Kronwall Leaves His Feet & Elbows Carter 5/1/09

[fsuapollo39]

You know what refs miss calls sometimes. Its not like Kronwall flew five feet in the air to hit him. Hes only like 2 inches off the ice. Still should have been called but I think the difference between the hits is the viciousness in Browns hit. Browns hit WAS intent to injure. He knew Hudlers head was down and the puck was not there. Under the blind side hit rule (I know wasnt in place at the time) it would have been a suspension.

[tilth01]

redwings/ducks dont matter...not as long as bettman has his way and the refs keep buying into his system! this years cup will be either redwings or chicago in the west vs. pitts. or capitals in the east. WHY?? because it will generate the most money for the nhl and the owners... anyone who has played or really knows hockey can see that the games are dictated by the refs...no question.

[bishoppx]

@tilth01 The NHL doesn't want Detroit in the playoffs anymore.

[steve0mac]

you are fucking stupid, thats why you guys lost last year.

[psu7bmr]

The rules only apply to those not wearing the Winged Wheel and they especially do not apply if you last name is Zetterberg.

[jimih64]

Clearly, you don't know shit about hockey. Anyone who knows dick knows that Zetterberg is one of the cleanest players in the league. I'm not even a fucking wings fan and I know that.

[psu7bmr]

You're right, I don't know shit. I've only played, reffed, and coached hockey for over 20 years. Not to mention watching hockey for over 30. Zetterberg is a clean player, but I was referring to him covering the puck in the crease with no call in the finals, TWICE.

[chaosninja619]

dude red wings cheat i just watched some guy get hit in the face then the puck hit him in the ribs. but nothing happened to the red wings for that

[silenttriggerman]

thats called hockey...if you don't like it then fuck off

[itlof]

its so funny how red wings fans think that their team is just this perfectly behaving little team that never does anything dirty but anyone that watches them knows the truth. not only with shit like this that they get away with but all the diving like little pussies that they always do. (diving is playing dirty too, its called cheating)

[ilya150]

If you wanna watch some diving, you should watch Sidney Crosby play. Also, the wings don't usually play dirty as a team, its usually Kronwall who delivers the questionable hits.

[itlof]

crosby is a diver and i can't stand him. but pittsburgh only has few divers whereas it seems like the entire red wings team goes down at the slightest contact. i can understand if you don't agree if you are a red wing fan, as many can't seem to get past their biased. i'll be the first to admit that selanne can sometimes go down a bit easy but it's nothing compared to detroit

[jimih64]

You're a fucking retard. The Wings are probably in the top three cleanest teams in the league, especially all their top guys. Bettman fucking hates them and they still consistently have the least penalty minutes in the regular season.

[ilya150]

Someone is still mad about Anahiem losing....

[AnaheimDucks39]

haha it was so funny seeing the red wings lose and cry like a bunch of little pussies to the penguins

[ilya150]

I'm actually not crying, its quite an accomplishment to make it into the finals, let alone do it for the 2nd year in a row. Red Wings lost to a great, young Pittsburgh Team. Talking bout crying, last time i checked, Ducks fans were still mad about losing to the Wings.

[MikeMFMiller]

it was even better watching at joe louis when despite all the disallowed goals and missed calls we still beat you guys in game 7, sending you on a long flight home with nothing to look forward to but golf

[Spartan113]

There was ONE, goal not given. ONE.

And missed calls, like the fucking one in this video? Jesus, is every one in Detroit as stupid as Dead Wings Fans?

And the Ref lost sight of the puck, so it wasn't a goal to begin with. Nice try though. And its not like you would have won the game with that goal, you would have TIED it. That doesn't mean you would have won the game.

Oh and Anaheim beat Detroit in Six in the WCF.

Not to mention the fluke goal that Detroit won on in game 7.

[xjedimindx]

Im a red-wings fan and the tackle from Kronwall is a bad1, alot of elbow but the tackle on huddler aint the best, he passed the puck long time before the tackle hit him. But good tackle just like 1 sec to late

[bruceleedisciple]

Dude, seriously. Go back and look at Browns hit on Hudler. Not 1 second goes by after Hudler dumbs the puck.

[stackem]

do you want some cheese to go with your whine?

[PointThree]

The elbow is there, but not the charging.

Anyway, coming out of this series it's funny to watch a Duck bitch about calls. This doesn't balance out all the shit just Pronger gets away with, let alone the whole team. Dirty ass Ducks.

However, I'm not proud of Kronner for this elbow, that's horseshit.

[bortzy93]

look at all those empty seats at the joe

[keicher09]

I fucking hate Kronwall.  He does this EVERY game, and my Pens had to put up with his bullshit in the finals last year. I'm glad the refs finally called it last night; he got what he desirved.

