im watching this for class..... and quite frankly.... i hate georgia history..... the class at least.... ugh okay im gonna go rock out to tunes isntead of watch this
Just to give some info regarding this event. When Abraham Lincoln called for a reconstruction of the south he only wanted a 10 percent of the people to give a loyalty oath and then they could be put back in the union. Radical conservatives, Thaddeus Stevens called for a more stricter apprach to let southern states back in the union. Lincoln wanted slavery ended but did not want blacks to be considered equal to whites. It was the conservatives that wanted more rights granted to the freedman.
@lrose1983 Lincolns contributions R still relevant. He had morals & principles even in the face of his demons reconciling racial oppression & never owned slaves. His memoirs reveal a man of character. Stevens could afford 2 be more radical as he wasn't Prez & I've little doubt had he been he would've suffered a Lincoln style execution likely much sooner than did Lincoln bcuz his views were more politically obvious in which case the CW never would've happened making the Eman Proc moot.
@wthjrtx1 Care to provide evidence as to why? I distinctly remember evidence showing that he was not, and the so-called "burning of Atlanta" was John Bell Hood's fault.
You'll accept a beating you donkey headcases keep pushing us. You liar. a T.V. show is a long way from truth. You might pay for the misdeeds of your tyrannical people. I pray my generation collects on this debt. You are a good tool to use to set it off.
@wthjrtx1 So you can't be bothered to provide evidence, and instead decide to start threatening me and insulting me. You'll be shocked to discover I'm blocking you from making comments. If you're not going to behave like a person, I'm not going to bother hearing your point of view.
@wthjrtx1 Sherman made a march into the south which decimated it. no longer Union territory he was able to do as he pleased during his Great March. It's just like being at war with another territory, you march through their land and destroy it. not considered terrorism.
@skordijhl You have a very selective definition of terrorism-so the Rape of Nanking you would not consider terrorism? I will settle for war crimes and Sherman would have been hanged if we applied the Nuremberg principles to his actions and to those of many of his troops.
@RPenta Actually, no. Sherman didn't burn anything, and took great care not to assault Southern civilians or pillage their property---even their slaves.
John Bell Hood set fire to Atlanta before evacuating. Don't know personally if it was accidental or intentional.
@RPenta thats like calling the allies terrorists for bombing Germany. there were two countries at war with one another. all is fair in love and war. but when your a small group or even a large group and are attacking a nation then thats terrorism
@wthjrtx1 I think you're wrong. What did he do that that bastard Quantrill and Blood Bill Anderson didn't do treefold? What he did on the march tom the sea was to endthewar the best way possible: makem the civilians tellm their government I'VE HAD ENOUGH! Sherman liked Southerners and the South.
ohaiojesse so right have right to be mad but the robbers and stuff can not be excused ay that son of a crack head who said the south isss all to blame is so wrong its all
if this was the deadliest think about the future i do think there will be hope but if came to me how they want id back slap the color off they face black white or any race but this is the past but anything can happen
@squidlord11 Yeah, and the regulations they were against were ones on fucking slavery. The whole reason for the south starting the war was because the rich souther plantation owners wanted to keep their slaves.
And yeah, they did seperate over state rights; THE RIGHT TO SLAVERY. Fuck you and fuck the South.
racism sucks.why did they think they were better than the blacks? if u ask me the reason why we have gang violance and robberies and rapes is because african americans are only giving them payback. the news say that bloods and crips are bad? they only ended like that because of what the conferderate states did around 160-70 years ago. i think they have the right to be angry
If things were equal, none of these crimes could have happened without equal retribution.
Let all Blacks know that being armed is the great equalizer.
All Black women should learn to shoot, martial arts, and engineering and operations management. All Black men too, but our women are the most precious.
"This is not the post-Civil War America envisioned by Abraham Lincoln."
LOL. But Lincoln DID envision this violence and racial conflict. Which is why Father Abraham wanted "emancipation and deportation". Send the "Darkies" to start a colony away from US soil...
