suicide in aa and na

[INDYOSKARS]

@4:37

"Institutions" today they call ´em "Rehab-Centers"

MULTI-MILLION-DOLLAR-MONEY-MAK­ING-MACHINES / INDUSTRIES.

Making money off of a "DISEASE" that doesn´t exist.

[INDYOSKARS]

"IF IT WASN´T FOR TEA, I WOULD HAVE COMMITED SUICIDE LONG AGO".

-Tuesday Lobsang Rampa

[INDYOSKARS]

IN AA, ANYONE WHO´S BEEN IN AA FOR SOMETIME, THEN LEAVES

FOR SOME REASON OR OTHER & THEN AFTER A FEW MONTHS

THIS PERSON DIES, THEN, ACCORDING, TO AAers "HE DIED OF ALCOHOLISM".

IN OTHER WORDS, NO ONE WHO LEAVES AA DIES OF "NATURAL CAUSES" !

[LexeconKiddo]

Thank you so much for reminding me why I really despise 12 step programs, in that area at least, you did accomplish something here;)

[dimefeet]

You don't need to be a certified dietitian to know that it's not healthy to swallow bullshit. This video is WAY off track.

[bill012102]

"...at the level of press, radio and film."

[goinout04]

I've decided to remove my previous comment. Send me a message, I'll explain why.....

[zooromeo]

Did anyone else notice the anger in this guys voice when describing his frustration with people who "dont/wont get it".

Asshole

[zooromeo]

Suicide is not the solution but neither is AA.the most destructive act you can do to a human being is convince them that they are powerless, weak and incapable of solving their own problems. Psychologists say that to be able to achieve a goal you need to be able to BELIEVE you can.convincing people they are powerless just fucks them up more.

If "getting your ass round the tables" worked - those people wouldnt die there is approx. 28 odd other methods more suitable for mental health problems.

[NoiseGrinder]

Next time u have an operation dont have an anaesthetic - just write a gratitude list and read the big book hahahahahaha

That guy in the vid is SO retarded he is outa the stone age. Fred Flinstone's dino-dog had more common sense.

[Godlyguitarman]

Go scream in mic and call it music how bout it. Extreme noise iswhat your YT screen name needs to be. Go make your kind of music and make the world peaceful. That is how ridiculous you sound. If you think that is what the program tells you to do then you are wrong.

[geoffreyholliday1971]

thats cool.. believe it or not i live in the cocaine capital of the world.. Colombia

[godlessweasel]

I can believe it - you're off your trolly

[geoffreyholliday1971]

ok i give up.. go take your prozac b4 u kill yourself

[OneDarkFlame1]

Another stupid fuck who cant seem to master the 'reply' feature... in order to make it look as if we have backed off.

Bad luck, bozo!

[Godlyguitarman]

Dont ever give up. The haters feel on people who will back off. I think that they should get over themselves and get a life.

[2pWORTH]

Godly shouldnt you be at a meeting putting vunerable people at risk from your your sex offender freinds?

Or maybe at home putting your wife and kid at risk of being raped?

Isnt that what your best at?

BTW YOU are commiting heresy.

[Godlyguitarman]

I am commiting heresy? You need to get a grip. You have no idea who I am so go fly a kite in a lighten storm. I hear it is pretty windy in Newcastle.

[2pWORTH]

You need to get a grip NODLY,,,

As I have said YOU are commiting heresy against your God....That is a fact little boy....

Why dont you unblock me from your video and let me put you straight on the lies you have told there?

Or are you going to choose to show the world what a coward you are?

[Godlyguitarman]

The only lies here are you and your stupid ideas. NO LIES all the truth you do want to accept. That are lies they are what you hate. The facts are this. I am carrying my experience. I show people how God can help you if you accept them. Notice that acceptence part. Something you have not done. I won't unblock you. That is my right and you have blocked me first. Why not unblock me? Hmmm....hypocritie.

[2pWORTH]

Are you sying that only God can stop you drinking and drugging?

The rest of your comment is made up stories Noddy....

Your not blocked and havent been for long time....

[2pWORTH]

1]No where did I say YOU did say this is the only way,READ.

2]I do NOT add anything.LIAR.

3]You certainly have made up stories about me,my family and what AA has done to us here.LIAR.

