Jewish Sect or Christian Orthodox? Original Greek or Hebrew NT?

[paulgem123]

Added link Ruach Qadim above that talks about the genealogy issues and solves the problem using the Aramaic text.

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The evidence is clear but they continue in rebellion Proverbs 28:9 He that turns away his ear from the Torah/instructions/law, even his prayer shall be a abomination.

What is sin? John one of the pillars of the NT Assembly...

1 John 3:4 Whosoever commiteth sin transgresseth also the Torah/instructions/written law, for sin is the trangression of the Torah/instructions/law.

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It is very clear that there are two separate people groups here. One that says "the law/instructions of Moses was done away at the cross" and one that "Holds to the words of the Jewish Messiah and not one jot or title shall pass form the law/Instructions/Torah until all is fulfilled" One is from Roman christo-pagan thought processes and other is from a Hebrew mindset. Deut 12:23 .

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Rev 22:19 “And whoever subtracts from the words of the Scripture of this prophecy, God shall subtract his part from The Tree of Life and from The Holy City, those things which are written in this book.”

Deuteronomy 4:2 Do not add to what I command you and do not subtract from it, but keep the commands of the LORD your God that I give you.

Proverbs 30:6 Do not add to his words, or he will rebuke you and prove you a liar.

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Deut 11:1 Therefore you shall love the LORD your God, and keep his charge, and his statutes, and his judgments, and his commandments, always.

Deuteronomy 11:13 So if you faithfully obey the commands I am giving you today--to love the LORD your God and to serve him with all your heart and with all your soul--

Ezekiel 20:19 I am the LORD your God; follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws

[egwpisteuw]

The Peshitta is an interesting version of the Bible. However, it is a shame that there is a dearth of resources vis-a-vis it's study. You have to learn the Syriac dialect of Aramaic and the resources for doing that are not the best. Thus, there is a barrier to entry if one really wants to get into serious Peshitta study.

[paulgem123]

@egwpisteuw Andrew Gabriel Roth from anetorg is a Aramaic scholar and published a version from Netzari Press. Have you see it and his books and DVD's aramaictruthorg? My purpose for making this video and the other one House of Shammai and House of Hillel is to present objective points of view. On both videos I linked resources for further study on the topic. If you have additional ones then please share with the audience. You are right there are not many resources out there.

[egwpisteuw]

@paulgem123 ---->Andrew Gabriel Roth from anetorg is a Aramaic scholar and published a version from Netzari Press.

Yes, that is a nice volume. I think Vine of David followed the format very closely in their Delitzsch Hebrew Gospels which I own. Also, the use of square script with vowel points is a wise chose, as using Estangelo (or Serta or Madnhaya) would make it much less accessable--and this is the problem with learning the Syriac dialect--the learning materials use (cont)

[egwpisteuw]

@paulgem123 (cont) those scripts. I can more or less follow the text in square script but there are some clear differences between Syriac and Biblical Aramaic that I would need to learn for truly effective study and use.

[paulgem123]

@egwpisteuw Is the point of this video clear? Let me explain just o make sure. My first video House of Shammai and House of Hillel illustrates the Jewish influence on the Believers in Yeshua. This video is trying to get to the origin of the people who walked with Yeshua and the influence that Rome being the super power must have changed from the original faith. I don't believe they were Christian. We have to look to history and the Crusades and Inquisitions tell a story.

[egwpisteuw]

@paulgem123 ----->Is the point of this video clear? Let me explain just o make sure...

Yes, it was clear to me even though I did not watch the first video yet. The early Church got mixed up in many ways. Roman Catholicism, for example, blended Roman the Pagan State Religion with Christianity and made a mess. It is not clear to me that Constantine and Eusebius, for example, were even believers. In my study, there is one theological view that pretty much has it right (cont)

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@egwpisteuw Yes and Protestantism follows suit in their path. With no Sabbath (Exod 31:16-17), no dietary laws (Lev 11) no law of Moses (1 Kings 2:3, Malachi 4:4, Acts 28:23) no Feasts of YHWH (Lev 23:14,21,41) . Separation of the NT and OLD as is it is two different God's one full of vengeance and one full of grace. This thought process is from Rome/Greek mindset. But Christians are the first to say they have the truth when in fact they do the same thing in a different way.

[egwpisteuw]

@paulgem123 ---->This thought process is from Rome/Greek mindset.

But you are missing a key verse in your analysis:

For when the priesthood is changed, of necessity there takes place a change of law also. Heb 7:12

The argument is that the Law of Moses, based on the Levitical Priesthood (Moses was a Levite) has been replaced by the Law of Messiah (Yeshua was not a Levite).

