Meta Knight is not broken. Stop saying he is.

[spookythelavadragon]

Thank u dude I also think Metaknight isn't broken. Metaknight is fast but his attacks arn't very

powerful

[MasterKnightDH]

@spookythelavadragon

I'm hearing Meta Knight can actually just plain kill with any move, but that's if he even gets the chance. Even Tornado is asking to become an open target against counterattack.

[mrgerminaro]

tiers r 4 queers plain and simple only player i admit to having a problem with is pit and chain grabbin sucks and yes toon link down atk sucks if metaknight is overpowered so is pit mister i can fly and hav 2 deflectors and a stupid bow with limited control capabilitys the arrow spammin isnt bad in evading but the arrows knock u into the air like SHOOT ME O.O i dont even play online cuz of the whining and da shields on the links block samuses charge beam and superscope shots if he holds still

[ssbbfan61]

I don't think Meta Knight is broken. Sure, all characters haven't the same moveset, but all characters are good and aren't broken. It all depends on the player.

[Giratina4857]

Meta Knight isn't banned in here :P we get to use him but i wonder why you people keep saying that Meta Knight is banned >_> Meta Knight ISN'T THE PROBLEM PEOPLE,It's you the damn player that doesn't play right with him,respect the people that doesn't want none of the characters banned >:O (ok i like defending stuff okies and i am not insulting you MasterKnightDH) :P

[smashingspiritomb]

Y the heck did they ban metaknight he was ma fav charecter!

[MasterKnightDH]

@smashingspiritomb

Because players don't know how to be genuinely creative.

[MoonlakeStar]

If MetaKnight IS broken, then so is Ike and Falco.

Seriously, the Brawl tier list is so unrealistic. Most people's best character is Ike. How is Ike ranked 29? And Bowser actually 2 spots higher?

My guess is lame players wanna feel good about using Ike, and so one of those types of people put Ike in a very low tier rank to make themselves feel "pro".

God damnit, put Ike 1 spot below MetaKnight. It'd be fun to hear all the noobs bitch about that!

[JexMugen]

@MoonlakeStar tier list don't mean shit on this game nor in any other fighting games,instead of tier they should call it "FANBOY" list!

[MasterKnightDH]

@MoonlakeStar

Ike is useable, I'll agree there, but he has VERY blatant speed problems.

Falco, though, is ridiculous indeed. Ridiculous range kick reflector, what the hell is that shit? He just answers EVERY God damned range for too much effectiveness, before you even throw in short-hop double laser, chain-grabbing, laser lock, you name it.

[MoonlakeStar]

@MasterKnightDH I'll change what I originally said anyways. Most of these Ike users, as it turns out, play ALOT of Brawl. I hold a grudge over them because they taunt so much though.

Falco is naggingly annoying. Especially since I'm such a fan of .5 gravity ratios and how chain grabbing ruins my fun. Likewise, Falco users are usually as cocky as Ikes. I must say, Falco is indeed more powerful than Ike.

If Metaknight was banned for being able to chaingrab, then so should Falco.

[MasterKnightDH]

@MoonlakeStar

Meta Knight isn't banned for any chaingrab shenanigans, he's banned for being a wake up call for the Stop Having Fun Guys, who are so busy making a metagame where "don't get hit" is somehow good advice that they don't learn how to tank, and lo and behold, Meta Knight has an incredible mix of accuracy and evasion.

And you're not the only one who finds chaingrabbing dumb, that's for sure.

[MrCrazyToad]

@MoonlakeStar I''m just asking this, does that mean Diddy isn't really worthy of number 2? I'm not saying he is, it's just I depend on the tier for seeing who's good in Brawl(because I don't have the game myself)

[MasterKnightDH]

@MrCrazyToad

There are some legitimate imbalances (although I'm not sure about Diddy), but that doesn't mean you should be relying on tiers. It's better to think up creative ways to fight rather than try to see who uses a specific character the best.