[robbanrahm]

KING KRONWALL! Sweden Power.

[tommy2beers54]

pay back for the pussy browns hit

[Massmerizer]

Could you specify why that hit was pussy?

[DeTrOiTwInGs19]

ducks lost get over it wings are gonna repeat no one can stop them good luck trying

[eldapeeze]

you want to see a counter hit to this Kronwall hit? Type in Brown hits Hudler. LOL

[DoctaZoidBerg]

Stop whining all you ducks fans, you guys LOST. And EVERY call that goes against you all you do is WHINE and WHINE. The Redwings had a bunch of garbage calls against them and just except it like men. Lets face it the ducks are also the dirtiest team in the league.

[keicher09]

Actually you didn't accept -not except, dumbass -them like men. All of Detroit was bitching at the end of Game 3. I know; I live in Ann Arbor.

[rts797]

Kronwall did not leave his feet before the hit....only after the hit was delivered did his feet come off the ice..as did carters....Browns hit was a deliberate hit well after the puck left Hudlers stick.

[jji1887]

Wow, we get a great, physical, highly contested, highly entertaining series like this, and all you shitstreaks can do is bitch about calls. Guess what? Both teams have gotten the shaft in officiating department. Quit looking at this shit like it's the fucking Zapruder tape.

[detroitsports77]

damn right!

[campydoodles]

Clean hit. Yes, Cronwall left his feet---AFTER the collision, so did Carter. Just because the announcers say he did does not make it so. The referees had a better/closer view and got it right.

Clean hit, by one of the best.

[thunderchickn]

Take of your red glasses and pause the video at 0:43. His feet are off the ice plain and simple. Kronwall got away with that one. The more I watch this series the more he seems like a Dion Phaneuf, and that's not a compliment. Can the Red Wings do no wrong in your eyes?

[ddenman76]

The difference is the puck is present in the hit on Carter, it is not in the hit on Hudler. Anyone who has played the game knows hits like Brown's hit on Hudler present themselves, and are ONLY used in cases of retaliation or sending a message. Carter is expecting a hit, Hudler was not. It was a cheap shot and the refs got it right.

[hydr5]

@ddenman76 just because its a retaliation doesn't mean he shouldn't get a penalty. Especially a charging elbow aka a horizontal elbow based flying dutchman

[tobbbm]

Its kind of hard to get a 5 min without blood. he didnt even fall over. maybe a charging penalty. did you watch game three though? maybe you should pay attention to Refs not counting Redwings goals. Or allowing the ducks to knock over osgood and still get the goal. Learn the rules and quit complaining. If the refs mess up in one area they will fix it later, thats why when they miss a big call on one team they will call them for something later because they are trying there best.

[xxgt465xx]

Thats because Carter is actually tough. The elbow broke his nose and he didn't miss a beat.

[thunderchickn]

LOL I can't believe people are giving this comment thumbs down. First of all this hit is completely independent of Brown's on Hudler. However, if you're going to bring it up go look at any of the NHL greatest hits compilations here on YouTube. Hudler is known for skating with his head down and admiring his passes, as he is the recipient of those big hits more often than not.

[detroitsports77]

in the playoffs anyone could break their nose and still play, say maybe except for cindy crosby, theyd probably bring out the stretcher for him....lol

[5Farr8]

browns hit was not clean. the puck was gone and he gave hudler a stick/elbow to the face. most likely stick. see the blood?

[xxgt465xx]

its called a visor cutting his face.

[5Farr8]

ok. first off. visors arent sharp. Also, how the hell did it cut his forehead then?

[detroitsports77]

any pinching pressure in a small area like the edge of a visor on your forehead where there is very little flesh and hard bone underneath will result in a gash because the skin is pinched and rips open. regardless of how sharp or dull the object hitting u is.

[5Farr8]

i see your point. but i watched an angle in slowmo and the visor went up and away from the head. on browns follow through, the stick went up and cuaght hudlers head

[hockeykillz]

u suck go ducks

[Woodsjr88]

umm... If you know hockey at all...

The puck was right next to Carter which means you are allowed to hit him.... granted Kronwall did leave his feet so it should have been a penalty. But you retarded Anaheim fans think the puck was anywhere near Hudler???It wasn't at all you idiots.

[avsfan7]

the hit on hudler wasnt legal it was a clean hit only it was interference. the refs call for the hudler hit was the right call no suspension but gettng a game misconduct. krownwall shuda goten a penalty maybe 5 minutes

[Diegokincaid]

If the hit on Hudler was leagal then maybe I don't understand the rules. How long after someone gets rid of the puck are you allowed to drop your shoulder and blind side them?

