all people is not equal under the communism china,most of people is so poor,but major communist has so many privilege,car house food etc etc,,,,,,major communist in china just want to keep those privilege,so that why they killed historical amount of their citizen,its typical characteristic of communism,communist kill their against people without any permission necessary,china is perfectly lawless zone,chinese communist party killed historical amount of people for keep major communist`s privilege
This over two hour 9/11 account.. is not like all of the other footage from that day.. 'Tuesday Morning in September': It is what 9/11 was to many, outside the first ring at Ground Zero. It is in reverence to those who perished, and respectful to those who lost their loved ones on that paradigm shifting tragic day. It is the retrospection that is needed for our time.
@Nascarking24 They mean just that, IGS. IGS =Instrument Guidence System, a modified ILS. The checkerboard on the left side of the mountain was the point where you made a right-hand turn to the final for runway 13. ILS is a straight in approach.
it's important people remember that the only reason pilots fly aircraft is to transport passengers or cargo. thats the purphouse of them flying the airplane. It soon becomes routine landing & taking off again and again. it's little more than public transport using an flying machine. the flying may be fun but you have to question the reasons you are doing it. Pilot who fly for 30 years miss out alot of stuff going on down on the ground as they are stuck up there with a limited view
@Singaporepunjaban they are talking about the ILS - Instrument Landing System. ILS projects the "glideslope" from the runway threshold. ILS has the optimal vertical descent speed to reach the runway once the "localizer is intercepted" and at :30 you here them anounce "Glideslope". The ILS also keeps the plane centered with the runway.
An ILS has a localizer and glideslope and takes you aligned straight in to the runway all the way down to a position from which you can land. This approach is an ILS to the checkerboard on the hill, but then you must have the field in sight to make the turn visually to align with the runway. It does not take you straight in to the runway and requires visual maneuvering so it is not called an ILS. Switzerland has some IGS approaches.
When you cant see the runway you cannot land and must fly the missed approach procedure that is on the chart. One of the reasons why they replaced Kai-Tak with an airport with straight-in approaches whichs allows landings in lower weather minimums and Cat 3 approaches, including autoland- just like any other major airport in the world (besides the old Kai Tak)!
Not only are they landing in the middle of a huge city. The winds generated around the airport makes the plane feel like a car ride with one wheel missing. I literaly felt the plane drop 25' to the tarmac. What a horrible place.
qwerty3862: The mountains dictate how the wind flows over the land. I don't live in HK (yet), but I believe HK is in monsoon territory. Every year, the wind goes in one direction, and then reverses itself - but of course, you'll be a fool to fly through a monsoon. Landing on Kai Tak was like landing on an aircraft carrier - very hazardous.
my grandad flew here in 1966 when he was in the navy, no big commercial jet liners then, he flew on a eagle air plane which only had 4 proppelers! imagin a 100mph trip all the way from the UK the Hong Kong
It used to be known as the Kai Tak Heart Attack for a very good reason. And did I hear those wind speed checks correct? 100/10 on approach end then 090/19 at midfield? I'm not a pilot, but that's still a 10 kt gain. Shouldn't that have kicked off the windshear warnings? I am not an airline pilot (though I have flown the spam cans).
I would say it means Speed above Vref (calculated approach speed)ie. Vref+50 knots and Barometric Altitude ie. 900ft (im assuming that it would be the height above sea level as the high buildings below would obscure radio altimeter readings) but dont take my word for it i am just speculating
With 19 years flying and 8 years as an international airline Captain let me clear this up. They are flying the Boeing 747-400 for Cathy Pacific. The Captain is at the controls as the F.O. (First Officer) assists quite well. The calls in question are Vref and RA (speed above final ref, and radar altimeter) plus 15 is the correct speed for full bank maneuvering of the 747-400 on this type of approach and the RA calls are routine. "plus 15..1000 = ref + 15 and 1000 feet above the ground.
haha..sorry, I'm not a Cathay pilot and not familiar with their SOP's. Upon second view, I realized that the 2nd call is VS (vertical speed) ie. "plus 15...900" means 15 KTAS above Vref and 900fpm. These calls allow the Captain to remain visually focused outside on the terrain and visual glide path. The Captain already knows the VS for the glide path for current barometric, temperature and wind conditions on the approach...the Captain can make slight adjustments to VS to track glide path
@rjp12739 It sounds as though the second call out is in fact rate of decent rather than RA. Many operators use this technique as it so closely relates to the "stabilized approach concept." At around 1:40 when the jet is over the approach lights and the "Plus 15, 900" is called the aircraft far lower than 900 feet AGL.
