try to find people, cars etc. etc. Then go to whichever city you want and try to find a place that looks like it.
Also, are refugees escaping North Korea just making it up? The signs of torcher on their bodies, their lost family and everything? Yeah, they must all be lying. Why because the UN says so? Besides the funny fact that the UN does not go to North Korea to collect data and no foreigners without spies following them
@utubehayter ------------Also, are refugees escaping North Korea just making it up?----------->White collar bandits fleeing Indra Gandhi's India made ppl believe that she was ordering the police to castrate random males to control population, but we all know they were just pissed because Indra made them pay for robbing the country by nationalizing wealth. Most of u r "refugees" were people accused of PDS theft. PDS theft is a dire crime in DPRK.
LOL! Ah, so the stories of Sanjay Gandhi and his goons was all lies? Hmm interesting. Robbing the country, huh? As I know Phulan Devi was allowed in Parliament. Robbing the country by nationalizing their wealth.. Must be true. As you know, Tatas and Birlas were all against Indira Gandhi.
As to PDS theft, expect that to be used against anyone who refuses to obey Maoists. Why, you took public services, so you must obey and do as you are told. If you don't ..its PDS theft.
@utubehayter -------------Besides the funny fact that the UN does not go to North Korea to collect data and no foreigners without spies following them------------>The foreigner not being allowed 2 go there is bullshit. U can visit North Korea w/an Indian passport. They just don't have a dedicated tourism bureau so if u go there, a minder follows u. Well, google up "North Korea HDI" and clear u r doubts urself. Now, they got foreign staff teaching in Universities- research PUST.
Go there now. It is very great fun. The moron in charge now is risking nuclear annihilation just so he gets some foreign aid from the "evil" capitalist countries.
@utubehayter --------------->Yeah go put blanket sanctions on the country, put a black list on all countries and entities that trade w/ them and then blame the govt for suffering or worsening conditions....blah. STILL- HDI of .77 is greater than .50 and .49 for India / Pak respectively. He is not risking anihilation, he just has nukes so we don't see yet another "operation orgasmic butt liberty" or some bull crap in North East Asia.
First, the only thing he can do with a nuke is sit on it. He has no missile tech other than what China throws his way and beggars should really know their place. Second, India is not capitalist. Never was! This is why it has so much poverty and higher levels of inequality. It only has recently opened up some avenues to capitalism to enrich people and the state.. and it has done so quite well. Economics is not a zero sum game, although commies keep believing that.
Second, since you don't know what capitalism is.. there is no point in talking to you about it. It is really not fair to you.. I might as well be speaking Greek! Third, you blame sanctions. Okay, so your system fails just by external sanctions. Is there anything N Korea can export that the world needs? and by that I mean products of NKorea, and not the food aid that other countries provide it. If their system is so weak, then it is better off dead I hope the Chinese stop feeding the bastard.
@utubehayter -------------->North Korea is OBVIOUSLY deficient in food because only 13 percent of land is arable :) Yes, NK has a SUPERB capital goods production capacity. Like industrial machinery, construction equipment etc etc. OF COURSE systems get FUCKED with external sanctions as a country w/ 13 percent arable land can't produce food out of Zeus' anus.
And by capitalism if u mean Adam Smith edition where system is run by perfect competition, that became impossible since industrial rev
@utubehayter --------2----------->Their system is not "weak" they are just forced to rely on self sufficiency more than other countries. Countries like Nigeria are given FULL access to world trade, they have oil reserves yet their nation is SEVERAL notches below DPRK in terms of HDI. The fact NK is maintaining .77 despite getting battering sanctions on all fronts proves its resilience. If all of South Korea's trading partners collapse and sanctions are slapped, it'll look like Haiti.
@utubehayter -----2----------->Otherwise, why does sanction hit, drought struck DPR Korea have a higher social mobility or HDI score of .77 compared to India or Pakistan, which is .50 and .49 respectively? If what u said was true, India and Pak should have had HDI in the .80s!
"And even if he decides to take that education and leave, no one is accusing of theft."------------>That's because u r paying 4 it, if u can afford it. If u can't afford? Tough shit, pull rickshaws!
@utubehayter -------------"They rule, you obey or you die".-------------->Brother, u will get a steady dose of it already once u decide to become a Kabir Narayanan or a Ramesh Ubaidulla. Or u can get hacked 2 death if u raise a question such as "how did life start on earth" in some towns! Try speaking 2 a girl of a different religion in a collge campus and let's see how life treats u. Maoist will put tabs on socio-political expression, not on daily life as like present system
@utubehayter ------------Their rules are whatever they decide.------------>That is EXACTLY what democracies do too! In 1989, we criminalized human consumable hemp- which was the most profitable cahs crop 4 farmers. Our govt illegalized it on orders from USA even w/o consulting w/ what our ppl thought about it!
Americans are against war in Iraq, but look at what US gov is doing! Expanding war 2 Libya. So it is the govt in ANY system that "sets the rules."
I will.. if they come into power and 10 years from then on, if they are not imprisoning and killing people for fictitious PDS theft. I never claimed that democracies are good. THAT is your strawman.. all you. If you like you can go over all my comments and try to find one place where I defend it. It is you who needs to get a neutral view of things, not me.
And you are weird! You think its a big deal to talk to women of different religion on college campuses.. get a life?!
@utubehayter ------------And you are weird! You think its a big deal to talk to women of different religion on college campuses.. get a life?!----------->HA ha ha......so defending cross religious people from dogs like:
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is not having a life? Damn u, that's how my college career got spent. Obviously, that means u have no clue about how parasitic religion is in India....so 1 that needs to KNOW ABOUT LIFE is u my friend.
Right.. Fed reserve is capitalist. It is exactly what is called for by the Capitalist manifesto demand #5. Maybe, I got the wrong manifesto? Oh yeah.. Communist manifesto demand #5.
@galluer lmfao... the reason why Soviet crushed to earth is because its communism has lost to US's capitalism. And don't say China is communist because there's no equality in people's earnings. Maoists beliefs are fading fast.
I love it...this will happend if India support in Balochitan traitor.......If pakistan break in three pieces....believe me India will bread in 10 ten pieces....Insahallah....FUCK INDIA AND I SELUTE TO MAOIST FIGHTERS..........HAHHAHA
@junaidak11 ------------>U are so stupid man. I am sorry but if u r a Paki, u BETTER be hoping Maoists don't come to power, because the FIRST thing they do when they come 2 power in India is shove a 500 feet rod up u r collective asses, which is long overdue.
Maoist govt won't take orders from Pak protector aka US. Maoists don't want a separate country like Kashmir separatist- they want to change the way India is run and make us unified, secular and strong!
@ISIcyberAGENT dumbass. Maoists are not fighting against india. They are fighting against the government system. India will only become stronger even if maoists come to power. So keep dreaming loser.
@dekippiesip --------->Jesus H. Christ man......Maoists are not called "Maoists" because they worship Mao. Any Socialist revolutionary who belive revolution starts on the coutryside and spreads to the city's later are called Maoists. Leninists and Marxists believed Socialist revolution starts in cities first and spreads 2 countryside.
Want 2 know who NAxalites celebrate? Not Chairman Mao! !!!!
1:39 they did "not realize the development hasnt reached the poorest areas", what a load of bullshit. People dont fucking rise up and pledge their entire lives and families for a rebellion without being painted into the corner. the richest 1% 'did not realize' they were massacring people? that they pushed hundreds of thousands of farmers to the brink of suicide due to microloans? that they were fucking building $1 billion dollar personal houses for their oligarchs? fucking bullshit
@mistarcraw at least you know, people belive these bullshit news, the capitalist oligarchs commit a subtl genocide throughout the world, whether direct or indirect, then when the bottom rises up they become the bad guys, FTW,
@mistarcraw As do I, but its has to be worked for, and will probably voilent. I do not advocate violence, but we were conquered with violence, and while today it is not the only way of their domination of the masses, they still have and will use violence to coerce us.
the Putting down of peacful protests, makes violent revolution inevitable
@kaleo183rd yea i agree, i think its right on point what zizek calls 'divine violence', the righteous outbursts of violent justice by the most trampled-upon people, you not only see this in India, but in very many places, in Haiti, and food riots in Brazil. these are 'divine' in the sense of them seemingly 'coming out of nowhere', from an ethical demand the people carry out, a 'vision' of justice by the people, scandalizing the current ideology.
fuck you ultra nationalist brainwashed idiots! Look out of your windows and your cocooned lives and see who our naxall brothers are fighting for.........open yout eyes and see that just becaus india is a democracy dosent meen that all people are free!
@visi365 Fuck yourself bitch, I love India the way it is and I don't want any change. Bastard harami. India is great as a democracy so fuck off with your naxalite bullshit I hope they all die. Anyone trying to divide India must be killed you mofo.
@kaleo183rd If you don't like India the way it is, then fuck off to Pakistan or some other shit country but India will not be divided so keep dreaming.
@IndianBhagwan1 "If you don't like India the way it is, then fuck off to Pakistan or some other shit country but India will not be divided so keep dreaming."
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oh don't worry, when the People of india unite they'll kick you out to America or whatever plummeting Empire that feeds off humanity, and of course it'll only be a matter of time until the rest of the world stands up too.
@IndianBhagwan1 ------------I love India the way it is and I don't want any change. ---------------->Then at this rate we'll be meeting up w/ Sub Saharan Africa by 2020! As it is, our multidimensional poverty index compares areas lik Chattisgarh, Uttar Pradesh, Bihar to areas like Sierra fuckin Leone! Even Delhi has an MPI comparable only 2 Vietnam!
I want a STRONG, POWERFUL, SECULAR India that is not ruled and kept divided religion and caste. Who can bring this? NAXALITE GOVT! Get u r facts!
@xxxdieselyyy2 Under naxalites, we may be strong, but not by that much. And wtf, you want to give up freedom just for a little more power, why? We don't want India to be under a command economy either, because then we will be another target for NATO as they don't like commies. There is a lot of freedom as I have observed when visiting India very recently. Just keep it the way it is, a change in government can be very costly and could weaken India. We don't want Pakistan taking advantage of that.
@IndianBhagwan1 -------------->So you r afraid that India will be attacked by NATO? I say bring 'em on! That will make our international reputation go up in resource rich African countries, and will b willing 2 deal w/ us bilaterally. If we had a Naxalite govt, we wouldn't have had Pakistan by now!!!
I don't know what "freedom" u r talking about? U will lose political expressionist freedom but will gain a LOT more secular daily life freedoms!
@IndianBhagwan1 --------2---------->Under a Naxalite govt, there will be a ban on not calling Koteshwar Rao or CPI as sons of diseased sheeps etc., but then if I ,as a Muslim dude want 2 hold hands w/ a Hindu girl and walk into a bar and enjoy a beer, I wouldn't be hounded by a myraid of right wing fucknuts.
The CPI Mao's economic agenda resembles more of Janos Kadar's HUngary than it does Mao Tse Tsung's China. What has NATO done 4 India? NOTHING! So I say fuck 'em!
