3 Thugs looking for someone to rob did this deal it turns out. One bad idea and it destroyed how many lives? Crazy shit. The character assassinations of these two individuals after the murder make it even more fucked up. Granny and Sis need to apologize - in public at a press conference - to earn the right to see the young girl.
If i was her i would tell his family to go fuck off you are never seeing that kid.And you dont know he was innocent.Cops are so dumb that they actually get to lie to suspects to get info.That is such a corruption of justice.
A man was arrested accused of killing Vino!! He and two other were randomly looking for someone to rob. Apparently Vino punch one in the face and he shot him. ... Raven was as i knew when i saw this innocent!! Grandma and auntie need to do some serious apologizing...
the 'witness' killed him...i find that all very suspicious. i wonder if they tested her for dna match for the bullet. because think about it she saw 2 males go into the driveway heard shots then saw them run out but still didnt go see what happened or call the police?? she jus got on the bus. seems abit fishy. and then she told the police it was 2males just to throw them off!!!
It was not some side chick because she would have killed the wife instead. It was probably his wife or some random black dude. Black guys kill each other like it's a sport.
it must been hard to have these kinds of inlaws on the side... they dont help the case, they just want to focus on the wife. i wonder if the inlaws also wants the insurance money
Is it just me or would another hour of seeing Vino's mother articulate her words had them losing their minds?? Geez lady, I feel for you but all of those pauses, lip movements, and accents reminding me of Scar in the Lion King is all too much!! Other than that, God bless you but I think you need to give your daughter in law a break.
When I started watching part 1 I was sure the wife had done it since it usually turns out to be the spouse who is guilty. When I saw how his mother and sister had turned on his wife I started to feel sorry for her and I still do. I don't know if she is guilty or not. One thing is a little creepy though...that the wife is posting comments on here and asking people to email her - if it is really her - I don't know, i'm not going to email her to find out either.
The wife looks so down to earth, convincing to me....; many elder-scammers are this type though. She apparently lied her whereabout that morning, even if the mother-in-law lied, the insurance agent / friend could't have lied. Besides, it's unbelievable sb couldn't even make up the premium, why double their insurance? Raven took the pills when her friend was there, could that be just where the female DNA come from? I am just saying she is suspicious, not guilty!
An African-American woman with short hair can easiliy be mistaken for a male. As can an caucasian, asian or native american. The witness couldn't even see their faces.
Hope they find the person responsible, hopefuly not Raven so that the mom & sister can eat their own words. Feel sorry for Raven & her daughter God blass you two.
What if someone was attempting to break into their home or a neighbors, he came out, they panicked and killed him! No murder for hire at all!The personal item found in his pocket may have been a unique pocket watch,maybe belonging to his Father?Maybe from the Carribean, maybe from his Father?Just a thought.
Why are the leads not taking them to the other woman? I don't understand why they haven't arrested anyone!His wife is going through hell, his family is accusing her, yet police aren't saying who did this! Why?
I am wishing Raven and her daughter all the best for the future! I hope the guilty person/s are brought to justice soon so you can get on with your lives without the constant blame and finger pointing from police and an obviously biased and grief stricken family who it was clear disliked their daughter/sister in-law from the beginning of the relationship.
the family never liked the daughter in law thats why they blame her..... my family in law dosent like me either and they would surely blame me as well.
One does have to wonder if this case will ever actually get solved. Philadelphia has one of the highest murder rates for minority males of any major american city. And his family, very working class, and without any life insurance payout, probably can't afford to hire a private investigator to help. Very unfortunate.
@brandtrey1 this case is being handled by the FBI and we are very close to solving it! please continue to reach out if you can to encourage them to keep going! the grand jury is going on as we speak and i am just praying for enough evidence to convict their suspect(s)
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Well she's clearly lying about what she was doing when he was shot. She told her friend she was in the shower, but now denies it?.....maybe she shot him herself, then took this shower to wash off GSR?......... if it wasn't robbery, how would a stranger know the personal value of this item in his pocket, and why would they take it?
The other story is disputable; I even think it was an error, a he-said-she-said thing. In the beginning of this episode, she distinctly said (99% positive) that she was in bed with the baby, feeding her. I assumed she was breastfeeding. That's how most nursing babies start their day, so I do believe that Raven was in bed doing exactly that, nourishing her offspring. When the other story "broke," her facial expressions were of clear confoundment. I think I'm pretty good at reading people ...(?)
