Holy fuck, fake ass shit? Not aiming at the other guys sword? This was as a display of how to use a sword, not to spread blood and guts all over the place. Notice how they are very lightly equipped? If either of them made a 'real' swing and hit the opponent the way a soldier would have wanted to hit his target then this would have been a snuff movie.
You use a sword to attack your opponent. That's what swords are made for. Killing people. And you kill people by attacking him. Not the weapon he's holding.
You don't use a sword to attack another sword... unless it was a maingauche or something.
If they weren't fighting "for real" in the sense that they were supposed to fight each other properly then they shouldn't have named it "real" two hand sword fight.
Well, yeah, I noticed i should have been a bit clearer as i posted it.
"For real" in the sense that one might think a fencing duel or a kendo shiai are real: they attempt to strike the enemy's head or torso or wrist rather than aiming and focusing movements toward the enemy's weapon instead.
Of course they wouldn't try to hurt each other. I practice with friends with a little more protection (mainly the face and neck) with wasters but don't want to aim at the body because if the person doesn't block properly, you will really hurt if not break something. Steel weapons hurt more than sticks so of course they wouldn't aim at the body at all with very little protection.
Ok first of all, those of you saying "fake" blah, blah. Fighting with live blades is very dangerous. The fact they aren't wearing protection means they are being careful ( after all I assume they are friendly adversaries).
Wishing they finish each other off with some kind of mortal blow or yelling "faggots" tells me that you are out of touch with reality (too many video games. those swords can cause "real" serious injury) and you're rude.
That said, if a couple of guys hacked at each other as they did in the movie, wouldn't they end up with chunks being knocked out of their sword blades?
i am shooting with a longbow (34), but i want a heavier one (probably 45 or so and shooting, blunt arrows can hurt too, so like it 3 times the power of my bow, and think an steel pointed bodkin or barbed arrow point on the end, and if english, white feathers too...
They slashed trough, and the archers do the actually work, butchering enemy arty and heavy units, horses get hit.. death is near
As for the 2h themselves, they got too light armour, they get hit in the arm and die
In a duel between to highly trained knights then it would be a slower fight because of their skill and strong yet mobile and lightweight armor. But in a battle, you always want to press forawrd and gain more ground. Never let the enemy know that you have any doubt and they'll fear you. Also in a battle there are many other factors, tight space means less room to swing and also the terrain, archers and cavalry. The backbone of war is tactics, speed, and psychological warfare.
In a battle if you just stand there like an idiot waiting for them to screw up then you're open for anyone else in the battle to just cut you down. The length of a swordfight depends on skill and pure luck You want to press forward, make them nervous,drive them back until they lose their footing or tire out. There was a German proverb that said "what doesn't kill you made a big mistake" Remember that in battles it was the basic men at arms that did most of the fighting not the trained nobles
Actually the samurai and i'm not sure if this is in other sword fighting styles but in england the masters would wear black so that no one would challenge a master to a duel.
Okay, seriously. In a sword fight, they do not last only seconds. They also don't just try to attack only the person as you want to cut and not get cut so you will block the sword and find out how they fight first. You don't just go in for the kill, you find that one opening. (this is just for the people who said it should be over in a few hits or seconds)
In anime no they don't take even a few minutes, they take weeks! But in real life, yes they can last only seconds, this one was actually drawn out quite a bit longer than it should have been, also waiting to find that "one opening" increases the other guys chances at killing you first.
Well it does depend on the anime in that respect, yes, I will give you that one.
Yes, they can last only seconds, that is true; however, I am of course talking about skilled fighters (maybe I should have been more specific), like the higher ranks, so I suppose we can both have that one.
as far as increasing the chance of the other guy killing you first..it depends on your defensive capabilities, of course. I don't know a person who knows how to really use a sword who just goes right for the kill
sorry, character limit... Anyways, by trying to rush a kill, you leave yourself open to so many more attacks because you are going hastily and leaving a lot of openings. That's why you try to find the opponent's opening.
PsychoSuo9000, That's like saying: how to win a gun fight? send in a predator drone with missiles. Yeah we know guns are more effective weapons now, people don's use swords thinking they'll whip one out in a gun fight. People learn swordplay out of appreciation and respect for a classic and elegant weapon, as part of martial arts training, or for the enjoyment of historical reenactment. Congratulations for stating he obvious.
I understand that they have to be careful for the fact that swords are heavy and dangerous even when blunt, but for all their skill, which is being muffled by all the people watching them, which can mess with your concentration, and thus your focus.
the reason why european martial arts "got lost" wasn't the asian ones. the reason was gunpowder. you cannot block a bullet or conter against it. you just die.
yeah - Western martial arts (Backsword, stuff from the German sword manuals etc.) were overshadowed by Eastern martial arts such as Kendo etc. However, to my knowledge, there are no big eastern re-enactment groups. Western reenactment has been going for a while and Western martial arts such asfighting with 2h swords or bastard swords has been making a comeback.