@xMochi812x Yes, as long as your vision can be corrected to 20/20 with either glasses or contacts :P Hope you get in the air! Nothing better than flying!
@rjp12739 Then you should know that it was not the 400 series 747. They have 6' high wingletts on their wings. It was a 300 series as one can tell by the number of windows and length of the upper deck. Try again, flight sim pilot. LOL
@sklarich1 Sorry to burst your bubble, but rjp12739 is right. It's a 747-400, given by the fact that it has winglets, it has a -400 cockpit and I do not see a FE as well.
solomon: I think you may be referring to RWY 31R or 31L approach in Bogotá (SKBO) isnt'it? Beacause 13R or 13L approach are easy ones (of course if you respect your 12' minimums) :D
During this visual portion it is imperative that the correct visual cue with the surface is carefully maintained, making reference to aeronautical ground lights where appropriate, In view of the local terrain and the IGS being offset from runway, operators intending to use the IGS must ensure, for flight safety reasons, that their pilots are fully conversant with, and have adequate practice in, published procedures.
"GAY?!?" Are you 12? 16 at the most? TomTom2898 is using professional language to describe a technically challenging approach. Maybe you should stick to your X-Box 360, or whatever gay forms of entertainment are not so boring?
This is Youtube, not a reference/procedural manual. He said something completely obvious and simple in a overly complicated way, his comment did not bear any implication.
And actually, I know more about planes than you might think. I do not play 360 games...
OK...I take your point...and I believe you about not playing X-box. My point was that TomTom2898 spelled out some technical procedures that some might find useful...for those who already know, they are free to overlook it.
Just because this is YouTube does not, I feel, mean that all comments should be "dumbed down." YouTube can be a good place to learn, and frankly, I'd rather have too much technical information that too little. Some want just the video while others find the tech info useful.
Yeah the PMDG 737NG and the 747-400 series are quite amazing in terms of realism, and just released by Fly Tampa, I recommend the Fly Tampa Kai Tak scenery. It's simply awesome ;)
the idear with Kai Tak wass the hil there was red and white. You fly so close you can on it and when the 2nd pilot started to be nervous you make the final turn and line the aircraft up. If you diden line the aircraft up at the right time you will land wrong
It's like ILS except it does not guide you to the runway.
At Kai Tak there is a sharp right turn onto the final.
The turn takes place at around 600agl which lines you up with the runway.
The IGS guides you to a checkerboard on a hill, double flashing lights on the ground, at which point the autothrottle is disengaged and the plane is banked sharply to the right for a landing.
Thats when pilots cant let the autopilot do it, they have to land the plane by themselves, and on this airport.. it can be extremely diffcult. IGS is very spectaculare, and I know only about one airport who has it, Toncontin in Honduras. Just search at youtube
I like the video. As far as the reason why the visuals don't match could be because of the editing job. Editing a video is not easy even for the pros(although computers probably make it somewhat easier nowadays).
If one overshoots the runway then where is it heading to? Some buildings or Water? There's that TAM accident we can all learn from. But somewhere in Nepal the planes land precariously toward a mountain wall. Look it up on YT.
@twisterwiper: actually another reason was noise protection. a landing airplane produces less noise than a starting one. another reason was that coming in from south east (waterside) would have resulted in having to turn in on glideslope over hk island.
main reason surely was security in case of problems. overshooting the runway into the water = way better than running into residential area.
"Heavy" is added to the call sign of very large airliners such as a 747, 777, 767 and A340, MD11 etc, etc. The reason is that they have huge vortexes that can toss around other planes. So in effect you want to stay well back of a "Heavy" and out of it's prop wash or you could be tossed around violently. It is a consideration that approaches, the tower and other airliners needs to be aware of... so the call sign "Heavy" is appended.
