i went on a 2 weekend forum (pre-landmark forum...as soon as the negative press gets too much they change the name.but it's est). anyway....i can't believe it still exists.i consider these leaders...one in particular LON (no guy in a diner) are robot losers...but i GET IT.it's about the money...GET IT...GET it....hope (bad word)you figure it out before they take all yours.IF YOU ARE A WEAK PERSON...THIS IS THE PLACE FOR YOU...OR SCIENTOLOGY...if you are poor, don't worry...they don't want you.
I got a lot out of the Landmark experience....andI was open to it and ready, willing and able to accept a view of life that was different than the one I had. Those negative comments seem completely unrealistic to me and strange.
this course is up to you.but im warning you. this shit ruined my dad. look at the evidence befor you sign up. its a straight cult, and i guarantee they will delete this comment because of the fact they want to keep it hidden for the income. its up to you really, but have a look for videos or evidence befor you make a decision. i mean if there really trying to spread the love why are the courses 500$+ for 1 weekend? think about it guys.
I just wanna say i want land mark forms to work even sound good, but the more i hear N see the more it just ant working for me. I feel sorry for the one that believe in something thay don,t understand it enuff to sell a good thing.
landmark is a total scam, in the forum they will immediately go on to hard-sell the next course, and they will tell you that the 2nd course is where the real results are. and in the 2nd course they will tell you the 3rd course is the most powerful. and then by the 3rd/4th course they will have you convinced that only by working for them for free, cold calling people to do the forum, will change happen in your life. such BS
@croydonjohnny - People have the experience of getting out of a trap they didn't know was there, even without the Landmark Forum. A person gets out of a bad relationship, and suddenly find herself saying, "what was I thinking?". The difference with the technology offered by the Landmark Forum is that you develop the capacity to intentionally uncover the trap, and then create the breakthrough. You don't have to wait for a breakup, or for the stars to align. That's living life with power.
Great video, and so true - if everyone did the Landmark Forum this world would work. I have participated and it has made a lasting difference to the quality of my life - just awesome. Best decision I ever made
@MetalAaron I had an unfaithful wife and broken family, and seriously considered taking my own life because I didnt know how to handle what I was confronted with. Right now I am free and powerful and peaceful. In the Forum I received the tools that have me where I am now. Whatever you make that mean is whatever you make that mean. I adore this game, which is all about what is possible.
@MetalAaron I didnt let that be my next reason for living my life in the stands instead of creating something beyond what was already there for me. Do you expect it for free? Most people can scrap togther £345, even if it means not going out drinking with the boys for afew weekends.
@MetalAaron I spent £345-00 in January 2008. A year later I reviewed the Forum and the cost was £190-00. In February I chose to participate in The Advanced Course which cost me £450-00. The Forum is standalone and many people dont go on to particpate in further courses. I got completion during Forum in 1998, and this is what I was refferring to.
So you've spent £1000 on the forum. How does it make you feel to know that this corporation was kicked out of France and Sweden for breaking their labour laws, with practices that also done in their offices internationally? Their Landmark Assisting Program basically just acquires volunteers to run their company; graduates so enamoured with the corporation that they'll work for free. A corporation which doesn't even pay minimum wage? Dodgy, exploitative and manipulative.
@MetalAaron@MetalAaron You are taking what I am saying and doing something with it. The conversation here from the outset has been on the Forum - lets keep it distinct. I did not spend £1000 on the Forum. I spent £345-00 on the Forum in 1998 and this gave me the tools and completion.
"taking what I am saying and doing something with it" - yes, that's called a REPLY.
You just said you spent £345, £190 and then £450 on Landmark Education. That amounts to £985, nearly a grand. It's still relevant to the forum to mention Landmark's gross manipulation, and exploitation of 'assistants'.
You don't really have anything to respond to that, because if you did you'd just recognise how you are a sucker who has funded an exploitative corporation.
@MetalAaron You're still not hearing what I am saying.You listen through your view and make yourself subconscious to what doesnt fit and then you repeat what you say about what I said, in order to be right about it. If you authetically want to hear what I am saying, then listen to what I am saying. If all you want to be is right about your view, I am not interested in engaging in inauthentic manipulative conversation with you.
I've listened to what you're saying. You wanted to discuss the Forum alone and are only comfortable talking about that topic.
Now, I've asked you to respond to an allegation. You put £1000 into a dubious corporation that recruits unpaid volunteers in spite of have an annual revenue of scores of millions.
@MetalAaron I am comfortable talking about any topic. I am not allowing my words to be twisted and turned to fit you view. I will answer you question shortly as space is limited on each posting.