@PrinceChaloner Spanish/ Portuguese=90% transatlantic slave trade in Americas. Slaves in u.s. south was 5% all the americas--why majority of ex-slaves speak Spanish throughout south americas. Canadians had slaves, btw. Why haven't U heard that? Union army 40% foreign born (paid mercenaries). Communist "48-ers" fought after failed 1848 rev in europe; Lincoln's SS was Pinkertons (He was a euro communist). Free yourself from t.v. and check out that thing called reality, LOL
@PrinceChaloner Who then later outlawed it... yeah your logic is flawless. You know the English weren't the only ones involved in the Slave Trade either.
Also people should realize that the largest number of members for racist organizations are in the Mid-west and West, not the south. Look at KKK rallies, the largest ones were in Indiana and Ohio. And currently I believe Washington State has the most members of a white supremacist group out there. Just a note. The South gets alot of flack for being racist like they are the only ones.
You're right... The South has had to publicly DEAL with racism, while other regions haven't. Especially in the North, where they have always had a superiority complex when it comes to the South. I heard one time that Pennsylvania is one of the leading states in terms of organized hate groups.
Slavery should be at the top of the LIST of causes. As long as people admit that there is a list and that slavery was not THE cause then I'm fine. The problem is that both sides say there is a THE cause or underlying to everything. If we go that route we can lay it on the doorstep of money or something. Sorry I just hate oversimplification of history and this has been oversimplified for ages.
Ha Ha Ha Ha these sick racist fools out better hope that Jesus Christ comes back soon or else I will not their worst nightmare but a monster to them. I hope interracial marriages grow in the most racist areas and they will either kneel before Jesus. Or they kneel before me. You fools have no idea what's coming. The civil war is the reason why i exist because both my parents met in the US Army. When the world see's me people will think of me as a messiah but I'm not.
No this is not the post war America envisioned by Lincoln.
It is well documented that Lincoln and most anti-slavery whites at that time wanted all blacks shipped back to Africa. Also the emancipation proclamation did nothing to end slavery in the North. What a skewed version of history this film presents.
though, one has to question the political liability of decolonization. the issue it still present today, be it in South America, or Africa, middle east.. the wars.. just never seem to end. Most people in these regions may blame the US, but personally.. its not really anyone fault, anymore.. just gotta keep living.. oh i apologize for the spamming.. just had a bizzare tirade.. the earthquakes in japan really muddled my brain..
But within the conventions of eastern and western histories.. colonialism is not new. The Modern state, particularly the European Union, the organistion of African Unity, it is a pretty new thing, that mind, America endorsed, via political, and economical persuasion, of decolonization, for which i must applaud the US, for. U gotta love the states.
Japan during the naval conventions post WW1, desired, equal naval capacity to the west. and failed. This only fueled, the political, and economic strains with regards Zaibatsu, and an increasingly militarist/fascist political sphere. I should probably apologize, for denominating the US as solo responsibility, for the opening up, industrialization, isolationist principles, were hence, militarism was born, through sheer protectionism and expansionism, a western ideal, in the eyes of the Japanese.
continuing; the advent of the locomotive, enthralled and enticed industrialization of japan. Industry, grew, so was the necessity of obtaining resources for this industry, Korea, manchuria, China, had by this time, a sense of liberalistic governance, much like Japan, due to western influence, via ofcourse trade. IT is absolutely normal for a nation, to protect is interests in its industry, and hence wealth, hence power. simply; Western C. = western industrial/political influence = wealth/power.
continuing; ON the intent of industry, political, social, preservation. The idea of isolationism, in the USA, in its history, and the idea of isolationism in the Japanese context, is distinctly similar, in part, in its policy be it domestic, or foreign, in self-preservation. Ideologically, western colonialism, instilled into the old order, prior to the Meiji, a sense of ideological, psycho-social change. The state, by the 1900s, became increasing, en strangled in industry.