@extrachewyy im sorry if thats what you took from the episode it is very clear that some did not pay attention to the end. The FBI are very close to solving this case and as we speak a grand jury is being held. Please pray they have enough evidence to arrest the suspect(s) one all ready in custody...but Thank you for watching
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innocent until proven guilty. i don't see any evidence whatsoever. I wish her good luck raising her child.
And from what I have seen of the guilty until proven innocent american justice system I think if she failed the lie detector then we would have the results.
@WillShakespeare2007 we are very close to solving this case please pray for the investigators to keep going, and they will have enough evidence to convcit the suspect(s) one who is all ready in custody.
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The witness saw what she saw, two black males in & out during the shooting..... but, my opinion is, there are black women who are build and look like a man. Actually, some look more manly than most black men themselves. And that's my honest opinion about it, and I know there's probably going to be some comments to me from some black females who are in denial. Well, theTruth hurts, don't it?
@alottaUtube I think the same about white women when they reach 30's, they tend to look like blokes wearing wigs. Black women tend to have higher estrogen levels than white women, so if that makes them 'manly', God knows what it says about white women.
@edgehill66 I don't mean ALL black women. That's ridiculous! And yes, for the most part... white women do age horribly after their 30s. Most will probably need surgery, & or get needle shots in their faces for the rest of their lives! I thank god for my mixed heritage. Black, I don't age after my 30s. & the white in me.... I look Spanish with some European features! :P If you're black and had a hard life, or drugs..... then, that's when black women look older than their age.
@popartpistol He very well might have been having a secret affair, but that would just be another motive for the wife....that and a life insurance policy for a cool 2 mil. As far as taking the cell phone in order to hide a number, the phone company would have those records anyway. Either way, this was obviously an execution style paid hit. If somebody knows something, that $50G reward will probably loosen some lips.
Vino may have been screwing around with someone. He may have told her he was not going to leave his wife and she took him out. She took the personal item they have described. His side honey would have known his schedule too. The bus stop witness makes me wonder too! Who just goes on after seeing and hearing that? And no real details about the two alleged African American runners- just vague descriptions.
@pumibel i choose to believe that my husband was faithful and dedicated to his family. as far as the witness please remember that we live in a time where people kill just to kill....while she didnt call immediately i am forever grateful she did call at some point.
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@pumibel Actually, you would be surprised to learn how common it is in these communities for witnesses to not get involved. I learned this myself as a jury member on a trial in Newark NJ. There were tons of witnesses in that case, but absolutely no one admitted having seen anything. It was explained to me by fellow jurors that this reluctance stems from fear of retribution and also no small concern about the integrity of law enforcement. Explained that way, it actually made sense to me.
...all the police need is the witness fingerprint to eliminate or substantiate her as a suspect. I am sure they are looking anywhere and everywhere for clues. I just hope justice is served. I do think someone who knew him was involved with his death but who I have no idea.
@bobfryfish The FBI is very very close to solving this and please pray that they have enough to convict the suspect9s) one all ready in custody to bring justice to my family
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I disagree. That isn't really a smart choice because it's not like they would be aware of the witness anyway. People who commit crimes aren't going to want to associate with the police unless they are arrogant or a sociopath...it doesn't sound rational to me. I mean if the witness had something to do with it, wouldn't it have been more logical to keep her mouth shut?
I agree that is in fact strange but it's possible there may have been two males and a female involved. Anyway...
intenseeee..... this one baffles me..,,the mom,,,didnt show up at the wedden 10 years before...so was this intuition.... or was it that now u cant take her story for real..... becuz she had the wife marked from the get go... whos to say.... theres no evidense to know....someones gonna have to talk... only way dis can be solved
All I know is this wasn't a random shooting. The fact they were lying in wait and knew when he was coming out the house? How would they know that? I believe whoever did it had to know him.
However, I can't say if the wife has something to do with his death.
@fleurgi Thank you for kind words. It has been a very difficult three years. Unfortunately my relationship with my husbands family only exists on paper. the lawsuit papers that include her suing her grand daughter.