@visi365 -------------corrupt india media more intrested in showing calaberity than explotaiton of adiwasis and lower classes.----------->You are aware that journalists who travel to Naxalite areas risk getting shot at and killed BY THE STATE GOVT right? Not many journos would b willing 2 take that risk in current situation sadly except for select fw. And lal salams 2 u 2!
we dont need to eat we dont cloths we dont need we dont need job we dont need money.. we need just bullets to kill bloody indians we need weapons for freedom... Fuck india fick ghandi fuck Teranga Fuck wandaymatram.. fuck each and every thing of india..
I don't know why fiscal conservatives like milton friedman think leaving the economy will solve poverty problem. India is a counter example of friedman's argument.
No, India was and still is Socialist. They have simply opened up some areas for foreign business is to be operated. Sort of like China has, but not as wide open as China. China is far richer and far more productive than India, despite people on both sides being incredibly hardworking. India's govt is the biggest enemy of Indian people (but you can say that about every govt outthere).
Maoists are lying when they claim that India is capitalist.. but its propaganda, lying is necessary.
@utubehayter ---------------No, India was and still is Socialist------------->Yeah, right. Then why is our MPI compared to that of Sierra Leone for areas like Uttar Pradesh and Bihar? MPI, or multidimensional povrty index has WORSENED ever since Narasimha Rao signed that dreaded paper in 1991. India is also rated the 5th most liberalized economy in the world. We had our BEST MPI under Indra Gandhi. SOcialism in India died w/ Indra Gandhi and got buried under Narasimha Rao.
Check out the descriptions of all political parties in India. Try to find a party that does not adhere to socialism. To call India capitalist can only be true in the very narrow and communist sense that "all non-communist countries are capitalists". Heck, even that tiny barrier is falling apart given China and its region of influence.
@utubehayter ------------What does MPI have to do with Socialism?------------>The fact that MPI has worsened off considerably compared 2 Indra Gandhi times esp more so after 1991 coupled w/. phenominal GDP growth rates is a telling tale and rock solid confirmation we have embraced income inequality. If gdp is growing but mpi is getting crappier, that means u've become capitalist. We have more billionares than China yet 80 pc of India's pop earns less than 2 USD a day! That's capitalism 4 u!
If there is a glass of almost pure poison, you add a few drops of water to it. Would you say that the water is poisoned or the poison is watered down? If a few prisoners are allowed to visit outside the prison temporarily, that means a few people are freer than before, true. But, it does not mean that the prison does not exist anymore or that it is no longer a prison.
@utubehayter --------------And yes India is a prison.---------->Exactly. Our country needs these guys to bail us out of this prison we locked ourselves into. AS far as social development goes, we were on the right track till Indra Gandhi era at least, after that it just became 1 giant cesspool.
Bad idea.. These people (Maoists) simply want a even more horrible prison. If you think there exists socialist development.. then you are not living in reality. India went bankrupt in 1978, i.e. socialist bluff of development was caught. This is why the socialist leader named Indira Gandhi flopped around to find scapegoat. After a bankrupt India was forced (due to bankrupty) to free some Indian people up, only then the living standard of people improved.
@utubehayter -------------->I dunno bro, I lived as a commoner in Socialist India. People say all kinds of crap about it, but life was pretty comfortable and MUCH less anal. It was good man! How do u know these Maoists want a "horrible prison?" FIRST thing on their agenda is the SECULARIZATION of the land, which would mean doing a culture revolution against THEOCRATS and ETHNO NATIONALISTS who run India 2 day by keeping her divided. Secularization is the FIRST step towards our real liberation.
It was pretty comfortable, if you had a govt job. Otherwise you were starving and barely having any choice. Understand that this was a time, when motorcycles were unheard of beyond Rajdoot and Yezdi. Scooters had a year and a half of waiting period. Decent TV and radio sets had to be smuggled into the country against laws. Famines were a very common occurrence with needing foreign grain to feed the starving. If you call that development.. then you got it pretty upside down
@utubehayter ---------It was pretty comfortable, if you had a govt job. Otherwise you were starving and barely having any choice.----------->I didn't have a govt job! We were working as shopkeeps. Yezdi bikes....hmmm Jaffa 250cc! Those were solid machines, still have mine 2 this day. Who needs radio or TV 2 be happy? U could just smoke a joint w/ u r comrades and not worry about the law going anal on u! Inspite of farmers, our MPI was still superior to today's!
@utubehayter --------2---------->We know about poverty and famine in Indra Gandhi era because the govt was trying to solve it actively. Nowadays the govt doesn't even recognize the plight of farmers as legitimate! We were investing heavily on capital goods, not consumer goods, which would explain the yezdi and rajdoot. Famines happened for sure, sanctions don't help much. But still, mass farmer suicides were unheard of then. The situation for farmers was HARD but not DESPERATE.
"The situation for farmers was HARD but not DESPERATE"
Not true. But this is what they forget to tell you. The plight of farmers.. is caused by socialist policies and I expect it to get much worse. Unfortunately the Maoists will take advantage of the retarded socialist leftist policies of Indian govt and ruin the lives of Indians even more. And people generally thinking that Maoists will do "something" right will find out the hard way, that there is a price for believing lies
@utubehayter -----------The plight of farmers.. is caused by socialist policies and I expect it to get much worse.------------>Not at all, then why did thy hav a superior MPI in Indra Gandhi rule? Why were there no mass farmer suicides in Indra Gandhi rule? We had 10 bucks then but we shared 5 w/ farmers. Now we have 1000 bucks but we don't even want 2 share 50 paisa w/ them! If Indian govt was leftist 2 day, Maoists would've been easily crushed, instead they're growing stronger dan ever b4!
@utubehayter -------------And people generally thinking that Maoists will do "something" right will find out the hard way, that there is a price for believing lies----------->Again, their agro policy is in lieu more w/ Janos Kadar, not Mao Tse Tsung! They ackowledge the GLF (Great Leap Forward) by Mao as a failure. They are already implementing their agro policies in areas they control and ppl r quite happy w/ them- u don't see them rushing 2 CRPF areas whenever they come!
As for Maoists, if they had a decent idea, they would not need to use a gun to sell it. FYI, Maoists have no illusions, they already believe that power flows from the barrel of a gun and they are inclined on having the biggest one.
Read at the "brilliant accomplishments" of Mao in China.. (millions starved for being anti-and millions killed) and you will realize that as much as Hindu, Muslim and Indian nationalists are a problem, the Maoists are much worse.
@utubehayter -----------As for Maoists, if they had a decent idea, they would not need to use a gun to sell it.------------->Look at Anna Hazare, people love him, his idea is good! But has it solved anything? None. To successfully bring forth a revolution u need to overthrow th existing regime. The violence u see is the result of DECADES of neglect and outright subjugation of Tribals. Naxal influene grows steadily since 1991.
Anna Hazare, with all due kindness to this old man, is another one of those delusional people who think that you can pass laws and somehow make things better. Its not going to work, because democracy itself is a bad idea. This does not however mean that Maoism is a better idea either. The only reason no one is rushing armed forces in china is because of superior firepower and willingness of the state to brutally crush anyone daring to criticize it, let alone disagree with it.
@utubehayter ---------->We keep critiquing China, but compared to "democratic USA" how many wars has China startd in the last decade? I am glad u acknowledge party politik is a bad idea. But u say Maoism is a bad idea. Then what's a good idea? Anarchy? Right wing theocratic govt?
ALL states brutally suppress dissent if threatened. If I felt my existance as a man was being threatened, I'd go Stalingrad on the attacker. That's human behavior, not limited 2 Communists.
@utubehayter -------------If you think there exists socialist development.. then you are not living in reality. India went bankrupt in 1978-------------->That was because she had no mechanism 2 deal w/ PDS theft!!!! Still tho, we are MUCH more broke than how we were in 78- all the national wealth is in Swiss banks!
"If you think there exists socialist development"----------->USSR and Warsaw Pact? Compare them w/ present....and Russia b4 USSR and all other SSRs were agrarian! How about Cuba?
Yeah.. look at Cuba. Seriously, take the time to go and live there. I think the best anti-dote to the delusion of socialism is to live in it. Again, go live there for a few years and please take all your friends with you. Just make sure you don't "disappear". I have seen how desperate Cuban people are in wanting to escape Cuba and come to the capitalist hellhole of the United states. I will take their word over yours.
@utubehayter -----take the time to go and live there. ----->Been there, done that. But not for a few years only 1. Life ain't easy for a local, but it's MUCH better parcel than what u get in capitalist post 90s India. HDI in Cuba is .83. HDI in "liberalized" India is .50. Cuba is FAR superior to most Latin American countries in terms of HDI! I would DIE for the quality of education especially! The healthcare is top notch even if facilities r bare. In capitalist India u play arsenic or antibiotic
@utubehayter -------2---------->Not having a major trading partner (USSR) and being faced w/ US sanctions, Cuban Socialism still notched up .80+ HDI! That is superior to almost all other countries out there! Consumerist luxuries is a very poor barometer of measuring development.
@utubehayter -----2--------->Personally speaking tho, one personal thing which REALLY attracts me towards these guys is that if they come 2 power, they will form Red Guards from college students, arm them and unleash thm on the RELIGIOUS MORAL POLICE. When that happens I'm gonna re-enroll in college just to have a shot at these parasites
They are and always have unleashed them on everyone not on their side. You want the moral police gone, okay. But you are next on their list, only this time, you will have no cover, no protection and no right to oppose them. Quick shot in the head will resolve all moral disagreements.
@utubehayter ----------no protection and no right to oppose them. Quick shot in the head will resolve all moral disagreements.----------->I can imagine I wouldn't have the freedom to call Koteshwara Rao or whoever's in charge a goat, but still, at least stuff like heterosexuality or talking 2 a member of opposite gender, or intermarrying a diff religion, getting high etc won't be looked upon as a social taboo!
@utubehayter -----------2---------->Disinvestments of public sector in the hands of a few white collar bandits. Worsening of public sector infrastructure (Especially the PHC's). Thes are jus 2 examples of us embracing capitalism, I can point more cases if ya want.
@utubehayter -----------2---------->Disinvestments of public sector in the hands of a few white collar bandits. Worsening of public sector infrastructure (Especially the PHC's). Thes are jus 2 examples of us embracing capitalism, I can point more cases if ya want.
Very true in democracy , people can have Chidambaram and nitish can have different opinions , but you cant deal with Maoist with violence instead govt should do a sustained social/economic development in bihar to curb Mao wadis , otherwise this Maoist and Naxal disease can spread and intensify like a plague
@aftabo3 war with in india India is afailure state :O its nuclear asest are going to fall in terrorist hand :O ooh my god some body denuclearize india ooh noo some body stop it ooh gay hind
All these were posted by a fuckin pakistani who makes their living by sucking americans COCK
THey kill indians because of atrocites by indian gov over them, they have the right to protest and force gov to give them their rights, now hindus shudnt cry if its rising into a strong rebellion and has spread into 11 states (which is more than half of the india) then they say pakistan is creating all this, mumbai attacks were also done by these ppl or their splinter groups, bt india tries to hide so as to keep truth from being exposed to the world!!!!!!