but anyhow, no need to get sad about USA history, i mean, the british, Spanish, Portuguese, dutch, they colonized great swaths of the world, commiting genocide, murder, plunder.. destroying, entire civilization, for eh, gold, money, fame.. and power. It was thanks to the US, that Japan was opened up, in 1858, and thanks to Western colonialism and power, that Japan became a militarist state, leading to WW2, Hiroshima, and thanks again to the US, for modern day Japan, and nuclear power.. fukushima
@teddythebenny Ottoman Empire, Mongol Empire, Mao Tse-Tung's "Great Leap Forward" and "Cultural Revolution", Imperial Japan's "Rape of Nanking" and Unit 731. Don't be picking on the Europeans alone. There's plenty of atrocity to go around
@teddythebenny "It was thanks to the US, that Japan was opened up, in 1858, and thanks to Western colonialism and power, that Japan became a militarist state"
What are you talking about? What do you mean by "Japan was opened up"? How did Western colonialism make Japan into a militarist state?
go to wiki, read Matthew C. Perry, then go to wiki, and read about the modern Japanese state; then u might ask, yourself, im a paranoid Japanese nationalist, who is trying to denote history as a significance in part to western influence, hence mitigate responsibility of Japanese modern history in part to western influence. In historical narration, The Japanese modern state, from the Meiji era to the end of WW2, is a flux of democracy, fascism/socialism, and militarism.
@teddythebenny it has to happen sometime, but that's how we move on, if the US didn't have the mistakes of the past, and didn't learn from them, they wouldn't be the world power they are today
@Lachausis ..would u prefer i said nothing? would u prefer that i uttered not a word? debates, thoughts, ideas, become apparent, do they not from entwining words from each other? facts define the moral and ethical landscape around us, if one cannot define fact from fiction, how can one see truth, even in the slightest dimensions ? I may have the logic of a 5 year old, as you claim, but i would rather that, then be blinded, from knowing what the meaning of the ruins of history has led to.
@teddythebenny I apologize about that 5 year old thing. Anyway, I answered only to one of you comments, which alone was out of the whole context. There are many more comments from you and most are decent ones. Sorry, I should have read them all, but it's difficult when they are spread out. But you kind of imply USA is to be blamed for Fukusima? It was an accident. And I feel for Japan. Beautiful country, with most interesting history.
@Lachausis there is no basis, in blaming the USA. frankly, we are, all human beings, as such, are capable and will make mistakes.. that same flaw, is what makes history, society, and humanity, a ever changing entity in both mind, and in character.. never devoid of emotions, or ideals.
If you saw how poor white workers were treated in the north. It would put this in perspective. Children as young as 5 working for next to nothing in very dangerous conditions, 12 or more hours, 6 days a week! With no one to care for their health etc. It wasn't until "unions" fought another civil war in the north. That the white slaves in the north gained some freedom! Just tell the slaves they're free, and either work for the masters, or go to hell; and they'll believe they're not slaves!
this bowl shit the south do not start the war it was the blues yeack and the blues is the one that did the slaven the south was the good guy and the northen was the bad guy and for the kkk they can just go f**k them self the kkk is giveing the south a bad name
@MrTickleparty considering this documentary is about the American civil war, and slavery played a large part in the civil war, of course its going to focus on African Americans. if you want a documentary focusing on modern day slaves, I suggest you look for that here on youtube. Why would this program talk about that?
"This guys is talking like African Americans were the only race to suffer such horrendous tortur." Fool this documentary is not about the others who suffered, it is about this group. There are indeed other documentaries that talk about those other groups.
The fact is its not JUST about OWNING slaves, its about the racism that ruled the day. Slavery has been abolished for years but racism is still wide spread. Yes, not all confederates were fighting FOR slavery but they were fighting to protect a system that supported slavery. It is INCREDIBLY innaccurate to assume that the south was merely fighting for states rights. White supremacy was part of the southern way of life.