Personally, I think that's a good thing. Moreover, I can't stand katanas (personal preference). They're decent weapons but overhyped.
Absolutely dude, yes katanas are badass, but how many real ones are there? anyone with a steel shop can make a katana look alike, and everyone automatically says they'd use a katana just because they've heard they're the best. it wasn't the fact they were katana's that made them great, it was the devotion of both the men who made them and the men that wielded them. Back in the day, my buds and I practiced jedi kendo sword style, but why practice fighting with a weapon that you can't get ahold of
This is a good example of 'slow sparring' it is free movement, not choreographed. This is most likely how people trained in the past. It is important to learn how to improvise, and see what works and doesn't work in a relatively safe way.
u gotta wonder if there was any actual long swordfights back then...this is coregraphed so that the sword always meet, but back then it was just random slashing...
can people really anticpate and move fast enough to have an continued battle?
having a continued battle was not the idea back then, back then the idea was kill the bastard infront of you and try not 2 get shot by sum bugger wiv a bow and not get yourself killed
its easier to lower the sword to block an attack rather than to lift it to block an attack, and its also easier to start off swinging downward, if you think about it
yeah, although they are holding it breva (short) I personally prefer that stance longa (long) as I find that a it helps me ensure measure (a big issue for me) and b it gives me a slightly different set of tempo parameters.
@hwdrebel "Seemed like they were aiming at each other's swords, not each other's tender areas"
I was thinking the same thing. God forbid that I should wish anyone harm, but actors are two a penny and it seems a terrible way to treat a couple of fine swords.
Was obviously chorreographed, nontheless, was well done. I've seen people go at it more, of course, but considering these guys weren't armoured, they wouldn't have risked it.
Chorreographed has never been my cup of tea, I'm an SCAdian myself, and plan to join LH at some point, but a nice video anyway!
Hey I have a quick question about chainmail, I heard aluminum chainmail is terrible and falls apart but what about zinc? Im thinking of ordering a chainmail shirt online that is butted zinc any suggestions?
I doubt it'll be zinc, more likely steel coated with zinc, which would protect it from rusting. When ordering maille, make sure you go to a reputable dealer. Here in the UK, I use the knight shop, I'm guessing you're from the US, try googling Icefalcon armoury, he's pretty good, and does butted and riveted. Butted will fall apart pretty easily if you use it, riveted costs much more, but will last a life time if looked after. Feel free to message me if you need a longer chat, always happy to help
Aye, I've heard of them. Their stuff is ok. No good for actually fighting in though, and rather expensive.
As I said to OblivionCloser3 earlier, message me if you're looking for armour, and I'll do my best to help you out. if you PM me, I'll give you a few sites to try out, and you can ask me as many questions as you want.
Alternitively, if you live in the UK, I'm an armourer, and can make a few bits and pieces, which I'll happily sell off cheaply.
In fairness its never going to be "historic" as these people obviously don't practice 4 to 5 hours a day, every day (except Sundays of course) like the real deal did which is why they look a bit "rusty" :-)
ya thay do i do the same thing you have to work hard to go that fast yes thay where doing it all wrong thay did have people close to the fight and thay have to put a gate up but my hole famliy practice every day and we can't go that fast ther higher then master
think of it this way, if they'd been fighting in an historically correct way they probably would have killed the guy with the camera, either that or this was the first time either of them had held a sword
The two handed sword was made to attack through a pike wall. The guys who could use that type of sword were better payed and they were really skilled fighters. The scotts were one of the first which used the two handed swords and they were really good with them ;)
yes. thats true. and even the Scotts were so good and skilled they were the first ones to create the Two-and-A-Half-Hand sword, or as many people know it better as the common Longsword. without the Scotts, we wouldnt have longswords are two handed swords.
oh yes its the hand and a half sword (that what i meant lol) but there are numerous types of hand and a half swords, for instance 2 are the common longsword and he common bastard sword (which yes you are correct).
which moron decided to say European swords were heavy ? I'm no historian but i know European swords were made to be fast, deadly and light. a one handed would probably not weigh anything more than 1-3kg. even less actually
they might have wanted to make the swords as fast and light and deadly as possible but with the crafting skills they had at the time they didn't do as well as other people are comparing it to.
also there is always a comprise when u make swords as long as they are using here.