@MetalAaron "taking what I am saying and doing something with it" - yes, that's called a REPLY. - What I am saying is you are doing something with what I say, before you reply.
@MetalAaron We are discussing the Forum, and the cost. What I said is that I participated in the Forum in 1998 and it cost me £345-00 what I got from it is completion and tools to deal with what I was dealing with. Period. What I chose to do a year later is entirely distinct.
Good for you, so pleased. Now, respond to the fact that you have put nearly a grand into a corporation that flouts labour laws, got kicked out of two European countries and manipulates in order to exploit free labour.
@MetalAaron I have assisted on the Assisting Programme and I see it as a case of one hand washes the other. I assist and get to sit in on courses at no cost. The methodology I was trained for in assisting, is methodology I use in my own life - applying the distinctions to real life. I dont know about labour laws, I speak only from my experience.
That's a great business model. Run a course for little cost, charge hundreds and get the graduates to give their work for free. So not only huge profit but also free labour. Tenacious, those guys must be quids in.
@MetalAaron It is a great business model. And so what if they make money. The Forum Leaders give a lifetime commitment to this education and are away weeks at a time working very hard. They make a difference in peoples lives. Who cares if they make money, I dont. I have a new life and it has been worth every penny and more.
Firemen and police officers get a scholarship and do the Landmark Forum at no cost. Others pay. We live in a culture where money is a big deal and almost everything costs something. Landmark did not invent how we all are about $. Like it or not , it is the way we are, it is not great IMO. but if anyone has any other ideas I would love to hear them? What should be free and what should be paid for? I would like to see all medicine , housing and food be free .
My problem isn't that people pay loads for it, it's that the Landmark Education corp gets paid all this cash and yet still recruits volunteers. That's crazy, to not even pay these assistants a minimum wage. Sure, some companies offer short unpaid internships; but not CORPORATIONS. I've never heard of this exploitative business practice before committed by a corporation. Dodgy.
that is your problem of course, and I don't want to take that away from you, but I want to offer that skiiled educated well informed and already very busy people make a choice to assist and are ok with it. I am one of those people.It is not a problem for me. There is a reason Landmark hs one of the largest assisting programs in the world. The training is amazing .
Haha. And there's the scientology connection. Not in theology but in practice. They're a for-profit business and use free labour too, and guess how? Because they give their tuition for free to assistants.
You're not volunteering for a charity, you're volunteering for a corporation. You know, I LOVE big macs, they make me feel really good. But I'm not going to volunteer for McDonalds.
@MetalAaron Why is that" crazy"? I am frugal about my time & $ and I have no experience of being exploited whatsoever when I assist at LE nor do the people I know who assist . Perhaps you are projecting something onto others that does not really exist ?
@MetalAaron ~ That's bullshit and a huge misconception. I payed for my first Forum with an unemployment check. The success I've had since then came through utilizing the tools available through Landmark Education. You don't sign up for anything if U don't want to. You'll be encouraged to continue, & the experience is invaluable. It's all a personal choice. Most all of my management skills came through assisting @ Landmark. Don't knock it until you've thoroughly investigated it. Open minds rock!
A woman at a Landmark Forum seminar told the Forum leader that she had been molested when she was young and that she had never talked about it. He wrote it on the blackboard and applied the Landmark technology to it. He's not a trained therapist, he has no license, he's putting ideas in her head. He should have taken her aside and told her to seek out counseling. Instead he put drivel in her head in front of 100 people.
i went on a 2 weekend forum (pre-landmark forum...as soon as the negative press gets too much they change the name.but it's est). anyway....i can't believe it still exists.i consider these leaders...one in particular LON (no guy in a diner) are robot losers...but i GET IT.it's about the money...GET IT...GET it....hope (bad word)you figure it out before they take all yours.IF YOU ARE A WEAK PERSON...THIS IS THE PLACE FOR YOU...OR SCIENTOLOGY...if you are poor, don't worry...they don't want you.
farleygranger 1 day ago
I got a lot out of the Landmark experience....andI was open to it and ready, willing and able to accept a view of life that was different than the one I had. Those negative comments seem completely unrealistic to me and strange.
briggreene 1 month ago
this course is up to you.but im warning you. this shit ruined my dad. look at the evidence befor you sign up. its a straight cult, and i guarantee they will delete this comment because of the fact they want to keep it hidden for the income. its up to you really, but have a look for videos or evidence befor you make a decision. i mean if there really trying to spread the love why are the courses 500$+ for 1 weekend? think about it guys.
Hyproximity 5 months ago
insane cult members on the usual recruitment mission.SICK
thepacqster 11 months ago
I just wanna say i want land mark forms to work even sound good, but the more i hear N see the more it just ant working for me. I feel sorry for the one that believe in something thay don,t understand it enuff to sell a good thing.