@Fukkindians mumbai attack has true fact that the attack was planned in pakistan. the guys who carried it out were paki. what do u mean hindus shuldnt cry? hindus are the only people in the india? muslims shudntt dry because we kill terrorists in kashmir.
@Fukkindians ------------>Dude, FUCK IN A. India is not a "Hindu only" country. In Maoists, u have equal representation of Hindus, Muslims and every religious group u can find. The leader of the Maoists is called "Comrade Ganapathy"- that's pretty Hindu sounding to me :D
The Maoist rebellion is a sign that people in India are slowly thinking beyond religion and are demanding real accountability from he govt. In Pakistan, u guys still masturbate to da Talibans who r fucking u in the arse.
@xxxdieselyyy: you already do wash ur faces with cow pee.... n now are talkn like shit, hahaha son the world will see you all act like shit, lying on grounds when killed by your maoist rebels themselves n still they'l be crying like what the hell Pakistan did to them, which for real is just an excuse to hide the killers of humanity growing up in your own fkn backyard to kick ur asses, RECENTLY THE UN HEAD HAS TAKEN NOTICE OF IT, UR PM says greatest threat is maoist rebellion to their country
@MoizMasood ------------>U have eaten WAY too many cock meat sandwiches buddy. Maoists are against capitalism you stupid ignorant fuck, not against the Indian people.
Pakistan is just a fuckholistan tho. Maoists are comprised of the poorest of poor who r rising up against the govt w/o asking help from foreign countries.
Your Pak is a fuckhole- getting buttraped by your own buddies ala Taliban :P These guys are our poor ppl rising against capitalism. That shows they know der rights....
@xxxdieselyyy well i can see some hatred in your words..... try to be realistic shiThE@d lol :P well the word out there is almost every day 6policemen and 10 civilians are killed on average in some part of india by rebellions.... this count does'nt contain the statistics of innocent people killed by your forces that in turn look forward to these rebels for revenge of their blood....
@MoizMasood -----------well the word out there is almost every day 6policemen and 10 civilians are killed on average in some part of india by rebellions.---------->Are you stupid? Maoists don't target civilians, but civilians get killed in crossfire, like when govt makes SPO's (Special Police Officers) share same bus, etc., w/ civilians. BUt Maoists don't seek civilians to kill.
@MoizMasood ----------well i can see some hatred in your words..... try to be realistic shiThE@d lol :P---------->I'm not angry it's just like tryin to teach a donkey how to speak :P To be frank, if we have a Naxalite government in India, Pakistan won't be able to get all these "get out of jail free" cards like u have been getting every time u got u r ass kicked by us.
U kno...Naxalites would prolly come after YOU PAKIS after they form a govt in Delhi. And they'll get da job done.
@xxxdieselyyy well yeah really its hard to teach a donkey to teach.... i guess i cant really teach u out since animals have traits that are never to be changed... :P
hahaha but after india controls u, so infact u guyz can kill whoever u want if naxalites are in your country ruling... nice work dude... u also support fukn killers... u shud be dead from this planet already, thinking of killing ppl, its ppl like u ruining the peace of the earth just because of utter motives..
@MoizMasood ------------but after india controls u, so infact u guyz can kill whoever u want if naxalites are in your country ruling... nice work dude... u also support fukn killers------------>As if the Pakistani Army fights with super soakers and ring-o-ring-o-roses in Balochistan :)
I don't "support" killing of ppl, but I oppose capitalism in my country. Why is that so hard 4 u to grasp? Because.....it's just like tryin to teach a donkey how to speak :P
@MoizMasood ----------RECENTLY THE UN HEAD HAS TAKEN NOTICE OF IT, UR PM says greatest threat is maoist rebellion to their country--------->Oh oh OH! The PM is obviously saying that because u can negotiate with ppl who want territory. We negotiated w/ Geelani and many separatists. U can't negotiate w/ ppl who want to overthrow the system itself you fool. The Maoists don't settle for anything other than overthrowing capitalism. Kashmiri separatist just want territory.
@MoizMasood -------------real is just an excuse to hide the killers of humanity growing up in your own fkn backyard to kick ur asses----------->The killers of humanity are your Taliban butt buddies and the ISI- u set Afghanistan back 1000 years in development. good job on that!
@MoizMasood ----------n now are talkn like shit, hahaha son the world will see you all act like shit, lying on grounds when killed by your maoist rebels themselves ---------->Let them kill me, I don't give a fuck. At least future Indians can live in a SOcialist secular society rather than a religiously r ethnically divided 1. Yeah, India is divided big time, but at least our poor people are trying to fix that.
U guys still sucking Taliban cock while they ram u in the arse. PATHETICistan.
@xxxdieselyyy if and only if the rebellions going on in 22 states of your country doesnt expand to your capital haha yeah i c how poor people are fixing the situation by picking up arms against government, nice observation yeah lol i think soon your ass will get fucked by them when they do a mumbai style attack in one of the urban areas.... lol
@MoizMasood -------------do a mumbai style attack in one of the urban areas----------->That's the difference between a Communist and a religious fanatic. Viet Cong's were guerillas. But they never did a "Mumbai style attack" in South Vietnam. They did Tet Offensive but they aimed only against the GOVERNMENT and against CAPITALIST FORCES u inbred.
Ppl who target civilians nakedly like Mumbai are taliban fanatical ISI paid cowards, not Communist rebels. Did the Viet Cong target civilians? No!
@MoizMasood -------------i think soon your ass will get fucked by them when they do a mumbai style attack in one of the urban areas----------->Dude CPI Maoists are not gay lmao like u r Talibutts.
They are in FULL CONTROL of the area over Ranchi yet they didn't even hold that city hostage for ONE DAY. They are not against India u moron, only against capitalism in India. Is that so hard 2 understand?!
As long as u don't contribute to exploitation of Tribals, u should be OK.
@Fukkindians ----------mumbai attacks were also done by these ppl or their splinter groups------->Uhhhhhh no, even Ajmal Kassab's daddy admitted the terrorist and his group hailed from Faridkot, Pakistan and were paid money to carry out the acts.
war with in india India is afailure state :O its nuclear asest are going to fall in terrorist hand :O ooh my god some body denuclearize india ooh noo some body stop it ooh gay hind
@MrSeriousFun --------------indian goverment is asking these people to leave violation and come to discussion------------>Asking for negotiations after killing off u r chief CIVILIAN negotiator (Azad) doesn't inspire much confidence on the system. And throwing journalists in jail for simply TALKING TO Naxal's doesn't show that the govt is interested in a long pronged out dialogue either.
@TheSolitaryRex ------------Hahahha! ISI fucks Hindustan in the deadliest fashion.---------->Fuck the ISI. These are our own people, demanding thier rights from a corrupted government. That shows the poorest of poor Indians are starting to demand real accountability from the State!
When are u guys gonna have a people's movement in Pakistan?! Don't associate filth like ISI (International Sluts Institute) with a PEOPLES MOVEMENT.
@sohil486 You r wrong,Lord doesn't really care about me.Lord cares about how corrupted India has become & how tribal people r being robbed from the Central government.
Here is what will happen: Naxalites take over Central, East and Southern India and claim independence by 2012.
Cashmir will fight off India and Punjabis to push out Indians and Cashmir will also claim independence. Sikhs becomes independent too.
China gets Arunachal Pradesh, West Bengal becomes independent.
@AzerChristians -----------Here is what will happen: Naxalites take over Central, East and Southern India and claim independence by 2012.---------->Naxalites are not territorial. Naxals, unless I'm mistaken r aiming 4 Delhi and their manifesto (u could read it b4 they were outlawed by govt) was UNIFYING SOUTH ASIA.
Naxals are against capitalism in India dude, not against India itself. I'd like to see how Pak can do their bullshit w/a Naxalite government n India.
@xxxdieselyyy Sure, I love the idea of Maoists UNIFYING SOUTH ASIA. I would even encourage them take over Pakistan, Sri Lanka, West Banal & unify Nepal too. Wouldn't you love THAT ? An even BIGGER Indian Empire !!
I'm against Capitalism too, but even more, I am against CASTE and Elitism and theocracy.
Go get Pakistan, Maoists ! .......after throwing out Delhi in 2012.
@AzerChristians ------------Wouldn't you love THAT ? An even BIGGER Indian Empire !!--------->I would for sure, but I don't think we're going 2 b an Empire- we'll just help other countries emancipate themselfs from colonization like good ol USSR :)
Caste , elitism and theocracy are 3 cancers why we are still so underdeveloped. And the present trend since 1947 of pissing on patriots and ppl who worked hard 4 India to benefit nation looting scum need to stop, really!
@xxxdieselyyy --------2--------->We gave up our whole personal possessions both when Cha-Cha asked and when Indra asked. Many others fled like rats to Europe. But today, ppl who stood back 4 India are being forced to endure gruelling 4-10 hour daily powercut whereas the MNC and the "NRI" residential complex right next door doesn't even get voltage fluctuation!
I dunno I have lost all faith in this "democratic" hogwash- just a cover up for elitist politiks. I am hopeful 4 a change!
@xxxdieselyyy -------3----------->Right now I can betcha NATO is just laughing their asses off at how we South Asians beg them for weapons to kill off one another.
@xxxdieselyyy I concur with ALL things u said so far. Wow, that's refreshing from an Indian, if u indeed r.
Remember the history of ur hated neighbor, China, who were ravaged by 10 foreign powers led by Brits & Japs & French for over 200 years ?? These foreign powers robbed nearly all the gold & silver to build THEIR military to go back for MORE and colonized China like wolves! That lasted OVER 100 YEARS! Now, these abusers all fear the repercussions from their crimes.
@AzerChristians ------------>Thanks for your kind words :) I am a "Chinese spy" class of Indians (mainstream label #83497289347298) :P "Betrayer of India", "Chinese traitor", "back stabber of the motherland" - damn it's like an award ceremony gone wrong.
You are 300000000 percent correct about China! And they came out of colonial yoke, and creatd a China 4 Chinese, whereas India still has to make that change. That' the ONLY hope we have, though I dunno if it'll happen in 2k12.
@AzerChristians --------------->MAoists have repeatedly refused to partition South Asia further. Charu Majumder was DEAD against further partitioning of SOuth Asia. Maoists also draw their ideological base from martyrs like Shaheed Bhagat Singh. Please type "QUEST FOR NEW INDIA" on youtube.
The Maoists are there 2 unify us and make us a powerful country. Then we can shove a dynamite stick up NATO's ass in SOuth Asia.
@xxxdieselyyy2 not sure if we will have problems with Tamils because Tamils really need stability now to grow, so maybe Tamils can also uphold socialism as Naxalites do and Maoists in Nepal rather than being just one ethnic culture based political movement. If Tamils is as socialist as maoists, I don't see any problems as both maoists & tamils don't want New Delhi's meddling and oppression and corruption.....