@MrBackoftheface In truth, slavery was never abolished. It was simply exported across the seas to other 3rd world countries. So called free trade zones in Jamaica are nothing more than slave camps. FOXCON facilities in China which works people 12 hours a day for 13 days straight is nothing more than a vast slave labor camp. Not to mention open pit mines in Africa and South America which employ child labor and work people in absolutely brutal conditions. Slavery never ended. It's alive and well.
@MrTickleparty look im done with this....u obviously thing it is alright for blacks to be enslaved and murdered....if u r really that unhappy with this period in history simply dont watch documentaries like this
@MrTickleparty please dont try to assume what i know...although the majority of whites did not own slaves they still helped operate a system that kept blacks down.poor whites worked as patrollers for instance and overseers.whats crazy is that you are truly defending white southerners for thier brutality against blacks at the time and telling blacks basically to get over it....anyway u r showing me ur true colors now...just take the white sheet cuz ur not fooling anybody
@MrTickleparty lol i have a good many family from the south and trust many southerners HATED BLACKS lol.unlike u i dont need to read cuz i have family that has lived it....and IMO the south got what they deserved if not more.....they commited acts of treason and brutality.maybe if it was ur family that actually went through this u would have a much different oppinion
@MrTickleparty nobody is saying ALL southerners were like this...i know many good white southerners myself.but u have to face facts after the civil war this is how it was in the south.it was an area of hostility racism and tension no matter how much u want to deny it.look in ur history books or read some of the accounts of blacks living in the south around this time....it seems to me u r trying to downplay what blacks went through while justifying how many southerners acted
If this killing of the black guy is true,, you must ask youself... How can anyone be so mean spirited, heartless, and immoral,, to shoot and kill a man who you demand ''serves' you.
The US was a violent society in many ways. And in many ways, those violent tendecies are still here.
Just watch television. All the shows deal iwth crime, murder, killing, ect.
@MrTickleparty the fact of the matter is that THIS DOCUMENTARY is talking about the post south civil war and yes these things did happen whether u want to beleive them or not.ur comments show ur own biasness.what ur doing is pure stupidity....its like me watching a documentary on the holucaust and then saying that the documentary is biased against nazis!!!!LMAO
you are correct. this doc does makes the South look bad... because its about RECONSTRUCTION. the south did some fucked up shit during that time. and you are also correct. Blacks are not the only ones that have been subject to slavery. But so far i have not heard anyone argue they have been the only ones. i think i might agree with you but i'm not sure what your point is. cool name though! lol
In my opinion, when it comes to america on american history it's always bias. @MrTickleparty watch the war of 1812 documentary if you like history and watch it your mind will groan in the patriotism of the documentary. Could be the most bias documentary ever made trying to be historically accurate
This video makes me feel good on how far America and the world has progressed in the past 150 years.Give me hope that all the evil things present in 21st century can also be eradicated.
@MrTickleparty and what's wrong with immigrants? you and i are both from nations of immigrants and they have always been the wave of the future. they need u, u need them, quit hating start appreciating. we are one world, we all need each other...yeah proud bleeding heart lib here :)
@MrTickleparty not about color? black people make everything about race? got that's the dumbest thing ever!! sry but most of american history has A LOT to do with skin tone. blacks were forced here to work against their will. mexicans had thier land stolen from them. native americans were virtually wiped out by the american army and our stupid ideas of manifest destiny. on the whole, people of color and esp. blacks in america were oppressed violently, and ur stance just defends racists..