4]"You are a sad man"NO your making stories up AGAIN!

[Godlyguitarman]

LOL man that makes me laugh. You don't added anything. I stated that one of my friends from the rooms came by and he has been arrested for a sexual offence and you add that I am indangering my family and the newcomers to the rooms. Please there are many more where that came from so who is lieing. Childish little boy.

[2pWORTH]

1]You ARE endangering people at your meetings by not warning them that you have sex offenders in the rooms....

NOT ADDING ANYTHING...

DOPEY!

and YOU are putting your wife and child at risk from sex offenders by inviting them into your home...

STILL NOT ADDING ANYTHING.

So YOU are endangering your family and people in the rooms...

So NO I am not lieing...

STOOPID FREAK!

[2pWORTH]

Please Godly point out where I have "added" anything to what you have said....Or admit YET again you are making up stories....

You are endangering people in the rooms and you are also endangering your family.That is NOT adding anything it is a fact,,,

So you tell me who is lieing?

Its YOU isnt it Noddy....

[isegoria1]

I see the clown is over here just starting fights again, I do wonder how this fuck stays clean while he continually starts fights. The latest effort from him was to spend two days starting a fight, threaten me, mock the death of my father and then make a video mocking me.

He is a waste of skin and anyone making the mistake of befriending him will see it eventually. They do say bird of a feather flock together. Can we assume geoffrey is evil like geezer? Right now we can.

[2pWORTH]

He's a nut!

[isegoria1]

NOBODY fucking asked you so STFU

[isegoria1]

Not one to bully? You are so full of shit it is not even funny anymore it is just boorish

[justanotherface123]

Nope but you make adhom videos

[justanotherface123]

Actually my deluded one, I have nothing to do with Isegoria1

Why don't you tell us your name or do you intend to spout your spiritual hate behind an anonymous profile?

FAKE SPIRITUALITY

[Godlyguitarman]

well that seems funny that where he is commenting you are there too. Bird of the same feather flock together. btw I know better than let hater like you and tom invade my life. Call name all you want I don't care. Also if tom really cared then he wouldn't have posted all his info on the internet. Seems to me that tom has my name and doesn't know how to research me.

[godlessweasel]

We're all the same person, don'tcha know... LOL!

[isegoria1]

I call them like I see them now run along back to your cult

[isegoria1]

How can I bully you when you are beating me to it?

WATERHEAD

[Godlyguitarman]

What I am doing is not bully you it is not taking your crap and believe that you are no more that just a bunch of mouth spilling hate and false truths. Nothing more.

[isegoria1]

I believe nothing it is you who believes in an imaginary sky daddy who gave you a brain disease to punish you.

Run along with your delusion

[Godlyguitarman]

Again trying to bully me. Guess what Tommy boy. It doesn't work.Why dont you use one of your scare tactic now to try scare me. Like finding my IP address again. What has been the best one so far.

[isegoria1]

Whining bitch

Nice and consistent theme between you and Yoretard

[anubiscycle]

Crazy in the coconut

[godlessweasel]

Yeah. Geezer made a video about us too - it was too stupidly amusing to be evil, but having seen his latest work I think we can safely say he's a pure, unadulterated evil little turd.

I think his pet ass-licker amuck14 has been giving him lessons in obnoxious, mean-spirited bullshit.

[isegoria1]

Adhom is all they have left. They all got clean for absolutely no reason. Maybe they should all go drink? They will still be the same insane assholes, I mean what would the difference be? guitargeezer hides behind his religion so he can excuse being an asshole.

I am sure I would dislike them drunk too. It has never occurred to them that they should sue their brains for non support or punitive damages.

Being stuck in meetings with people like them? = HELL

[godlessweasel]

Sue their brains - that is pure genius, LOL. They probably made more sense when drunk.

It piss me off that they make these vids then block us (ok, so I made a silly one about the humbots, but they weren't blocked at the time...)

[isegoria1]

Cowardice is the norm, if they were actually being truthful then why would they hide?

It is clear that the goal was never about getting clean otherwise they would have no problem with the idea that we got clean without them. It is and always will be about the pseudo religious indoctrination.

[godlessweasel]

Glad I'm not staying clean on cowardice and bullshit.