I imagine that living anywhere near Kai Tak was a flight-spotter's paradise. But I have to wonder if some of the people living in those apartments(that's what they're called here in the US) are glad now not to have so much aircraft noise.
Combination of noise abatement demands and the airport not being able to handle the demand requests of the airlines, which included modern facilities and additional runways.
The colors of the outside view and the inside view don't match. The outside view 747 has new Cathay Pacific colors and is a 747-200. The inside view 747 has old color (the paint job that I like) and is a 747-400 (you could tell by the winglet). Now the streets of Kowloon Hong Kong is too quiet...
Landed there many times when I was a kid mid-end 1960's. Always in Boeing 707s. Used to take ages to get there from London. It wasa good plane and the pilots were good too!
It was pretty cool landing at Kai Tak back in the day. You'd be flying over a sea of what seemed like endless flats with clothes drying outside windows and then the plane would suddenly drop onto the runway. The new airport is neat in itself by its design, but nothing compares to what Kai Tak was like.
you misunderstood. that guy who originally posted stated that the airline is cathay pacific, not cathay. i was just noting that its callsign was CPA641H. I might have misunderstood to begin with, but that was my intention when I wrote it. As for the "heavy", since a 747-400 has a empty weight of nearly 400,000 lbs I knew that it was added for that purpose.
I wonder why this video is on BBC World ??
darkmensch 2 months ago
"Gear down please. Auto throttle coming out. Balls steeled"
AndroidGeeek 6 months ago
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all people is not equal under the communism china,most of people is so poor,but major communist has so many privilege,car house food etc etc,,,,,,major communist in china just want to keep those privilege,so that why they killed historical amount of their citizen,its typical characteristic of communism,communist kill their against people without any permission necessary,china is perfectly lawless zone,chinese communist party killed historical amount of people for keep major communist`s privilege
77777XYZ 6 months ago
хд...крутячок))
kidrauhl994 10 months ago
20 people cannot land a boeing 747
aval1998 10 months ago 5
tusmorninginsept911 10 months ago
the alarms sound like a cheesy 80s arcade game lol
hod05 1 year ago
i dont understand in the cockpit its a 747-400 wingview is it 747-400 but outside is it a 747-200?
MrAckebo1 1 year ago
this pilots got an aussie accent!
DaFSXLegend747 1 year ago
new livery is much better! :)
ProductionJack 1 year ago
IGS? dont they mean ILS and HOLY SHIT they are flying low over that soccer field thats like 100 or 200 feet!!!
Nascarking24 1 year ago
@Nascarking24 They mean just that, IGS. IGS =Instrument Guidence System, a modified ILS. The checkerboard on the left side of the mountain was the point where you made a right-hand turn to the final for runway 13. ILS is a straight in approach.
gb1227 1 year ago
This is a nice little video. It's just too bad the video quality sucks so bad. Really detracts.
crashsitetube 1 year ago 2
it's important people remember that the only reason pilots fly aircraft is to transport passengers or cargo. thats the purphouse of them flying the airplane. It soon becomes routine landing & taking off again and again. it's little more than public transport using an flying machine. the flying may be fun but you have to question the reasons you are doing it. Pilot who fly for 30 years miss out alot of stuff going on down on the ground as they are stuck up there with a limited view
1982FMJ 1 year ago
what is the BBC thing called?
yisasakopaka 1 year ago
1:28 any lower and it will crash into the buildings :o
SaradominNUB 1 year ago
Excellent vid! But what does IGS stand and used for?
Singaporepunjaban 2 years ago
@Singaporepunjaban they are talking about the ILS - Instrument Landing System. ILS projects the "glideslope" from the runway threshold. ILS has the optimal vertical descent speed to reach the runway once the "localizer is intercepted" and at :30 you here them anounce "Glideslope". The ILS also keeps the plane centered with the runway.
shag911 1 year ago
An ILS has a localizer and glideslope and takes you aligned straight in to the runway all the way down to a position from which you can land. This approach is an ILS to the checkerboard on the hill, but then you must have the field in sight to make the turn visually to align with the runway. It does not take you straight in to the runway and requires visual maneuvering so it is not called an ILS. Switzerland has some IGS approaches.