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Nice tights. You are as lame as your sword fight. Why don't you do all of us a favor and forget your silly fantasy- just go through yourselves on your swords. Thanks
actually tomma889123; that has been a debatable subject between me and my friend for a while, i'm scottish and i have both a flamberge and a katana because i love swords, and i've frequently tested all with different techniques/moves and fighting styles on a dummy i have with impact resistant plating(like wood, straw, and a punching bag in 1), and i've found that the bigger swords, with the right berserkers' rage, are able to strike VERY fast with ALOT of strength, better than the katana
One good thrust or half-sword stab would have ended that in 3 seconds. Just get on the helmet/face shield so you CAN use practical, historic technique.... because when you're swinging steel at each other's naked melons... no one is going to try too hard.
Perhaps my comment was misconstrued a little, I wasn't suggesting that they make killing strikes at each other - these can be made at 50% speed or even less depending on the skill of the swordsmen, at which speed a blunt sword can't really do much harm. To accurately represent a fight they need to aim the blows so that they might connect if not stopped. If one of these guys fought and the other one simply stood still, still nobody would get hit :) I'd rather see slower but more accurate combat
well the Knights Hospitallier made pretty decent rapiers, they even have hand guards that wrap around, which is awesome and light, better than the longswords used in in Crusades.
yes but the raipers had only one sharp tip.the Asian swords have a sleek one edge blade with a tip.They are light,strong blades.the only advantages i see in rapier are its elite hanguards and light blade.But if i think that your best chance in a real fight would be either a heavy,handguardless,two edge blade,knifes,or dual-weilding a raiper and Asian sword.
Most people who do reconstruction make this mistake, which is to just clash swords together. Every motion made should either a) be a killing/crippling strike (aimed at arms, head, neck, or legs primarily), b) be a 'beat' against the opponents weapon to clear a line to make a kill strike, or c) be a defence. These guys are just waving their blades, with the result that they make a lot of clanging and don't come close to actually hitting one another.
This is the annoying thing about "re-enactment" of course.. unless the technology is developed to give a fully protective layer to the neck, face and arm pits etc (all the vulnerable areas on the body), we will never truly see what medieval sword fighting was "really" like. At the moment you cannot just lunge at the head, for safety reasons. And slashing at plate armour is simply pointless. So good comment, but i feel that it's unrealistic to ask for more than stage fighting in re-enactment...
Considering the fact that in most cultures, swords were the weapons of nobility due to how expensive they were to make, I'd say that I'd use it to try and go for a killing or maiming strike, and I'd use my much less expensive shield to block an attack, considering that was what my shield was made for.
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WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE??? why are they fighting with swords, just fist fight if you are trying to be all cool and nice gay stances while fighitng, esp guy in white
geez, they move in such a rigid manner, not smooth and flowing then again but thats just my opinion, maybe im used to 2 weapon fighting with curved blades. after you see that at full speed everything else seems so... square? i dunno, still i guess they didnt have padding etc
those swords sound soft, they arent striking hard, me and my cousin go crazy and sometimes cause sparks and then have to re-sharpen our blades all over again D: lol
its not choreographed, its free form, its just not full on because they are having a friendly spar with out any protective gear. and medieval colours were bright and vibrant, they had many types of dyes and cloth, go do some research
FAGS!!
ScottieLXVII 3 months ago
well dah if you could cut someone head off and get a way with it i would of did it years ago lol
natelee42069 7 months ago
eropeans are fucked up man
joker52mlb 1 year ago
@joker52mlb
Bazzeg önmagad te faszopó
beni1645 11 months ago
@beni1645 Huh?
joker52mlb 11 months ago
that seemed... overacted. -_-
BenB998765 1 year ago
Holy fuck, fake ass shit? Not aiming at the other guys sword? This was as a display of how to use a sword, not to spread blood and guts all over the place. Notice how they are very lightly equipped? If either of them made a 'real' swing and hit the opponent the way a soldier would have wanted to hit his target then this would have been a snuff movie.
FrisianDude 1 year ago
@FrisianDude Hey, I'm just sayin... the title says its a real duel.
hwdrebel 1 year ago
@hwdrebel well, yeah. :(
FrisianDude 1 year ago
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@FrisianDude " This was as a display of how to use a sword"
But it ain't. It is just a couple of guys damaging a pair of decent swords.
oarfrost 1 year ago
@FrisianDude
"This was a display of how to use a sword"
You use a sword to attack your opponent. That's what swords are made for. Killing people. And you kill people by attacking him. Not the weapon he's holding.
You don't use a sword to attack another sword... unless it was a maingauche or something.
If they weren't fighting "for real" in the sense that they were supposed to fight each other properly then they shouldn't have named it "real" two hand sword fight.
DestructoMonkey 11 months ago
@DestructoMonkey Yes, true. Fair enough. :P But calling it 'real' is less unreasonable than expecting them to try to kill eachother. :D
FrisianDude 11 months ago
@FrisianDude
Well, yeah, I noticed i should have been a bit clearer as i posted it.
"For real" in the sense that one might think a fencing duel or a kendo shiai are real: they attempt to strike the enemy's head or torso or wrist rather than aiming and focusing movements toward the enemy's weapon instead.
