3rd for Men High Notes-Breaking Down Singing Styles Vocal Warmups--Voice Lessons and Tips

[Mjamcee009]

any post ther for bases??? hehe

[mtenor]

sorry but thats not a good demonstration of a classical production. Not one that i use or hear on the operatic stage anyway!This singer needs to stop belting through the passagio area and carefully work through it . Doesnt help thought that the teacher is allowing him to keep switching between different vocal production styles. For me there is only one way to produce the voice correctly and i dont see it here at all WHATEVER the "style"

[timwelch2]

@mtenor Haha! it is always the tenors that leave these comments. :-) First of all he is a student and is continually working to better his technique. Secondly he does have the ability to narrow through the passaggio in the classical style (which by the way one does NOT do in contemporary styles.) Thirdly there is NOT only one way to produce the voice correctly even in OPERA. Some of the greatest classical singers in the world have virtually opposite approaches to technique. NO ABSOLUTES BUDDY!

[mtenor]

@timwelch2 Thats your opinion which you are entitled to as am I .

[armansrsa]

thanks tim, you only explain what the vocal cords are doing in falsetto and not the others. could you explain that please?

[TheBgbrush]

when ever i sing higher notes i can only sing them in falsetto, but i would like for it to have a deeper fuller sound to it like the contemporary you showed. are there exercises that can help with this or what?

i have actually done it like once singing with the radio...but i have no clue how the heck i did it LOL. a video on this would be great

[stewardlie]

I'm a little discouraged after seeing that guy easily demonstrated between classical and contemporary..

[me3362473]

What is the second song at the beginning?

[Thomas11611]

I really need help with singing. I feel like with the proper training I could be a very good singer.

[Franeskol]

Hi timwelch2! One question, What is the name of the song of the minute 2:43? Thanks for the video and all other video!

[rrrr9783]

I use to sing really really really really!!!! high notes when i was aged 9-11 but when a get well i dont know how to call it i completely lost my high notes and now i sing like flat notes or something

[stanphoenix]

@rrrr9783

simple knowledge mate , u hit puberty now , your voice has cracked , and voice deepens after you hit puberty

[iamSmexx]

when it was 4 years ago, i really have high notes XD but now, i dunno =_=

[jarinsatterly]

im the kind of guy that sings songs by bands like Paramore or My Chemical Romance. Its hard for me to sing those, because of my voice. help?

[cullen237]

Im 12 and i used to have a very high pichted voice and my voice lowered a bit. how do i hit high notes? i can hit some notes, but others are difficult could u help me?

[jarinsatterly]

@cullen237 me too.

[ControlledByMusic]

ok, so, as a personal project i'm learning how to sing por ti volare and i need to hit higher notes, but my vowels arent the problem. the problem is i'm a bass who just recently got up to hit the notes for baritone. i really love this song and don't want to bring it down an octive... i can hit a low e easy, haha, but i NEED to hit those high notes! please someone help me, or refer me to some other youtube video's, i am so passionate about this song...

[timwelch2]

@ControlledByMusic You must be what you are! Sounds like your vocal folds are too big to be a tenor my friend. That was decided when you went through puberty. At puberty, the amount of testosterone you have in you body dictates how big your larynx will grow. Bigger voice box=lower voice. Nothing wrong with that! A Bass guitar can never be a ukulele no matter how hard it tries. Feel free to sing the song but you will need to find the key that is appropriate to your range.

[ControlledByMusic]

@timwelch2 aw, no fair haha. ah well. i usually eat something salty before i sing because i know that tightens up your vocal cords, and thats worked for me in the past to hit the higher notes but not the big ones. i guess ill just have to bring it down anyway haha. well thanks for the explanation!

[MrJellyman300]

@timwelch2 Um... I went from bass to tenor in three months, and my voice was deeper than it was when I was a bass....

[sjlove2bird]

@912mindchanger I'm pretty sure he's a vampire

[IamElijahDee]

2nd and third for me

[demoniclygreeny]

...dislike button

[Throatxwhores]

ah finally someone who knows what a falsetto is. searching on youtube and a lot of dumbfucks out there singing in their full voice thinking the higher you go is what falsetto is. im trying to learn to yodel, and had a hard time going from full voice to falsetto cause i had never used falsetto.. definitely harder to sing than in full voice..for me anyway...