StratMatt777 1 year ago
I see. Thanks. But what happens when visibility is poor and you can't see the runway? Or when the ILS is a Cat 2 or 3 approach?
Singaporepunjaban 1 year ago
When you cant see the runway you cannot land and must fly the missed approach procedure that is on the chart. One of the reasons why they replaced Kai-Tak with an airport with straight-in approaches whichs allows landings in lower weather minimums and Cat 3 approaches, including autoland- just like any other major airport in the world (besides the old Kai Tak)!
StratMatt777 1 year ago
AWESOME!!!!!
c2td0gt6 2 years ago
Not only are they landing in the middle of a huge city. The winds generated around the airport makes the plane feel like a car ride with one wheel missing. I literaly felt the plane drop 25' to the tarmac. What a horrible place.
KevinFL 2 years ago
qwerty3862: The mountains dictate how the wind flows over the land. I don't live in HK (yet), but I believe HK is in monsoon territory. Every year, the wind goes in one direction, and then reverses itself - but of course, you'll be a fool to fly through a monsoon. Landing on Kai Tak was like landing on an aircraft carrier - very hazardous.
OnePeopleOneChina 2 years ago
OnePersonOneChina, OneTeacherGoodEnglish
EstateRavePosse 1 year ago
I don't get why so many cities have airports plonked right in the middle of them. It's ilogical.
2491cc 2 years ago
the airport wasnt placed in the middle of the city, its just that over time the city grows around the airport
josenar145 2 years ago 21
I agree with josenah145, Id say the city was built around the airport over time
StraightNoChaser86 2 years ago 2
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liamr685 2 years ago
@2491cc Hong Kong's a very crowded city by itself... Space constraints I guess...
Singaporepunjaban 2 years ago
nice !!!!
milanA380 2 years ago
aircraft need runways to land on. they also need them to take off.
fannybaba 2 years ago
my grandad flew here in 1966 when he was in the navy, no big commercial jet liners then, he flew on a eagle air plane which only had 4 proppelers! imagin a 100mph trip all the way from the UK the Hong Kong
adamski895RS 2 years ago
omg he must of had a numb butt by the end of the flight!
qwerty3862 2 years ago
He had to stop off like 10 times to re-fuel
adamski895RS 2 years ago
what do you mean?
qwerty3862 2 years ago
My grandmother flew into Kai Tak in 1992. She said it was the craziest landing she had ever seen.
PLANEMANGROY 2 years ago
y did they have to land like that??
YorkshireRhinos 2 years ago 2
they do because of the high terrain around the airport.
nanomusic 2 years ago
cant they land the other side of the runway?
qwerty3862 2 years ago
it is because of the winds, since u have to land into the wind.
nanomusic 2 years ago 2
what does the wind hardly blow the other way?
qwerty3862 2 years ago
i went to hong kong last summer.when we flew over hong kong i saw the old airport and the landing strip.
whitehawk38 2 years ago
иногда мне кажется что пилотами рождаются!)
PozitivKiev 2 years ago
what is IGS?
borkri 2 years ago
instrumental guidance system works like ILS apart from it wont land you
bamistheman 2 years ago
Amazing that this airport didn't have more accidents.
rafalweb 2 years ago
which documentary is this?
Aviosys 2 years ago
it was dangerouse having sometihng like 3 airplanes over shooting the runway and it did not have enough room
CalxP 2 years ago
i love the atc and pilot chatter!!
tubeparker23 2 years ago
I love flying planes but i wouldnt want to have the control approaching this airport
NKCrime 3 years ago
very nice
JAA278 3 years ago
It used to be known as the Kai Tak Heart Attack for a very good reason. And did I hear those wind speed checks correct? 100/10 on approach end then 090/19 at midfield? I'm not a pilot, but that's still a 10 kt gain. Shouldn't that have kicked off the windshear warnings? I am not an airline pilot (though I have flown the spam cans).
hormellover 3 years ago 2
what is a spam can
poptartpencil 3 years ago
110@10 AND 090@10
nyyankeefan2009 2 years ago
110@11 My fault
nyyankeefan2009 2 years ago
sorry 100@11
nyyankeefan2009 2 years ago
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Awesome video man! 5 stars!!