@AzerChristians ----------->That's the problem sir! The most fiercest opposition 2 Socialism often came from Tamil Nadu. There is too much ethno nationalism and Kamaraaj style moral policing there. Tamil Nadu is actually quite content w/ the setup it has w/ Delhi! There is fierce support for Communism in Kerala, Karnatak, Andhra ,and almost all other states, but in Tamil Nadu, it is a hard ballgame. That state is not gonna have it easy we get a CPI Mao Govt.
@xxxdieselyyy2 Tamil Nadu won't amount to much, as they are in very shaky ground as Sri Lankan & Naxalites would sandwich them to wipe them out as in Sri Lanka..Maoists support equal right for all, for women and no CASTE to segregate people due to heritage, religion,gender etc. When a CPI Mao govt is established, we might see the big economic boom as in Sri Lanka, especially with socialist China's help to rebuild, while New Delhi will crumble by their corruption, and colonial-styled abuses.
@AzerChristians ----------->Economic boom? Not likely, at least for 20-30 years. The 20-30 yr period will consist of social re-engineering which will cost a shaft and a leg economically. But AFTER that phase, you will xperience boom. Post Mao / Hua Guafeng China is SOcialist????? I agree w/ u on Naxalite policies, but they don't want India 2 crumble, they want it 2 become stronger and r convinced our current group of capitalist NATO concubines aren't doing it 4 us.
To those of you who think that naxals are good, all i can say is that their people who kill innocent, poor people in the name of fighting for the poor. Their a bunch of hypocritical organized assholes bent on trying to take over India. That isnt goona happen.
Dear I think the Salwa Judum supported by the govt. killing innocent people & Now there is operation green hunt. Salwa Judum not only kill the people but also rape the women & kill children s also. The Indian Democracy is for the people living in Cities not for who lives in forest. search the you tube you will get all the evidence. There no body who will help the poor Adivasi. Only because corporates want their Land for mining. Shame on this democracy .
@vishwashantiforall I understand your point, that the Indian government is not doing enough, but if you give them time they will. Remember we already have enough conflicts, and we need us all to be one, only then will we ever solve our conflicts of intrest. And we should not mine in places sacred to the tribal people.
And if you give the government enough time, they will improve things.
Violence isnt the answer. maoist kill innocent poor people themselfves, they dont fight for them.
India has a similar set up to Europe during the early days of Christianity : Unity between States based on Religion. But this is inherently flawed.
Like European "Kingdoms" and "Principalities", Indian states (originally separate kingdoms) have cultural and linguistical differences and these differences will eventually lead to creation of Sovereign Independent States, just like European Countries today.
@mallapottell dude do you think if the naxals try to infiltrate urban areas and government gonna take it easy?! no fuc*ing way!, they surely gonna use the army and blow them all to pieces and they won't even regret it and they are even think of using the army now but they won't use them unless its really necessary. why would they use army and choppers and jets to kill there own people but they won't stop if they become risk for indian economy or its civilians...
LOL " this is the elite group" Holy shit the casual group must suck :P
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galluer 3 months ago
---------2-------->Whenever there's a CRPF raid, people run towards FORESTS (Mao area) and not towards the ROADS (CRPF area). If Maoist policies were such a failure, ppl in their areas of control would bail on them the instant the first CRPF brigaad arrived. That is not happening.
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@xxxdieselyyy2
It would be insane not to run from armed people. On the other hand, if they are not running from Maoists too, they are fooling themselves, and as soon as Maoists gain power, they will be running from Maoists too. See, right now maoists need people to be on their side to recruit and use as cannon fodder. Once they gain power.. people are not needed anymore. Its only a matter of who has power and who wants it.
utubehayter 5 months ago
@utubehayter ---------------and as soon as Maoists gain power, they will be running from Maoists too.------------>How do u arrive at this conclusion? ONLY incident where this happened in a Socialist govt was in Khmer Rouge. Once the Maoists gain power, they need mass support and especially youth support 2 sustain it. Their economy is not GDP based either, so they need EXTRA dose of popular support.
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@xxxdieselyyy2
The only incident? Geez.. the rest of history did not happen for you? Parallel universe maybe?
utubehayter 5 months ago
@utubehayter ---------------->Maybe you are referring 2 parallel universe, because communists didn't run from communists anywhere except in Khmer Rouge. In other parts, after USSR fell (because of Brezhnavite era corruption that led 2 stagnation), Eastern Europe followed suit. Now, ALL of the ex Soviet Union SSR's as well as almost all of Eastern Europe are yet to gain standard of living and quality of life they enjoyed even during stagnation phase. THAT is history my friend.
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@utubehayter ------------On the other hand, if they are not running from Maoists too, they are fooling themselves---------->They don';t se Maoists as their enemies obviously. And Maoists already control th Tribal Belts fully. And ppl seem 2 b content w/ them compared to this capitalist cesspool we have in place. I don't see any mass exodus of folk from their areas to justify otherwise. Why is Govt of India putting a journalist gag on visiting Mao areas even if Mao welcome them 2 tape freely?
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@utubehayter ------------See, right now maoists need people to be on their side to recruit and use as cannon fodder. ----------->They don't expand to newer villages because they feel they need 2 b able 2 defend areas they occupy. If they wanted recruits, they'd be madly expanding their agrarian base and presence in areas. They're not doing it now, and doing it in a phased manner. That proves they don't see the public lik cannon fodder unlik the capitalist govt.
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@xxxdieselyyy2
Defend? You have to stand your ground to defend. Maoists operate in the cover of darkness. And yes they are expanding into areas far and wide, wherever they can find cannon fodder. The idea that to expand you need "agrarian base" is fantasy. Any agriculture necessarily requires ability to defend which the maoists clearly lack. This is why they resort to hit and run tactics.
utubehayter 5 months ago
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@utubehayter ---------- Maoists operate in the cover of darkness. And yes they are expanding into areas far and wide, wherever they can find cannon fodder. ------------->Standing ones ground with a force of 75k men against aforce of 300,000+ and counting is suicidal. The Maoists defend through countrattacking. They are not uber expanding and doing it in a phased manner- uber expansion was recognized as a flawed stratergy by CPI Mao leadership (we saw this report on Indian media)
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@utubehayter --------2--------->Maoists didn't hint at doing programmes such as Great Leap Forward at all- which was responsible for those starvations in China. I see their agenda resembling more of Janos Kadar more so than Mao Tse Tsung. A "Maoist" simply means u believe a revolution starts in countryside and spreads 2 cities, versus Marxist Leninist who believed the inverse. It don't mean u worship the guy and wanna xerox his policies
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@xxxdieselyyy2
Look, Maoism means whatever it needs to mean while Maoists are not in power (it is marketing!). Once in power, it means "They rule, you obey or you die".
utubehayter 5 months ago
@utubehayter ------------"They rule, you obey or you die".---------------->What are their "rules?" No PDS theft, no capitalistic exploitation, no caste, no religion, no race and perhaps, no tolerance for dissent. But putting a cap on expressionist freedom makes sense. Look at India. When we want 2 create a national language, someone is debating and protesting. When we want 2 interlink rivers, someone is protesting. That's why we have no development.
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@xxxdieselyyy2
Their rules are whatever they decide. If you don't own anything, nothing can be stolen from you. As for capitalist exploitation, why is it so easy to move out of capitalist countries, and at the same time so difficult to move out of socialist or communist ones? As for India not developing.. throwing other people's money, land and lives at bad projects must be stopped. Nothing wrong with that. I wish these protests had the muscle power to stop these projects.
utubehayter 5 months ago
@utubehayter ------------As for capitalist exploitation, why is it so easy to move out of capitalist countries, and at the same time so difficult to move out of socialist or communist ones?------------->Because in Communist countries all education is given 2 u free of cost. If u get free of cost education and then bail to a country w/ higher material gains, that's bein opportunistic and leads 2 uncontrollable brain drain. In capitalist world, u pay for u r own education.
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@xxxdieselyyy2 ----------2---------->Costs of education is free, not in capitalist world. U have 2 pay 20-50 lakh for MBBS seat in India! Costs are lower, but then material gains are also lower. So some opportunistic self centered scoundrels get taxpayer subsidized education and then bail 2 a non subsidized economy 4 higher material gain. So bailing w/o paying back for the society that made u r education possible is considered as PDS theft. No such concept exists n capitalism
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@xxxdieselyyy2
Okay, so by giving you "free" education, you have the right to hold a man hostage? Is not taking that "free" education is a choice as it is in capitalist countries? This is the double game that socialists play and you talk about capitalist exploitation? What nerve you have blaming capitalists!
utubehayter 5 months ago
@utubehayter ------------Okay, so by giving you "free" education, you have the right to hold a man hostage? ------------>U r not holding anybody hostage, u r just enforcing social responsibility. OOoooooH! Socialists are so oppressive because we take in bullock cart drivers' children and give an education up to PhD for free! COME ON MAN! IN capitalist alternative, a bullock cart driver's son remains a bullock cart driver. That is why India has HDI of .50 and DPR Korea has HDI of .77 (google it)
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@utubehayter -------2----------->Is not taking that "free" education is a choice as it is in capitalist countries?------------->But what if a farmer's son wants 2 become an astrophysicist? He cannot. In capitalist countries unless u front the money u r flat denied any choice of an education and thus u r denying his social mobility. THAT is MUCH more oppressive than giving free education and enforcing social responsibility.
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@xxxdieselyyy2
It has become obvious to me that you know a lot of things about capitalism, that are not true. Yes, many farmer's sons have been astrophysicists in capitalist countries. In fact, he has more of a chance to become a astrophysicist because the wealth generated by the capitalist system of wealth management and growth makes far more resources available to him. And even if he decides to take that education and leave, no one is accusing of theft.
utubehayter 5 months ago
@utubehayter ------------Yes, many farmer's sons have been astrophysicists in capitalist countries.----------->Not in DEVELOPING capitalist countries compared to DEVELOPING Communist 1's. Why is Korea DPR's HDI or HUMAN DEVELOPMENT InDEX .77 (HDI = social MOBILITY) whereas India's is .50 and Pakistan's is .49? The wealth generated in capitalist system is rotated by the wealth generating class and the contingent of pop that works 4 dem as management personnel.
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@xxxdieselyyy2
Do this.. since you brought up communist north korea, do you know what living conditions there are? Eating grass and walking over dead bodies in the streets sounds like a communist utopia, doesn't it?
utubehayter 5 months ago
@utubehayter -------------->LOLWUT. And who told u this? CNN? How can u have grass eaters and walking over dead bodies and have a UN certified HDI of .77????? U accuse Communists of falling 2 propaganda and getting brainwash, and look at u here :D If what u described was the case, we would be seeing HDI figures in the .20s not .77!
On eating grass, I think the South Koreans got confused w/ bhang paste (which is legal in DPRK).
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@xxxdieselyyy2
Go to maps.google.com. Look at North Korean streets. Try to find people, cars etc. etc. Then go to whichever city you want and try to find a place that looks like it.
