Or 0 millivolts! Could it be that it is only the "electricity" which is measurable in all things? Try it again at night! And if it really work how much does a system cost that produces enough energy? Very expensive, metal is not cheap.
IN ORDER TO GET ELECTRICITY OUT OF THE THERMOCOUPLE, YOU MUST HEAT ONE END OF THE THERMOCOUPLE, INSTEAD OF THE WHOLE THING. YOUR EXPERIMENT WILL GENERATE MORE POWER IF YOU DO THIS.
@RHEAD100 What you say is true but how do I accomplish this with a set up like mine? I could put one end in a
bucket of ice but the ice would quickly melt. A refrigerator connection would use too much electricity. I could put one end in the shade but this does not result in a large enough temprature difference to increase the device's
@ToemanX HEY THIS IS MUDDy AGAIN. YES. THE WAY THESE WORK IS, THE TEMPERATURE DIFFERENCE FROM END TO END MAKE A CHARGE FLOW IN ONE DIRRECTION ON SOME MATERIALS, AND MORE IN OTHERS. AND EVEN IN THE OTHER DIRRECTION IN ANOTHER MATERIAL. SHADING ONE END WORKS PRETTY GOOD. AND ONLY HEATING THE END WILL GIVE YOU RESULTS. THIS IS BECAUSE THERE IS NO CHARGE DIFFERENCE IN A LENGTH OF WIRE THAT IS AT THE SAME TEMPERATURE. YOU SHOULD SEE .004 PER 70 DEGREES DIFFERENCE FROM END TO END.
@ToemanX Hay Toeman ; Sorry about the cunfusion. Muddy is a friend of mine. And we were looking at some of your vids together on my Putter. I am RHead100 (Boomer , Raymond Head.) ( MUDDY Is MUDDYMUDDYMUDDMAN on youtube (( Scott Brown)), There is not a LOT ABOUT ELECTRONICS muddy DOESNOT KNOW. aND LIKE ME , HE LOVES HELPING OTHERS WHEN HE CAN. You may want to check out his youtube site,
@ToemanX thanks for the vid bro, after introduced to the teg power devices, i was going to put a fresnel lens on one side, then on the cold side run a pipe from my towers water in my home to keep the plate constantly cool,
I dunno if someone else mentioned it, but the "secret" with thermo-electricity is the difference between the temperature on the connection points. One end where your wires of different materials connects should be as cold as possible, the other end hot (heated by your reflector). The larger the difference is the more current it will produce. Anyways, nice idea! :-)
I don't mean to potentially jump on what's already been said, but I have a thought - if you had a way to magnify and focus the reflected light - using parabolics or even a giant lens and more of the thermocoupled wires, could you generate a higher milivolt count?
@XeroJaeger Using a giant magnifying lens would generate a higher voltage. The trouble is it would also make the device significantly more complex and expensive. The attraction of the current device is its' cheap, simplicity - but unfortunately with a low output voltage.
@ToemanX Thanks for the feedback! I understand completely about the cost associated with an increase in complexity. I was just wondering if it was feasible assuming the cost was coverable.
@KBMemon Yes, I have looked into such engines. They show a lot of promise. In the future I hope to do more solar energy projects, including making such an engine myself.
@ToemanX I'm working on one too, I look forward to seeing yours :D
On the other hand, I had a thought about this design of yours, what if instead of the tube you used a parabolic mirror focusing onto a whole LOT of wires arranged perpendicularly which were then connected to the cold wires via an insulated channel, along with giving the cold wires a heat sink and a whole load of ice to help, maybe get more than a microvolt you think?
The idea of electricity without moving parts is irresistible
@KBMemon You have given some serious thought about how to improve my device. However, you should forget about it. It would take 1,000 of my devices to make one volt. If you doubled the efficiency of the device it would
still take 500 of them to make one volt. You should contiue to study solar energy but think about other kinds of
devices. Solar energy is the future. Good luck to you.
@ToemanX I agree wholeheartedly, all this energy just falling on the groud we should be able to use it!
I don't mean to beat a dead horse though, but needing 1000 of your devices to make a volt is exactly my point, how about you put a thousand of the wires onto one device, wouldn't it give you a volt then, and scaled up from there?