Check out my HD Flight Simulation channel sometime :)
Jon5700 3 years ago
its funny to me because they say that this is a cocpit view yet the thumbnail is of the pax view
cjracer1000 3 years ago
BEAUTIFUL!!! so what has become of this airport now??
iptv11 3 years ago
kai tak shut down in 1998 Im not sure why but now they use Hong Kong Intl
Megavids3 3 years ago
because kai tak was not big enough for the growing amount of planes travelling
NKCrime 3 years ago
Old Kai Tak ... that was true chalange ! =)
KristupitOo 3 years ago 2
that is amazing
seggaman123 3 years ago 2
y does the copilot say + 50 900, +50 1000
Razazi747 3 years ago
+50 1000, +50 900... maybe rate of descent & height above the ground?
HumAnimAlien51 3 years ago
I would say it means Speed above Vref (calculated approach speed)ie. Vref+50 knots and Barometric Altitude ie. 900ft (im assuming that it would be the height above sea level as the high buildings below would obscure radio altimeter readings) but dont take my word for it i am just speculating
mrinferno6969 3 years ago
With 19 years flying and 8 years as an international airline Captain let me clear this up. They are flying the Boeing 747-400 for Cathy Pacific. The Captain is at the controls as the F.O. (First Officer) assists quite well. The calls in question are Vref and RA (speed above final ref, and radar altimeter) plus 15 is the correct speed for full bank maneuvering of the 747-400 on this type of approach and the RA calls are routine. "plus 15..1000 = ref + 15 and 1000 feet above the ground.
rjp12739 3 years ago 23
haha..sorry, I'm not a Cathay pilot and not familiar with their SOP's. Upon second view, I realized that the 2nd call is VS (vertical speed) ie. "plus 15...900" means 15 KTAS above Vref and 900fpm. These calls allow the Captain to remain visually focused outside on the terrain and visual glide path. The Captain already knows the VS for the glide path for current barometric, temperature and wind conditions on the approach...the Captain can make slight adjustments to VS to track glide path
rjp12739 3 years ago
KTAS = KIAS...I should proof read first
rjp12739 3 years ago
@rjp12739 It sounds as though the second call out is in fact rate of decent rather than RA. Many operators use this technique as it so closely relates to the "stabilized approach concept." At around 1:40 when the jet is over the approach lights and the "Plus 15, 900" is called the aircraft far lower than 900 feet AGL.
PenAirPilot 1 year ago
@rjp12739 I don't understand a thing but you sound like a real pilot!!!
LaughsWontHurt 1 year ago 2
@LaughsWontHurt perfectly clear.
RedBaron7983 1 year ago
@rjp12739 Cathay Pacific. Not Cathy Pacific-she was a stripper in Kowloon.
mgfaxlad 1 year ago 8
@rjp12739 this mite be a dumb question but can u be a pilot if u dont have 20/20 vison
xMochi812x 7 months ago
@xMochi812x Yes, as long as your vision can be corrected to 20/20 with either glasses or contacts :P Hope you get in the air! Nothing better than flying!
landmark425 5 months ago
@rjp12739 Then you should know that it was not the 400 series 747. They have 6' high wingletts on their wings. It was a 300 series as one can tell by the number of windows and length of the upper deck. Try again, flight sim pilot. LOL
sklarich1 5 months ago
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@sklarich1 Sorry to burst your bubble, but rjp12739 is right. It's a 747-400, given by the fact that it has winglets, it has a -400 cockpit and I do not see a FE as well.
vlengoc 5 months ago
This is your captain speaking.........please leave a message after the tone.
mrknowfuckall 3 years ago
osorious ya i guess,u R right!
solomonpilot767 3 years ago
beside Bogotta Apt,thats one of the comlicated landing and,always the Capt must land the plane!