DestructoMonkey 11 months ago
roflmao
skinnyg190 1 year ago
fake ass shit
noir0222 1 year ago
Of course they wouldn't try to hurt each other. I practice with friends with a little more protection (mainly the face and neck) with wasters but don't want to aim at the body because if the person doesn't block properly, you will really hurt if not break something. Steel weapons hurt more than sticks so of course they wouldn't aim at the body at all with very little protection.
acephantom903 1 year ago
Ok first of all, those of you saying "fake" blah, blah. Fighting with live blades is very dangerous. The fact they aren't wearing protection means they are being careful ( after all I assume they are friendly adversaries).
Wishing they finish each other off with some kind of mortal blow or yelling "faggots" tells me that you are out of touch with reality (too many video games. those swords can cause "real" serious injury) and you're rude.
turtle60 1 year ago
How the hell is this inappropriate to some users? I mean, its an renactment...
pedarikarhu 1 year ago
That was fun sidesword and thanks for the upload.
That said, if a couple of guys hacked at each other as they did in the movie, wouldn't they end up with chunks being knocked out of their sword blades?
oarfrost 1 year ago
@oarfrost Not unless they're using really bad swords.
FrisianDude 1 year ago
Of course they arent going to try to kill eachother its a stage fight for entertainment, just watch and enjoy it.
Jiggaboo1137 1 year ago
WHERES THE BLOOD!!!!!
vcfcvmv 1 year ago
FINISH HIM FAGGOTS!
Spartan727 1 year ago
im always waiting in these vids for someone to yell either "FINISH HIM" (mortal kombat) OR "FAGGOTS"
anthony214996 1 year ago
this was obviously choreographed... badly i might add
Maherman95 1 year ago
i wonder how much DPS those swords do. is it the "Destiny?"
doogrisa 1 year ago
Fight like a spartan in 300.. that's real sword fighting
yawbus6 1 year ago
Those are called claymores
SoulKiIIer 1 year ago
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sittingbull09 2 years ago
мдя..
werkirill 2 years ago
Great sword duel love it
Jimmy1881001 2 years ago
huh??? this video get a bad rating because people can't read descriptions.
goth0c 2 years ago
Why in the hell is this flagged for 18+?
SlaeynPresents 2 years ago 6
I dont get it either, maybe some anxious mom has reprted it or an ever alerted feminist. People are just stupid, except those who aren\t.
szabadtuzon 2 years ago 2
Damn it guys....
i am shooting with a longbow (34), but i want a heavier one (probably 45 or so and shooting, blunt arrows can hurt too, so like it 3 times the power of my bow, and think an steel pointed bodkin or barbed arrow point on the end, and if english, white feathers too...
They slashed trough, and the archers do the actually work, butchering enemy arty and heavy units, horses get hit.. death is near
As for the 2h themselves, they got too light armour, they get hit in the arm and die
kjekkie 2 years ago
in a real sword fight...you dont aim to the otherguys sword...
88Jako 2 years ago 39
@88Jako more like for the head !
4o4osam 1 year ago
In a duel between to highly trained knights then it would be a slower fight because of their skill and strong yet mobile and lightweight armor. But in a battle, you always want to press forawrd and gain more ground. Never let the enemy know that you have any doubt and they'll fear you. Also in a battle there are many other factors, tight space means less room to swing and also the terrain, archers and cavalry. The backbone of war is tactics, speed, and psychological warfare.
WolfOfBloodAndBone 2 years ago 4
In a battle if you just stand there like an idiot waiting for them to screw up then you're open for anyone else in the battle to just cut you down. The length of a swordfight depends on skill and pure luck You want to press forward, make them nervous,drive them back until they lose their footing or tire out. There was a German proverb that said "what doesn't kill you made a big mistake" Remember that in battles it was the basic men at arms that did most of the fighting not the trained nobles
WolfOfBloodAndBone 2 years ago
Broad swords are all about power but katanas are for smooth clean cuts with not very much power like the broad sword
jokd74nsd 2 years ago
looks like two fat people having a hard time holding a real(heavy) sword
joemadly 2 years ago
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laffz15 2 years ago
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real swordfighting was only done by the samurai. white ppl suck.
hhokyo 2 years ago
Actually the samurai and i'm not sure if this is in other sword fighting styles but in england the masters would wear black so that no one would challenge a master to a duel.
heyimzane 2 years ago
there not useing katanas, there useing brod swords. used in the middle ages. the samurai arnt the only 1s who use swords.
weloveanimetoo 2 years ago
Okay, seriously. In a sword fight, they do not last only seconds. They also don't just try to attack only the person as you want to cut and not get cut so you will block the sword and find out how they fight first. You don't just go in for the kill, you find that one opening. (this is just for the people who said it should be over in a few hits or seconds)
darkblaze435 2 years ago
In anime no they don't take even a few minutes, they take weeks! But in real life, yes they can last only seconds, this one was actually drawn out quite a bit longer than it should have been, also waiting to find that "one opening" increases the other guys chances at killing you first.
qyark 2 years ago
Well it does depend on the anime in that respect, yes, I will give you that one.