[PTHoeksema]

I can't believe you ducks fans are making way with a 2-1 lead with the refs behind you, and you still find a way to complain!

The ducks are 10 times more dirty than the wings! everyone knows it!

Lets just look at the end of game 3. The ducks win, start to celebrate and decide to go after Zetterberg.

Then Pronger (aka dick head) goes after datsyuk. That is a 7 inch difference. What is he accomplishing?

Just making his rep a little dirtier.

[Selvey10]

it probly wasn't a penalty cuz carter stayed on his feet...if he fell and milked it like usual there would've been a penalty

[kingback19]

when did the nhl get so soft...10 years ago no one would have even mentioned this "hit."

kronwall's hits last year, now those were hits

[PointThree]

Kronner is usually a clean hitter, I think he's trying to play the Ducks game of dirty hockey here when we need to just stick to our game and play it for 60 minutes. We will win the series if we do.

[81fletch81]

I didn't know ducks said "wahhhhhh"...I though they just quacked.

[kbrac2326]

Go wings!! Ducks Suck!! and soo Does the Ducks fans...

[miguelisms]

it was a forearm

his elbow comes up after the initial contact and he leaves his feet after contact was made too. suck it Fucks fans!!

[Snipeshow23]

you're supposed to hit with your shoulder dumbass, not your forearm.

[miguelisms]

you lost DUMBASS

[boudrozoltar]

I see what you dickrods are seeing, kronwalls elbow comes up.

the reason you can see it come up is that it happens after the hit, he was trying to regain his balance because he didn't know carter would go down so easy.

I'll give carter the benifit of the doubt, he was probably diving, but the elbow carter throws is dirty, not even part of the play.

Anaheim is dirty.

[pistons2203]

wow the contact happened before he left his feet

[dm101176]

exactly. but the spear that cut the left side of hudlers forehead, above his brow, when he was hit on his right side was a clean hit. lmao. ducks fans are fools.

[AnaheimDucks39]

this is fucking bullshit. the league loves the pussy ass red wings and hates the ducks. kronwall is such a little bitch sure anyone can knock someone down when there fucking leaping with their elbow. i cant believe someone hasnt knocked this fucker out yet

[19duhart]

hey dumb ass it was not no elbow carter move to the side that is his own falt

[jgoodrow]

No elbow? did you even watch the slowmo replay? fucking moron it almost took his head off

[boudrozoltar]

idiot.

[jgoodrow]

suck one fagget

[KOOLWWEKID]

Didn't Carter break his nose? That's what they said on NBC

[delus1on93]

that broke his nose

[jonokiller]

yeah wings are getting away with alot of calls in this series

[boudrozoltar]

bullshit

[jonokiller]

this video is proof, and also the ducks are getting the bad end of the calls.

[boudrozoltar]

the only elbow I saw was the retaliation for Kronwall's clean hit.

Ahaheim is dirty.

[xxgt465xx]

You are an idiot. I actually have the still frame of the Brown hit on Hudler showing his elbow tucked and not contacting the head. This hit on the other hand, he clearly leaves his feet and leads with his elbow.

[boudrozoltar]

then I guess the issue is the video quality, because, and I repeat myself, the only elbow I see here is the retaliation.

it is amazing that there is almost a minute of video here without a pronger elbow for that matter. that guy is a child molester

[xxgt465xx]

Well, if you are saying this hit is retaliation for the Brown hit then you must not realize that this happened before Brown crushed Hudler legally.

It was really funny because all the Versus announcers were blowing loads over this hit like it was something sent from God, but Brown makes a completely legal hit and they fly off the handle about how dirty Brown's hit was.

[boudrozoltar]

the retaliation I was talking about was at about 31 seconds.

I don't care if the hit on Hudler was legal, it was dirty, and it was late.

I can relate to homer announcers though. I guess you have to understand (about the brown hit) the play was 60' up the ice, and there was a lot of blood. that just doesn't look good.

You should also understand that pronger throws much more brutal elbows than this after almost every whistle. not so much in this series, but he got Zetter bad in OT.

[boudrozoltar]

if you don't like it, post a video that shows kronwall elbowing carter.

this video only shows carter elbow kronwall.

[dylpickleboy]

ya and carter pulled a criss angel with the fake blood right?

[xxgt465xx]

What kind of eyes do you have, man? Kronwall leaves his feet and throws his elbow right into Carter's face. He broke Carter's nose.

[boudrozoltar]

again, perhaps its the video quality. I don't see kronwalls elbow contact the guy's head.

unless, is that kronwall wearing the red?

[xxgt465xx]

yes Kronwall is in red. The Red Wings wear the RED jerseys.

[xxgt465xx]

Gotta love the double standards in the NHL.