[timwelch2]

@all! Hello, I am pleased to still see such discourse over this old video! High notes for the male voice are still a hot button topic. I have been so busy with my studio I have lost track of all the comments. This summer, I am working on some very thorough vocal web video tutorials that I am pleased to share with you all. If there are particular topics you would like me to address please comment or email me and I will consider the most popular.

[VistaManiac93]

i can't sing high notes! any other way to extend the limit of my highest notes? scream for a minute or eat some vitamins or something? no?

[tightpantsXD]

@VistaManiac93 just keep at it. you'll be able to go higher after youve been at it for a while.

and try to project a bit more air to soften it up while your still working on it.

[XxMonterreyRayadosxX]

when I try to sing high notes I sound like a fat lady -___-

[OuTRunner12]

so badasses...................not

[GarrettDavisHustle]

this is good but what one would be trey songz - cant be friends?

[giomartin3zmusic]

Dude that Guy Singing Is Freaking AWESOME!!!!!!!!

[TheSuperfatman]

quickest way is to cut your testicles off

[geromino2007]

I think your "falsetto" is what others call head voice. Actual falsetto is like a flip to more airy tone and one cannot smoothly go from chest to falsetto withouot the flip. Listen Sam Brown "stop" for a good example. Contemporary voice was a mix voice between chest and head.

[IIRobertll]

@geromino2007 what he did is falsetto. Head voice is still modal voice, and the distinction with chest is one of resonance; the change between them is one of degree, not of different vocal function. Properly trained head voice should sound like a brighter, higher chest voice. Sotto voce can give an *apparent* transition to falsetto, where the vocal chords have a slight gap. With fine control the whistling sound can be obtained, like blowing air over a bottle. Do it well and you get a solid note.

[tightpantsXD]

@IIRobertll whats sotto?? and how do you teach yourself to ge that nice switch between head and falsetto like a lot of pop singers do??? whenever i try it sounds too high.. any practice tips??

any advice is appreciated :)

[IIRobertll]

@tightpantsXD sotto voce means "soft voice". Basically, if you lighten up on the cords over your passagio, the crack diminishes/vanishes. You can train yourself to do this at louder volumes if you start soft. Focusing on resonance is huge for moving in and out of falsetto. say "ng" (middle of tongue touching roof of mouth) with an open jaw, and feel where the notes resonate as you go from chest to head. You want it to be nasal, but don't scrunch your face. Aim where the buzz is when you sing.

[samleigh15]

I want you to listen to the lead singer of boys like girls. And I want you to tell me if you think he has been trained or not. Cause I wanna be able to hit the notes he does.

[ZombieSushy]

Is it bad that i sing in Falsetto? 

[MrLittleEmilio]

Lol, that guy sang that high A like a boss.

[jigoku123456]

i'm a guy and i want to sing 'Raindrops will fall - tamya gray',

[StevenMovieMaker7]

WHY ARNT YOU SINGING METAL?!

[Tenorforte]

The male student singer is not good at all. Quite distracting to this instructional video.

[cCPolette93]

Hi! firstly sorry for my english

i get the open throat, but when i want go up to the 4 octave i can't sing with volume. yes, i can sing the tone but it hasn't volume. Would you explain more the passagio please?

and if i use the falsetto(or may be head voice) the volume is amazing! (when i want impress to friends i leave them deaf hehe) and sound like a soprano, in fact, i usually sing der holle rache and i can sing the fa6 (F6) with amazing volume too, is this normal?

Greetings and thanks!!

[Lollipop161501]

some guys have to cut their prick off to make them sound like that:(

[Ortizsensei]

can u better explain how to use the second (contemporary) method?

[weemeeto]

Hey im 14 and my voice is just out of control :( i use to be a really good singer and now im struggling to keep notes

is there any way to practice hiting the higher notes now that i have a much deeper voice?

[kiddrama55]

@weemeeto puberty just sucks the life out of you eh?

[07SURESHOT]

@weemeeto dude did he tell you? cause i'm 16 and i have the same problem

[DanceAshtonDance]

i sing falsetto, i wanna sing high from my chest. ://

[bskeete]

thank you!!!!  you have cleared up a lot of questions I had.

[oakim53]

yea it didnt rlly help me though,srry.