@Cyclisteatheart You have a good idea. Your idea would increase the amount of electricity produced - but by how much? The trouble is the solar thermocouple produces such a tiny amount to begin with. If you doubled or even quadrupled the amount produced you would still have a tiny amount of electricity. That is the bad thing about solar thermocouples.
It is only a thermal cause. Different wire combinations and different gages can be used.
The important thing is to get the wires as hot as possible. The hotter they are the more electricity they will produce. The reaction really only occurs in the hot afternoon sun in Southern Arizona. The heat of the morning sun is not hot enough.
Nice Video That You Share , So Very Nice Thanks You Solar Thermo Electricity
melisantika 4 weeks ago
@melisantika Glad you enjoyed it.
ToemanX 3 weeks ago
I Really Like The Video From Your Solar Thermo Electricity
Onepissite 4 weeks ago
Your Video Is Very Useful Sharing Simple way to make electricity from solar energy
pemburuiklan 4 weeks ago
Design fail.
MucusFelidae 3 months ago in playlist Weitere Videos von ToemanX
Or 0 millivolts! Could it be that it is only the "electricity" which is measurable in all things? Try it again at night! And if it really work how much does a system cost that produces enough energy? Very expensive, metal is not cheap.
traktorensteff 3 months ago
IN ORDER TO GET ELECTRICITY OUT OF THE THERMOCOUPLE, YOU MUST HEAT ONE END OF THE THERMOCOUPLE, INSTEAD OF THE WHOLE THING. YOUR EXPERIMENT WILL GENERATE MORE POWER IF YOU DO THIS.
MUDDy
RHEAD100 4 months ago
@RHEAD100 What you say is true but how do I accomplish this with a set up like mine? I could put one end in a
bucket of ice but the ice would quickly melt. A refrigerator connection would use too much electricity. I could put one end in the shade but this does not result in a large enough temprature difference to increase the device's
output much.
ToemanX 4 months ago
@ToemanX HEY THIS IS MUDDy AGAIN. YES. THE WAY THESE WORK IS, THE TEMPERATURE DIFFERENCE FROM END TO END MAKE A CHARGE FLOW IN ONE DIRRECTION ON SOME MATERIALS, AND MORE IN OTHERS. AND EVEN IN THE OTHER DIRRECTION IN ANOTHER MATERIAL. SHADING ONE END WORKS PRETTY GOOD. AND ONLY HEATING THE END WILL GIVE YOU RESULTS. THIS IS BECAUSE THERE IS NO CHARGE DIFFERENCE IN A LENGTH OF WIRE THAT IS AT THE SAME TEMPERATURE. YOU SHOULD SEE .004 PER 70 DEGREES DIFFERENCE FROM END TO END.
MUDDy
RHEAD100 4 months ago
@RHEAD100 (1) First of all, is RHEAD100 and MUDDy the same person? (2) I will soon try to remake this
device based on your suggestions.
ToemanX 4 months ago
@ToemanX Hay Toeman ; Sorry about the cunfusion. Muddy is a friend of mine. And we were looking at some of your vids together on my Putter. I am RHead100 (Boomer , Raymond Head.) ( MUDDY Is MUDDYMUDDYMUDDMAN on youtube (( Scott Brown)), There is not a LOT ABOUT ELECTRONICS muddy DOESNOT KNOW. aND LIKE ME , HE LOVES HELPING OTHERS WHEN HE CAN. You may want to check out his youtube site,
RHEAD100 4 months ago
@ToemanX thanks for the vid bro, after introduced to the teg power devices, i was going to put a fresnel lens on one side, then on the cold side run a pipe from my towers water in my home to keep the plate constantly cool,
PayWithLawv 1 week ago
I dunno if someone else mentioned it, but the "secret" with thermo-electricity is the difference between the temperature on the connection points. One end where your wires of different materials connects should be as cold as possible, the other end hot (heated by your reflector). The larger the difference is the more current it will produce. Anyways, nice idea! :-)
petevanpolaris 4 months ago
...interesting...
paulpellicci 4 months ago
I don't mean to potentially jump on what's already been said, but I have a thought - if you had a way to magnify and focus the reflected light - using parabolics or even a giant lens and more of the thermocoupled wires, could you generate a higher milivolt count?
XeroJaeger 4 months ago
@XeroJaeger Using a giant magnifying lens would generate a higher voltage. The trouble is it would also make the device significantly more complex and expensive. The attraction of the current device is its' cheap, simplicity - but unfortunately with a low output voltage.