@MrTickleparty yeah, racist white southerners did not want progressive-minded northerners freeing black slaves, making them citizens, giving them the vote, and putting them on a level of equality with them, that's what they saw as 'taking control of people' or so-called northern agression. my point is FUCK THEM AND THIER EXCUSES!
btw im from washington DC area, one of the most diverse regions in the world. A vast majority of my friends are immigrants and know US history way better than u
@MrTickleparty nope, but i know for a fact that ur a racist. u respond to a respnse about american history by making crazy generalizations about black people. ur just not gonna feel better until u can eliminate race and slavery as causes of the civil war. and if people like me make everything about race maybe it's because people like u want to deny it even exists. and whatever race u are, if ur living in canada i can safely assume that u or ur family are immigrants too so stop hating man..
@MrTickleparty yes the civil war was about banks and factories, money and power. but it was about factory labor VS slave labor, the 'states rights' arugment used to justify keeping humans enslaved, and the shitloads of money the south made off of slavery and the banks that financed the whole institution. All of your stated reasons for the civil war are in one way or another connected to slavery.
ps: detroit is not worthless. it is the victim of capitalist corporate greeed...
@MrTickleparty actually we don't trivialize all the other cultures, we don't ignore other people around the world who are struggling for human rights, and no we're not all crying out for repairations. all ur token black friends who say we are are dumb-ass uncle toms. i guess you have about 5 (or less) black friends and you believe they they can all speak for the entire black american race. believe me they don't.
@MrTickleparty news flash: you're not going to get us to even listen to you about the haiti slavery issue by demonizing african-americans and attempting to trivialize our struggle. ur offensive and pathetic..
@MrTickleparty actually know my history very well. urs too. and apparently, canadians are supposed to be more intelligent and enlightened. u clearly are the exception.
@MrTickleparty omg really? the civil war had nothing to do with slavery? ok what redneck have u been sleeping with? i guess those dumb hicks were killing and burning black people in mass only because they didn't want the banks and factories to take over. u know, maybe u should do a full study of american history (from like, everyone's perspective) before you make an ass of urself in the comments section...
@mrtickleypart if you are from canada how do you know? I am an African amerian history major and from what I've read in my text this seems pretty acurate.And just because its common does not make it okay and we should learn about it. AND why are you offended and hurt by facts... :/
@MrTickleparty : I know this is not the most ignorant comment ever b/c you'll just keep talking. Why is the program biased? Because it showed a graphic and accurate portrayal of the vigilante violence in the post-Civil War South? No we were not the only race to suffer slavery and torture, but frankly, we suffered more than anyone else, and yes, I mean anyone else.
ps: no as an African-American I never experienced slavery, but I along with most of black America still suffer it's legacy.
One item that should be noted is that after the war the northern abolitionists did everything they could to bring disgrace upon the white people of the south, and it made them react violently.
@mwondu totally with u. that's what american history fails to admit. a whole race of people treated like subhumans, and once they were forced to treat them like humans, the rednecks were pretty much committed to wiping them off the face of the planet. granted there were sympathetic white southerners, even some who had fought for the south. but they were seriously in the minority..
@EmpathyWorks i dont think she hung herself because she didnt like black folk. she just didnt want to bow down to an oppressive tyrant and government. i wouldnt have either.
@greatwhateveryournameis . . . sorry didn't mean to call all southerners scum just so everyone knows anyway your response really just doesn't make a whole lot of sense, and does it really not interest you that everyone has responded negatively to you.
@shishkabob789: The only question which is here of any interest is whether you do deny the least syllable of your addition or not!
Besides: It would be quite foolish to take the positive or negative responses as a measure for anything, unless one wants to become socially agreeable but only boring people do strive to do so; the others just speak their mind.
Oh you dumb bitches! "King" Abraham? He won the fucking election. He won the fucking re-election. He wasn't a fucking king and he wasn't a fucking tyrant. Shocking that you learn NOTHING from the VERY DOCUMENTARY YOU ARE COMMENTING ON: If Lincoln's version of Reconstruction had been implemented, all this shit wouldn't have happened.
But that's just my opinion
Go ahead and keep arguing, though.
