Un coeur en hiver (1992) Claude Sautet - passage

[tangoseven70]

To my mind, what Stephane says, in response to Camille's declaraction, may have several purposes: to dissuade Camille, to protect himself from proceeding with the relationship, to validate what he is doing, etc. I think it is a good case of so-called performative language, where he is both describing and doing (or not doing, rather!) something with his words. He is a complicated character. I've never seen another film that does as good a job with his "type."

[stob000]

This is one of the most gutwrenching films ever, one of the best films ever. Thanks for posting.

[Starnicle]

can someone help me plz I´d need the french lines from 1:57 til the end...

could someone write them down and give ´em to me...

that´d be really nice

thx in advance

[iomsioms]

l'amour est comme la fievre Gaelle il nait et s'eteint sans que la volonte y ait la moindre part....

je pense a toi

[iomsioms]

gaelle tu me manques....

fleur !

[gragrn]

He didn't love her? He turned her down?

WHAT AN IDIOT!

[stob000]

@gragrn He is messed up. Deeply. In no way does that excuse the behaviour, but sadly some people are like this in real life, and sadly people often just do things. Trust me, from personal experience, they suffer for it as well.

[grendelwok]

@stob000 Didn't you notice where he went after that scene? Didn't the title become clear after the final scene with his teacher and mentor?

In a land where "assisted suicide" is frowned upon by the press and prosecutors, maybe it's hard to imagine knowing that you would be called upon to perform that "service" for someone you love like a father.

To imagine what it would do to your emotions.

[stob000]

@grendelwok You are right.

[stob000]

@gragrn Of course he loved her, but I think not until it was much too late.

[gragrn]

@stob000 I know. I was joking. As if any man could turn down Emmanuelle Beart!

[stob000]

@gragrn Well even so you are right, he is an idiot. :-)

[stob000]

@gragrn There is also something else going on underneath for Stephane, difficult to explain really, but I think his speech to Camille is also something he is telling himself, that in some way he is trying to convince himself of. Why? Because he has been separate from the society of others all his life and he is turned this into a virtue in his own eyes - that he doesn't succumb to stupid entanglements based on false passions, that he is "Lean and Mean", and he is a superior person because of it.

[mionismarion]

One of the best movies about classical music and romance.

[RubyTuesday717]

One of the best movies, PERIOD.

[m2sbsahib]

awesome film - the best romantic film I've ever seen.

[kcolli02]

what is this song that she plays in the begining? How can I find it?? I love it... it's awkward and passionate and "completes the motion" when it stumbles... (RHCPeppers) I love it!

[zxcv03]

It's Ravel's "Sonate for violin and piano", 4th movement

[zxcv03]

Excuse me, of course I meant the 3rd one, because it only has 3 movements :)

[AphoticLighthouse]

It's interesting how in Manon des sources, Daniel played a character that was lovestruck by Emmanuelle's character, but then she rejected him (because of what his character, Ugolin, did to her father, Jean).

And now here he is, she wants him, but he's rejecting her, BURN.

[wuyiting]

Then you can see Une Femme Française, and no one rejects no one anymore, lol

[deano27671]

Emmanuelle has never looked so beautiful!! Why did she ruin her looks by having her lips widened!?

[rarecellos]

Emmanuelle needs a should massage after that tense playing.

[sanaslaby]

Violen present sadness for me, and it's a sad romantic story, Stephan has a frozen heart.