Also, are refugees escaping North Korea just making it up? The signs of torcher on their bodies, their lost family and everything? Yeah, they must all be lying. Why because the UN says so? Besides the funny fact that the UN does not go to North Korea to collect data and no foreigners without spies following them
utubehayter 5 months ago
@utubehayter ------------Also, are refugees escaping North Korea just making it up?----------->White collar bandits fleeing Indra Gandhi's India made ppl believe that she was ordering the police to castrate random males to control population, but we all know they were just pissed because Indra made them pay for robbing the country by nationalizing wealth. Most of u r "refugees" were people accused of PDS theft. PDS theft is a dire crime in DPRK.
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@xxxdieselyyy2
LOL! Ah, so the stories of Sanjay Gandhi and his goons was all lies? Hmm interesting. Robbing the country, huh? As I know Phulan Devi was allowed in Parliament. Robbing the country by nationalizing their wealth.. Must be true. As you know, Tatas and Birlas were all against Indira Gandhi.
As to PDS theft, expect that to be used against anyone who refuses to obey Maoists. Why, you took public services, so you must obey and do as you are told. If you don't ..its PDS theft.
utubehayter 5 months ago
@utubehayter -------------Besides the funny fact that the UN does not go to North Korea to collect data and no foreigners without spies following them------------>The foreigner not being allowed 2 go there is bullshit. U can visit North Korea w/an Indian passport. They just don't have a dedicated tourism bureau so if u go there, a minder follows u. Well, google up "North Korea HDI" and clear u r doubts urself. Now, they got foreign staff teaching in Universities- research PUST.
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@xxxdieselyyy2
Have you been there? If not, please visit it. It would be a good learning experience.
utubehayter 5 months ago
@utubehayter ------------->In 1982.
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@xxxdieselyyy2
Go there now. It is very great fun. The moron in charge now is risking nuclear annihilation just so he gets some foreign aid from the "evil" capitalist countries.
utubehayter 5 months ago
@utubehayter --------------->Yeah go put blanket sanctions on the country, put a black list on all countries and entities that trade w/ them and then blame the govt for suffering or worsening conditions....blah. STILL- HDI of .77 is greater than .50 and .49 for India / Pak respectively. He is not risking anihilation, he just has nukes so we don't see yet another "operation orgasmic butt liberty" or some bull crap in North East Asia.
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@xxxdieselyyy2
First, the only thing he can do with a nuke is sit on it. He has no missile tech other than what China throws his way and beggars should really know their place. Second, India is not capitalist. Never was! This is why it has so much poverty and higher levels of inequality. It only has recently opened up some avenues to capitalism to enrich people and the state.. and it has done so quite well. Economics is not a zero sum game, although commies keep believing that.
utubehayter 5 months ago
Second, since you don't know what capitalism is.. there is no point in talking to you about it. It is really not fair to you.. I might as well be speaking Greek! Third, you blame sanctions. Okay, so your system fails just by external sanctions. Is there anything N Korea can export that the world needs? and by that I mean products of NKorea, and not the food aid that other countries provide it. If their system is so weak, then it is better off dead I hope the Chinese stop feeding the bastard.
utubehayter 5 months ago
@utubehayter -------------->North Korea is OBVIOUSLY deficient in food because only 13 percent of land is arable :) Yes, NK has a SUPERB capital goods production capacity. Like industrial machinery, construction equipment etc etc. OF COURSE systems get FUCKED with external sanctions as a country w/ 13 percent arable land can't produce food out of Zeus' anus.
And by capitalism if u mean Adam Smith edition where system is run by perfect competition, that became impossible since industrial rev
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@utubehayter --------2----------->Their system is not "weak" they are just forced to rely on self sufficiency more than other countries. Countries like Nigeria are given FULL access to world trade, they have oil reserves yet their nation is SEVERAL notches below DPRK in terms of HDI. The fact NK is maintaining .77 despite getting battering sanctions on all fronts proves its resilience. If all of South Korea's trading partners collapse and sanctions are slapped, it'll look like Haiti.
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
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@utubehayter -----2----------->Otherwise, why does sanction hit, drought struck DPR Korea have a higher social mobility or HDI score of .77 compared to India or Pakistan, which is .50 and .49 respectively? If what u said was true, India and Pak should have had HDI in the .80s!
"And even if he decides to take that education and leave, no one is accusing of theft."------------>That's because u r paying 4 it, if u can afford it. If u can't afford? Tough shit, pull rickshaws!
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@utubehayter -------------"They rule, you obey or you die".-------------->Brother, u will get a steady dose of it already once u decide to become a Kabir Narayanan or a Ramesh Ubaidulla. Or u can get hacked 2 death if u raise a question such as "how did life start on earth" in some towns! Try speaking 2 a girl of a different religion in a collge campus and let's see how life treats u. Maoist will put tabs on socio-political expression, not on daily life as like present system
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@utubehayter ------------Their rules are whatever they decide.------------>That is EXACTLY what democracies do too! In 1989, we criminalized human consumable hemp- which was the most profitable cahs crop 4 farmers. Our govt illegalized it on orders from USA even w/o consulting w/ what our ppl thought about it!
Americans are against war in Iraq, but look at what US gov is doing! Expanding war 2 Libya. So it is the govt in ANY system that "sets the rules."
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@utubehayter -------------->Do u rself a favor and get a NEUTRAL view on NAxalites:
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xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@xxxdieselyyy2
I will.. if they come into power and 10 years from then on, if they are not imprisoning and killing people for fictitious PDS theft. I never claimed that democracies are good. THAT is your strawman.. all you. If you like you can go over all my comments and try to find one place where I defend it. It is you who needs to get a neutral view of things, not me.
And you are weird! You think its a big deal to talk to women of different religion on college campuses.. get a life?!
utubehayter 5 months ago
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@utubehayter ------------And you are weird! You think its a big deal to talk to women of different religion on college campuses.. get a life?!----------->HA ha ha......so defending cross religious people from dogs like:
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is not having a life? Damn u, that's how my college career got spent. Obviously, that means u have no clue about how parasitic religion is in India....so 1 that needs to KNOW ABOUT LIFE is u my friend.
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@utubehayter Capitalism sucks. Ever know what in the back of World Inflation ? Your filthy fed reserve. Money from nothing. Es lebe Kommnunismus.
galluer 3 months ago
@galluer
Right.. Fed reserve is capitalist. It is exactly what is called for by the Capitalist manifesto demand #5. Maybe, I got the wrong manifesto? Oh yeah.. Communist manifesto demand #5.
utubehayter 3 months ago
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@utubehayter U Austrian school or like extremist ? Well u for gold standard then. I for labour standard.
galluer 3 months ago
@galluer lmfao... the reason why Soviet crushed to earth is because its communism has lost to US's capitalism. And don't say China is communist because there's no equality in people's earnings. Maoists beliefs are fading fast.
giriisindahouse 3 months ago
independance state of Maoists....down with india
Ssshhhhhhhhh1 6 months ago
Long live the Naxalites!
CommunistWarrior1917 6 months ago
I love it...this will happend if India support in Balochitan traitor.......If pakistan break in three pieces....believe me India will bread in 10 ten pieces....Insahallah....FUCK INDIA AND I SELUTE TO MAOIST FIGHTERS..........HAHHAHA
junaidak11 7 months ago
@junaidak11 ------------>U are so stupid man. I am sorry but if u r a Paki, u BETTER be hoping Maoists don't come to power, because the FIRST thing they do when they come 2 power in India is shove a 500 feet rod up u r collective asses, which is long overdue.
Maoist govt won't take orders from Pak protector aka US. Maoists don't want a separate country like Kashmir separatist- they want to change the way India is run and make us unified, secular and strong!
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
pakis will be fucked if maoists come to power because maoists will not take orders from pakistan's western protectors such as the US and the UK
ThinkingGuy100 7 months ago
Long Live Maoist & Naxalite freedom fighters fuck evil & illegal state india
ISIcyberAGENT 7 months ago
@ISIcyberAGENT dumbass. Maoists are not fighting against india. They are fighting against the government system. India will only become stronger even if maoists come to power. So keep dreaming loser.
ThinkingGuy100 7 months ago
Does anybody know Mao killed more ppl than Hitler? So that makes you guys worse than neo-nazi's doesn't it???
dekippiesip 7 months ago
@dekippiesip --------->Jesus H. Christ man......Maoists are not called "Maoists" because they worship Mao. Any Socialist revolutionary who belive revolution starts on the coutryside and spreads to the city's later are called Maoists. Leninists and Marxists believed Socialist revolution starts in cities first and spreads 2 countryside.
Want 2 know who NAxalites celebrate? Not Chairman Mao! !!!!
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xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
Good work Naxalites & Maoist ur freedom is near
ISIcyberAGENT 7 months ago
1:39 they did "not realize the development hasnt reached the poorest areas", what a load of bullshit. People dont fucking rise up and pledge their entire lives and families for a rebellion without being painted into the corner. the richest 1% 'did not realize' they were massacring people? that they pushed hundreds of thousands of farmers to the brink of suicide due to microloans? that they were fucking building $1 billion dollar personal houses for their oligarchs? fucking bullshit
mistarcraw 8 months ago
@mistarcraw at least you know, people belive these bullshit news, the capitalist oligarchs commit a subtl genocide throughout the world, whether direct or indirect, then when the bottom rises up they become the bad guys, FTW,
kaleo183rd 7 months ago
@kaleo183rd yep, but I have faith in the strength of the most abused, and in the universal idea of liberation.
mistarcraw 7 months ago
@mistarcraw As do I, but its has to be worked for, and will probably voilent. I do not advocate violence, but we were conquered with violence, and while today it is not the only way of their domination of the masses, they still have and will use violence to coerce us.
the Putting down of peacful protests, makes violent revolution inevitable
kaleo183rd 7 months ago
@kaleo183rd yea i agree, i think its right on point what zizek calls 'divine violence', the righteous outbursts of violent justice by the most trampled-upon people, you not only see this in India, but in very many places, in Haiti, and food riots in Brazil. these are 'divine' in the sense of them seemingly 'coming out of nowhere', from an ethical demand the people carry out, a 'vision' of justice by the people, scandalizing the current ideology.
but yes, we must work, our times are exceptional
mistarcraw 7 months ago
Burn the fucking indian flag, kill javan turn india in to comunist state. this india bufflow will never give any thing to any one.