[ohHELLyeah147]

@MasterKnightDH ike is da best that's it, but if they do the eather thingy the whole time they suck, just like falco's down grab thing, it's cheap and i can't stand kirby and toon link down attack grr xD

but anyway I ALWAYS play as ike and in my opinion he's the best, he is slow but you can do some good combo's with him (and I win 90% of the online matches)

[GeassLF08]

@MasterKnightDH I dont believe in the tiers at all to be honest. I think knowing how to use a character is what makes them good. As for Ike's speed issues, they can be overcome by utilizing short hops to make his aerials, which are his fast moves, virtually ground moves. But im not saying Ike is the best either, i just wish ppl would quit saying some characters are unusable and some are unbeatable. I think its just easy for ppl to use MK effectively, alot harder to learn a character like ganon.

[MasterKnightDH]

@GeassLF08

I do honestly wish the game didn't have aggravating imbalances.

Still, I can be sure Meta Knight is far from unbeatable. His tornado makes him an open target if you counterattack correctly, for starters.

[cleonumber1]

atleast tornado doesn't reflect items like pits "ayayayayaya" attack.... and he might have lots of recovery but he flies far when hit. and idk where people get his attacks have high priority almost every time i use up b and someone else hits me im the one that gets hit. but oh yea mk is awesome

[MasterKnightDH]

@cleonumber1

I will grant that his attacks do have high priority--just his jab does. But he lacks projectiles, major important strengths, or ability to deal with good tanking.

[Guitarmaster7272]

You're right, the only broken character there is, is snake ;)

All kidding aside, I don't see metaknight as broken... in fact, i don't even see him on top of the tier list. imo, the top 5 should be 1. Snake 2. Fox 3. Marth 4. MK 5. G&watch. MK may have speed and the infamous downsmash, but his lack of power makes him not broken. I do believe snake is cheap (but not broken) though, mostly cuz his tilts activate damn near instantly and can KO at as little as 110%

[Dragonzphoenix]

Not broken, just the player.....

[TeamMachinaGottoms]

Yes stick up for him he did not dezerve to be banned metaknight metaknight metaknight

[MasterKnightDH]

@TeamMachinaGottoms

Meta Knight eats Stop Having Fun Guys for breakfast, lunch, dinner, and even desert.

[miciso666]

mk isnt broken link pit and sometimes ike own my ass so im forced to repick a char ussually however meta and link can be a beast team in boss mode :3 played with a friend downed alot of bosses

[MasterKnightDH]

@miciso666

The player who beats you with those 3 is synergetic enough with them, I'm guessing? Of course, that is supposed to be a useful skill either way.

[kirbycupcake]

YEAH someone else who sticks up for him!!!!He's not broken...

[MasterKnightDH]

Video to watch, non-believers:

watch?v=LCsDjbus0s4

Now shut up.

[MrCHUBBS313]

he ain't broken you all just suck!!!

[MasterKnightDH]

@MrCHUBBS313

At best, they're just arrogant. They think C-Sticking isn't somehow broken. I've proven otherwise.

[NarutoDarkAvenger0]

mk isnt broken his d-smash is very predictable

his nado can be contered

his shuttle loop is predictable but very dangerous

[MasterKnightDH]

To anybody who would persist in saying Meta Knight is somehow broken...

Me: *selects Link* *shells your Meta Knights with projectiles* *hammers them with superior melee range when they try to get close* *pwns them with Link's Up B* Good game.

[shadowyoda9000]

I dont see why meta knight is broken i see the star fox characters that are more fast and cheap then meta knight

[MasterKnightDH]

@shadowyoda9000

Especially Fuck-O.

[ShadeTheHedgehogX]

What does peoaple mean with his broken!!

[MasterKnightDH]

@ShadeTheHedgehogX

It means people think he can't be beaten by balanced (fair) characters. To the people who think so, lrn2cmp

[twilitprincess]

THANK YOU! Meta Knight is not broken...he has his strengths and weaknesses just like anyone else. The videos I've seen where people say he's "broken" is just some idiot who is spamming like crazy, trying to prove a point that far too many people have accepted. Honestly, the point of the game is to have fun, who cares if you lose (unless you have no life and it's THAT important to you.) Besides Meta Knight is pretty bad*** while being adorable at the same time...how could someone not love him?

[Flashstar54]

@twilitprincess finally, someone that agrees with me that the point of the game is to just have fun and who cares if you lose! i definetely agree. i don't give a rat's ass about winning or losing... unlike some of the jerks i know who say it's not just a game, it's a fight! but they had more experience. what did they expect? and i love meta knight. meta knight foREVer!

