Blueprint - Who Do You Love ft. Slug & Illogic [2011 Adventures In Counter-Culture] BONUS SONG

[donya1995a]

ugh blueprint, slug and illogic....deadly trio <3 so good

[MrSeanlamkins]

@donya1995a definitely. 3 solid mc's right here.

[xxxvictor13]

@MrSeanlamkins My apologize man .

[REVAMPtheindustry]

shittt. this song is too much for me to fathom right now.. good upload

[platinumgurney]

ill shit. rhymesayers for life!

[tannerlee9000]

Grrrrrrrr.....this isn't on my copy of the cd? oh well guess i'll be on youtube more : j

[MrSeanlamkins]

@tannerlee9000 It's on the Deluxe version ;o

[Jazzguitar00]

Saying drugs and booze are bad isn't obvious to everyone. If you are going to trash a rapper for talking about it and putting it into perspective, you are really acting like you're too smart to hear it. If you get it, fine, this music isn't tailor made for you, it's for anyone that wants to listen.

[keithrose4227]

I dont consider blueprint an indie rapper. He raps about real shit, he come up from the streets, and he still has some hard shit, not like that emo rap crap

[SleepingGiants1]

@keithrose4227 So what youre saying is that you have to be from the streets to rap about real shit. Real shit is a state of mind, its all about pov, personal experiences. What may be real to you may not be what's real to someone else. What about Macklemore, Grieves, Atmosphere, anyone from rhymesayers trying to bring that conscious hip hop, speaking for others who normally wouldn't get an ear because people don't think that the shit they have to go through is real.

[SleepingGiants1]

@SleepingGiants1 I hope you know I'm not being argumentative, I'm just trying to give my point. I just don't like when people say that the only real spitters are from the streets. I feel what youre trying to play at, but take it from someone who's lived it from both walks of life, there's still real shit that happens on both sides. Trust me, just because you have a house over your head doesnt gaurantee that youll have food on the table

[GraydonRobb]

Just let go.

[jnbalmer448]

radd

[MyDormantSoul]

great. another indi rap song about drugs. apparently thats an excuse to think your smart.

[MrSeanlamkins]

@MyDormantSoul Not necessarily about drugs if you listen. Yes a drug dealer, but not themselves. Print, Slug, and Illogic are far beyond the that topic's simplicity. Slug was talking about a kid who had no where else to go to make money and ended up crawling back to his mom for support, but his mom didn't see him as a son anymore. Sad stuff but it's as close as it can get to a fucked up life story. Slug and Print shared stories of lives that have been ruined, followed by a lesson from Illogic.

[MyDormantSoul]

@MrSeanlamkins yeah I hear that, Im a huge slug fan ever since 06, and illogic is beyond deep. But I just get this feeling from alot of these newer, upcoming indi rappers. It almost becomes part of the agenda to make songs about how fucked up dugs are, how the media is manipulative, how war is bad, and other stuff like that. Indi rap is too self aware these days and it just annoys me is all.

[MrSeanlamkins]

@MyDormantSoul Yeah I feel you. If you've heard Blueprint's other albums, you can tell he went a complete opposite direction with this one, but hey, you can't hate someone for spreading the word of the negative impacts of drugs. Slug's interviews since lemons have mostly ended with him saying "Stay off the pills and booze". And with the media manipulation topics, you are dead on with that one, and slug ignored it completely in the family sign, pretty original. I'm going to start putting it up.

[arker263]

@MyDormantSoul Well, it's better than other hip hop that is really repetitive. Besides too self aware is like saying someone is doing too good for themselves. Doesn't make sense, if you're tired of good music then go listen to some crappy rapper that never has anything to say. Not being a dick just saying why complain when the good music just got here. And how could good vibes annoy you?

[MyDormantSoul]

@arker263 sorry but I look for the best of the best in music. I dont listen to mainstream rap for that very reason. Being too self aware IS a bad thing. It means you write not out of pure feeling, but as an attempt to address a certain niche, audience, or subject matter. Thus that means that you are exploring covered ground. Nothing too bad with that, I still love this album, but Im just saying, Slug did this 10 years ago and it was "mindblowing" Print does it now and its just "really good"

[arker263]

@MyDormantSoul He's not copying slug he has his own subjects, that doesn't mean they can't talk about things that are relatively the same it's not the same record different year! He says many new, different, and amazing things that slug, or other people that are this aware haven't said yet. Come on man, obviously not everyone is going to get the same message and understand it as well.

[MyDormantSoul]

@arker263 he's not copying slug, but hes touching on covered subject matter. Thats all. I dont hate, I dont even really mind now that I bought the album, its a great listen. But Ive just heard the subject matter before. Thats just a tagic fact of art, and it cant always be perfect.

[arker263]

@MyDormantSoul Exactly, then why complain? Just makes it seem like it bothers you. Come on nobody expected Print to be another Slug. And he's not. It reminds me of some douche that said "Grieves was a second rate Slug that belonged in a gay bar." And besides there is no such thing as perfect.

