No Time Like the Past 4/6

[MobHeataEnt]

Man talks of more colonizing lol 1:40

[mongoosesvd]

This is scary because there are some fools who still think like the Mr. Hanford character, he sounds like O'Reilly.

[OrodesIII]

Rod Serling wrote a wonderful speech and Dana Andrews delivered it perfectly. That scene should be required viewing in American schoolrooms today.

[Beck19781]

@OrodesIII And the sad thing is that despite this sensibility existing in the United States, Vietnam was just around the corner.

[ishoify]

FUCKU  INDIANS CAME HEAR FIRST

[ParagramTree]

He goes back to 1880 to live in a nice small town, but how does he manage to pay for his room and other things? Does he get a job there from which to get wages to pay for those things? If so how does he get a job there? Remember this is supposed to be 1880 he can't just sign on the dole and claim benefits as there is no social security back then only the work house.

[CrackerLance]

I was trying to enjoy this, but I have the gassy shits and keep needing to run off to the bathroom. I'll try again later. I know the planet awaits my critique of this episode.

[UncommonRecords]

It's important as well that Rod volunteered for WWII the moment he finished High School. He wanted to join at 17 before he finished but was persuaded by a teacher to get his education first. He wanted to fight the Nazis and was sent to the Pacific theater instead. This molded his world view. His writing comes from a point of knowledge.

[wedgeskywalker9]

Why is one of the top rated comments about 9/11? That isn't at all relevant

[hurmpfff]

what does not make sence is how his time machine moved him around the planet aswell as through time and how he managed to go back forward avoiding death twice

[guitarshredking]

@hurmpfff must have a big red button in his palm with ESCAPE written on it lol

[superturtle1969]

I like when he told her he wants to be inside, and she says " you can be inside"

[Snoofalah]

I wish I was as verbose and precise with my words as Driscoll.

[cpufightclub]

War sucks. How costly war is, how wasteful. We must have no more war. Ever.

[sooperklew]

Dont be absurd, the govt is certainly capable of carrying out 9/11 the one thing they would have 0% chance of doing is keeping it a secret.

[73849309378]

@sooperklew They have a lot more than "0% chance" of keeping it a secret. Watch "Debunking 9/11 Debunking - Let's get Empirical" Pt.2 and fast forward to about the 5:30 mark.

[REDTEAM22003]

5:20 <--- oh he is hitting that shit tonight

[youngfart40]

Its spooky how some of these scenes are still relevant today. Its like something out of the ....ummmm..... oh yeah the twilight zone !!!! lol

[05candyman]

the only savages are the europeans who fucking invaded!!!!!! the native are great people that created canada in spirit and will!

[johnnyrockerfella]

i want to come in... i wish i could come in... haha nice :P

[srgtibbs1]

Wow, these are hands down the best TZ monolgues ever written, so much passion and depth

[MagiMysteryTour]

This segment (4/6) contains the kind of socially relevant material which Serling created The Twilight Zone to present.

Mr. Hanford is a flagwaving genocidalist, advocating the extermination of the "American Indians" and the political and militarist domination of the world. If he were alive today he would think George Bush was the greatest president ever, the "New World Order" is exactly what he was suggesting in 1881.

[MagiMysteryTour]

Serling would be proud to see that Twilight Zone is capable of sparking relevant discussion of these issues 50 years later.

Those people incapable or unwilling to grasp the significance of this segment, need to dismiss any genuine discussion of it as "political psychobabble". They shouldn't really be watching Twilight Zone at all. They are the sort of people that Night Gallery (which Serling disliked greatly) was geared for, the people who just want to see gruesome gore for the shock value.

[jbar19]

@om4444 Dude, it's a twilight zone episode. This isnt the place for political psycho babble.... Buy some tinfoil.

[IIIL47v]

What a beautiful speech Paul made. It's so so true. If this world is free from those armchair war machine (they do the talking, and let others to do the dieing), it would be much more a beautiful place to live. For all of us. And God I love Rod Serling.