[MasterKnightDH]

@Flashstar54

I do allow language in comments, so you don't have to worry about that.

[Flashstar54]

@MasterKnightDH h, thanks... well, i was a bit out of it at the time xP

[TheEliteNerd]

Lol it`s funny how people whine about other people using metaknight. Lol everybody who says he is a spammer and such is just a noob that lost a tourney against someone using metaknight :P

[kokosnootful]

well i would be metaknight if i unlocked him and all others

[MasterKnightDH]

@kokosnootful

So would everybody else, pretty much. They want to be on top of the world, but in fact they're actually just children in adult bodies.

[connorthegreatgamer]

ok i agree with u masterknightdh metaknight has high potential as a fighter he just needs alot of damage to get a ko! (i just noticed i sounded like a total and utter geek)

[marioandsonicrule213]

meta knight is not broken the poeple who say that just s*ck and happen to lose from meta knight because they s*ck

[Fercho210991]

ok he is not broken, but he still spammer and gay

notice that everybody who plays with metaknight says that he is not broken

[MasterKnightDH]

@Fercho210991

Except I play AGAINST Meta Knights too. Meta Knight isn't even one of my mains.

[infernothehedgehog3]

God, finally someone who understands me! I've been saying this people all day! MK IS NOT BROKEN HES JUST EASY TO USE WHICH IS WHY PPL LIKE USING HIM SO MUCH. HE CAN BE KILLED EASILY (Not saying he's bad, though)

[infernothehedgehog3]

@Gahsu MK is not broken. I've said this to people who say that MK is broken, and I'll say this again. (I'm gonna get a lot of hate messages for those.) It's because MK is easy to use, which is why everyone is good with him. ITS THE PLAYER, NOT THE CHARACTER.

[Monstring]

i dont see why ppl say that meta knight is broken all his attacks can be countered easily

[Zero2570]

He's not broken all the people who say he his have no skill and got beat by a better player hell anyone can beat metaknight they just need skill

"there are no sucky characters only sucky players"

[ShinMarukuOmega]

Characters are only as cheap as you play them. Every gamer should know that. Some characters are just easier to exploit, is all.

[HellbladesFFXI]

Metaknight? Broken? Far from it. He's just a charactor that's easy to use, so EVERYONE can pick him up and start fighting as him. Same with Sonic, though Sonic's more of a fail cause he SDs far more than MK would. A good MK is strong, but a good ANYONE is strong. MK's only bonus over others is his speed.

[Gabbaknight]

there are even three (metaknight is broken) vids in here! they post the same shit over and over again

[Gabbaknight]

ah finaly i found someone who thinks MK isn,t broken!

[ihatemylife3333]

i dont think i know he isn't broken

[XTCiswhatIneed]

agree :O

[laughingfurry]

@MarioLinkGenofan

As someone who used to be highly competitive with all fighting games, I will tell you straight forward that you're mistaken. There is no casual level or tourney level, as I actually know of casual players who are equal to tourney players in skill. High level play is about how well the players know the engine, how well the players know the characters, the players' mindset, and the players' reflexes. MK has as many weeknesses as other characters, so he can't be broken.

[esr0na4u]

for all of you who dont seem to comprehend the term broken means, a charcter can do something that shuodnt happen in the game meaning he/she wasnt ment to do it, mks recoverys wernt ment to be that way, that cape glitch doesnt make mk broken but its just a glitch. snakes hits are just as ikes hit becouse there in the same category, heavy chars, everything else is just a person being crafty with bombs with snake, ill admit, it takes 0 skill to learn mk but it takes more skil to main him.

[PenguinBrosStudios]

@MarioLinkGenofan We aren't all M2k. Just because he is that good does not mean MK is broken.

Meta Knight is powerful not broken.

Snake is broken though.

[MasterKnightDH]

Snake is a Lethal Joke Character who catches people off guard because fighting a competent one is more a battle of wits than anything. I doubt he's outright broken.