ToemanX 4 months ago
@ToemanX Thanks for the feedback! I understand completely about the cost associated with an increase in complexity. I was just wondering if it was feasible assuming the cost was coverable.
XeroJaeger 4 months ago
@XeroJaeger What you suggest is entirely feasible but is it cost effective? That is the trouble with many
of these alternative sources of energy - they are too expensive currently. I have already used a magnifying
glass with a thermocouple to generate electricity (see my "Tiny Solar Energy" video.) You could use large
number of magnifying glasses to generate practical amounts of electricity in theory. However, it would be
cheaper to use photovoltaic cells more so the power grid.
ToemanX 4 months ago
Nice stuff :] Have you looked in solar heated stirling/rankine engines?
KBMemon 7 months ago
@KBMemon Yes, I have looked into such engines. They show a lot of promise. In the future I hope to do more solar energy projects, including making such an engine myself.
ToemanX 7 months ago
@ToemanX I'm working on one too, I look forward to seeing yours :D
On the other hand, I had a thought about this design of yours, what if instead of the tube you used a parabolic mirror focusing onto a whole LOT of wires arranged perpendicularly which were then connected to the cold wires via an insulated channel, along with giving the cold wires a heat sink and a whole load of ice to help, maybe get more than a microvolt you think?
The idea of electricity without moving parts is irresistible
KBMemon 7 months ago
@KBMemon You have given some serious thought about how to improve my device. However, you should forget about it. It would take 1,000 of my devices to make one volt. If you doubled the efficiency of the device it would
still take 500 of them to make one volt. You should contiue to study solar energy but think about other kinds of
devices. Solar energy is the future. Good luck to you.
ToemanX 7 months ago
@ToemanX I agree wholeheartedly, all this energy just falling on the groud we should be able to use it!
I don't mean to beat a dead horse though, but needing 1000 of your devices to make a volt is exactly my point, how about you put a thousand of the wires onto one device, wouldn't it give you a volt then, and scaled up from there?
KBMemon 7 months ago
@KBMemon There are 2 problems with your idea: (1) With 1,000 wires most would not be at the focal point of the
reflector, so it is like there is no reflector. (2) With 1,000 wires across the face of device, the size of mine, would
block out a significant amount of sunlight from the reflector. You can only have a few wires across the face
of a reflector. You are frustrated my device seems like a good idea at "first glance" but further
study shows it is not an efficient source of energy.
ToemanX 7 months ago
@ToemanX Sigh :[
KBMemon 7 months ago
I think that the temperature you generated in that foil concentrator was very low.
there has to be a better way ..
like putting it on some heated glass plate.. and plot the temp and voltage.
josephdupont 1 year ago
@josephdupont Using a better reflector and a glass cover would almost certainly increase the current
generated but not by much. If you want a large amount of practical electricity you would have to cover
a very large area with wires and reflectors.
ToemanX 1 year ago
A vertical shaft-a basic box with a glass face.construct the box with material such as stone(thermal mass)
Cyclisteatheart 1 year ago
@Cyclisteatheart You have a good idea. Your idea would increase the amount of electricity produced - but by how much? The trouble is the solar thermocouple produces such a tiny amount to begin with. If you doubled or even quadrupled the amount produced you would still have a tiny amount of electricity. That is the bad thing about solar thermocouples.
ToemanX 1 year ago
For a heat source you can create a convection current.a vertical shaft angled according to you latitude (30'angle)
Cyclisteatheart 1 year ago
would this work submerged in water?
LiquidChem 1 year ago
@LiquidChem It might work if the water was boiling. In a thermocouple a heat source
causes free electrons to jump from one type of metal to another type of metal. This
"jumping" causes an electrical current. In theory any heat source can be used. In
reality doing it in water may have bad side effects. The electrical current could be carried off in all directions by the water.
ToemanX 1 year ago
It is only a thermal cause. Different wire combinations and different gages can be used.
The important thing is to get the wires as hot as possible. The hotter they are the more electricity they will produce. The reaction really only occurs in the hot afternoon sun in Southern Arizona. The heat of the morning sun is not hot enough.
ToemanX 1 year ago
W O W ::: That is sharp. I like it. Is it truly thermal, or photovoltaic. Or a little of both.
And is the gage of wire important.
RHEAD100 1 year ago