Also, Lincoln did not conquer Africa, so he cannot be "Africanus"
@BloodiestMargie: Firstly: One should not get angry so quickly; secondly one should not use vulgar and offensive terms or names; thirdly the name King Abraham Africanus I was taken from a contemporary pamphlet which mocks and insults the said person, by implying that he tries to style himself as king; and for that reason John Wilkes Booth, plain well-meaning soul, whom fair befall in heaven 'amongst happy souls, killed him later. So you cannot claim that this name is unjustified.
@BloodiestMargie: And all these things would have happened anyway, as Lincoln could not have allowed the Southerners to continue slavery by the black codes, which were created after the war was over (the only solution might have been either to compensate the former slave owners, thus placating them, or to move the former slaves to the North); and as I said above the addition Africanus is not a Roman honour for a conqueror but a rather derogative slander against the person it was given to.
@BloodiestMargie i agree with u. i think lincoln's reconstruction plan would have been much more fair than either the racist policies of johnson or the vengeful policies of the radical republicans. i think he would have allowed both african-americans and ex-rebels the vote. He would have made clear to radicals in his party that the ex-rebels needed to be embraced not punished, and made it clear to the ex-rebels that they were in a new world where they had to treat blacks as equals..
Well its my first youtube hating . . . @greatgrumbledook you are disgusting ignorant southern scum that deserves to have a taste (whipping?constant fear?endless work?) of what you defend, slavery was disgusting, lincoln was a hero that saved the nation from impending doom and yet racist pigs like you still bring up a matter resolved 150 years ago by hundreds of thousands of deaths
@shishkabob789: Fellow, I know thee as a knave; a rascal; an eater of broken meats; a base, proud, shallow, beggarly, three-suited, hundred-pound, filthy, worsted-stocking knave; a lily-livered, action-taking knave, a whoreson, glass-gazing, super-serviceable finical rogue; one-trunk-inheriting slave; one that wouldst be a bawd, in way of good service, and art nothing but the composition of a knave, beggar, coward, pandar, and the son and heir of a mongrel bitch:
@shishkabob789: …one whom I will beat into clamorous whining, if thou deniest the least syllable of thy addition.
While King Abraham Africanus I may be a hero for the Yankees but for the Southerners he is what Oliver Cromwell is to the Irish or Genghis Kahn to the Chinese: A mortal enemy; but feel not too sure: The upcoming downfall of the USA as the global hegemony power may give the South finally the long desired opportunity to restore its rights and liberties.
A lot of modern whining but then again: The South have been illegally invaded, devastated and morally terrorized; plus the North has declared the war to free the slaves, so it was natural to attack and upbraid the slaves; attacking the foul Northern occupation troops was no opportunity; had the Southerners to do that they would have done so in the War of Succession; it maybe not very nice but pretty understandable; as for the war Lincoln and his minions are to blame alone.
@GreatGrumbledook You can't justify what the post-war insurgents did. It wasn't just attacking Northern occupation soldiers; They massacred blacks, forced many free blacks into slavery again, and killed anyone who supported freed blacks or the Union army.
The administrations of Johnson and Grant badly mishandled Reconstruction. If anything, Lincoln's Reconstruction would have been far more generous, benevolent, and forgiving. But the violent southerners are also to blame
@BloodiestMargie: You should make a clear distinction between justifying an action and understanding it; I can understand why the Southerners attacked the freed slaves, but then again: The South had been conquered and oppressed, slavery was a legal institution in the South, the owners had not been compensated and above all: Slavery was the word of war, so the Southern aggressive feelings against the Blacks, especially as they were around everywhere.
@BloodiestMargie: Further more the Northerners have given the Blacks the right to vote and made them thus citizens in the South, without the consent of the Southerners; while denying many former Confederate soldiers and citizens the right to vote and hold office; so the North did everything to incite the Southerners against the Blacks; while do I think the South should have switched to irregular war like the Spanish did against Napoleon but that would have lead to even more gore.