[comeraqu]

I could tell how the song is called that starts at 0:19 please?

[meadish]

@comeraqu The song is called 'Anthem' and it is from the musical 'Chess'.

[POLICExMAHN]

I could sing better than this but this is very good. :)

[Anthony4fuel]

Tim, I love your videos. As a worship leader, I struggle with having a "covered" tone. I believe this is what you define as an "open throat" sound which, as you may already know, doesn't sound very good with contemporary worship music.

Just one question though, can you explain how to: 1) Release vocal tension and 2) How to close the throat (using explanation, examples, anything!)? It'd be nice if you could email me, to bypass these idiots on here!

Thanks!

Anthony

anthony@4fuel.org

[amdnovello]

i hate the nasal voice you english-speaking people usually have

i guess it comes from the pronounciation of the letters

[SINGZACH]

hey how do you sing in head voice like for barbershop singers

[Roodsteam]

Who want to sing like that? we all wanna sing like Kurt or steven tyler

[clayton5150]

Sorry to bother you but this is an excellent video! I have been trying to develop my upper register and was wondering what kind of teacher would be good for learning legit voice. i would love to have a thick high register like the man in this video!

[highnote32]

Great video. I really enjoyed that. I can sing Classical/Opera/Bel Canto in the Countertenor range with my falsetto but I cannot sing in that genre without my falsetto. I sing Contempoary Soul and Gospel and I hit the high notes in that manner and format. I never tried to hit them operatically...I cannot anyway.

[drgnforce44ever]

hey can u answer my question?? (can i still sing high pitched if i got my tonsells surgetly removed?)

[XxcampingdudexX]

Thanks. I hate voice breaking.....

[Agomongo1235]

wat if i hav tonsils

[jamessimonhudson]

what song does he sing in for the contemporary songs. and he is an amazing singer

[chickanbone]

Great job :) helped me alot.

[roccoownzu2]

I really want to be able to sing Jared Leto from 30 Seconds to Mars, I can't get that high thing he does though, I mean I can bu I can't project very well, an also the sane problem with Brandon Saller from Atreyu

[Bluezaphire2402]

cute guy :)

[Dariuxzs]

Eb4 is not that high for me

i can easily go to F4, F#4

and aslo G4 when my voice is in good condition

but i really wanna hit notes like Ab4 (david cook hit Ab4 in always be my baby and time of my life)

i seldom hit Ab4 note and above

though i can belt above Ab4 using mixed voice

but it's not as powerful as chest

that's my problem

[NavyBaby101]

I hate my high notes anything above a A4 is horrible. Sounds good somedays, but never come when I want them to

[sephiroth87932]

i had a terrible habit of singing in falsetto during church choir because no one corected me only putting me in soprano, but now i can sing really high in falsetto and somewhat contemporary but i need to learn classical form, because i want to expand my singing "landscape" thanks for the video

[moomoocowgr]

I wana learn falsetto for doing the muse type of singing style

[rallymaniac92]

Hi, how can i get past my passagio, which is at Eb? i have a vocal range from E2 to Eb4

[TheDarkPrince28]

hey..i can do the 3 placements..hehe!

[massacre2875]

la donna e mobile...heck yes

[TheHallBobby]

I hate my falsetto. It is so weak it's almost as though I'm barely singing. I'm currently in rehearsals for my school's musical (The Wiz) and I hate one of my solos (Slide Some Oil to Me) because it has a Gb in it and I really sound awful on it. I try to remain relaxed and to think down when I'm holding it and all that other good stuff. I just would like to know more tips just to try to make it more bearable for the audience.

[Siaokia94]

how do u practice on contemporary placement of high notes? i kept trying but it doesnt really sound like its improving...

[tggold]

@Siaokia94 You learn classical placement first. Find your resonance first, belt into it later.

[mradaChris]

It would have been nice to hear an example of head voice. My high voices sounds like none of the above.

chris

[dbikeguy]

that billy guy is.. hes okay. i dont really like his tone but he has good technique.

[cbrown6660]

cutest voice teacher ever...

[plangentmusic]

There's obviously no reason to use falsetto if you can sing it in full voice. Passagio is simply corny sounding. Even contemporary opera singers are getting away from it.

And that guy singing sounds like the guy from Styx. That's not a good thing.