But yeah. Meta Knight isn't broken. Powerful, maybe, but far from broken. And anybody who thinks they can say my playstyle doesn't suit him doesn't realize that my playstyle probably wouldn't suit Sensei or Grit in Advance Wars, and I agree that those two ARE broken.

[PenguinBrosStudios]

MK isnt broken. Its the player.

[Giratina4857]

@PenguinBrosStudios i admit but your right :)

[connor348]

i dont like to use mk i like to train for a week not a train at all :P

[WaterDumple]

Indeed. Caulder is meant to be overpowered because he's basically the "Boss" on the last mission; you work around him rather than fight him. And you get 40 something fund-producing assets anyway, discounting the fact that you can cap some more.

Pretty good video. Obviously, it's hard to prove something like this as you'd have to break it down into numbers and mechanics, but this is pretty convincing regardless.

[MasterKnightDH]

And people, don't even dare bring up tournaments. They abuse Guide Dang It exploits to no end. It's stupid to say the least.

[cjszero01]

In the right hands any Smash character is deadly. It actually took me a while to get used to Metaknight and I could handle Wolf, Lucario, and Sonic faster than I could with Metaknight.

[MasterKnightDH]

That's it. Anybody who further flames my spacing gets automatically blocked. It was not terrible in the least, and I have reviewed the fight. There were a few mistakes here and there, but they had nothing to do with my general spacing.

[Threadnaught]

There is a single exclusion however, if someone uses Pit be prepared to quit if they start spamming the standing B move.

Unless of course you're able to reflect or absorb the constant barrage of arrows.

And no, saying this dos not make me a hypocrite, Pit unlike most of the other characters really is broken and even in the hands of a lesser skilled player can take out a high level professional Fox player with all the high powered spammable moves.

[RunsWithScissors61]

People having trouble with Pit's arrow spam should really look into finding new controllers. I sympathize, after all, I don't think I'd be able to play well without shoulder buttons on my GC controller either.

[MasterKnightDH]

It turned out Pit is a Skill Gate Character. Of course, he's a particularly annoying example of such. >_>

[Threadnaught]

"I play bad, therefore he's not broken" doesn't cut it.

What is that?

MKDH is a good player, in the hands of a n00b a broken character is hard for a competant player to survive a meaningful leangth of time, if that broken character is in the hands of a competant player, well they should be almost unstoppable.

Most people say MK is broken because they refuse to believe they can be beaten otherwise, if you don't like it when someone uses a certain character then play something else.

[MasterKnightDH]

"Your overall spacing was poor."

At this point, you're just making up stupid stuff. Meta Knight is too slow for somebody who can apparently gimp.

Goodbye.

[qzecwx]

On one hand, MK's gimping game is so much better than Link's it's laughable. On the other hand, Link's recovery is so bad, one well-timed edge grab can often kill it, so why bother going out to him and risk taking unnecessary damage, right?

Also, spacing is a very real aspect of competitive Brawl. Basically, it entails that characters with disjointed hitboxes (swords), perform best when they're just far enough away from the opponent that they can't reach you but your sword can reach them.

[MasterKnightDH]

I got the whole idea of spacing down. It utterly destroys Snake because he relies on close and long range abuse, but his life gets miserable against mid-range combatants, especially cautious ones.

[Ephraim225]

FYI, he didn't spam neutral B or down smashes like a Meta Kn00b would. Master Knight DH is a very good player, so no flaming him.

[KAsevenfive]

While I agree flames aren't the best way to approach this. He really isn't a good player...

Not spamming nB and Dsmash is pretty meaningless when the replacement strategy he was using was just as bad if not worse.

[MasterKnightDH]

And you can come up with better? Actually, if you're just going to say "needz moar momentum cancel", don't bother. ATs are just overcomplicated exploits.

[Threadnaught]

I knew my Meta Knight was good, however you both look like you're doing what you're supposed to when playing this game.

Having fun, yeah the tiertards must've begun to mistake that for a certain four lettered "F" word.

[MasterKnightDH]

My favorite part is that girls even find them instead of me "attractive" enough to give them what the "F" word basically means. No, really. It's wonderful that girls basically give everything to the FREAKING GARBAGE!

[1ksxam]

Have to Agree with you. He Is not broken.

[MasterKnightDH]

*Thank you*! Finally somebody makes a positive comment.