Yes, they can last only seconds, that is true; however, I am of course talking about skilled fighters (maybe I should have been more specific), like the higher ranks, so I suppose we can both have that one.
as far as increasing the chance of the other guy killing you first..it depends on your defensive capabilities, of course. I don't know a person who knows how to really use a sword who just goes right for the kill
darkblaze435 2 years ago
sorry, character limit... Anyways, by trying to rush a kill, you leave yourself open to so many more attacks because you are going hastily and leaving a lot of openings. That's why you try to find the opponent's opening.
darkblaze435 2 years ago
How to win a sword fight? Grab a gun and just shoot.
PsychoSuo9000 2 years ago
PsychoSuo9000, That's like saying: how to win a gun fight? send in a predator drone with missiles. Yeah we know guns are more effective weapons now, people don's use swords thinking they'll whip one out in a gun fight. People learn swordplay out of appreciation and respect for a classic and elegant weapon, as part of martial arts training, or for the enjoyment of historical reenactment. Congratulations for stating he obvious.
castroherman 2 years ago 3
this was probably at a rennisance fair
8ball0888 2 years ago
Real sword fights lasted about 10 seconds. One person gets cut then they get finished off.
00JakeR00 2 years ago
Not necessarily.
savagesnowball 2 years ago
I understand that they have to be careful for the fact that swords are heavy and dangerous even when blunt, but for all their skill, which is being muffled by all the people watching them, which can mess with your concentration, and thus your focus.
TheVoraciousSnapmare 2 years ago
if you point your sword towards your enemy, it is hard for them to judge how long and ho close it is.
radar77377 2 years ago
Good show. This is works a proffesionals with steel but it is only a show for ther peoples.
WingDrakos 2 years ago
back in those days all the cool kids used to say
Swords dont kill people ,
Gunpowder dus!!
catnium 2 years ago 4
the reason why european martial arts "got lost" wasn't the asian ones. the reason was gunpowder. you cannot block a bullet or conter against it. you just die.
moep 2 years ago 4
ok wtf i seen so many vid and no one has used a katana only 2h swords
keni184 2 years ago
yeah - Western martial arts (Backsword, stuff from the German sword manuals etc.) were overshadowed by Eastern martial arts such as Kendo etc. However, to my knowledge, there are no big eastern re-enactment groups. Western reenactment has been going for a while and Western martial arts such asfighting with 2h swords or bastard swords has been making a comeback.
Personally, I think that's a good thing. Moreover, I can't stand katanas (personal preference). They're decent weapons but overhyped.
Oddthetall 2 years ago 2
Exactly man, everyone wants to be a fucking ninja!
C4SEM4N 2 years ago
actually problem there, katanas were samurai...ninjas used Ninjato or even shikoro ken. Sorry, just felt like giving a bit of a history lesson there.
darkblaze435 2 years ago
Absolutely dude, yes katanas are badass, but how many real ones are there? anyone with a steel shop can make a katana look alike, and everyone automatically says they'd use a katana just because they've heard they're the best. it wasn't the fact they were katana's that made them great, it was the devotion of both the men who made them and the men that wielded them. Back in the day, my buds and I practiced jedi kendo sword style, but why practice fighting with a weapon that you can't get ahold of
TheVoraciousSnapmare 2 years ago
These guys look like they are fighting each others sword rather than each other.
bishopob 2 years ago 3
This is a good example of 'slow sparring' it is free movement, not choreographed. This is most likely how people trained in the past. It is important to learn how to improvise, and see what works and doesn't work in a relatively safe way.
amritatva 2 years ago
sincerly thanks. looks like you are one of the few who understood the "meaning" of this duel.
jeeezuz 2 years ago
a real fight would usualy only last 3 secs max most of the time,
someone makes a move, the other tries to counter, and then either does a quick finisher. THE END
ZombiesUPtheHell 2 years ago 2
you watch too many movies, zombieUPtheHell.
superf0b 2 years ago
Wrong distance. Solution: Try to hit the bone, not the metal...
KingHaggard2006 2 years ago 5
yes, not a real fight, but a choregraphy
Gnagnajar 2 years ago 3
u gotta wonder if there was any actual long swordfights back then...this is coregraphed so that the sword always meet, but back then it was just random slashing...
can people really anticpate and move fast enough to have an continued battle?