[metalfun111]

@plangentmusic dude the guy from styx is a good singer even if not everyone likes the way it sounds. And also, if you want to sing a softer high note as opposing to belting it out, falsetto can be used to create a different tone.

[paulkelvinong]

hi sir. i would like to ask for techniques in developing the falsetto voice. i am very comfortable in using my chest voice but cant seem to produce volume when i use falsetto...

[GoBogi]

I'm the complete opposite. I can sing really high in my head voice (i.e. falsetto, and I don't wanna have a semantics argument :P ), but my chest voice has like 1/3rd the notes it has. I can go down into my chest voice and I've actually gotten it to a point where I can switch between the two even in fast passages.

This is odd, cause I see no reason to sing in Chest Voice if I have 75% of the notes at the bottom of my head voice, and even MORE at the top in head voice. It's a bit of a bummr

[toadster749]

@GoBogi EXACTLY! I totally agree with you, and I am pretty much exactly the same way! My best notes are in my head voice (not to mention most of my range) and I've gotten to that point, too!

I'm glad there's finally someone who has summed it up, haha.

[thamelshow12]

HAHA =D when i fist heard it i said WOAH!!!!!!! LOL

[dontobeay]

soon as the video started i said thats amazing

[spartanballer09]

I really don't know which one my voice is....I'm sure you would though....help please?

[sponcer16]

is it bad to sing vigbrato in warm ups cuz doesn that change the pitch?

[dontobeay]

Well, i doesn't change the pitch that much. When your warming up, its kind of like waking up your voice, so no its not bad to use vibrato to warm up your voice, but i wouldn't, because its just not nessesary. made at the end of your warmup you could practice vibrato.

[SilverGloves01]

i think i gotta contemperary voice cuz i got that aaaang type voice when i try singing high

[hobo1975]

that is i agree with edmondo

[timwelch2]

Thank you for taking the time to post a comment hobo1975. I do very much think about the impact that these videos have. I have found it fascinating the varying "tones" of comments for these videos. If you would like to participate in the discourse about vocal production for different styles of singing then jump in! I'd love to help. Singing is not a cut and dry thing and i very much believe in free healthy production of sound...but there is more than one way to skin a cat. Cheers!

Tim

[seektheforce]

@timwelch2 uh the singer you using for your demonstrations sounds strained.

[a198919a]

@timwelch2 OMG none of this, i don't know where my voice belong is... hahah can you tell me?

[ideiao]

0:55are you sure about that?

Sembra strannissimo!

[leadoffeohippus]

You mentioned that in contemporary the intensity of the sound increases as you go higher. I agree, but I think it's actually even more apparent in the verisimo classical. How else would people be heard over the orchestra? I understand, though, that your main point was to show the difference in where the sound is coming from.

Nice video. :)

[luisreloaded18]

im #2 lol..

[campushawn]

break voice sucks. :(

[ARussell817]

Hello, Can you help me.. I can hit notes.. I sing primarily contemporary with this but I am singing wrong. Only because my throat tenses up eventually... after I sing for a while it just gets a little sore. Any tips on preventing?

[EdmondoTenore]

This is such bad advice that it's almost criminal - a so called 'singing teacher' that has no voice to speak let alone sing!

[timwelch2]

Yaaouch!

[hobo1975]

i agree totally!

you should really think wat impact your opinion has.

[emalag999]

@EdmondoTenore what do you mean??? he didn't say anything at all..

sorry man, but the video is crap!

[Arfat]

@EdmondoTenore He's a baritione, you idiot, usually people like YOU aren't impressed by any other male voices except for tenors, that's why he has his buddy demonstrate instead of himself.

[Anthony4fuel]

@EdmondoTenore He's not giving advice, silly.. He's simply explaining the differences between styles, and using examples. Geez, you think just because we don't know who you are, that automatically gives you the right to be rude? I don't think so. The least you could do is give a dignified response, like a true gentleman. :)

[ChengLehung]

hey when you sing in contemporary, isnt that belting?

[Scar2401]

ok i can tape my voice but since i dont know how to put it online, the only way i could give it to you would be for me to mail it.

[bernie23232323232323]

hey man when i sing high notes my voice starts to squeak is it because im 16 and not finished with puberty yet or will i always do that?