solomonpilot767 3 years ago
solomon: I think you may be referring to RWY 31R or 31L approach in Bogotá (SKBO) isnt'it? Beacause 13R or 13L approach are easy ones (of course if you respect your 12' minimums) :D
osorious 3 years ago
nice vid
pkenans 3 years ago
it looks so incredibly hard to land there
hbcrazyman 3 years ago 3
During this visual portion it is imperative that the correct visual cue with the surface is carefully maintained, making reference to aeronautical ground lights where appropriate, In view of the local terrain and the IGS being offset from runway, operators intending to use the IGS must ensure, for flight safety reasons, that their pilots are fully conversant with, and have adequate practice in, published procedures.
TomTom2898 3 years ago
That was a really gay way of saying a really simple thing...
PSPmaster321 3 years ago 2
Yea really
walkofdoom 3 years ago
"GAY?!?" Are you 12? 16 at the most? TomTom2898 is using professional language to describe a technically challenging approach. Maybe you should stick to your X-Box 360, or whatever gay forms of entertainment are not so boring?
Redeagle52000 3 years ago
This is Youtube, not a reference/procedural manual. He said something completely obvious and simple in a overly complicated way, his comment did not bear any implication.
And actually, I know more about planes than you might think. I do not play 360 games...
PSPmaster321 3 years ago
OK...I take your point...and I believe you about not playing X-box. My point was that TomTom2898 spelled out some technical procedures that some might find useful...for those who already know, they are free to overlook it.
Just because this is YouTube does not, I feel, mean that all comments should be "dumbed down." YouTube can be a good place to learn, and frankly, I'd rather have too much technical information that too little. Some want just the video while others find the tech info useful.
Redeagle52000 3 years ago
Ok, I take your point. Lets just leave it there and enjoy the video =)
PSPmaster321 3 years ago 2
The system uses ILS components. The attention of pilots is drawn to the fact that the IGS is offset from the landing direction by 47 degree.
TomTom2898 3 years ago
true skill landing
muthatrukka24 3 years ago
roger over under charlie.
primussucks 3 years ago
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this quality is rubbish..
lewisduncan93 3 years ago
This is YouTube, videos don't have to be perfect here.
747400fan 2 years ago 2
@747400fan Are you really a 747-400 fan or is that just a nick?
Singaporepunjaban 2 years ago
Kai Tak one of the old places which test the skills reminds me of landing in one of the approaches in Irian Jaya.
turbineslim 3 years ago
What hAppens in IRIAN JAYA??
AVIATIONMANIAC 3 years ago
its cathay 461 heavy
lol993300 3 years ago
oh~ my mistake ! corrected !
calvinkl 3 years ago 2
thats okay... sometimes a lot ppl make mistakes
lol993300 3 years ago 2
wow thank for putting me onto tampa kaitak,it looks stunning. I thought 9 dragons was as good as it could get.
jayhelldee 3 years ago
reminds me when i was a strapping young man throwing my Jumbo around he streets.
What do pilots think of MSFS with the pmdg 747?? does it resemble anything like a real multi million dollar simulator???
jayhelldee 3 years ago
Yeah the PMDG 737NG and the 747-400 series are quite amazing in terms of realism, and just released by Fly Tampa, I recommend the Fly Tampa Kai Tak scenery. It's simply awesome ;)
Aerobatique 3 years ago
these are real planes
fs9dude 3 years ago
I know dickhead, I was replying to someone's question, look and think before you try to be smart.
Aerobatique 3 years ago
reminds me when i was a straooing young man throwing my Jumbo around he streets.
jayhelldee 3 years ago
captain
anshulkamboj 3 years ago
the idear with Kai Tak wass the hil there was red and white. You fly so close you can on it and when the 2nd pilot started to be nervous you make the final turn and line the aircraft up. If you diden line the aircraft up at the right time you will land wrong
elskerstine 3 years ago
whats an IGS approach?
azkodagama 3 years ago
instrument guidance system
spitfir3ace 3 years ago
roger thanks
azkodagama 3 years ago
It's like ILS except it does not guide you to the runway.