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Yeah, but say if the witness had something to do with his death...why then report to police what she saw. Someone who is involved with a crime doesn't want to get caught and will disassociate from the crime as much as possible.
@Reip187 please consider what you are saying if she did why would she come forward? please consider she now may not participate in helping solve this case due to fear and slander. Thank you for watching
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@trotwoodtrouble and we are very close to finding the truth please pray the fbi has enough to convict the suspect(s) one who is all ready in custody and bring justice to not just my family but to the community. Thank you for watching
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whoever did it will regret doing this, Karma is on the way.
Zharpenx 3 days ago
3 Thugs looking for someone to rob did this deal it turns out. One bad idea and it destroyed how many lives? Crazy shit. The character assassinations of these two individuals after the murder make it even more fucked up. Granny and Sis need to apologize - in public at a press conference - to earn the right to see the young girl.
bumcheek7 4 days ago in playlist Death in the Driveway
Maybe he was having an affair and the other woman was mad or her ex was mad .. idk
brendayjuani 5 days ago
If i was her i would tell his family to go fuck off you are never seeing that kid.And you dont know he was innocent.Cops are so dumb that they actually get to lie to suspects to get info.That is such a corruption of justice.
jasrogg 1 week ago 3
Baby Boy was fucking around on his wife.And got GOT.
jasrogg 1 week ago
A man was arrested accused of killing Vino!! He and two other were randomly looking for someone to rob. Apparently Vino punch one in the face and he shot him. ... Raven was as i knew when i saw this innocent!! Grandma and auntie need to do some serious apologizing...
copalola315 2 weeks ago
the 'witness' killed him...i find that all very suspicious. i wonder if they tested her for dna match for the bullet. because think about it she saw 2 males go into the driveway heard shots then saw them run out but still didnt go see what happened or call the police?? she jus got on the bus. seems abit fishy. and then she told the police it was 2males just to throw them off!!!
MyBubblybubbly 1 month ago
Shittiest Dateline Crime Mystery ever. I hate the open-ended ones.
Contractnik 1 month ago
My guess...someone in his joint realestate venture had him killed so that they wouldn't lose more money on a declining market.
drumsandguitar74 1 month ago
no offence but with in-laws like that id make sure that the life insurance policy was in order if my hubby died!
xane1990 2 months ago
It was not some side chick because she would have killed the wife instead. It was probably his wife or some random black dude. Black guys kill each other like it's a sport.
bdfsyuew 2 months ago
@bdfsyuew OMG...lol...so funny...evil...but funny.
Contractnik 1 month ago
@Contractnik You are an idiot.
bdfsyuew 1 month ago
it must been hard to have these kinds of inlaws on the side... they dont help the case, they just want to focus on the wife. i wonder if the inlaws also wants the insurance money
27maui 2 months ago
Is it just me or would another hour of seeing Vino's mother articulate her words had them losing their minds?? Geez lady, I feel for you but all of those pauses, lip movements, and accents reminding me of Scar in the Lion King is all too much!! Other than that, God bless you but I think you need to give your daughter in law a break.
theboneclover 2 months ago
CSI Miami would have solved this case in half an hour. Guaranteed!
cawimmer430 3 months ago
When I started watching part 1 I was sure the wife had done it since it usually turns out to be the spouse who is guilty. When I saw how his mother and sister had turned on his wife I started to feel sorry for her and I still do. I don't know if she is guilty or not. One thing is a little creepy though...that the wife is posting comments on here and asking people to email her - if it is really her - I don't know, i'm not going to email her to find out either.
Morgana0x 3 months ago
The wife looks so down to earth, convincing to me....; many elder-scammers are this type though. She apparently lied her whereabout that morning, even if the mother-in-law lied, the insurance agent / friend could't have lied. Besides, it's unbelievable sb couldn't even make up the premium, why double their insurance? Raven took the pills when her friend was there, could that be just where the female DNA come from? I am just saying she is suspicious, not guilty!
Evidenceppl 3 months ago
An African-American woman with short hair can easiliy be mistaken for a male. As can an caucasian, asian or native american. The witness couldn't even see their faces.
carkees1 4 months ago
Hope they find the person responsible, hopefuly not Raven so that the mom & sister can eat their own words. Feel sorry for Raven & her daughter God blass you two.