[MyDormantSoul]

@arker263 From an artistic standpoint, one i define through a "felt" knowledge not an intellectualized one, Slug WAS perfect. Print is not at that level, Slug's work since lemons hasnt been on that level. These indi rappers are too self aware that theyre being indi rappers. Slug didnt fully realize his fame during the lucy ford and godluves years, now hes the crown jewel of the growing rhymesayers record label. Still love these guys to death, but theyre just too aware of their own counterculture

[MrSeanlamkins]

@MyDormantSoul Slug felt he had to change his music. He doesn't like making the same album twice, not literally but albums that have the same attitude and ego. As much as we'd love him to go back the the lucy type of shit, he probably wont, but it's all about progression, he keeps the music fresh every album. Lemons was fantastic in my opinion, but I think people hear the beat for 10 seconds and bounce, not a good way to listen. Read about the rape at his concert, big factor in his change.

[MyDormantSoul]

@MrSeanlamkins Im not asking him to be the same as he was during lucy ford, that would be even worse. Its just where his inspiration and incentive now comes from that has an affect on his music style. WHat im describing is the incredible complexity of the artistic psychology. I cant even blame him for doing so, its impossible not to change when you become alot more known and self aware, I can only point it out and lament at the loss of a certain artistic purity.

[arker263]

@MyDormantSoul Well let me re-assure you that nobody's going to change things, only the people they're trying to get through to. Sounds like that's still you, but I digress trust me there is no such thing as perfect only opinions and they don't matter. Especially if the artist admits.

[MyDormantSoul]

@arker263 I guess u didnt get what I was saying, but its tough to explain. Think of it in 5 levels, SLug's early work, based on his style, persona, and subject matter, was a 5. Print is a 4, because he is coming to the party with his anti war, anti drug, anti culture persona ten years too late. Its good, but its not an original spark anymore, even slug now, has lost his original spark of hating his culture and being poor, is no longer as fresh, so hes also a 4. there r just some external limits

[Redboyjp]

@MyDormantSoul check dumbfounddead, intuition and verbs thier songs are about thier current lives. drugs are involved but only because the do it freely. dumb's song ''no strings attached'' is the shit.

tight song too though.

[arker263]

@MyDormantSoul It's all your opinion, besides it's never too late. Plenty of people still need to hear this,

[1414shellshock]

@MyDormantSoul

Man, no disrespect, but who are you to say what constitutes a good indie song? If all you get from these "simple songs about drugs" is the primary message, you need to listen a little deeper and realize that these stories hit home for many people. Personally, i'm sick of the mainstream acting like the worlds an amazing place, forgetting in the process that there are billions suffering. We all attach ourselves to songs differently...

[MyDormantSoul]

@1414shellshock I can have an opinion on indi music because I listen to alot of indi music. when ppl rap about the 3rd world, drug addiction, being poor, about how socially awkward they are, about how bad the mainstream is, about how the bush administration sucked, about new age spirituality, about how lame capitalism is, about how lame our culture is, about how bad violence is, about conspiracy theories, about their childhood, about how fucked in the head they r, these subjects become cliche...

[1414shellshock]

@MyDormantSoul

Would you rather listen to the same old bullshit? It only becomes cliche if you have a closed mind and dont listen to each message and take it for what they offer. No artist who talks about 9\11 is going to tell you the same story, so just listen. If you want some intense sophistication within lyrics, I recommend Sage Francis or B.Dolan. Again, no disrespect brother, I get what you mean , many talk about the same round of topics. But not the same way or with the same words.

[SleepingGiants1]

@MyDormantSoul well in that case almost everything is cliche. you can't just name all of those subjects and call them all cliche. this stuff is real, happens in people's lives, you can't get mad at them for expressing.

[MyDormantSoul]

@SleepingGiants1 Yes, yes I can. Things are great at one time and eventually become cliche. Im tired of hearing the same damn thing over again. There are tons of subjects and points of view in the world, i dont care how many people experience it. And im not "mad" at anyone, I just want to find the best of the best. Deal with it.

[SleepingGiants1]

@MyDormantSoul I mean if you experience something, wouldnt you want to write about or tell it the way you experience it, no matter how cliched it might seem. Straying from the truth, lessening the reality of what youre talking about, especially for an artist like this, goes against what artists like these believe in. Btw this is my opinion, and I'm going to share it with you, but there's no such thing s as the best. You can be the "best" to the majority of those who know you, but somewhere there

[SleepingGiants1]

@SleepingGiants1 is someone who works twice as hard as the best, has better material than the best, and has more talent than the best. This can be said for all walks of life. That's just my opinion though.

[DKATmusic]

@MyDormantSoul this is the problem with all forms of art in our day in age. With mass production everything gets brought down to the realm of cliche's so quickly. What topics would you prefer hearing about? Thats a rather exhausting list considering a large part of hip-hop is addressing relevant social issues and the world around us.

[JVA10R09]

@MyDormantSoul Print isn't a new, upcoming indi rapper. He's been around the underground for years.

[xxxvictor13]

@MrSeanlamkins slug said the kid turn to a tweek tharts a drug dipp s!@#$

[Travisalberger]

@MyDormantSoul its a story. Blueprint isnt new either. This track is raw. and as far as it goes when slug say stay off pills and the booze hes a hypocrite cause thats all that fool does is drink. not so much the pills no more. but these 3 are lyrical geniuses

[MrSeanlamkins]

@Travisalberger Slug does party a lot, on tour especially but he doesn't drink as much as his songs make it sound. He normally adds alcohol to his stories to add to his character's "drunken slum persona". He even said "If I drank as much as I've claimed in my songs and actually dated all of these girls, I would have an std and would be braindead by now" :p