@BloodiestMargie: Ever since the March of Sherman, which did unleash a wave of wanton destruction in the Southern heartlands this war had become a savage modern war, leaning that it was no longer about armies fighting it out in battles and sieges but by breaking the will of the enemy by attacking the civilian population, which was seen again in World War II against Germany and Japan or in the Korean and Vietnam war. That the South would react thus was pretty predictable.
@GreatGrumbledook disenfranchising confederates who fought to seceed (which was treasonous,) was pretty humane. If those southerners had been tried for treason, and hung or shot, which was typical protocol at the time for treason (sorry, Billy-bob, but the confederacy lost the war, its a fact, no matter how much modern day yokels still do not want to admit or acknowledge that). What you advocate is terrorism, plain and simple. Just like your meemaw was wrong, so are you.
@WMDramitinos: Only the English had the right to do this in the foul rebellion of the new England colonists; but afterwards the colonies became independent, though they indulged in the stupidity to form some sort of union and ended up to be oppressed and exploited by a bank controlled mockery of a central government; while I highly recommend the Southeners to read the book On War by the German philosopher Carl von Clausewitz, so that they may learn that a defeat is not the end of the world:
"he who is pressed on all sides expecting little help from things which promise none, will place his last and only reliance in the moral ascendancy which despair gives to courage, and look upon the greatest daring as the greatest wisdom,—at the same time employ the assistance of subtle stratagem, and if he does not succeed, will find in an honourable downfall the right to rise hereafter."
Therefore the time has come for the South to forge revenge in the fires of burning Washington and New York!
@GreatGrumbledook.... You forge your revenge, buddy, I hope YOU are the leader of the southern revolution and I hope our paths cross once you have begun your revolution.... Oh wait, southerners are too fat stupid and lazy to ever get up off their couches and take any action... its much easier to spread irrational thoughts using the internet, where you never have to face anyone who you address. If you were not a coward, you would post a video of yourself calling for southern revenge.
@WMDramitinos: The Southerners will not I, though do much favour and support their righteous cause, I am not their Lord Byron, so I will not depart from fair France to aide their struggle for liberty and vengeance; save matters here in Europe will be solved with a much greater speed, but repulsing the Third Assault Wave of the vile Camel Merchant Cult will take some time; and then there is still the danger of China rising to global hegemony; the false Napoleon should have aided the South.
@GreatGrumbledook... and sorry, but if the English had the right to quell a rebellion where colonists are trying to secede from Great Britain, how is that different from The president of the United States (of which EVERY southern state was a member by choice) quelling a rebellion where rebels are trying to secede from the United States? Is it not the right of the government to protect its interests and preserve the nation? Keep on reading guy, one day you will get it.
@WMDramitinos: Why? Did you get into a fight with one of your dumb friends that you do now argue with an idiot? Maybe it is just your mirror image! And you are wrong: The English King is the deputy elected by the Lord, while Abraham Africanus was an impostor and an usurper, the South never accepted his election, as the fraud was even more obvious back than then it is today; besides the right to secede anytime is invulnerable and had the South anticipated this they would have never joined.
@GreatGrumbledook Maybe the reason many Southerners didn't accept his election is because many Southern polling booths DIDN'T EVEN HAVE HIS NAME AVAILABLE ON THE BALLOT!
REGARDLESS, he was STILL elected by a MAJORITY of the United States citizenry, as well as a majority in the electoral college. It was not a Tilden v Hayes or Gore v Bush; Lincoln has the MAJORITY of votes of ALL the other candidates.
@GreatGrumbledook And no offense to you Southerners, but you have ONLY YOURSELVES to blame for Lincoln's election if you were so heatedly opposed to him; Southerners failed to unite and the Democratic party ran two candidates---both of which combined outnumbered the votes Lincoln received.
Irrelevant. Lincoln committed no crime and was fairly elected.