[TomerMMHA]

@daleastar Well, I guess both types of debate exist in all countries. In the US, even the demonized talk radio, you can find some respectful people. I think Prager, who is on the right, is wonderful. I think Springer (yes, Jerry Springer of all people) was pretty good, pretty respectful to the other side, but the TV show paid more than the radio show, and he had to pick one. Who would you recommend on the left that has a free podcast? Who is sane?

[TomerMMHA]

@daleastar And I thank you for the exact same thing. Although I suspect if we'll keep chatting we'll probably find that we agree with one another more than we disagree.

I've been attacked on youtube for being an evil neocon and for being a liberal, so I always welcome civil discourse, with arguments deeper than "shut up, zionist!"

[om4444]

Great scene and the speech is timeless. Even Dana Andrews would be shocked how "virile as the devil" this country is now.....murdering, lying invaders. Having spent hundreds of hours looking at it, I've come to the unfortunate conclusion that 9-11 was a govt. operation. Don't call me a conspiracy theorist, just look at it. That's what the media doesn't want you to do. They want us to believe their conspiracy theory and not question it. Sorry, but I still have a brain.

[proffromgview]

@om4444 You're a total nutjob, and Exhibit 1 on how poorly modern schools educate students. Yeah, you have a brain...about the size of a walnut.

[BelfastAtheist]

@om4444

Pfft...piss off and go put your tinfoil hat back on.

'Having spent hundreds of hours looking at it'

By 'it' you obviously aren't referring to the fact 9/11 comission. Which I am 110% sure you haven't read.

It's just coincidence that 27 Muslims with known Al-Qauda links perpretrated the attack is it? It's just coincidence that Al-Quada agents in Yemen claimed responsibility for the attack is it?

'Sorry, but I have a brain'

No, no you do not. You have just proven this you cunt.

[BelfastAtheist]

@om4444

By the way, wasting a few days watching intrinsically biased youtube videos does *not* count as empirical, provable evidence. The people who perpetrate these 9/11 theories, are (strangely) the ones selling books about the topic who get rich off of it. Their is no general condencus for the record, every crackpot has a different theory. People see what they want to see sunshine. Get back to the real world, because you cross over into insanity, it's almost impossible to get back.

[invincibleironman3]

@om4444 ....you would be correct and the speech of Dana Andrews at that dinner table should be required viewing....fantastic scene, well ahead of its time!

[Momentum139]

@om4444, I retract my last statement for in the same instance I've revealed that I too, myself, am a conceited and frequently obnoxious person.

[73849309378]

@om4444 And you use it well, contrary to belfastatheist! Dana Andrews speech was great. Too bad our so-called leaders don't show that kind of wisdom and sincerity these days.

[Paltum1]

@om4444

What are the facts? Not liking the president or the party he represents isn't enough. Face it Radical Muslims were behind the killing of the innocent in that building not the USA government. The Dems have you in their pockets and know you will believe that stupidity! And vote for any dem!

[CrowTR0bot]

@om4444 The same government that couldn't keep a lid on unauthorized phone taps when the people involved were just a handful?The same government that couldn't keep a lid on insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan. Wake up! It doesn't take a grandiose impossible-to-keep-secret plan to bring down two towers. Just 19 very determined and clever people who had too many grievances with the west and zero conscience.

[TomerMMHA]

@daleastar Well, there are more than 5 Muslims on the planet, last time I checked. I don't think that the little girls who were raped and murdered by Serbs had anything to do with Albenian terrorism (which was a genuine problem, I concede to that). I agree it's sad that some Albenian Muslims hate the US after all it has done for them, but I wouldn't lump every Albanian mother or child that was saved from genocide with every single Albenian terrorist (plus it wasn't Albenians on 9/11).

[TomerMMHA]

@daleastar He didn't bomb KOSOVO because of the Lewinsky thing. That was Sudan and another country (I always forget, darn it). Kosovo was later on.