JesusJack4x4 1 year ago
landmark is a total scam, in the forum they will immediately go on to hard-sell the next course, and they will tell you that the 2nd course is where the real results are. and in the 2nd course they will tell you the 3rd course is the most powerful. and then by the 3rd/4th course they will have you convinced that only by working for them for free, cold calling people to do the forum, will change happen in your life. such BS
kitten1g 1 year ago
@kitten1g if anything.... what is a "scam" is you spamming all landmark videos with the same robotic sour cut and paste.
fibeera 1 year ago
Can I please join Landmark Education and contribute to their $100 Million per annum profits?
Pleeeeaaaassssee.
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NortonPalamine 1 year ago 2
@croydonjohnny - People have the experience of getting out of a trap they didn't know was there, even without the Landmark Forum. A person gets out of a bad relationship, and suddenly find herself saying, "what was I thinking?". The difference with the technology offered by the Landmark Forum is that you develop the capacity to intentionally uncover the trap, and then create the breakthrough. You don't have to wait for a breakup, or for the stars to align. That's living life with power.
rayjoh99 1 year ago
so standingnothing, why do the course? how is it that we are all trapped and don't know it?
Croydonjohnny 1 year ago
If everybody became more aware of money grabbing cults this world would work.
steve hassan's website. google it
MetalAaron 1 year ago
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standinginnothing 2 years ago
Great video, and so true - if everyone did the Landmark Forum this world would work. I have participated and it has made a lasting difference to the quality of my life - just awesome. Best decision I ever made
thismagician 2 years ago
@thismagician oh dear.
MetalAaron 1 year ago
@MetalAaron I had an unfaithful wife and broken family, and seriously considered taking my own life because I didnt know how to handle what I was confronted with. Right now I am free and powerful and peaceful. In the Forum I received the tools that have me where I am now. Whatever you make that mean is whatever you make that mean. I adore this game, which is all about what is possible.
standinginnothing 1 year ago
@standinginnothing
all about what is possible, if you have hundreds, thousands of cash to spend.
MetalAaron 1 year ago
@MetalAaron I didnt let that be my next reason for living my life in the stands instead of creating something beyond what was already there for me. Do you expect it for free? Most people can scrap togther £345, even if it means not going out drinking with the boys for afew weekends.
standinginnothing 1 year ago
@standinginnothing
so £345 quid is the only amount you have previously spent and will ever spend in future on the Forum? That's it, no more money?
MetalAaron 1 year ago
@MetalAaron I spent £345-00 in January 2008. A year later I reviewed the Forum and the cost was £190-00. In February I chose to participate in The Advanced Course which cost me £450-00. The Forum is standalone and many people dont go on to particpate in further courses. I got completion during Forum in 1998, and this is what I was refferring to.
standinginnothing 1 year ago
@standinginnothing
So you've spent £1000 on the forum. How does it make you feel to know that this corporation was kicked out of France and Sweden for breaking their labour laws, with practices that also done in their offices internationally? Their Landmark Assisting Program basically just acquires volunteers to run their company; graduates so enamoured with the corporation that they'll work for free. A corporation which doesn't even pay minimum wage? Dodgy, exploitative and manipulative.
MetalAaron 1 year ago
@MetalAaron @MetalAaron You are taking what I am saying and doing something with it. The conversation here from the outset has been on the Forum - lets keep it distinct. I did not spend £1000 on the Forum. I spent £345-00 on the Forum in 1998 and this gave me the tools and completion.
standinginnothing 1 year ago
@standinginnothing
"taking what I am saying and doing something with it" - yes, that's called a REPLY.
You just said you spent £345, £190 and then £450 on Landmark Education. That amounts to £985, nearly a grand. It's still relevant to the forum to mention Landmark's gross manipulation, and exploitation of 'assistants'.
You don't really have anything to respond to that, because if you did you'd just recognise how you are a sucker who has funded an exploitative corporation.
MetalAaron 1 year ago
@MetalAaron You're still not hearing what I am saying.You listen through your view and make yourself subconscious to what doesnt fit and then you repeat what you say about what I said, in order to be right about it. If you authetically want to hear what I am saying, then listen to what I am saying. If all you want to be is right about your view, I am not interested in engaging in inauthentic manipulative conversation with you.
standinginnothing 1 year ago
@standinginnothing
I've listened to what you're saying. You wanted to discuss the Forum alone and are only comfortable talking about that topic.
Now, I've asked you to respond to an allegation. You put £1000 into a dubious corporation that recruits unpaid volunteers in spite of have an annual revenue of scores of millions.
