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  • Helms should have became president.

  • Too bad Helms' body and mind couldn't hold out for a bit longer. Seeing a Democrat in his senate seat and an Afircan-American in the White House would've been a great comeuppance for him!

  • elizabeth dole should find a better plastic surgeon. she looks hideous!

  • Maybe they're being ironic...?

  • good lord... good thing dole was defeated.

  • Liddy Dole should rot in hell for this. She is despicable.

  • Is Libby Dole John McCains twin sister? She is never in NCarolina anyway. Pack up your belongings Libby and get the heck outta NC!

  • Elizabath Dole seems out of touch. She seems to be pandering here. I hope that she is NOT reelected.

  • it wasn't hard at all when he died. I was damned glad to hear it. He was a homophobe and a bigot, terribly racist and regressive.

    Good riddance. Elizabeth Dole must be abusing her prescription drugs or something.

  • If Jesse was alive,he probably vote against the bill.

  • Hope Jesse is made to eat satan's testicles in hell and all other neocon trash that he started get infected with HIV.

  • This compares to an Airport being named after Ronald Reagan

    President Reagan fire hundreds of Air Traffic Controllers

  • yeah, it reminds me of the people who didn't do their job that led to 9-11 that should've been fired but gotten promotions instead.

  • I think Jesse was the inspiration for the white Boss characters in Tom Hanks movie Philadelphia. Tell me he doesn't look and sound like everyone of the bad guys from that film LOL.

  • Like what Christopher Hitchens said about Jerry Falwell, it's too bad there's not a hell for him to go to.

  • Ms. Dole was confused-- she thought the bill would support the SPREAD of AIDS.

    Quick, word association...

    Dole.... bananas.

  • I wonder if Satan makes Jesse wear a skirt and bra before he assfucks him with his flaming pitchfork?

    Anyone know?

  • one more asshole is dead

  • More re-writing of history.... remember how great a President Nixon was.....

  • Nixon was a BAD joke, but what's NOT so funny is that even HE is (now) beginning to look "good" (lol) in comparison to the pseudo "conservatives" (Reagan/Bush41/Bush43) that followed.

    Fear and DEBT

    DEBT and Fear

    Fear and DEBT

    I never dreamed I'd say THAT!

  • well it's a great idea if you want to spit on the legacy he would have wanted for himself.

  • Maybe she was being ironic?

    NAH!

  • The comment about her make-up--PRICELESS! Can't stop laughing. I completely and utterly disagree with and don't understand her logic. She's ridiculous!

  • I'd say this calls for something just a reprehensible in return.

    Fight fire with fire.

    Dig up Helms's body and throw his rotting stinking corpse at Elizabeth Dole's doorstep for a nice little morning surpise (Godfather Style).

    She'll get the fucking message. right quick too. fucking cunt.

  • pwg357 I believe u r right. I am tired of the left being nice. GET ME A SHOVEL! LMAO!

  • Let's name the AIDS bill after Jesse Helms. That will keep him turning in his grave and disturb his peaceful afterlife just the way he disturbed the peace of other people's lives while he was walking this earth.

  • PLEASE CHECK THE VIDEO i POSTED IN REPLY YOU BIGOT

  • dalejrfan800; you are 20. i am 50. i saw a lot of acquaintenceses die. many of them were in their 20's and 30's. quarantining them simply keeps you from seeing them. and the only way you could catch a.i.d.s. is if you have sex with them. it sounds like you come from the hills, where it's rumored that cousins who intermarry produce odd kids. reading stuff from you just proves their point.

  • 2002 Helms founded an organization that funds aids research and medical help for aids victims in Africa with Bono.

  • And still refused AIDS funding for his own country. They talk about the AIDS funding in Africa in the video. Doesn't change the damage he did for all the years prior. He was often a lousy human being.

  • You feel he is a lousy human being - OK. I feel Ted Kennedy got away with murder or at the least manslaughter. OK with you? Thanks

  • maybe they can name a drunk driving bill after teddy...lol. these guys are trying to equate being gay with aids. misinformed on their part. but these guys are so brainwashed left its not funny.

