Jazz Guitar Lesson - Soloing over Minor chords

[Ibanez2546]

thanks!

[bxpr23]

Question: If I'm playing a progression in the key of C, and I'm using 1, 2, and 4 (C-D min-F), and then I repeat the progression with a D Major as a second instead of the minor, what would I be playing, since the second is D dorian?..can someone help?

[mikem376]

Aeolian works perfect.

So does chromatic

[surfinjazzy]

You have great lessons aswell as really good phrasing ideas. Good job brotha!

[carlosmirandaaros]

Muy mala clase

[sonique25]

@carlosmirandaaros pos órale si te parece mala por que no haces una tú?

es fácil criticar no?

[rodrigocastrofoto]

Sorry, but isn´t an easier to understand considering to play the key major scales over the minor chords you mentioned ?

Instead of saying "play D dorian over a Dm when it act as as a II on a major scale" just say "play the I major scale, C major" ?

Of course this interpretation takes to a deeper knowledge of scales and modes sonority, but can this open further doors ?

Pls note this is not a critiscism. I am really trying to understand better this issue.

Thanks!

Thanks!

[surfinjazzy]

Yes, C Major and D Dorian consist of the same notes, but this doesn't make them applicable in the same situations.

Theoretically yes, but, when he states to use D Dorian, one understands the tonal center and what particular notes one should be phrasing.

Also, since the half step interval is between the 2 and the 3, instead of the 3 and 4 like in C Major, the sound is completely different.

That minor third is the key.

I hope I helped, John.

[kukurei]

i didnt get it can you explain it further in a layman manner.. thanks

[kukurei]

does it mean that if my progression is Cmaj Dmin.. since dmin is the second on the progression, i can then use D dorian??

[thejazzman8]

you should always be thinking relative relations...you dont have to relate things back to the major, but it makes it easier... For instance EbMaj7 is related to C aeolian or natural minor, also is Bb7 or mixolydian, or even Dm7b5 or locrian (halfdiminished). Remember though the scales are the same the resolve or root is different so if your looking to use flat 5's you have to work it out. depending on if it's M, m, or dominant

[thejazzman8]

you can do a lot of things like use a diminished scale a half step above the major chord, C#diminished works well over C Maj7, real django style. Your right about thinking about the relative major, thats how joe pass approaching things. It is the same thing in essence just changing the tonic, so you are using a C ionian when your playing dorian, just changing the root; which is crucial.

[newtownband]

A very useful lesson. I learned a lot from it. Many thanks. I hope to see more interesting contributions from you.

Jan

[mraggrovator]

Another good clear lessons.