[paulgem123]

@egwpisteuw There is no law of Messiah contrary to the law of Moses. What is changed is the one initiating the priesthood. What you are saying is that there are "two laws" contrary to each other yes but you have the two laws wrong. The law of YHWH is perfect and can never change James 1:25, Psalms 119:44-45. Y'shua taught only this Torah=instructions form His Father. The other law that most miss is traditions or rulings of men that are contrary to the Torah that is perfect.

[egwpisteuw]

@paulgem123 ----->What is changed is the one initiating the priesthood

But that is not what Heb 7:12 says: "there takes place a change of law also."

The Law of Moses is completed, it has been replaced with the Law of Messiah. Messiah Yeshua is the "Prophet like Moses", of whom Moses said "you shall listen to him" (Deut 18:15). The two laws do not contradict, but they are two DIFFERENT law codes.

[paulgem123]

@egwpisteuw Greek (Law) Hebrew (instructions)

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@egwpisteuw What does this plain language mean to you? Aramaic Bible in Plain English

You are worshiping what you do not know. We know what we are worshiping, for The Life (Salvation) is of the Jews.

[egwpisteuw]

@paulgem123 ---->What does this plain language mean to you? Aramaic Bible in Plain English

Are you advocating an Aramaic Primacy position? This is a question of where you believe the inspiration of the Holy Spirit took place. I believe the only tenable position is Greek Primacy, the Holy Spirit inspiried the text of the NT in Greek. That being the case, definitive word studies can only be done from the Greek.

[paulgem123]

@egwpisteuw Again you are proving my point of this video. Yes, I am is advocating Aramaic Primacy position. The Aramaic Orthodox church says it does. The three books that Andrew Gabriel Roth books Ruach Quadim and a free PDF on the site provided. You said there is no resources I am giving you resources. aramaicnttruthorg. It was not Greek and this is the whole problem. Get back to learning and unlearning then come back. You are wrong and your attitude to the Torah proves it.

[egwpisteuw]

@paulgem123 ----->Yes, I am is advocating Aramaic Primacy position. The Aramaic Orthodox church says it does.

That is probably a good topic for a video: Greek vs Aramaic Primacy. I put that in youtube and nothing comes up.

[paulgem123]

@egwpisteuw It is very hard to come up with content. aentorg has the most complete that I have seen also aramaictruthorg. They have done extensive work on this topic.

[egwpisteuw]

@paulgem123 I've been thinking more about the Aramaic Primacy theory and it is very troubling. If there is no agreement as to which original manuscripts are inspired, then there is no ability to have intelligent debate. Aramic primacy is held by a VERY small percentage of the church--truthfully, I had not even heard of it until a few years ago.

If you look at a typical graduate degree in Biblical languages, there is not even a requirement for a course in Syriac. And even if (cont)

[paulgem123]

@egwpisteuw Jerome (382 CE) "Mathew, who is also a Levi, and from the tax collector came to be an emissary first of all evangelist composed a Gospel of Messiah in Judea in the Hebrew language and letters, for the benefit of those of the circumcision who had believed, who translated it into Greek is not sufficiently ascertained. Furthermore, the Hebrew itself is preserved to this day in the library at Cesarea, which the martyr Pamphilus so diligently collected. cont.

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@egwpisteuw I also was allowed by the Nazarenes who use this volume in the Syrian city of Borea to copy it. In which it is to be remarked that , whereever the evangelist...makes use of the testimonies of the Old Scripture, he does not follow the authority of the seventy translators (AKA the Septuagint) but that of the Hebrew (Jerome, On Famous Men 3;5

[paulgem123]

@egwpisteuw It has been the biggest cover up ever. Why? Because it holds the keys to turn millions of peoples theological houses UP-SIDE-DOWN! The Orhtodax Jews wanted to destroy the writings of the Minim (Jews who believed on Yeshua of Nazareth) There are many fragmented clues and this is what I'm trying to put together and could use help. This is why I give the info so you can test it.

[paulgem123]

@egwpisteuw If you look at a typical graduate degree in Biblical languages, there is not even a requirement for a course in Syriac.

This is because of the hatred of anything Jewish. Do you see them having a course of Jewish History in the First Century? Do you see studies on the House of Shammai and House of Hillel even though Paul was from this thought process. Have you seen the video the Academy that I posted on my latest video Faces of Dogma, Doctrines, and Traditions of men?

[egwpisteuw]

@paulgem123 ---->This is because of the hatred of anything Jewish...

Not true. Hebrew is indeed required, and so is Biblical Aramaic. Courses in History would not be required for a degree in Biblical languages. The courses for a Master's in Biblical Languages break down into four categories: Greek (intensive), Hebrew (intensive), Biblical Aramaic (basic), Biblical Hermaneutics (the science of Bible interpretation), Septuagint.