[GuillermoSmyser]

it's true in a lot of areas and true here:

practice makes perfect. The more you sing, the better you get as long as you aren't doing anything to hurt your voice consistently.

[Scar2401]

im male. sometimes i entertain my friends by singing Think of me from The Phantom of the Opera.

[timwelch2]

Ok, I definitely need to hear your voice now!

[Scar2401]

here's the thing, my high notes are not classical, contemporary or falsetto but more like soprano which some times agrees with me and other times doesnt how an i improve this? please help.

[timwelch2]

Are you male or female? I would be very interested in hearing what you are talking about. Make a recording and post it, so I can hear what it going on. As I told the person in the last post, I do offer Skype voice lessons if you want to try it out and work out some voice stuff. It is pretty amazing how well it works. Cheers!

[19735165]

i have a little problem with my voice which is that i can sing high notes without falsetto but my voice volume drops down a lot starting at around maybe F or F#, itss maybe because i have deep voice for a kid my age since i'm just 12 and my voice is a little more deeper than my dad's but i would really like to learn how to sing those notes and still keeping a good amount of volume

[timwelch2]

I would need to hear what you are talking about to better understand what you are talking about. Are you studying voice with anyone right now? If not, it would probably be a good idea. Try to find a good teacher in your area, and if you can't I do also teach voice lessons over the internet using Skype. Best of Luck!

[19735165]

Well i tried to expand my voice range so i can sing up maybe a D with my chest voice but my problem is the volume...i heard about mixed voice but looked everywhere for an excercice or something and i couldn't find anything...im a self-trained singer but im planning to go with a teacher so i could at least learn what i want...and thanks for the response

[ShineLikeFireflies]

wow where is his space???

[ageofhammerfall]

'Hello, i dont know if you know what Powermetal is, but i would really like to learn how to sing it, its mainly high notes but i dont know how to learn how to sing it...

[jowox]

great video but I miss info on the male head voice and how it exactly differs from the female voice (mix voice).

[timwelch2]

Great comment...and that is quite a topic. Perhaps I will do a video about that at some point. It wasn't applicable to the basic topic of stylistic diversity that I address in these videos. Believe it or not, male falsetto is very similar to female head voice in function. Mixing is that wonderful "grey area" where one can transition between gears and men can do it ,as well as women. Simply put, the coordination is the same for men and women although women are required to do it more frequently.

[jowox]

I´ll soon post a video with males singing in the 5th octave. some call it reinforced falsetto, i call it male head voice. To sing high melodys guys cannot do the classical placement or the belting placement, a head voice (not falsetto!)must be used.

[timwelch2]

Sure I'd love to hear it, I assume that it is similar to the placement that Ted Nealy uses singing in JCS or Gnarles Barkley uses on his high notes in the song Crazy? When I teach, I typically consider that sound to be a mix between a "contemporary male high note" and falsetto. Sort of like a falsetto with an edge. Let me know when you post your video. Cheers! Tim

[jowox]

well I´m not wholly sure about neeley, that high G is great though. The Barkley guy sounded a bit thin. Try Mike Matijevic! at watch?v=v7oz8Bt34qY, he sustains high F in the melody line of the chorus.

[BlakeJay]

AHH!!!! fuck no. not for me haha.

[koolkiller48]

looks a bit like leon jackson lol (the instructor)

[davidsonghello]

the guy doesn't have a voice of a opera singer.

[Rentintwo]

these three.. or mixed?

[metalmouth000]

What do you all think of my screaming and singing? I want some feed back. Be honest, its ok.

[uniqueattack]

too wide/spread

[flaze3]

Good video: I think you summed up the 'options' well. I think in terms of projection, however, passagio singing is best.

[AngelShadowsong]

Hi Tim,

how about the concept of your highnotes hiting technique...

do you count the headtone as the falsetto?

various teahers define the term diffently some define it as the same...

[timwelch2]

You are right, these things are defined differently by different teachers and there is no write or wrong. But I typically use "head voice" for the upper part of the female voice. Then there is the trick "gear" of the female voice that I call the whistle tone (Maria Carey etc.) I typically don't refer to the upper male voice as the headtone. I talk about singing the high note full voice(contemp or classical) or falsetto. The language teachers use is highly personalized, it must make sense 2 u.

[AngelShadowsong]

So do you mean to say

that the Head Voice of a female singer is equivalent to the "full voice" of the Male?