[Jellogel]

What a SourPuss at 3:40

[tjttzcspplt]

@controversyking Do you honestly think people talked and thought that way. It reminds me of MASH. My military father hated that show, so, because of their left-wing views. It always comes out looking right on the television set, pal. Real life isn't nearly as simple and neat as all that.

[tjttzcspplt]

The writers of this show must have been hippies.

[backtublive]

gay guy : a violent ! man !!

[TomerMMHA]

I understand Driscoll's points when he talks to that banker.  The whole "chicken hawk" angle. But let's be fair here: Many of those who just want to turn their backs to wars and pain all over the world are also fighting their battles in dining room tables. Those who opposed the Kosovo war, opposed the Iraq war, opposed the US involvement against Hitler with his sickening camps. Many of those who support intervention do so from safety. Same goes for those who support isolationism.

[septip123]

3:20 - is it me or does this asshole sound like Elaine Bennis' boss J.P. Peterman.

[tjttzcspplt]

@septip123 Why do you call him an asshole?

[bigshottyshot]

the speech he gives is amazing in this - few television shows that can make me have cold chills when i think about what he says - all those people dying over there and for nothing - because of power struggles and hatred - what makes this scene even more movin is when he says "you wont live long enough to see im right" im tellin u he picked the right period of time to say that speech

[zeppzo4]

The Dinner scene of this episode is probably one of the best scenes of any televison show I've ever seen.

I love Paul's speech.

[SuperOmnicron]

Agree. At 3:42 should be standard speech at any Cheney appearance

[zeppzo4]

Yeah, exactly.

[KingofStarfox]

Totally!

[TomerMMHA]

Yes, knock the involvement in Korea like Paul does. Might as well say that Clinton was wrong saving the Muslims in Kosovo. Or that he was right not helping the Rwandan Tootsies. Yes, that's right, screw these interventionalists! Let's abandon these blacks and Muslimsand slant-eyed Koreans to themselves!  Anything else would be Cheney-like!

[Teflon65]

Scenes from this episode did what they were intended to do. They got people talking (or typing in this case), and thinking. This story is all allegory. The science behind it is secondary, I think.

[NotoTruth]

all the episodes are alleries,sciiecne fiction gave the writers the freedom to make their points.this one of my favs,cause driskel is like good battling evil,and even with a time machine he can't change bad things because they are timeless,like maybe he was already a part of those histories.also unrelated,but quantum leap straight ripped this episode off.

[invincibleironman3]

"

He fought in the Pacific in WWII and suffered from PTSD for the rest of his life. It was his experiences in the war that ledto him creating the show. "

1:13 and on.... "the complete undercard to the banking industry and the busines coup"

[philstoneiii]

how does he pay for things? where did he get old money?

[masterxdisasterx15]

"it fits, it fits very well" haha taboo!

[chretiendutroyes]

"Planter her deep"

Someone is sublimating sexual energy.

[masterxdisasterx15]

haha, thats exactly what i was thinking!! XD!

[Scotty7617]

Rod Serling, The Twilight Zone's creator, is definitely one who can criticize chickenhawks.

He fought in the Pacific in WWII and suffered from PTSD for the rest of his life. It was his experiences in the war that ledto him creating the show.

[scotters201]

I don't think one could live in peace who knows exactly every event that will happen in the future,It would be like knowing the date of one's own death.Sometimes ignorance is bliss.

[chett005]

one main resone why the us guvernment couldn't get involved in the war at first..was due to the banks lending and keeping nazie money..war is big business for giant corporations and just ask your prez,gwb what grandad was up too,back then?????????????

[Blink182plus44equ226]

You must be stupid.

[ClamLuvr]

2:25 The Indians did understand the content of the treaties. They just didn't understand the treachery behind the treaties until it was too late.