Gregoryxlz 2 years ago
knights could actually get stuck fighting each other for quite some time thanks to the strength of plate armor.
it's part of the reason piercing attacks are so integrated into western fighting styles.
pyr666 2 years ago
And crossbows.
Moriatti 2 years ago
Often not.
Moriatti 2 years ago
lol i would say u block the first slash easily and like 3-6 more slashes the fight should be over
scorpians111 2 years ago
having a continued battle was not the idea back then, back then the idea was kill the bastard infront of you and try not 2 get shot by sum bugger wiv a bow and not get yourself killed
wargman9 2 years ago 3
How is this 'real'? - I would suggest it was more of a play fight between two retards who enjoy wearing yellow tights.
gloves71 2 years ago
LMFAO XD
wargman9 2 years ago
Only one is wearing tights. And it is not only read, but also yellow. ; )
duckduden 2 years ago
i think they meant "real sword"... as in impact resistant high carbon steel blades.
Milkmadness 2 years ago
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vanunit 2 years ago
Red/yellow guy wins at 0:17
Danthemagicman22 2 years ago
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Is that stance really any good for swordplay? It seems really akward, not a very good defensive nor offensive stance at first glance..
alwaysreturning 2 years ago
its easier to lower the sword to block an attack rather than to lift it to block an attack, and its also easier to start off swinging downward, if you think about it
Hauntlander 2 years ago
yeah, although they are holding it breva (short) I personally prefer that stance longa (long) as I find that a it helps me ensure measure (a big issue for me) and b it gives me a slightly different set of tempo parameters.
mrAbaterWhite 2 years ago
Bastard
RVJar 2 years ago
Scherma italiana
Laurelion666 2 years ago
cool!
GoreTorn16 2 years ago
Seemed like they were aiming at each other's swords, not each other's tender areas.
hwdrebel 2 years ago 22
Yeah. These guys are obviously not having a real sparring match, but a choreographed "fight". Still, it's appealing to watch.
AshThePhantom 2 years ago 3
i couldnt agree more dude , i know ppl who have that problem always aiming for the opponents weapon instead of the opponent
ltpliskenjg 2 years ago
@hwdrebel if they wanted to kill each other the battle would look way different and really brutal xD
fawaz19000 1 year ago
@fawaz19000 well yeah, I get that, I only commented because the title says "real" -- I'm not usually a nit picker ;^)
hwdrebel 1 year ago
@hwdrebel "Seemed like they were aiming at each other's swords, not each other's tender areas"
I was thinking the same thing. God forbid that I should wish anyone harm, but actors are two a penny and it seems a terrible way to treat a couple of fine swords.
oarfrost 1 year ago
Was obviously chorreographed, nontheless, was well done. I've seen people go at it more, of course, but considering these guys weren't armoured, they wouldn't have risked it.
Chorreographed has never been my cup of tea, I'm an SCAdian myself, and plan to join LH at some point, but a nice video anyway!
Alex231291 2 years ago 2
Hey I have a quick question about chainmail, I heard aluminum chainmail is terrible and falls apart but what about zinc? Im thinking of ordering a chainmail shirt online that is butted zinc any suggestions?
OblivionCloser3 2 years ago
I doubt it'll be zinc, more likely steel coated with zinc, which would protect it from rusting. When ordering maille, make sure you go to a reputable dealer. Here in the UK, I use the knight shop, I'm guessing you're from the US, try googling Icefalcon armoury, he's pretty good, and does butted and riveted. Butted will fall apart pretty easily if you use it, riveted costs much more, but will last a life time if looked after. Feel free to message me if you need a longer chat, always happy to help
Alex231291 2 years ago
Thanks, do you know a website called Medieval Collectibles? They do pretty good and I was just wondering if you know of them.
WolfOfBloodAndBone 2 years ago
Aye, I've heard of them. Their stuff is ok. No good for actually fighting in though, and rather expensive.
As I said to OblivionCloser3 earlier, message me if you're looking for armour, and I'll do my best to help you out. if you PM me, I'll give you a few sites to try out, and you can ask me as many questions as you want.
Alternitively, if you live in the UK, I'm an armourer, and can make a few bits and pieces, which I'll happily sell off cheaply.
Alex231291 2 years ago
this isn't real. there's a guy taking pictures in the background. the swords were real and i could tell they were holding back.
MysticKeyblader 2 years ago
ofc this isn't real, how would they have filmed it in the Middle Ages. And ofc they hold back, it's a fun fight, you don't want to kill the other
BfmeRS 2 years ago
You are a real idiot BfmRS.