Ms78chevy 4 months ago 3
i feel so bad for vino. he did not deserve this
queenshelley420 6 months ago
What if someone was attempting to break into their home or a neighbors, he came out, they panicked and killed him! No murder for hire at all!The personal item found in his pocket may have been a unique pocket watch,maybe belonging to his Father?Maybe from the Carribean, maybe from his Father?Just a thought.
judy4justice 6 months ago
What if someone was attempting to break into their home or a neighbors, he came out, they panicked and killed him! No murder for hire at all!
judy4justice 6 months ago
Why are the leads not taking them to the other woman? I don't understand why they haven't arrested anyone!His wife is going through hell, his family is accusing her, yet police aren't saying who did this! Why?
judy4justice 6 months ago 2
I am wishing Raven and her daughter all the best for the future! I hope the guilty person/s are brought to justice soon so you can get on with your lives without the constant blame and finger pointing from police and an obviously biased and grief stricken family who it was clear disliked their daughter/sister in-law from the beginning of the relationship.
groovyvirgochick 6 months ago 6
His wife had some thing to do with the murder
Africanstar6 6 months ago
maybe it was a gang initiation thing. sometimes they have to kill to get into the gang
blacksuite1 7 months ago
the family never liked the daughter in law thats why they blame her..... my family in law dosent like me either and they would surely blame me as well.
ilovebubu28 7 months ago
One does have to wonder if this case will ever actually get solved. Philadelphia has one of the highest murder rates for minority males of any major american city. And his family, very working class, and without any life insurance payout, probably can't afford to hire a private investigator to help. Very unfortunate.
brandtrey1 7 months ago
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ravenojoy 6 months ago
Well she's clearly lying about what she was doing when he was shot. She told her friend she was in the shower, but now denies it?.....maybe she shot him herself, then took this shower to wash off GSR?......... if it wasn't robbery, how would a stranger know the personal value of this item in his pocket, and why would they take it?
extrachewyy 7 months ago
The other story is disputable; I even think it was an error, a he-said-she-said thing. In the beginning of this episode, she distinctly said (99% positive) that she was in bed with the baby, feeding her. I assumed she was breastfeeding. That's how most nursing babies start their day, so I do believe that Raven was in bed doing exactly that, nourishing her offspring. When the other story "broke," her facial expressions were of clear confoundment. I think I'm pretty good at reading people ...(?)
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ravenojoy 6 months ago
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@extrachewyy im sorry if thats what you took from the episode it is very clear that some did not pay attention to the end. The FBI are very close to solving this case and as we speak a grand jury is being held. Please pray they have enough evidence to arrest the suspect(s) one all ready in custody...but Thank you for watching
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ravenojoy 6 months ago
innocent until proven guilty. i don't see any evidence whatsoever. I wish her good luck raising her child.
And from what I have seen of the guilty until proven innocent american justice system I think if she failed the lie detector then we would have the results.
WillShakespeare2007 8 months ago 2
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ravenojoy 6 months ago
That guy's mother and sister are total cunts.
gravyboatK 8 months ago 4
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wow its so weird how much Island blacks hate mainland blacks.
RonnieDobbz1978 8 months ago
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@RonnieDobbz1978 its most unfortunate but i hope it changes
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ravenojoy 6 months ago
wow its so weird how much Island blacks hate mainland blacks.
RonnieDobbz1978 8 months ago 4
The witness saw what she saw, two black males in & out during the shooting..... but, my opinion is, there are black women who are build and look like a man. Actually, some look more manly than most black men themselves. And that's my honest opinion about it, and I know there's probably going to be some comments to me from some black females who are in denial. Well, theTruth hurts, don't it?
alottaUtube 8 months ago
@alottaUtube I think the same about white women when they reach 30's, they tend to look like blokes wearing wigs. Black women tend to have higher estrogen levels than white women, so if that makes them 'manly', God knows what it says about white women.
edgehill66 8 months ago
@edgehill66 I don't mean ALL black women. That's ridiculous! And yes, for the most part... white women do age horribly after their 30s. Most will probably need surgery, & or get needle shots in their faces for the rest of their lives! I thank god for my mixed heritage. Black, I don't age after my 30s. & the white in me.... I look Spanish with some European features! :P If you're black and had a hard life, or drugs..... then, that's when black women look older than their age.