[revengeofcleveland]

Manifest Destiny was the belief that the United States was destined to expand from the Atlantic seaboard to the Pacific Ocean; it has also been used to advocate for or justify other territorial acquisitions. Advocates of Manifest Destiny believed that expansion was not only good, but that it was obvious ("manifest") and certain ("destiny"). Originally a political catch phrase of the 19th century, "Manifest Destiny" eventually became a standard historical term,

[ClamLuvr]

Umm, okay. Your comment on Manifest Destiny just confirmed exactly what I said. I just didn't take the time to write the full explanation like you did.

[revengeofcleveland]

no it confirms nothing you use the word treachey..i resent that..or no i dont resent it i find it however true irrelevant..the conquest of mainland north america by northern europeans was inevitable and correct..our culture was superior..a bunch of half naked savages living in tee pees when

european peasents like my family were starving

we needed the land more we took it..nothing to be ashamed of.

[ClamLuvr]

revengeofcleveland, Dude, why are you trying to pick a fight with me? I don't even have any idea who you are. I never met you before or did anything to you. Why are you being a total ASSHOLE and coming after me?

[revengeofcleveland]

my god are you paranoid...you accused europeans of being treacherous i assume your either some self hating white liberal or some angry minority type either way suck my balls i'm glad we tore up those treaties...northern europe is crowded cold damp and full of muslims

[ClamLuvr]

hey billy shithead I tried to send an email to you but I got an error message saying you only receive email from friends. Okay, three comments about that.

1. I'm sure you have no friends except your drunken rabid dog that you sexually molest three times a day.

2. I wouldn't be your friend if you were the last shithead on earth.

3. Obviously you don't receive email because you are too scared to let people talk to you directly.

[revengeofcleveland]

would you like to meet me? seriously i have steel plate in my head from a gunfight i was in

20 years ago..you come that close to death little firightens one.

[ClamLuvr]

Well, I'm not afraid of you at all if that is what you think. I was a POW in Iraq in 1991. So nothing much frightens me after that. But no, I don't want to meet you. I don't even want to talk to you here. I am just trying to defend myself. You are the one who attacked me and started this. I told you before I am not going to take any stupid shit from you without defending myself.

[revengeofcleveland]

okay you have ptsd i understand now..seriously sorry i apoogize..hope you get some treatment for it..i was um well i used to kinda work for the mob..google westies,and i got caught in a shoot out when i was a kid

i get weird sometimes affects my temper and my memory..so i kinda understand then

thanks for serving..sorry about the pow thing

i thought you were probably some bratty kid

you probably are but on the outisde slim chance your not lying i'll defer

peace

[revengeofcleveland]

This stressor may involve someone's actual death or a threat to the patient's or someone else's life, serious physical injury, or threat to physical and/or psychological integrity, to a degree that usual psychological defenses are incapable of coping.

[revengeofcleveland]

The Westies are a predominantly Irish American organized crime association operating from the Hell's Kitchen area of Manhattan's West Side in New York City. They were most influential from 1965 — 1986. During this time period, the NYPD Organized Crime Bureau, the FBI, and other organized

[revengeofcleveland]

Posttraumatic stress disorder[1][2] (PTSD) is an anxiety disorder that can develop after exposure to one or more terrifying events in which grave physical harm occurred or was threatened.[3] It is a severe and ongoing emotional reaction to an extreme psychological trauma.

[ClamLuvr]

revengeofcleveland, If you think you are going to scare me or intimidate me in any way, then you are quite mistaken. There is no chance of that happening. If you want to be a bully and search thru YouTube looking for some weak person to pick on, then you need to keep looking. You haven't found him yet.

[revengeofcleveland]

i think youve got a complex...how can you be bullied over the internet its not like i'm a drunken neighbor with a gun and refuse to turn down my stereo or stop my doberman from barking..lol pity my poor neighbors

NOW THEY ARE INTIMIDATED..nothng worse than an armed irish drunk with a rabid dog.

[revengeofcleveland]

you dont understand destiny