VentNameJesus 2 years ago 3
In fairness its never going to be "historic" as these people obviously don't practice 4 to 5 hours a day, every day (except Sundays of course) like the real deal did which is why they look a bit "rusty" :-)
Saxe333 2 years ago
ya thay do i do the same thing you have to work hard to go that fast yes thay where doing it all wrong thay did have people close to the fight and thay have to put a gate up but my hole famliy practice every day and we can't go that fast ther higher then master
yothejobman 2 years ago
wow get some katanas in there
boo
xomar24x 2 years ago
think of it this way, if they'd been fighting in an historically correct way they probably would have killed the guy with the camera, either that or this was the first time either of them had held a sword
BlackHearted65 2 years ago
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Fucking nerds
whyusucksobad 2 years ago
holy shit!
666MONKEYPORN 2 years ago
wish i had one of them 2h's >.>
zach12020 2 years ago
*stab* done.
ForgottenMemoriesFM 2 years ago 4
those moves were so rusty it was ridiculous also im not gonna go against you if you say it was real ... but you know im just saying what i think
EDwiiN15 2 years ago
well yeah, especially because of the fact that one of them pulled off a shoddy version of a japanese stance
brophy3000 2 years ago
Perhaps historic isn't the correct word, entertaining maybe, but certainly not historic.
Ruach 2 years ago
FUKIN AWSOME
freshsi165 2 years ago
thats some nice scots fight
urucha1234 2 years ago
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waste of my time i hope both of them get shanked to death
RazlerofEsthar 2 years ago
Guys, just for your info: Zweihänder meens Two handed (as opposed to the standrad one or one and a half handed sword)
LutzBrux 2 years ago
DONT call Scottish ppl scots. They hate that trust me. (1/4 Scottish) leared the hard way
irule2333 2 years ago
"ouch. fuck, you cut my leg open, for real. time out for a sec."
senffx 2 years ago
*Does Peter Griffins "ssss, ahhh"*
savagesnowball 2 years ago
LOL!!!!
PwnD3fFtw 2 years ago
spambot, omg, go back to your halo and space battles and leave the sword opinions to smarter people
Deximius 2 years ago 4
Lol this is stupid swords weren't made to deflect strikes if u have a sword it should be a one strike kill like the samurai did.
SpamBot9001 2 years ago
The two handed sword was made to attack through a pike wall. The guys who could use that type of sword were better payed and they were really skilled fighters. The scotts were one of the first which used the two handed swords and they were really good with them ;)
Navinor 2 years ago
yes. thats true. and even the Scotts were so good and skilled they were the first ones to create the Two-and-A-Half-Hand sword, or as many people know it better as the common Longsword. without the Scotts, we wouldnt have longswords are two handed swords.
PwnD3fFtw 2 years ago
I thought it was a hand-and-a-half sword which was known as a bastard sword...?
OmegaDragoon 2 years ago
oh yes its the hand and a half sword (that what i meant lol) but there are numerous types of hand and a half swords, for instance 2 are the common longsword and he common bastard sword (which yes you are correct).
PwnD3fFtw 2 years ago
A longsword, which is around 100-120 cm long weights 1.2-1.5 kilos. Hardly heavy, considering fine balancing.
Ranziel1 2 years ago
which moron decided to say European swords were heavy ? I'm no historian but i know European swords were made to be fast, deadly and light. a one handed would probably not weigh anything more than 1-3kg. even less actually
radicalhit 2 years ago
they might have wanted to make the swords as fast and light and deadly as possible but with the crafting skills they had at the time they didn't do as well as other people are comparing it to.
also there is always a comprise when u make swords as long as they are using here.
ranger1134 2 years ago
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Nice tights. You are as lame as your sword fight. Why don't you do all of us a favor and forget your silly fantasy- just go through yourselves on your swords. Thanks
dougundam 2 years ago
actually tomma889123; that has been a debatable subject between me and my friend for a while, i'm scottish and i have both a flamberge and a katana because i love swords, and i've frequently tested all with different techniques/moves and fighting styles on a dummy i have with impact resistant plating(like wood, straw, and a punching bag in 1), and i've found that the bigger swords, with the right berserkers' rage, are able to strike VERY fast with ALOT of strength, better than the katana
Ardok555 2 years ago
Lol Katana win under seconds
Tomma889123 2 years ago
One good thrust or half-sword stab would have ended that in 3 seconds. Just get on the helmet/face shield so you CAN use practical, historic technique.... because when you're swinging steel at each other's naked melons... no one is going to try too hard.
UrbanNeanderthal 2 years ago
they didn't even aim for body lol aim for sword .. not even duel lol fucking trying sword out? diopshit
BAKAmember 2 years ago 2
Real ? Ha ha ha ! They just do all their possible not to hit the opponent !!!!
JuliendAnce 2 years ago
you know, i kind of what to go to a re-enactment now...i've never been to one. how are they?