  • Jesse Helms is an American hero who did more for AIDS patients then the Young Turks ever did in there lives. Fun Fact: The Young Turks have absolutly no listening audience while Rush just singed a 400 Million Dollar contract, HA HA!

  • Jesse Helms a HERO? For anything, much less AIDS relief? You are really messed up in the head. People like you are destroying the very fabric and foundation of our country. Go fall on a knife.

  • Care to point out exactly what he did?

  • I'm not going to engage in a discussion with you. I will say this, however: America was founded on the notion that we are entitled to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Jesse Helms made a career of being a racist and a bigot, among other things. He thought it was just fine to deny American citizens basic civil liberties and protections under the law simply because of their race or sexual orientation. And don't accuse me of being a crazy liberal:I'm a Republican and a member of the DAR.

  • zoe1974 A REPUBLICAN who actually thinks & doesn't speak in Fox News talking points! THIS IS THE FOURTH video clip I have seen a right winger accuse a Republican of being a Liberal because they spoke facts! I hope this becomes a trend & the REAL Republicans see what these Fox News watching, walking talking points are all about. These people don't debate they attack. I am seeing that the left is FINALLY fighting back. Thanks to Bush/Rove this country is divided like never b4. UNITED WE STAND...

  • @zoe1974 The illegal enlightenment ritual of Jesse Helms a 33rd Degree Freemason shown that the 33rd degree secret is Tesla Earthquake No. 333 and was initiated with a predicted seismic event appearing divine at the time to an “idiot of the 33rd degree” -Mark Twain (Freemason)

  • If you think Helms is an American hero, than you are an American idiot.

  • Question - since you have a feeling about the qualifications for "American Hero" - how do you feel about George Soros?

  • Maybe they ought to honor Jesse Helms by naming and abortion clinic after him.

  • haha

  • Not a bad idea - after watching the Young Jerks - can we make abortion retro active? Nah, forget it their dozens of fans would have no one to listen to.

  • The only jerks I see posting on this video is you and that dalejrfan guy.Maybe you two dumb ignorant un-educated assclowns can form your own little clavern.

  • There is just no limit to the hypocrasy of the neocon, conservative bigoted agenda.

  • we think we're smart enough to live in a civil society... yet we allow things such as political correctness run it. A good example is ignorant rules, and regulations... like forcing a 90 year old woman to show her ID in order to purchase tobacco, or alcohol. WHY?! SHES FUCKING 90... yet... that is the rule... no matter how ignorant... and people let these rules exist... how is that smart in any way? wow... I wonder how fucking stupid the general public is going to be in 10 years...

  • Then again, no matter how ignorant, we also apparently allow you to exist. How is that smart in any way? Not at all really, but we have the integrity to allow you to spew your ignorant bullshit around, because you unfortunately have the right to.

  • The point of that is, that the person who follows that rule... although it makes absolutely no damn sense... is going to continue to do so... only the next time, it might be a loss of their personal liberties, but hey... thats the rule... they walk around with a fake smile... and they will do so... sometimes you just have to say... why the fuck would i do that?! fuck you? ya know? now, what's ignorant about what i said? isnt that fucking stupid? Isnt public education goin to hell?! right? huh?

  • Wow. Just wow. You're all in favor of personal liberties aren't you? I guess you think that's some sort of stupid right that Americans have?

    Ohhhh - I see by your other post. If you happen to be sick, the Constitution shouldn't apply to you.

    Bucko - if you can take your neighbor's freedom, yours isn't worth a shit.

  • send me your address and tel no plz.

  • ok... i dont really know what you said... but im going to assume that ya want my address and telephone number... why the fuck would i give you that? what did I say there that was wrong? there has to be fucking order, otherwise, we'll continue in this path... the path where AIDS is multiplying... right? unless you come up with a cure... and you have it right now? who says there will ever be a cure? not you... not me... so are we going to let that happen... what the fuck ever man...

  • I tire of confronting you cowardly bigots by typing. That's all. I've been hearing people like u talk shit all my life. You must no longer feel so safe to hurt others.