And the nastiness - OMG! I can remember people crawling back to the meetings having used or drank feeling like absolute crap and you could see the steppers gloating. They'd say stuff like 'thanks for doing my drinking for me.'

That attitude just proves its not a true disease. If they said to someone 'thanks for contracting HIV or cancer for me' I am pretty sure they'd get smacked in the teeth...

[2pWORTH]

You are not in a positions to help anyone Noddy.............Your an ego tistical killer.

[Godlyguitarman]

who the hell are you to judge anyone little man. Go take care of your wife.

[2pWORTH]

Oh, then you blocked him...

I don't need taking care of thanks, howard the coward.

GW

[2pWORTH]

I know EXACTLY what you are nodly.......You ALL follow the same principles for a start,That means we can read you like a book ALL of you.........

I also know EVERYTHING you have told us about you here...SAo guess what dweeb...I know you..

You have heard its pretty windy in newcastle?

Really!!I heard AA/NA was full of ego tistical cowards,liars and cheats....I am right...

[OneDarkFlame1]

Alcoholics/Narcotics Anonymous:

A Permanent Solution to a Temporary Problem.

[godlessweasel]

Flame that is pure genius lolol

[geoffreyholliday1971]

i didnt force u to watch the video... but its ok.. continue to take your meds

[godlessweasel]

Not on any meds, but if I became depressed again I wouldn't hesitate - far more effective than 'sharing, doing service work, prayer and gratitude lists...'

[Godlyguitarman]

What you don't realize it that chapter tell you that you sholdn't take pain killers. NOT depression meds. That is a addict move. If I can do what I want then I won't do anything.

[godlessweasel]

I do take painkillers - I have to sometimes because of a back injury. I take them exactly as and when the doctor tells me to, no problems. It's better than being in agony and unable to move, trust me...

[Godlyguitarman]

Then you are doing exactly what you need to. When addicts decide to over med themselves is when alot of problems occur. I think the thing I see most every hater on YT say are the most extreme things ever. If you read the text and don't take it to the extreme then guess what? It works. The basic text is the foundation of my recovery. I listen to people in the meetings and alot of things they are saying isn't in the text. So maybe that is the difference between what I did and you. God Bless

[2pWORTH]

It doesnt work Nobly....It just creates assholes like you and Aduck....Little boo hoo cowards....Braying for attention..

The TRUTH is MOST people stop addictions WITHOUT your RELIGIOUS DOGMA....Only true weaklings and cowards stay in recovery for 10 years plus....and admit they know taking drugs is a choice...Like you have..

COWARD!!!!!!!!!

Does your wife know your best freind is a sex offender?Simple question can you answer it?Or are you scared?

[Godlyguitarman]

There are no studies that shows this. Don't even tell me look at orangepapers. That is like tell me to see how the KKK is going by the knight's paper. You are judging me and the program by one person's experience. That's it. You have nothing else. BTW my wife knows about everyone who I am invloved with. That is what the program teaches you. To not hiden anything from your love ones.

[2pWORTH]

No I am judging the programme on

1[LOTS OF PEOPLES EXPERIENCE..

2]THE PEOPLE IT CREATES YOU.....

3]IF YOUR WIFE ACCEPTS SEX OFFENDERS AROUND CHILDREN SHE IS AS FUCKED UP AS YOU...

[Godlyguitarman]

MY wife is F_up you have no room to say a damn thing about my wife. You are a small minded fool. I don't need your approval. Get over the fact your wife made a mistake and take responiblity for it stop blaming the program. I promise that I am the person that anyone would want to meet when you need help. I am going to help. YOu are going to point out their flaws then call them names. So your only experience of recovery is your wife who most have been doing better in the rooms. She stay 9 years.

[zooromeo]

wouldnt want to look at facts would he ?

[2pWORTH]

Now THAT is a fact!

[zooromeo]

fuck me - AGAIN godlydildoman cant construct an english sentence correctly... I think he is either illiterate or so angry when writing he doesnt check what hes saying.

[godlessweasel]

Illiterate AND barking mad - if he had a brain he'd be dangerous LOL

[godlessweasel]

Yeah, they were probably depressed and listening to a stupid prick like you telling them not to take their meds.

Fuck yourself before you do any more damage to vulnerable people.

But seriously, thanks for showing us why we should stay as far away from AA/NA as possible.