IndiaCobra 9 months ago
fuck you ultra nationalist brainwashed idiots! Look out of your windows and your cocooned lives and see who our naxall brothers are fighting for.........open yout eyes and see that just becaus india is a democracy dosent meen that all people are free!
nkaditya 10 months ago
i think naxalites dont want to hurt citizens. world needs to support them
cuteamyn 1 year ago
@cuteamyn
No they do everything to destroy india
Coptic78 10 months ago
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bring down the corrupt india state.
corrupt polotical party including all major polotical party biggest beast of all congress.
corrupt india media more intrested in showing calaberity than explotaiton of adiwasis and lower classes.
indian business community example mr ambani built the 1 billion dollar home from were he can see down on slums of india.
judicary that cannot deliver justice.
bring down bring down indian corrupt repressive state.
lal salam.
visi365 1 year ago
bring down the corrupt india state.
corrupt polotical party including all major polotical party biggest beast of all congress.
corrupt india media more intrested in showing calaberity than explotaiton of adiwasis and lower classes.
indian business community example mr ambani built the 1 billion dollar home from were he can see down on slums of india.
judicary that cannot deliver justice.
bring down bring down indian corrupt repressive state.
lal salam.
visi365 1 year ago
@visi365 Fuck yourself bitch, I love India the way it is and I don't want any change. Bastard harami. India is great as a democracy so fuck off with your naxalite bullshit I hope they all die. Anyone trying to divide India must be killed you mofo.
IndianBhagwan1 1 year ago
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@IndianBhagwan1 You don't even understand what the Naxalites are fighting for, don't come into arguments if you have nothing to back up your cause.
dzgfdg 10 months ago
@IndianBhagwan1 you are oblivious to the oppression other face in india ignorant
kaleo183rd 7 months ago
@kaleo183rd If you don't like India the way it is, then fuck off to Pakistan or some other shit country but India will not be divided so keep dreaming.
IndianBhagwan1 7 months ago
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@IndianBhagwan1 "If you don't like India the way it is, then fuck off to Pakistan or some other shit country but India will not be divided so keep dreaming."
lol
oh don't worry, when the People of india unite they'll kick you out to America or whatever plummeting Empire that feeds off humanity, and of course it'll only be a matter of time until the rest of the world stands up too.
mistarcraw 7 months ago
@IndianBhagwan1 ------------I love India the way it is and I don't want any change. ---------------->Then at this rate we'll be meeting up w/ Sub Saharan Africa by 2020! As it is, our multidimensional poverty index compares areas lik Chattisgarh, Uttar Pradesh, Bihar to areas like Sierra fuckin Leone! Even Delhi has an MPI comparable only 2 Vietnam!
I want a STRONG, POWERFUL, SECULAR India that is not ruled and kept divided religion and caste. Who can bring this? NAXALITE GOVT! Get u r facts!
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@xxxdieselyyy2 Under naxalites, we may be strong, but not by that much. And wtf, you want to give up freedom just for a little more power, why? We don't want India to be under a command economy either, because then we will be another target for NATO as they don't like commies. There is a lot of freedom as I have observed when visiting India very recently. Just keep it the way it is, a change in government can be very costly and could weaken India. We don't want Pakistan taking advantage of that.
IndianBhagwan1 5 months ago
@IndianBhagwan1 -------------->So you r afraid that India will be attacked by NATO? I say bring 'em on! That will make our international reputation go up in resource rich African countries, and will b willing 2 deal w/ us bilaterally. If we had a Naxalite govt, we wouldn't have had Pakistan by now!!!
I don't know what "freedom" u r talking about? U will lose political expressionist freedom but will gain a LOT more secular daily life freedoms!
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@IndianBhagwan1 --------2---------->Under a Naxalite govt, there will be a ban on not calling Koteshwar Rao or CPI as sons of diseased sheeps etc., but then if I ,as a Muslim dude want 2 hold hands w/ a Hindu girl and walk into a bar and enjoy a beer, I wouldn't be hounded by a myraid of right wing fucknuts.
The CPI Mao's economic agenda resembles more of Janos Kadar's HUngary than it does Mao Tse Tsung's China. What has NATO done 4 India? NOTHING! So I say fuck 'em!
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@visi365 -------------corrupt india media more intrested in showing calaberity than explotaiton of adiwasis and lower classes.----------->You are aware that journalists who travel to Naxalite areas risk getting shot at and killed BY THE STATE GOVT right? Not many journos would b willing 2 take that risk in current situation sadly except for select fw. And lal salams 2 u 2!
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
Join the MAOIST_REVOLUTION yahoo group list. Go to yahoo! and search for MAOIST_REVOLUTION
Direct news and reports from the peoples wars and revolutions in Nepal, India, Peru, Philipines and around the world!
It's big, thousands of members!
tiocfaidh28 1 year ago
@tiocfaidh28
World is 6 billion people now. No doubt there's thousands of morons. Luckily, it is still a permil.
Tomalo111 1 year ago
we dont need to eat we dont cloths we dont need we dont need job we dont need money.. we need just bullets to kill bloody indians we need weapons for freedom... Fuck india fick ghandi fuck Teranga Fuck wandaymatram.. fuck each and every thing of india..
ursgr8leader 1 year ago
I don't know why fiscal conservatives like milton friedman think leaving the economy will solve poverty problem. India is a counter example of friedman's argument.
neonaction 1 year ago
@neonaction I am puzzled by the fact that India (a capitalist state) has a Gini coefficient smaller than China (supposed to be socialist)
radurambo 1 year ago
@radurambo china is capitalist but It is not a democracy so things get done quicker in the government. power is highly centralized
neonaction 1 year ago
@radurambo also If I am not mistaken India turned capitalist economic system later than China who reformed in the 70s
neonaction 1 year ago
@neonaction What do you mean? Wasn't India always capitalist?
radurambo 1 year ago
@radurambo
No, India was and still is Socialist. They have simply opened up some areas for foreign business is to be operated. Sort of like China has, but not as wide open as China. China is far richer and far more productive than India, despite people on both sides being incredibly hardworking. India's govt is the biggest enemy of Indian people (but you can say that about every govt outthere).
Maoists are lying when they claim that India is capitalist.. but its propaganda, lying is necessary.
utubehayter 5 months ago
@utubehayter ---------------No, India was and still is Socialist------------->Yeah, right. Then why is our MPI compared to that of Sierra Leone for areas like Uttar Pradesh and Bihar? MPI, or multidimensional povrty index has WORSENED ever since Narasimha Rao signed that dreaded paper in 1991. India is also rated the 5th most liberalized economy in the world. We had our BEST MPI under Indra Gandhi. SOcialism in India died w/ Indra Gandhi and got buried under Narasimha Rao.
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@xxxdieselyyy2
What does MPI have to do with Socialism?
Check out the descriptions of all political parties in India. Try to find a party that does not adhere to socialism. To call India capitalist can only be true in the very narrow and communist sense that "all non-communist countries are capitalists". Heck, even that tiny barrier is falling apart given China and its region of influence.
utubehayter 5 months ago
@utubehayter ------------What does MPI have to do with Socialism?------------>The fact that MPI has worsened off considerably compared 2 Indra Gandhi times esp more so after 1991 coupled w/. phenominal GDP growth rates is a telling tale and rock solid confirmation we have embraced income inequality. If gdp is growing but mpi is getting crappier, that means u've become capitalist. We have more billionares than China yet 80 pc of India's pop earns less than 2 USD a day! That's capitalism 4 u!
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@xxxdieselyyy2
If there is a glass of almost pure poison, you add a few drops of water to it. Would you say that the water is poisoned or the poison is watered down? If a few prisoners are allowed to visit outside the prison temporarily, that means a few people are freer than before, true. But, it does not mean that the prison does not exist anymore or that it is no longer a prison.
And yes India is a prison.
utubehayter 5 months ago
@utubehayter --------------And yes India is a prison.---------->Exactly. Our country needs these guys to bail us out of this prison we locked ourselves into. AS far as social development goes, we were on the right track till Indra Gandhi era at least, after that it just became 1 giant cesspool.
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@xxxdieselyyy2
Bad idea.. These people (Maoists) simply want a even more horrible prison. If you think there exists socialist development.. then you are not living in reality. India went bankrupt in 1978, i.e. socialist bluff of development was caught. This is why the socialist leader named Indira Gandhi flopped around to find scapegoat. After a bankrupt India was forced (due to bankrupty) to free some Indian people up, only then the living standard of people improved.
utubehayter 5 months ago
@utubehayter -------------->I dunno bro, I lived as a commoner in Socialist India. People say all kinds of crap about it, but life was pretty comfortable and MUCH less anal. It was good man! How do u know these Maoists want a "horrible prison?" FIRST thing on their agenda is the SECULARIZATION of the land, which would mean doing a culture revolution against THEOCRATS and ETHNO NATIONALISTS who run India 2 day by keeping her divided. Secularization is the FIRST step towards our real liberation.
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@xxxdieselyyy2
It was pretty comfortable, if you had a govt job. Otherwise you were starving and barely having any choice. Understand that this was a time, when motorcycles were unheard of beyond Rajdoot and Yezdi. Scooters had a year and a half of waiting period. Decent TV and radio sets had to be smuggled into the country against laws. Famines were a very common occurrence with needing foreign grain to feed the starving. If you call that development.. then you got it pretty upside down
utubehayter 5 months ago
@utubehayter ---------It was pretty comfortable, if you had a govt job. Otherwise you were starving and barely having any choice.----------->I didn't have a govt job! We were working as shopkeeps. Yezdi bikes....hmmm Jaffa 250cc! Those were solid machines, still have mine 2 this day. Who needs radio or TV 2 be happy? U could just smoke a joint w/ u r comrades and not worry about the law going anal on u! Inspite of farmers, our MPI was still superior to today's!
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@utubehayter --------2---------->We know about poverty and famine in Indra Gandhi era because the govt was trying to solve it actively. Nowadays the govt doesn't even recognize the plight of farmers as legitimate! We were investing heavily on capital goods, not consumer goods, which would explain the yezdi and rajdoot. Famines happened for sure, sanctions don't help much. But still, mass farmer suicides were unheard of then. The situation for farmers was HARD but not DESPERATE.
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@xxxdieselyyy2
"The situation for farmers was HARD but not DESPERATE"
Not true. But this is what they forget to tell you. The plight of farmers.. is caused by socialist policies and I expect it to get much worse. Unfortunately the Maoists will take advantage of the retarded socialist leftist policies of Indian govt and ruin the lives of Indians even more. And people generally thinking that Maoists will do "something" right will find out the hard way, that there is a price for believing lies
utubehayter 5 months ago
@utubehayter -----------The plight of farmers.. is caused by socialist policies and I expect it to get much worse.------------>Not at all, then why did thy hav a superior MPI in Indra Gandhi rule? Why were there no mass farmer suicides in Indra Gandhi rule? We had 10 bucks then but we shared 5 w/ farmers. Now we have 1000 bucks but we don't even want 2 share 50 paisa w/ them! If Indian govt was leftist 2 day, Maoists would've been easily crushed, instead they're growing stronger dan ever b4!
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@utubehayter -------------And people generally thinking that Maoists will do "something" right will find out the hard way, that there is a price for believing lies----------->Again, their agro policy is in lieu more w/ Janos Kadar, not Mao Tse Tsung! They ackowledge the GLF (Great Leap Forward) by Mao as a failure. They are already implementing their agro policies in areas they control and ppl r quite happy w/ them- u don't see them rushing 2 CRPF areas whenever they come!
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@xxxdieselyyy2
As for Maoists, if they had a decent idea, they would not need to use a gun to sell it. FYI, Maoists have no illusions, they already believe that power flows from the barrel of a gun and they are inclined on having the biggest one.