GiantSnail 2 years ago
europian was powerful it it's own right. albeit no samurai knights where still pretty good
zombiesrcuming4u 2 years ago
Perhaps my comment was misconstrued a little, I wasn't suggesting that they make killing strikes at each other - these can be made at 50% speed or even less depending on the skill of the swordsmen, at which speed a blunt sword can't really do much harm. To accurately represent a fight they need to aim the blows so that they might connect if not stopped. If one of these guys fought and the other one simply stood still, still nobody would get hit :) I'd rather see slower but more accurate combat
Shuffledodo 2 years ago 2
hahahaha, real duel ????
dont be funny
and no two handed sword but longsword
slavuBOG 2 years ago
booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
GreyGooseVodka555 2 years ago
These swords are in my mind one and half hand, aren't they?
piczko1234 2 years ago 3
european style sword techniques are just plain ugly! very choppy!
JasonLIKESturtles 2 years ago
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agreed and 2 heavy.Asians make lighter better swords.
starzoc00 2 years ago
well the Knights Hospitallier made pretty decent rapiers, they even have hand guards that wrap around, which is awesome and light, better than the longswords used in in Crusades.
LingEntityNoobi 2 years ago
yes but the raipers had only one sharp tip.the Asian swords have a sleek one edge blade with a tip.They are light,strong blades.the only advantages i see in rapier are its elite hanguards and light blade.But if i think that your best chance in a real fight would be either a heavy,handguardless,two edge blade,knifes,or dual-weilding a raiper and Asian sword.
starzoc00 2 years ago
that would look wierd lol
LingEntityNoobi 2 years ago
I love it when anime/discovery channel "experts" spew their wisdom out. Keep on making a moron of yourself, it's quite entertaining.
Konane12 2 years ago 2
Most people who do reconstruction make this mistake, which is to just clash swords together. Every motion made should either a) be a killing/crippling strike (aimed at arms, head, neck, or legs primarily), b) be a 'beat' against the opponents weapon to clear a line to make a kill strike, or c) be a defence. These guys are just waving their blades, with the result that they make a lot of clanging and don't come close to actually hitting one another.
Shuffledodo 2 years ago 2
Because you're expecting them to kill each others? It's only for the show :P
idealogie 2 years ago 3
i suppose you dont have anythink to do fight medievla fighint so trust us, shuffledodo is right
realistic reconstruction mean hitting each other in plates or at least aiming at a body not in spacein front of fighter or aiming directly at a sword
slavuBOG 2 years ago
This is the annoying thing about "re-enactment" of course.. unless the technology is developed to give a fully protective layer to the neck, face and arm pits etc (all the vulnerable areas on the body), we will never truly see what medieval sword fighting was "really" like. At the moment you cannot just lunge at the head, for safety reasons. And slashing at plate armour is simply pointless. So good comment, but i feel that it's unrealistic to ask for more than stage fighting in re-enactment...
hunkyzombie 2 years ago
Wouldn't blocking an attack with your weapon ruin the blade?
anon4234 2 years ago
what else would you of done with it...?
sinzorak 2 years ago
Considering the fact that in most cultures, swords were the weapons of nobility due to how expensive they were to make, I'd say that I'd use it to try and go for a killing or maiming strike, and I'd use my much less expensive shield to block an attack, considering that was what my shield was made for.
anon4234 2 years ago
Or I would ride my opponent down and aim my cut for his neck, if I missed, I would simply keep my momentum and ride hard for the man behind him.
anon4234 2 years ago
this RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
zechs3 2 years ago
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WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE??? why are they fighting with swords, just fist fight if you are trying to be all cool and nice gay stances while fighitng, esp guy in white
bauncsu 2 years ago
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those people need a life
tashabeth101 2 years ago
It amazing how there are so many fantastic swordsmen out there willing to comment on things like this, thankyou
RevJay225 2 years ago
Show offs just a shpw no real work
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Vomitcake 2 years ago
geez, they move in such a rigid manner, not smooth and flowing then again but thats just my opinion, maybe im used to 2 weapon fighting with curved blades. after you see that at full speed everything else seems so... square? i dunno, still i guess they didnt have padding etc
ViolinSpaz 2 years ago
fucking losers
houstonl98 2 years ago
they have such a terrible fighting form. they are not fighting...they are playing.
cartoonpimp6 2 years ago 3
exactly!!
Onetnez 2 years ago
one of those guys on the background wears a great sallet!
0B0Eriec 2 years ago
those swords sound soft, they arent striking hard, me and my cousin go crazy and sometimes cause sparks and then have to re-sharpen our blades all over again D: lol
Onetnez 2 years ago
Omfg -.-
Bonkerbomber 2 years ago
its not choreographed, its free form, its just not full on because they are having a friendly spar with out any protective gear. and medieval colours were bright and vibrant, they had many types of dyes and cloth, go do some research
AngelisMortis01 3 years ago 2
Whats up with the red and yellow tights XD
flintrocks 3 years ago