  • I think that all the assholes with aids just need to be taken away from the healthy public... along with people who carry other deadly diseases... seriously and when they tell me I SHOULD BE ABLE TO LIVE THE WAY I WANT... well jackass... no... you picked up aids... and now you're going to transfer it to my child, i dont fucking think so... grow some balls you politically correct liberal human rights activist... seriously... sometimes there has to be some balls...

  • well i hope you get infected with bird flu and no hospital admits you, your family throws you out and your stinking ass parishes by the side of a dumbster laden with maggots. How do you like that?

  • hey dipshit, i didnt say lets not treat these people, but they will continue to be infected. SO I SAID THAT THEY NEED TO BE ISOLATED... IN A WELL CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT! What is wrong with that... why is that evil? how? these assholes got infected, and they will continue to pack fudge, or sleep around... or bleed... so... CONTROL THE FUCKERS... thats it... yall are so caught up on the rights of these ignorant fuckers that you forget about safety... ignorant. i wont get infected, but someone will

  • If you are the epitome of moral behaviour, why are you worried about isolating people with hiv ? You aren't going to fuck anyone but your wife right? Or could it be that you fuck everything that moves and you are scared you just might catch hiv? And just what are your plans about isolation? Put them where and do what? In prison? COncentration camps? or just execute them? Cause there is no cure, right? And do you want to test everyone? What about window period for hiv testing? You are senseless.

  • AIDS was never a health crisis. It was ALWAYS a behavior crisis. Those who got it through blood transfusions and such, were infected by the perverts having sodomy. It was NEVER dealt with as a health crisis even though they were passing a death sentence others.

  • republicans are modern-day pharisees.

  • Dole considers herself Helms' heir, she's as phoney as only a Republican can be, and she is trying to keep the redneck vote, which is enough to win in NC unfortunately. That is why the only thing that she's been running on is her anti-immigration stances, that's all she's got.

  • for real is this a joke?

  • That man was a disgusting prick.

  • didn't feel bad...I danced a jig!!!!

    ..when Helms died.

  • Maybe she knows something we don't. Lol.

  • "The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism,' they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened."

    - Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948

  • "You can't always get what you want. But if you try sometimes, you get what you need."

    -Mick Jagger, Rolling Stones band member

    That was fun - your turn.

  • Next on Dole's list, the "Adolf Hitler Jewish Center of North Carolina."

  • elizabeth dole naming an a.i.d.s. bill after jesse helms, a blatant homophobe,is about as gross and obscene as naming the holocaust museum in washington,d.c. after hitler!

  • If she'd wanted to name the Bill after Reagan, even Cenk would not have blinked an eye. Helms wasn't just a Republican bigot, he was a blatantly mean, nasty SOB who made no bones about who he wanted to oppress.

    ...In a way, he probably did less harm for being honest about it.

  • Maybe it's Irony.

  • You know, all of this comes not from any sex act, but from eating bush meat of primates who carried the HIV virus, but not in a strain that hurt them. Once a person ate the bush meat (meat of primates for those who do not know), which is 99% like cannibalism, btw, they injested a virus that in the human system became lethal.

    Bush meat. That has a few connotations, but the idea is that we do not engage in cannibalism for good reasons.

  • I'm not even sure it's about "bush meat". Seems to me if you're hunting and trapping with primitive weapons, you've got a pretty good chance of being scratched and bitten by pissed-off animals, which is a perfectly good way of transmitting a virus.

  • Helms has a gay granddaughter.

  • She was only following orders. Heh.

  • The whitewashing of the Helms legacy begins. Maybe they'll name some civil rights legislation after him next.

  • helms was a conservative icon, not surprising considering how racist and homophobic he was. helms was a dispicable human being and the world is better off without him. i agree with cenk, naming the bill after that shitbag would be huge slap in the face to all AIDS patients.

  • Jesse Helms? That's like naming a synagogue after him.

  • Amazing. However it would be a great idea to name a cancer or aids lesion after helms. Those giant purple sore lesions could be called Helms Lesions. That would be fitting.

  • Ahhhh...Lipstick Libby! Our Senator!