Read at the "brilliant accomplishments" of Mao in China.. (millions starved for being anti-and millions killed) and you will realize that as much as Hindu, Muslim and Indian nationalists are a problem, the Maoists are much worse.
utubehayter 5 months ago
@utubehayter -----------As for Maoists, if they had a decent idea, they would not need to use a gun to sell it.------------->Look at Anna Hazare, people love him, his idea is good! But has it solved anything? None. To successfully bring forth a revolution u need to overthrow th existing regime. The violence u see is the result of DECADES of neglect and outright subjugation of Tribals. Naxal influene grows steadily since 1991.
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@xxxdieselyyy2
Anna Hazare, with all due kindness to this old man, is another one of those delusional people who think that you can pass laws and somehow make things better. Its not going to work, because democracy itself is a bad idea. This does not however mean that Maoism is a better idea either. The only reason no one is rushing armed forces in china is because of superior firepower and willingness of the state to brutally crush anyone daring to criticize it, let alone disagree with it.
utubehayter 5 months ago
@utubehayter ---------->We keep critiquing China, but compared to "democratic USA" how many wars has China startd in the last decade? I am glad u acknowledge party politik is a bad idea. But u say Maoism is a bad idea. Then what's a good idea? Anarchy? Right wing theocratic govt?
ALL states brutally suppress dissent if threatened. If I felt my existance as a man was being threatened, I'd go Stalingrad on the attacker. That's human behavior, not limited 2 Communists.
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@utubehayter -------------If you think there exists socialist development.. then you are not living in reality. India went bankrupt in 1978-------------->That was because she had no mechanism 2 deal w/ PDS theft!!!! Still tho, we are MUCH more broke than how we were in 78- all the national wealth is in Swiss banks!
"If you think there exists socialist development"----------->USSR and Warsaw Pact? Compare them w/ present....and Russia b4 USSR and all other SSRs were agrarian! How about Cuba?
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@xxxdieselyyy2
Yeah.. look at Cuba. Seriously, take the time to go and live there. I think the best anti-dote to the delusion of socialism is to live in it. Again, go live there for a few years and please take all your friends with you. Just make sure you don't "disappear". I have seen how desperate Cuban people are in wanting to escape Cuba and come to the capitalist hellhole of the United states. I will take their word over yours.
utubehayter 5 months ago
@utubehayter -----take the time to go and live there. ----->Been there, done that. But not for a few years only 1. Life ain't easy for a local, but it's MUCH better parcel than what u get in capitalist post 90s India. HDI in Cuba is .83. HDI in "liberalized" India is .50. Cuba is FAR superior to most Latin American countries in terms of HDI! I would DIE for the quality of education especially! The healthcare is top notch even if facilities r bare. In capitalist India u play arsenic or antibiotic
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@utubehayter -------2---------->Not having a major trading partner (USSR) and being faced w/ US sanctions, Cuban Socialism still notched up .80+ HDI! That is superior to almost all other countries out there! Consumerist luxuries is a very poor barometer of measuring development.
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@utubehayter -----2--------->Personally speaking tho, one personal thing which REALLY attracts me towards these guys is that if they come 2 power, they will form Red Guards from college students, arm them and unleash thm on the RELIGIOUS MORAL POLICE. When that happens I'm gonna re-enroll in college just to have a shot at these parasites
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@xxxdieselyyy2
They are and always have unleashed them on everyone not on their side. You want the moral police gone, okay. But you are next on their list, only this time, you will have no cover, no protection and no right to oppose them. Quick shot in the head will resolve all moral disagreements.
utubehayter 5 months ago
@utubehayter ----------no protection and no right to oppose them. Quick shot in the head will resolve all moral disagreements.----------->I can imagine I wouldn't have the freedom to call Koteshwara Rao or whoever's in charge a goat, but still, at least stuff like heterosexuality or talking 2 a member of opposite gender, or intermarrying a diff religion, getting high etc won't be looked upon as a social taboo!
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@utubehayter -----------2---------->Disinvestments of public sector in the hands of a few white collar bandits. Worsening of public sector infrastructure (Especially the PHC's). Thes are jus 2 examples of us embracing capitalism, I can point more cases if ya want.
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
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@utubehayter -----------2---------->Disinvestments of public sector in the hands of a few white collar bandits. Worsening of public sector infrastructure (Especially the PHC's). Thes are jus 2 examples of us embracing capitalism, I can point more cases if ya want.
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
Very true in democracy , people can have Chidambaram and nitish can have different opinions , but you cant deal with Maoist with violence instead govt should do a sustained social/economic development in bihar to curb Mao wadis , otherwise this Maoist and Naxal disease can spread and intensify like a plague
kallanyadav 1 year ago
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@aftabo3 war with in india India is afailure state :O its nuclear asest are going to fall in terrorist hand :O ooh my god some body denuclearize india ooh noo some body stop it ooh gay hind
All these were posted by a fuckin pakistani who makes their living by sucking americans COCK
ksihkar 1 year ago
New leadership has to take on the corruption; otherwise, india's finished.
FromBoomTown 1 year ago
THey kill indians because of atrocites by indian gov over them, they have the right to protest and force gov to give them their rights, now hindus shudnt cry if its rising into a strong rebellion and has spread into 11 states (which is more than half of the india) then they say pakistan is creating all this, mumbai attacks were also done by these ppl or their splinter groups, bt india tries to hide so as to keep truth from being exposed to the world!!!!!!
Fukkindians 1 year ago
@Fukkindians mumbai attack has true fact that the attack was planned in pakistan. the guys who carried it out were paki. what do u mean hindus shuldnt cry? hindus are the only people in the india? muslims shudntt dry because we kill terrorists in kashmir.
chakdemumbai234 1 year ago
@Fukkindians ------------>Dude, FUCK IN A. India is not a "Hindu only" country. In Maoists, u have equal representation of Hindus, Muslims and every religious group u can find. The leader of the Maoists is called "Comrade Ganapathy"- that's pretty Hindu sounding to me :D
The Maoist rebellion is a sign that people in India are slowly thinking beyond religion and are demanding real accountability from he govt. In Pakistan, u guys still masturbate to da Talibans who r fucking u in the arse.
xxxdieselyyy 1 year ago
@xxxdieselyyy: you already do wash ur faces with cow pee.... n now are talkn like shit, hahaha son the world will see you all act like shit, lying on grounds when killed by your maoist rebels themselves n still they'l be crying like what the hell Pakistan did to them, which for real is just an excuse to hide the killers of humanity growing up in your own fkn backyard to kick ur asses, RECENTLY THE UN HEAD HAS TAKEN NOTICE OF IT, UR PM says greatest threat is maoist rebellion to their country
MoizMasood 1 year ago
@MoizMasood ------------>U have eaten WAY too many cock meat sandwiches buddy. Maoists are against capitalism you stupid ignorant fuck, not against the Indian people.
Pakistan is just a fuckholistan tho. Maoists are comprised of the poorest of poor who r rising up against the govt w/o asking help from foreign countries.
Your Pak is a fuckhole- getting buttraped by your own buddies ala Taliban :P These guys are our poor ppl rising against capitalism. That shows they know der rights....
xxxdieselyyy 1 year ago
@xxxdieselyyy well i can see some hatred in your words..... try to be realistic shiThE@d lol :P well the word out there is almost every day 6policemen and 10 civilians are killed on average in some part of india by rebellions.... this count does'nt contain the statistics of innocent people killed by your forces that in turn look forward to these rebels for revenge of their blood....
MoizMasood 1 year ago
@MoizMasood -----------well the word out there is almost every day 6policemen and 10 civilians are killed on average in some part of india by rebellions.---------->Are you stupid? Maoists don't target civilians, but civilians get killed in crossfire, like when govt makes SPO's (Special Police Officers) share same bus, etc., w/ civilians. BUt Maoists don't seek civilians to kill.
CRPF conduct is very poor, I kno dat foo.
xxxdieselyyy 1 year ago
@MoizMasood ----------well i can see some hatred in your words..... try to be realistic shiThE@d lol :P---------->I'm not angry it's just like tryin to teach a donkey how to speak :P To be frank, if we have a Naxalite government in India, Pakistan won't be able to get all these "get out of jail free" cards like u have been getting every time u got u r ass kicked by us.
U kno...Naxalites would prolly come after YOU PAKIS after they form a govt in Delhi. And they'll get da job done.
xxxdieselyyy 1 year ago
@xxxdieselyyy well yeah really its hard to teach a donkey to teach.... i guess i cant really teach u out since animals have traits that are never to be changed... :P
hahaha but after india controls u, so infact u guyz can kill whoever u want if naxalites are in your country ruling... nice work dude... u also support fukn killers... u shud be dead from this planet already, thinking of killing ppl, its ppl like u ruining the peace of the earth just because of utter motives..
MoizMasood 1 year ago
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@MoizMasood ------------but after india controls u, so infact u guyz can kill whoever u want if naxalites are in your country ruling... nice work dude... u also support fukn killers------------>As if the Pakistani Army fights with super soakers and ring-o-ring-o-roses in Balochistan :)
I don't "support" killing of ppl, but I oppose capitalism in my country. Why is that so hard 4 u to grasp? Because.....it's just like tryin to teach a donkey how to speak :P
xxxdieselyyy 1 year ago
@MoizMasood ----------RECENTLY THE UN HEAD HAS TAKEN NOTICE OF IT, UR PM says greatest threat is maoist rebellion to their country--------->Oh oh OH! The PM is obviously saying that because u can negotiate with ppl who want territory. We negotiated w/ Geelani and many separatists. U can't negotiate w/ ppl who want to overthrow the system itself you fool. The Maoists don't settle for anything other than overthrowing capitalism. Kashmiri separatist just want territory.
xxxdieselyyy 1 year ago
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@MoizMasood -------------real is just an excuse to hide the killers of humanity growing up in your own fkn backyard to kick ur asses----------->The killers of humanity are your Taliban butt buddies and the ISI- u set Afghanistan back 1000 years in development. good job on that!
xxxdieselyyy 1 year ago
@MoizMasood ----------n now are talkn like shit, hahaha son the world will see you all act like shit, lying on grounds when killed by your maoist rebels themselves ---------->Let them kill me, I don't give a fuck. At least future Indians can live in a SOcialist secular society rather than a religiously r ethnically divided 1. Yeah, India is divided big time, but at least our poor people are trying to fix that.
U guys still sucking Taliban cock while they ram u in the arse. PATHETICistan.
xxxdieselyyy 1 year ago
@xxxdieselyyy if and only if the rebellions going on in 22 states of your country doesnt expand to your capital haha yeah i c how poor people are fixing the situation by picking up arms against government, nice observation yeah lol i think soon your ass will get fucked by them when they do a mumbai style attack in one of the urban areas.... lol
MoizMasood 1 year ago
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xxxdieselyyy 1 year ago
@MoizMasood -------------do a mumbai style attack in one of the urban areas----------->That's the difference between a Communist and a religious fanatic. Viet Cong's were guerillas. But they never did a "Mumbai style attack" in South Vietnam. They did Tet Offensive but they aimed only against the GOVERNMENT and against CAPITALIST FORCES u inbred.