alottaUtube 8 months ago
Totally had a gf on the side who took his phone due to it having her number in it.
popartpistol 8 months ago 22
@popartpistol He very well might have been having a secret affair, but that would just be another motive for the wife....that and a life insurance policy for a cool 2 mil. As far as taking the cell phone in order to hide a number, the phone company would have those records anyway. Either way, this was obviously an execution style paid hit. If somebody knows something, that $50G reward will probably loosen some lips.
ipsofacto297 3 months ago
@popartpistol Good call. It wasn't the wife. I forgot the cellphone was missing. But did they check the records?
Contractnik 1 month ago
Vino may have been screwing around with someone. He may have told her he was not going to leave his wife and she took him out. She took the personal item they have described. His side honey would have known his schedule too. The bus stop witness makes me wonder too! Who just goes on after seeing and hearing that? And no real details about the two alleged African American runners- just vague descriptions.
pumibel 8 months ago 16
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@pumibel i choose to believe that my husband was faithful and dedicated to his family. as far as the witness please remember that we live in a time where people kill just to kill....while she didnt call immediately i am forever grateful she did call at some point.
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ravenojoy 6 months ago
@pumibel Actually, you would be surprised to learn how common it is in these communities for witnesses to not get involved. I learned this myself as a jury member on a trial in Newark NJ. There were tons of witnesses in that case, but absolutely no one admitted having seen anything. It was explained to me by fellow jurors that this reluctance stems from fear of retribution and also no small concern about the integrity of law enforcement. Explained that way, it actually made sense to me.
10finetoes 3 months ago
...all the police need is the witness fingerprint to eliminate or substantiate her as a suspect. I am sure they are looking anywhere and everywhere for clues. I just hope justice is served. I do think someone who knew him was involved with his death but who I have no idea.
bobfryfish 8 months ago
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ravenojoy 6 months ago
I disagree. That isn't really a smart choice because it's not like they would be aware of the witness anyway. People who commit crimes aren't going to want to associate with the police unless they are arrogant or a sociopath...it doesn't sound rational to me. I mean if the witness had something to do with it, wouldn't it have been more logical to keep her mouth shut?
I agree that is in fact strange but it's possible there may have been two males and a female involved. Anyway...
bobfryfish 8 months ago
intenseeee..... this one baffles me..,,the mom,,,didnt show up at the wedden 10 years before...so was this intuition.... or was it that now u cant take her story for real..... becuz she had the wife marked from the get go... whos to say.... theres no evidense to know....someones gonna have to talk... only way dis can be solved
TrppyTV 8 months ago
All I know is this wasn't a random shooting. The fact they were lying in wait and knew when he was coming out the house? How would they know that? I believe whoever did it had to know him.
However, I can't say if the wife has something to do with his death.
bobfryfish 8 months ago
@bobfryfish no way--there was a plan to ambush him in the a.m as he was leaving--someone who knew him/his schedule!!
butelezi00roman 8 months ago
this whole thing is sad. i hope for the sake of the daughter the families can make peace and find the murderer
fleurgi 8 months ago
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@fleurgi Thank you for kind words. It has been a very difficult three years. Unfortunately my relationship with my husbands family only exists on paper. the lawsuit papers that include her suing her grand daughter.
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ravenojoy 6 months ago
DNA was female on the bullet. WITNESS was a female right? Come on now. Test her...lol
Reip187 8 months ago 2
@Reip187 you are on to something. and the witness didn't bother to call the police. she only told after she saw it on the news
fleurgi 8 months ago
Yeah, but say if the witness had something to do with his death...why then report to police what she saw. Someone who is involved with a crime doesn't want to get caught and will disassociate from the crime as much as possible.
bobfryfish 8 months ago
@Reip187 my thoughts exactly
butelezi00roman 8 months ago
@Reip187 Absolutely!
transitionalphase 8 months ago
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ravenojoy 6 months ago
this is sad but a solveable case ther has to be a least three people that know someone will tell
trotwoodtrouble 8 months ago
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ravenojoy 6 months ago