    My fellow NCians will probably re-elect the Phanton Stepford Senator! She's done SO much for the state!

    What a brain dead idiot she is! Yes, she IS that clueless. She knows nor cares about anything in NC. She's "from" Kansas after all.

  • Elizabeth Dole is "sick" to suggest this. Jesse would have nothing to do with this bill ... why in the world name it after this bigotted, disgusting, perverted, sick person??? Libby Dole needs her head examined.

  • Dole is NOT unaware of anything! I wish Caucasians would STOP making excuses for each others despicable behavior!

  • And yes that should have said ' Bill ' instead of ' Clinic ' . I was just so awe struck at the thought .

  • Kind of ironic that she wants to name an AIDS clinic after a cocksucker !

  • Republicans; making hate cool since 1968.

  • Actually, I think that shit is funny. If they want to allow the republicans to bastardize the name of Jesse Helms in the name of Aids research, I say: LET THEM DO IT. hahaha. He deserves every bit of it. And the republicans want to do it to him: priceless.

  • two things here

    1. wanna bet the democrats will let them name the bill after him? wanna bet?

    2. people should make a point of urinating on his grave every time they go past it

  • saving my pee for bush

  • 1. LAWD, no

    2. Thanks for the idea...I know where it is.

  • If you've seen Dole, you know how ugly and aged he is, but his wife... my god! She looks like she belongs in "Laverne and Shirley."

  • Dole and his wife should just get out of politics. They've done nothing to help it out, and this bill is so hypocritical if Congress actually votes to name it after Jesse Helms. I sure hope they knock down her proposal. I think this is just her way of letting Jesse Helms mock gay people and HIV-positive folks from beyond the grave.

  • By the way, everyone here, Jesse Helms is fucking worm food. He can rot in fucking Hell for his bigotry.

  • Then again, according to his religion, he's supposedly in Heaven right now. Part of the reason I've reasoned that Christianity is a load of horseshit.

  • I'm Buddhist, try not to show anger but sometimes its just difficult not to, especially with bigots. Being TS I get a lot of hate my way.

  • I think he got the surprise of his life (or death) when he ended up in HELL with Jerry Falwell ... and so many other bigots!

  • Not according to Christian doctrine, which says all you have to do is accept Jesus and eternal salvation is yours.

    To give a broader example of this, if Adolf Hitler really WAS a Christian (which is up for debate, but I'm being hypothetical here) , that means HE got into Heaven while all the innocent Jews his regime slaughtered went straight to Hell.

    And people wonder why I now regard the Christian religion as a steaming load of fuck.

  • And again, I point out tht if Hitler really did believe what he did was for the cause of Jesus, then he's got eternal salvation while all the victims of the Holocaust are damned.

    Am I the only one who sees the EGREGIOUS FLAW in this reasoning? So much for a perfect, just God....

  • According to the bible you don't get eternal salvation by just believing anything you do is alright because YOU believe it's for the cause of Jesus. The Cause of Jesus is about repentance, turning away from your sins, loving your enemies despite their actions against you and personal sacrifice. You're not going to get salvation for mass murder with a kind thought behind it.

  • Ah yes, that's the sort of apologist excuse-making I'd expect whenever someone points out that Chriistian doctrine explicitly says acceptance of Jesus is all it takes to be saved, no matter what.

    The capacity of people to twist and turn things and become a theological pretzel when confronted with contradictory evidence never ceases to amaze me. Hey, I see Young Earth creationists (aka: IDiots) pull that shit all the time.

  • This isn't a twist, it's straight from the bible. "Confess with your mouth and believe in your heart that Jesus Christ is lord" A lord is a person who has power or control over others. Christ's life and teachings were about love your neighbor and submission to God. There's nothing about him ever being ok with genocide or anything like that.  So by accepting Christ you are committing yourself to walking his path.

  • "There's nothing about him ever being ok with genocide or anything like that."

    And yet throughout history there are many who have attempted genocide in God's name.

  • Jesus' appearance was all about reconciliation between man and God. All that genocide was a long time before he appeared.

  • More apologist nonsense, trying to brush aside clear evidence that your own religious text condones genocide.