At Kai Tak there is a sharp right turn onto the final.
The turn takes place at around 600agl which lines you up with the runway.
The IGS guides you to a checkerboard on a hill, double flashing lights on the ground, at which point the autothrottle is disengaged and the plane is banked sharply to the right for a landing.
jagara1 3 years ago
oh roger thanks
azkodagama 3 years ago
Thats when pilots cant let the autopilot do it, they have to land the plane by themselves, and on this airport.. it can be extremely diffcult. IGS is very spectaculare, and I know only about one airport who has it, Toncontin in Honduras. Just search at youtube
FlyThis94 3 years ago
That old lady on the right was mi nan.
Check my vids for some Flightsim Kaitak action.
jayhelldee 3 years ago
does any experts on here think the a380 could of flown this aproach?? cheers.
vine139 3 years ago
I like the video. As far as the reason why the visuals don't match could be because of the editing job. Editing a video is not easy even for the pros(although computers probably make it somewhat easier nowadays).
kimberlyKfnOphiEAGLE 3 years ago
fantastic vid!
kalkenbrenner 3 years ago
Its Cathay 461
kaitak94 3 years ago
I love both hong kong airports, but it would have been really cool to see an A380 execute an IGS 13 approach, huh?
ElAl4ever 3 years ago
im gonna try that in FS!
jimbotrains 3 years ago
aussie pilots??
FlightAttendant99 3 years ago
British. At the time of Kai Tak, the British were in control of Hong Kong. They gave it up in 2000 to China.
ElAl4ever 3 years ago
British. At the time of Kai Tak, the British were in control of Hong Kong. They gave it up in 2000 to China.
ElAl4ever 3 years ago
1997 =p
Acers2K 3 years ago
you're right, my bad!
ElAl4ever 3 years ago
i think the first officer is
mrinferno6969 3 years ago
very good approach, congrats
FlyMan027 3 years ago
Good job BBC
GJv0179 3 years ago 3
Why don't they land from the sea side instead? Is it because of the wind direction?
twisterwiper 3 years ago
If one overshoots the runway then where is it heading to? Some buildings or Water? There's that TAM accident we can all learn from. But somewhere in Nepal the planes land precariously toward a mountain wall. Look it up on YT.
spectrumoflove 3 years ago
@twisterwiper: actually another reason was noise protection. a landing airplane produces less noise than a starting one. another reason was that coming in from south east (waterside) would have resulted in having to turn in on glideslope over hk island.
main reason surely was security in case of problems. overshooting the runway into the water = way better than running into residential area.
alphamale666 3 years ago
The Airbus A380-A350-A340-A330- Boeing 787 Dreamliner-777-767-757-747 and the MD11 are named heavy for wave blast alerts.
paulpladet 4 years ago
A300
CptrossBurke 3 years ago
and don't forget DC-10 and L-1011
TWA021 3 years ago
lol controller's voice gives me a head ache.
Abbasi123456789 4 years ago
"Heavy" is added to the call sign of very large airliners such as a 747, 777, 767 and A340, MD11 etc, etc. The reason is that they have huge vortexes that can toss around other planes. So in effect you want to stay well back of a "Heavy" and out of it's prop wash or you could be tossed around violently. It is a consideration that approaches, the tower and other airliners needs to be aware of... so the call sign "Heavy" is appended.
grantrmca 4 years ago
not sure if 767 is assigned as heavy.
Abbasi123456789 4 years ago
Yes, 767 is a "Heavy".
grantrmca 4 years ago
it's take off weight (max) is between 350,000 and 401,000 Lbs well in excess of the 225 required for the "Heavy designation".
grantrmca 4 years ago
I imagine that living anywhere near Kai Tak was a flight-spotter's paradise. But I have to wonder if some of the people living in those apartments(that's what they're called here in the US) are glad now not to have so much aircraft noise.
kimberlyKfnOphiEAGLE 4 years ago
why do kai tak close
elskerstine 4 years ago
they had some reason's to close Kai Tak and 1of them is they had a better airport there (Hong Kong International) I'ts to bad they closed Kai Tak...