Ppl who target civilians nakedly like Mumbai are taliban fanatical ISI paid cowards, not Communist rebels. Did the Viet Cong target civilians? No!
xxxdieselyyy 1 year ago
@MoizMasood -------------i think soon your ass will get fucked by them when they do a mumbai style attack in one of the urban areas----------->Dude CPI Maoists are not gay lmao like u r Talibutts.
They are in FULL CONTROL of the area over Ranchi yet they didn't even hold that city hostage for ONE DAY. They are not against India u moron, only against capitalism in India. Is that so hard 2 understand?!
As long as u don't contribute to exploitation of Tribals, u should be OK.
xxxdieselyyy 1 year ago
@Fukkindians ----------mumbai attacks were also done by these ppl or their splinter groups------->Uhhhhhh no, even Ajmal Kassab's daddy admitted the terrorist and his group hailed from Faridkot, Pakistan and were paid money to carry out the acts.
xxxdieselyyy 1 year ago
war with in india India is afailure state :O its nuclear asest are going to fall in terrorist hand :O ooh my god some body denuclearize india ooh noo some body stop it ooh gay hind
aftabo3 1 year ago
@aftabo3 ---------->Nukes are safer w/ commies than they are with theocratic right wing fucknuts.
xxxdieselyyy 1 year ago
indian's history shows that india has overcome somany storm in past so maoism is another storm and india will overcome this as well..
indian goverment is asking these people to leave violation and come to discussion
but these people are stick to their principle of violence so be it now...
MrSeriousFun 1 year ago
@MrSeriousFun --------------indian goverment is asking these people to leave violation and come to discussion------------>Asking for negotiations after killing off u r chief CIVILIAN negotiator (Azad) doesn't inspire much confidence on the system. And throwing journalists in jail for simply TALKING TO Naxal's doesn't show that the govt is interested in a long pronged out dialogue either.
xxxdieselyyy 1 year ago
Hahahha! ISI fucks Hindustan in the deadliest fashion.
TheSolitaryRex 1 year ago
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@TheSolitaryRex ------------Hahahha! ISI fucks Hindustan in the deadliest fashion.---------->Fuck the ISI. These are our own people, demanding thier rights from a corrupted government. That shows the poorest of poor Indians are starting to demand real accountability from the State!
When are u guys gonna have a people's movement in Pakistan?! Don't associate filth like ISI (International Sluts Institute) with a PEOPLES MOVEMENT.
xxxdieselyyy 1 year ago
India is infested with corrupt politicians who took protection money or extortion money, but do NOTHING for the villagers.
India will collapse. New Independent Naxalite State will rise up soon.
AzerChristians 1 year ago 6
@AzerChristians Looking at your profile shows what kind of fuckin' psycho your are !!! .... Lord Knows whats your objective ..
sohil486 1 year ago
@sohil486 You r wrong,Lord doesn't really care about me.Lord cares about how corrupted India has become & how tribal people r being robbed from the Central government.
Here is what will happen: Naxalites take over Central, East and Southern India and claim independence by 2012.
Cashmir will fight off India and Punjabis to push out Indians and Cashmir will also claim independence. Sikhs becomes independent too.
China gets Arunachal Pradesh, West Bengal becomes independent.
India no more.ENJOY.
AzerChristians 1 year ago 8
@AzerChristians -----------Here is what will happen: Naxalites take over Central, East and Southern India and claim independence by 2012.---------->Naxalites are not territorial. Naxals, unless I'm mistaken r aiming 4 Delhi and their manifesto (u could read it b4 they were outlawed by govt) was UNIFYING SOUTH ASIA.
Naxals are against capitalism in India dude, not against India itself. I'd like to see how Pak can do their bullshit w/a Naxalite government n India.
xxxdieselyyy 1 year ago
@xxxdieselyyy Sure, I love the idea of Maoists UNIFYING SOUTH ASIA. I would even encourage them take over Pakistan, Sri Lanka, West Banal & unify Nepal too. Wouldn't you love THAT ? An even BIGGER Indian Empire !!
I'm against Capitalism too, but even more, I am against CASTE and Elitism and theocracy.
Go get Pakistan, Maoists ! .......after throwing out Delhi in 2012.
AzerChristians 1 year ago
@AzerChristians ------------Wouldn't you love THAT ? An even BIGGER Indian Empire !!--------->I would for sure, but I don't think we're going 2 b an Empire- we'll just help other countries emancipate themselfs from colonization like good ol USSR :)
Caste , elitism and theocracy are 3 cancers why we are still so underdeveloped. And the present trend since 1947 of pissing on patriots and ppl who worked hard 4 India to benefit nation looting scum need to stop, really!
xxxdieselyyy 1 year ago
@xxxdieselyyy --------2--------->We gave up our whole personal possessions both when Cha-Cha asked and when Indra asked. Many others fled like rats to Europe. But today, ppl who stood back 4 India are being forced to endure gruelling 4-10 hour daily powercut whereas the MNC and the "NRI" residential complex right next door doesn't even get voltage fluctuation!
I dunno I have lost all faith in this "democratic" hogwash- just a cover up for elitist politiks. I am hopeful 4 a change!
xxxdieselyyy 1 year ago
@xxxdieselyyy -------3----------->Right now I can betcha NATO is just laughing their asses off at how we South Asians beg them for weapons to kill off one another.
xxxdieselyyy 1 year ago
@xxxdieselyyy I concur with ALL things u said so far. Wow, that's refreshing from an Indian, if u indeed r.
Remember the history of ur hated neighbor, China, who were ravaged by 10 foreign powers led by Brits & Japs & French for over 200 years ?? These foreign powers robbed nearly all the gold & silver to build THEIR military to go back for MORE and colonized China like wolves! That lasted OVER 100 YEARS! Now, these abusers all fear the repercussions from their crimes.
Maoism for India 2012 !
AzerChristians 1 year ago
@AzerChristians ------------>Thanks for your kind words :) I am a "Chinese spy" class of Indians (mainstream label #83497289347298) :P "Betrayer of India", "Chinese traitor", "back stabber of the motherland" - damn it's like an award ceremony gone wrong.
You are 300000000 percent correct about China! And they came out of colonial yoke, and creatd a China 4 Chinese, whereas India still has to make that change. That' the ONLY hope we have, though I dunno if it'll happen in 2k12.
xxxdieselyyy 1 year ago
@AzerChristians --------------->MAoists have repeatedly refused to partition South Asia further. Charu Majumder was DEAD against further partitioning of SOuth Asia. Maoists also draw their ideological base from martyrs like Shaheed Bhagat Singh. Please type "QUEST FOR NEW INDIA" on youtube.
The Maoists are there 2 unify us and make us a powerful country. Then we can shove a dynamite stick up NATO's ass in SOuth Asia.
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@AzerChristians --------->SOUTH India? Tamil Nadu is going to be the numero uno problem state in case we get a Naxalite govt in place.
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@xxxdieselyyy2 not sure if we will have problems with Tamils because Tamils really need stability now to grow, so maybe Tamils can also uphold socialism as Naxalites do and Maoists in Nepal rather than being just one ethnic culture based political movement. If Tamils is as socialist as maoists, I don't see any problems as both maoists & tamils don't want New Delhi's meddling and oppression and corruption.....
AzerChristians 5 months ago
@AzerChristians ----------->That's the problem sir! The most fiercest opposition 2 Socialism often came from Tamil Nadu. There is too much ethno nationalism and Kamaraaj style moral policing there. Tamil Nadu is actually quite content w/ the setup it has w/ Delhi! There is fierce support for Communism in Kerala, Karnatak, Andhra ,and almost all other states, but in Tamil Nadu, it is a hard ballgame. That state is not gonna have it easy we get a CPI Mao Govt.
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
@xxxdieselyyy2 Tamil Nadu won't amount to much, as they are in very shaky ground as Sri Lankan & Naxalites would sandwich them to wipe them out as in Sri Lanka..Maoists support equal right for all, for women and no CASTE to segregate people due to heritage, religion,gender etc. When a CPI Mao govt is established, we might see the big economic boom as in Sri Lanka, especially with socialist China's help to rebuild, while New Delhi will crumble by their corruption, and colonial-styled abuses.
AzerChristians 5 months ago
@AzerChristians ----------->Economic boom? Not likely, at least for 20-30 years. The 20-30 yr period will consist of social re-engineering which will cost a shaft and a leg economically. But AFTER that phase, you will xperience boom. Post Mao / Hua Guafeng China is SOcialist????? I agree w/ u on Naxalite policies, but they don't want India 2 crumble, they want it 2 become stronger and r convinced our current group of capitalist NATO concubines aren't doing it 4 us.
xxxdieselyyy2 5 months ago
To those of you who think that naxals are good, all i can say is that their people who kill innocent, poor people in the name of fighting for the poor. Their a bunch of hypocritical organized assholes bent on trying to take over India. That isnt goona happen.
Watch them be crushed.
dudhala21 1 year ago
@dudhala21
Dear I think the Salwa Judum supported by the govt. killing innocent people & Now there is operation green hunt. Salwa Judum not only kill the people but also rape the women & kill children s also. The Indian Democracy is for the people living in Cities not for who lives in forest. search the you tube you will get all the evidence. There no body who will help the poor Adivasi. Only because corporates want their Land for mining. Shame on this democracy .
vishwashantiforall 1 year ago
@vishwashantiforall I understand your point, that the Indian government is not doing enough, but if you give them time they will. Remember we already have enough conflicts, and we need us all to be one, only then will we ever solve our conflicts of intrest. And we should not mine in places sacred to the tribal people.
And if you give the government enough time, they will improve things.
Violence isnt the answer. maoist kill innocent poor people themselfves, they dont fight for them.
dudhala21 1 year ago
@dudhala21 Dear no body support Maoist. But war is not the solution.
vishwashantiforall 1 year ago
India has a similar set up to Europe during the early days of Christianity : Unity between States based on Religion. But this is inherently flawed.
Like European "Kingdoms" and "Principalities", Indian states (originally separate kingdoms) have cultural and linguistical differences and these differences will eventually lead to creation of Sovereign Independent States, just like European Countries today.
BoyBangla 1 year ago
you know your government has to take every phone call from the pentagon like its your heavens call
Mystery0Warrior 1 year ago
you can always count on an indian to do our dirty work when we raped and looted them for centuries haha
Mystery0Warrior 1 year ago
haha indians, the pussiest race on the planet.
thats a good dog
Mystery0Warrior 1 year ago
@mallapottell dude do you think if the naxals try to infiltrate urban areas and government gonna take it easy?! no fuc*ing way!, they surely gonna use the army and blow them all to pieces and they won't even regret it and they are even think of using the army now but they won't use them unless its really necessary. why would they use army and choppers and jets to kill there own people but they won't stop if they become risk for indian economy or its civilians...
ChromeAgent 1 year ago