From the Various context that i have read and various diffirene in ideas,

Headtoneis a highgear in which the higher register is accesed,like that of a lipthrill when you go to the top of your pitch. it may sound similar to the falsetto due 2 the height of the pitch

but the difference is head has vibrato, falsehas non.

[AngelShadowsong]

conti

[AngelShadowsong]

Head has a natural ring, while false has minor and Head has a non airy quality in contrast to false that is so airy,

head voice is non tiring, false is

Others define your CLassical "gear" as a Legit Mixed, and your contemporary "gear" as belted Mixed register.

Id like to hear from you...

thanks

[SnowSunbather]

Different people do define certain terminology differently. Female falsetto does exist, but is rarely referred to as such. Whistle register in the male voice is also possible (e.g. Adam Lopez) though seldom used in music.

Vibrato with falsetto can also be achieved. Have you heard Vitas? He sings in a high countertenor range using what I believe to be a specialised falsetto technique - often with vibrato /watch?v=gXPqHqVGJqw (he does have testosterone - he can sing much lower too!)

[GoBogi]

Vibrato comes from proper breath control. Vibrato is usually harder to hear when you sing extremely high notes, but it's there. Baroque singers used a different breath control technique that allowed them to straighten the tone, since Vibrato was not proper (back then) and was only used as an ornament. Continuous vibrato in Opera didn't become common until the 20th century.

[SimonNeighten]

Thanks!! Useful information!! ^_^

My teacher is teaching only classical type of singing. Now I know that there are few types of singing high notes. I'll try the falsetto

[guitarockr]

he doesn't teach anything about warm ups techniques...

[timwelch2]

I actually have some warm-ups you can purchase off of my website, these videos are just to further explain the concepts I introduce in the warm up CDs.

[SimonNeighten]

LOL! All videos I've seen about singing are about warm ups... And almost are the same.

This was really teachful.

[BluefalconJAR]

Oh i get it you wanted to showcase your student's talents...tht makes sence good video though

[BluefalconJAR]

Why doesn't he sing the classical and contemporary? He only sing s falsetto

[timwelch2]

BluefalcomJAR i'm not sure of you question. I didn't demonstrate all of the other examples because I wanted to have a student do it instead of me doing a one man show. I just decided to do the falsetto after the fact.

[mtenor]

they should sound none of these ways as the singers voice hear is too nasal

[timwelch2]

Thanks guys for the comments! Mtenor check out singers like Alfredo Kraus and Fritz Wunderlich for classical singers with similar voices to Billy's. He is actually not too nasal, his voice is actually that bright and high. An opera singer for instance needs that much brightness in their sound to carry over the orchestra. In the contemporary demonstration he could have made it more gruff and "pulled the placement" back a bit, but some pop singers do sing that far forward, like Freddy Mercury.

[mtenor]

A voice can be forward and well placed but still maintain its beauty whilst still carrying over an orchestra.

The nose is of course a great resonator but if the voice is primarily resonating here the sound loses its natural beauty and sounds too bright . Kraus and Wunderlich yes have bright voices but sound nothing like this guy. The point is opera is a specialist style and musical singers CANNOT just make the transicion that easily

[timwelch2]

It is obviously a personal preference issue as far as beauty of voices go, and I of course am not saying Billy sounds like Kraus, (although his voice is that high and bright) Vocal placement can be an issue of taste also but Billy would probably work more as a character tenor in opera if he had pursued it. As far as making the transition between styles...thats my whole thing man! It is possible as I have students flip-flopping styles and working all the time (as well as myself and my wife.)

[mtenor]

fair enough comment.

But i guess we as singers are voices are more suited to different styles.

Forn example i am a prof opera singer but i would not make a great show singer.

[stevevandien]

The nose is not a resonator. Vocal science over the last 50-odd years has confirmed that fact (check out Vennard and Miller in particular).  You might feel sympathetic vibrations in the face and sinuses. Some good singers do; some don't. But the nose does not amplify the tone. Neither do the sinuses or face.

[mtenor]

every pore and part of the body is a natural resonator .

I have studied with the best singers and teachers over 35 years and they all agreed on this fact.

Ask Joan Sutherland Caballe Horne Domingo about the sinus and nasal resonators......i did which is why i wrote what i did