ADFMakan 4 years ago
yes
elskerstine 4 years ago
Combination of noise abatement demands and the airport not being able to handle the demand requests of the airlines, which included modern facilities and additional runways.
flyana 4 years ago
cool
fsxexpert 4 years ago
When did Kai Tak close??? Wow... It has been too long since I've been to Hong Kong.
brewdog11 4 years ago
1997 they closed
jimanHK 4 years ago
No, July of 1998
ImmortalSynn 4 years ago
It's been almost 10 years.
newschannel 4 years ago
Even though HK has Disneyland now, the most exhilarating ride (Kai Tak) is forever gone.
chumanho 4 years ago
thata mazng
jimpurdie 4 years ago
Are they showing two planes or one? One has the new livery and the other has the old livery.
SsCuAnRnEyKsRuOn 4 years ago
The colors of the outside view and the inside view don't match. The outside view 747 has new Cathay Pacific colors and is a 747-200. The inside view 747 has old color (the paint job that I like) and is a 747-400 (you could tell by the winglet). Now the streets of Kowloon Hong Kong is too quiet...
buybygb 4 years ago
this is awesome. it must have sucked lving near the airport cuz the planes are super close
monsterdude79 4 years ago
It would have been fun!!!!!! After 1998, It's too quiet!!!!!
buybygb 4 years ago
Great video, very well strung together...I prefer the flight clips without music dubbed over the top, they are much better, good job!
itzajdmting 4 years ago
Landed there many times when I was a kid mid-end 1960's. Always in Boeing 707s. Used to take ages to get there from London. It wasa good plane and the pilots were good too!
juliijulii 4 years ago
the airport is famous for the difficulty to land, and now it is demolished and the land is used as a bus depot
arthurrox 4 years ago
Callsign: Cathay 461 Heavy
IGS Approach Runway 13
Approach:119.10
Tower:118.70
IGS:111.90
lewisduncan93 4 years ago
Callsign: Cathay 641 Heavy
IGS Approach Runway 13
Approach:119.10
Tower:118.70
IGS:111.90
lewisduncan93 4 years ago
It was pretty cool landing at Kai Tak back in the day. You'd be flying over a sea of what seemed like endless flats with clothes drying outside windows and then the plane would suddenly drop onto the runway. The new airport is neat in itself by its design, but nothing compares to what Kai Tak was like.
TonyGRichmond 4 years ago
Great! I love it! If only Kai Tak could have remained in service long enough for me to visit.
ChasenSFO 4 years ago
Amazing all these sounds in the cockpit. Sounds like they're running an old computer game
javeljaveljavel 4 years ago
the video is awesome, thanks for your sharing!
kikiylaa 4 years ago
wonderful flying
ASSEMblerEX 4 years ago
btw...The airline is called Cathay Pacific....not Cathy
Fantikerz 4 years ago
yeah, but its callsign is cathay 641 heavy....
p5657587 4 years ago
The heavy simply added as when it departed, it was greater than 275000 lbs in weight.
flyana 4 years ago
you misunderstood. that guy who originally posted stated that the airline is cathay pacific, not cathay. i was just noting that its callsign was CPA641H. I might have misunderstood to begin with, but that was my intention when I wrote it. As for the "heavy", since a 747-400 has a empty weight of nearly 400,000 lbs I knew that it was added for that purpose.
p5657587 4 years ago
On the final turn, you could see the buildings were so close ! Scary and exciting !
doncortisone001 4 years ago
really great vid 747 is an awesome machine
georgesturdy 5 years ago
This is well cool. lol it sounds like there playing a game at 00:54
ck2408 5 years ago
Heh, I know what you mean, however, that sound is the disconnecting of the auto*flight* systems. AKA autopilot.
772pilot 4 years ago
Awesome!
scan06disk 5 years ago
Ever since i was 3 years i wanted to be a pilot
Spintuto67 5 years ago
Landing at the old HK aiport was one of the most exciting experiences in my life!
Bruno3435 5 years ago
i love planes :D
FilipKid 5 years ago
absolutely superb...
darealsuperstugaz 5 years ago