    And I was referring more to stuff that happened well after Christ allegedly walked the Earth. Stuff like the Spanish Inquisition, the Salem Witch Trials, the Crusades, the Nazi Holocaust. That sort of thing.

  • All of that stuff contradicted the teachings of Christ

  • "All of that stuff contradicted the teachings of Christ"

    And yet they were all committed by people who professed belief in Jesus.

  • Again, the actions contradicted the teachings of Christ. No matter what you profess if you do the exact opposite of it you are in no way reflecting that teaching.

  • Say whatever you like, but the sheer frequency of atrocities committed throughout the ages by those professing to act in God's name led me to see the moral bankruptcy of the whole sordid affair and I am proud of having severed all ties to it.

  • I don't have to say anything more than the fact that the actions by those professing God don't match up with the teachings of Christ. Hope it works out for ya

  • Rucker - that is a complete lie. One of several examples- Deut:20

    ---

    16 However, in the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes.

    17 Completely destroy them - the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusite - as the LORD your God has commanded you.

    ---

    No, no genocide there. Not at all. If you accept Jesus as part of the trinity, he was absolutely ok with genocide.

  • Matthew

    43-44 47

    You have heard the law that says, 'Love you neighbor' and hate your enemy. But I say love you enemies. Pray for those who persecute you.

    If you are only kind to your friends how are you different from anyone else? Even pagans do that.

    God hates sin and it must be destroyed, however Jesus' death on the cross was basically the punishment for sin and the completion of the law therefore there is no talk of genocide in Christ's teachings.

  • Chris, that's exactly what I'm pointing out. Jesus is God, according to the Bible, and God clearly had no problem dropping a nuke on folks. Reading the OT vs the NT - it truly seems like there are two completely different gods. Jesus clearly renounced Leviticus in several key areas, so it seems that Jesus, who is God, is rejecting the word of God. Once we start just picking the verses we like we can justify any madness, like slavery, and keeping women from voting.

  • Jesus' arrival was basically all about reconciling man with God, and to do that he paid the penalty for sin by his death on the cross.  Now that sin is paid for Jesus fulfilled the law thereby no blood needs to be shed in the name of God, whether it's people or animal sacrifices.

  • For me and 47f0 to even begin to accept that line of reasoning, we have to establish that this 'God' fellow you speak of actually exists, this 'Jesus' guy actually did walk the Earth, and there is such thing as 'sin'. And so far, all you've done is make bare assertions with no proof to back them up.

  • There's where you're mistaken. I'm not here to prove or convince you of anything. I just disagree that theoretically the holocaust would line up with Christian doctrine. If you choose not to believe in Christ, God, sin etc. that's your choice and I respect that. I just replied to your characterization of Christianity

  • Oh, and there's something I can't believe I forgot to mention....

    You keep insisting that all those Christians I linked to some of the worst atrocities in history somehow don't count as 'true' Christians?

    Four words: NO TRUE SCOTSMAN FALLACY

  • Again, the actions of those people were not consistent with the teachings or actions of Christ

  • That's not the issue. And it still doesn't change the fact that they WERE Christians and they DID commit atrocities. Repeating the same logical fallacy over and over won't help you.

  • Actually it is the issue. This convo started from your definition of Christian Doctrine and the actions you're describing are not consistent with the teachings of Christ. Like sayin i love you then killing you. It's not a logical fallacy. If I say I serve Jesus then do anything but what he says, who's will am I serving?

  • Are you even aware of the definition of the 'no true Scotsman' fallacy, which you're STILL using? You have access to Google and Wikipedia. Use them.

    "If I say I serve Jesus then do anything but what he says, who's will am I serving?"

    That's the problem with ALL religious doctrines; they can be twisted and exploited to justify anything, even if it contradicts with other tenets. Christians use the stuff about not letting witches live, Muslims use the stuff about killing infidels....

  • Jesus speaks about loving your enemies and praying for those that persecute you. He didn't condone killing infidels or witches in the Gospel

  • I don't give a fuck what Jesus (if he existed) SAID. All I'm talking about is what those who believe in Jesus DO.