MetalAaron 1 year ago
@MetalAaron I am comfortable talking about any topic. I am not allowing my words to be twisted and turned to fit you view. I will answer you question shortly as space is limited on each posting.
standinginnothing 1 year ago
@standinginnothing
I can't twist and turn your words. You speak your words as you wish. Awaiting your reply.
MetalAaron 1 year ago
@MetalAaron Has your question been answered? If not please ask what is still not complete for you.
standinginnothing 1 year ago
@MetalAaron "taking what I am saying and doing something with it" - yes, that's called a REPLY. - What I am saying is you are doing something with what I say, before you reply.
standinginnothing 1 year ago
@MetalAaron We are discussing the Forum, and the cost. What I said is that I participated in the Forum in 1998 and it cost me £345-00 what I got from it is completion and tools to deal with what I was dealing with. Period. What I chose to do a year later is entirely distinct.
standinginnothing 1 year ago
@standinginnothing
Good for you, so pleased. Now, respond to the fact that you have put nearly a grand into a corporation that flouts labour laws, got kicked out of two European countries and manipulates in order to exploit free labour.
MetalAaron 1 year ago
@MetalAaron I have assisted on the Assisting Programme and I see it as a case of one hand washes the other. I assist and get to sit in on courses at no cost. The methodology I was trained for in assisting, is methodology I use in my own life - applying the distinctions to real life. I dont know about labour laws, I speak only from my experience.
standinginnothing 1 year ago
@standinginnothing
That's a great business model. Run a course for little cost, charge hundreds and get the graduates to give their work for free. So not only huge profit but also free labour. Tenacious, those guys must be quids in.
MetalAaron 1 year ago
@MetalAaron It is a great business model. And so what if they make money. The Forum Leaders give a lifetime commitment to this education and are away weeks at a time working very hard. They make a difference in peoples lives. Who cares if they make money, I dont. I have a new life and it has been worth every penny and more.
standinginnothing 1 year ago
@MetalAaron
Firemen and police officers get a scholarship and do the Landmark Forum at no cost. Others pay. We live in a culture where money is a big deal and almost everything costs something. Landmark did not invent how we all are about $. Like it or not , it is the way we are, it is not great IMO. but if anyone has any other ideas I would love to hear them? What should be free and what should be paid for? I would like to see all medicine , housing and food be free .
youregow 1 year ago
@youregow
My problem isn't that people pay loads for it, it's that the Landmark Education corp gets paid all this cash and yet still recruits volunteers. That's crazy, to not even pay these assistants a minimum wage. Sure, some companies offer short unpaid internships; but not CORPORATIONS. I've never heard of this exploitative business practice before committed by a corporation. Dodgy.
MetalAaron 1 year ago
@MetalAaron
that is your problem of course, and I don't want to take that away from you, but I want to offer that skiiled educated well informed and already very busy people make a choice to assist and are ok with it. I am one of those people.It is not a problem for me. There is a reason Landmark hs one of the largest assisting programs in the world. The training is amazing .
Do you want to do The Landmark Forum Metal?
youregow 1 year ago
@youregow
Haha. And there's the scientology connection. Not in theology but in practice. They're a for-profit business and use free labour too, and guess how? Because they give their tuition for free to assistants.
You're not volunteering for a charity, you're volunteering for a corporation. You know, I LOVE big macs, they make me feel really good. But I'm not going to volunteer for McDonalds.
MetalAaron 1 year ago
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youregow 1 year ago
@MetalAaron Why is that" crazy"? I am frugal about my time & $ and I have no experience of being exploited whatsoever when I assist at LE nor do the people I know who assist . Perhaps you are projecting something onto others that does not really exist ?
youregow 1 year ago
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youregow 1 year ago
@MetalAaron ~ That's bullshit and a huge misconception. I payed for my first Forum with an unemployment check. The success I've had since then came through utilizing the tools available through Landmark Education. You don't sign up for anything if U don't want to. You'll be encouraged to continue, & the experience is invaluable. It's all a personal choice. Most all of my management skills came through assisting @ Landmark. Don't knock it until you've thoroughly investigated it. Open minds rock!
pleased9 8 months ago
Great video!!!
foodconsult 3 years ago
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A woman at a Landmark Forum seminar told the Forum leader that she had been molested when she was young and that she had never talked about it. He wrote it on the blackboard and applied the Landmark technology to it. He's not a trained therapist, he has no license, he's putting ideas in her head. He should have taken her aside and told her to seek out counseling. Instead he put drivel in her head in front of 100 people.
Poohuna 3 years ago
lol!
itsmadcyril 3 years ago