[paulgem123]

@egwpisteuw Just cause a theological house of study teaches a certain way does not mean this way is 100% correct and does no need correcting. My video on the founder of the all Gentile church system covers this. Separation of Jewish theology and Greek Christian theology is evident and I am going to great lengths to present this point. Are you listening to the videos that I send or ignoring them. You asked for evidence. I am supplying it. and tying them together to make it easy.

[egwpisteuw]

@paulgem123 (cont) one does learn it, the analytical resources are simply not there to really drill into the text in the way that Hebrew OT and Greek NT resources are available.

I agree with the statement in the Deilitzsch Hebrew Gospels: "The Greek text remains the best, most original source we have" p. xiii

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@egwpisteuw Papias (ca.130 CE) "matthew composed his work in the Hebrew dialect, and each translated as best as they could" Eusebius. Ecclesiastical History, 3.39.

Irenaeus (170 CE) "Mathew also issued a written Gospel among the Hebrew in their own dialect" against Heresies 3.1

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@egwpisteuw Epiphanus (370 CE) They (the Nazarene's) have the Gospel according to Matthew quite complete in Hebrew, for this Gospel is certainly still preserved among them as it was the first written in Hebrew. Epipiphanus Panarion, 29,9,4

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@egwpisteuw This is agenda of Greek minded people but we should be after truth!

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@egwpisteuw If you spend time studying the Temple service you will see clearly to understand the book of Hebrews. It is all about Yeshua being the High Priest that is better that the Levite priest in that He never dies or needs to be replaced like the Levite priest who could only serve for a time.

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@egwpisteuw Aentorg Heb 7:12 But there is a change in the priesthood, so also is there a change in the instruction. (a change in the priestly line mean a change in the instruction to the priests) This is another reason Hebrew is required. In Hebrew the word Torah is better defined as instructions not law but in English a single word of law is always used. If we insert "instructions" in place of law when we read Psalms 119 it is very clear.

[paulgem123]

@paulgem123 The same thing happens with the word Gentile in English. In Hebrew there is a distinction. Goy =nations that do not keep the instructions of Torah and "Ger"(im) sojourners as in Number 15:14-16 those who want to be grafted in and keep the instruction given to Moses. Yeshua said in Matt 5:19 one will be great and one will be least in the Kingdom. You are proving that your faith is from Rome and the point of this video.

[paulgem123]

@egwpisteuw try finding the word tora alphabetically in your concordance. Don't look up the # just look alphabetically. The Hebrew thought process is completely opposite to Greek thought process this is where a lot of errors come from. If you don't own a aentorg Bible you need to the footnotes and appendixes are great.

[paulgem123]

@egwpisteuw This is why I don't belong to any church Messianic or other. I can't because as I have said on my channel comments "All sects of religion have dogma that is contrary to the original faith and must repent and come back to Torah, Prophets, and Writing as it's foundation" and stop adding and taking away and justifying it. To many people are on never ending rabbit trails when they should be learning Tanakh because this is the only scriptures that they had in the 1st Century.

[egwpisteuw]

@paulgem123 ---->This is why I don't belong to any church Messianic or other.

Then how do you keep Heb 10:28:

not forsaking our own assembling together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another; and all the more as you see the day drawing near.

You need to assemble and associate yourself with other believers in Messiah Yeshua--this is the meaning of baptism, we are to unequivocally identify ourselves with other members of the body of Messiah...

[paulgem123]

@egwpisteuw I had a group I fellowshipped with and we met weekly. now I have online service that I enjoy every Shabbat. I don't need a building of people who break the instructions and teach others to do it. Hebrews 10:28 I stand as one of the witnesses and Yeshua will execute judgment

Roman 12:19 Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," says the Lord.

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@egwpisteuw The main false understanding of a Greek minded person is thinking than when I say we should keep the Instructions of Moses they understand it as we should kill people and have to keep it perfectly. The Bible clearly show that none of the Patriachs or man of faith kept it perfectly. The point is the we try to keep what we can. There are some commandments that cannot be kept without a Temple, some are not even apllicable to us right now. This does not mean that we do away.

[egwpisteuw]

@paulgem123 (cont) and that is Premillenial, Pretribulational, Dispensational (Classical), and Free Grace. If you take a literal, grammatical, historical hermaneutic, i.e., reading the Bible in it's plain literal sense, this is the theological position that results.

[paulgem123]

Underneath the video are more links to investigate my claims. 

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If you have not seen my video House of Shammai and House of Hillel please do. This video ties in with that one. Shalom to all!

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Acts 11:26 And the disciples "were called" Chrisitans first in Antioch.

But did they call themselves Christians is the better question?

Acts 24:5 For we have found this man a pestilent fellow (speaking about Paul) and a mover of sedition among the world, and a ringleader of the sect of the Netzarim/Nazarenes.