    You say no Christian would condone or commit murder and genocide. To prove you wrong, all I must do is find ONE Christian that did. That's it, only ONE. And I didn't point out just one...I pointed out MILLIONS of Christians who have murdered and/or gone along with mass murder.

    By continuing to use the No True Scotsman fallacy, you're just emrarrassing yourself.

  • Well your opinion of what Christ said is irrelevant since the sayings of Christ are basically the foundation of Christianity. That's basically all I was talking about. I'm a Christian, and I sin, but that doesn't mean God condones sin, it means I'm screwing up.

    Sorry, not familiar with the Scotsman thing

  • It's NOT a no true scotsman fallacy. "He who obeys the teachings of Christ" is an entirely legitimate definition of "a Christian". Thus, denying that those who do not do so are not truly Christian (or were not acting according to their Christianity) is, consequently, completely legitimate. Don't spout fallacies at people just because what they say has the inital appearance of being fallacious.

  • no, you're not the only person who sees this flaw megagrey. it is interesting however, that you will find many so called "christians" who will some how be able to either ignore the obvious, or will feel sorry for you for the hate your harbor against helms. in the case of "christians", ignorance is truly bliss.

  • those two fat fools along with uncle Strom split hell wide open!

  • Cenk Uygur writes for Huffington Post you idiot

  • You actually know who Cenk Uygur is,and I am a fool? Of course these guys all write for these different Soros funded outlets, hence the term "incestuous". Reading your own stuff as a source for a story is not reportung it is masturbatory preaching to the choir. Enjoy yourselves. I have been checking these guys out, since they said that Keith Olbermann;'s ratings were high enough to give legitimacy to liberal media. So they sit in their studio and right columns for Zsa-Zsa's rediculous website.

  • They sit in their studios and write columns. That "right" was a Freudian slip of yours I believe.

  • That was my slip - Freud had nothing to do with it.I have the freedom to watch and comment  One point I'd like to make - about aids.The aids pandemic, that has deprived us of so many of our best and brightest people, was directly addressed by and funding for research provided by, let's see, what is his name? Oh,that's right! President George W. Bush. Let's see The Young Jerks, Zsa-Zsa Huffington and Keith (Countdown to Zero Ratings) spin that one. have a wonderful day.

  • So what?  You don't like it, don't watch.

    Cenk's on the radio too. Some of us catch him there, some here, and some on HuffPo. ...It's kind of like how you can get Sean Hannity on the radio, or watch his TV show at night :)

  • Actually I am much more a Mark Levin fan. Believe it or not, the only things I watch on Fox are Special Report with Britt Hume (Charles Krauthammer is the man!!) and Red Eye - gotta' love Red Eye!!

    You follow these guys from venue to venue? Were you trying to deal with insomnia at some point in your life? Bet it worked too.

  • Hell might be OK until Ted Kennedy gets there.

  • Wasn't Elizabeth the Agriculture Sec. at one point? Figures. It doesn't seem to take that much academic experience or intelligence to run a department based mainly on farming, unlike say the Commerce Dept. or Defense Dept. or Treasury Dept. And of course, Bob Dole's running mate in 96 was almost equally dumb, being the head of HUD, probably another obsolete department that should be decentralized and given to the states. Bob Dole, of course, is the 3rd-person-talking asswipe candidate of 96.

  • No offense to farmers, but come on. If you know how to drive and cultivate plants and raise animals and slaughter them for meat, it's not that hard.

  • They should SEND HIM the AIDS bill.

  • She reminds me of the Jack Nicholson "Joker" from the Michael Keaton Batman movie.

  • Fuck Jesse Helms.

  • what a bad guy

  • KAY HAGAN '08......

    dole needs out of NC!

  • She looks like Katherine Harris. I don't get her play with this move. Does she really think that's going to boost her re-election with her home state crowd?

  • Unbelieveable. What's she smokin?

  • aaaaaaaaaaassssssssssss hhhhhhhhhhooooollllllllleeeeee­eeee

  • fuck Jesse Helms

  • god damnit leeroy im 3rd.

  • LOL 2ND

  • WTF?

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