@BloodiestMargie: I think the problems runs a bit deeper [and while a considerable part of the South belonged indeed to New France, I am not a Southerner]: Ever since the so-called Nullification Crisis under the rule of the Indian Slayer Andrew Jackson the question if the states or the federal government was to rule; the great mistake of the South was it not to fight it out back in 1832, when the balance of powers was more in favour of the South, due to immigration and industrial deployment.
@BloodiestMargie: This proves by the way the teachings once more Machiavelli:
"I answer for the reasons given above that a blunder ought never to be perpetrated to avoid war, because it is not to be avoided, but is only deferred to your disadvantage."
The war was sooner or later unavoidable due to the mistrust and hatred and above all abolition fanatics like John Brown. So far the North and its union were happy with their victory but this may not last, considering the recent hostility...
@GreatGrumbledook If the southerners were conquered and oppressed, what does that say about the slaves, you moron. How can you argue that slavery was a legitimate thing, but complain about oppression of white southerners? How inbred are you? Really!?!?!?!???
@WMDramitinos: Well, I wish Monsieur Robespierre were present here to give you uneducated swine a lesson about the true meaning of terrorism; besides: A irregular war is no proscription but an act of fighting; and the sophistry about slavery does not work: First it was alright when it came to fight against the English and to create the USA, but later it was amiss? How came? Was it because the USA would have neither won independence nor be founded without the South?
@WMDramitinos: Second if the North was really so in pity of the slaves I guess the Southerners would have given them to them in exchange for the abolition of the union and some financial compensation, which would have been a lot cheaper than the bloody war; and third: If the war was about abolishing slavery, why was slavery than still be legal in the states sided with the North? Moreover: Why did King Abraham Africanus I not declare it to be his sole war goal in 1861 straight away?
@GreatGrumbledook... Sorry chief, but without slavery, the southern way of life was KAPUT... no amount of financial compensation would have prevented a war. Statements like King Abraham Africanus just shows what an ignorant hillbilly you are. I have broken my number one rule, which is never argue with an idiot. Even if he can cite Robespierre or von Clausewitz. So, congratulations, you are DUMB! if you ever have your rebellion, let me know what state you are in, because that is where I will come
@WMDramitinos How is being called "Africanus" an insult? As far as my history knows, the most well-known Africanus was Publius Cornelius Scipio Africanus, and he was a war hero and a great man who had an unfortunately shitty political career.
Or was he being racist in associating Lincoln with Africa and black people?
@hardcorefakes12: No more or less than good old Aristotle does: "For if every instrument could accomplish its own work, obeying or anticipating the will of others (...) if, in like manner, the shuttle would weave and the plectrum touch the lyre without a hand to guide them, chief workmen would not want servants, nor masters slaves." - so machines and robots make it obsolete, now. But why do you ask?
@hardcorefakes12: On what grounds? Since slavery is not restricted to any race but was both practiced and suffered by all races during the times I cannot see any connection between the rather obscure term of racism and the institution of slavery.
@GreatGrumbledook Then you require more education on the subject of slavery. There's a reason black people made up pretty much the ENTIRE slave population of America in the 1800s. Look up "Paternalism". This wasn't some kind of secret or something you can wildly interpret any way you wish.
@BloodiestMargie: And if I would be nasty I would demand that you give the reason; but as I am a rather kindly person I will unveiled the secret: After the downfall of the Roman Empire and with the rise of the realm of the Franks the Church objected enslaving any Christians, which was virtually banned since the days of Charlemagne; making slavery extinct in Europe; but after the discovery of the Americans and the exploration of Africa, the Spanish and Portuguese were able to acquire slaves.
@BloodiestMargie: The English adopted the slave trade later and so came it to be that the slave population in their colonies were of African descent; and from that given fact the fancy new race theories were linked to that; especially since the institution of slavery were questioned by the abolitionist faction and so the ideology of white supremacy served as a justification for upholding slavery, which was linked to serious economic interests, but it was not the cause of the situation.
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jamierichardson94 4 days ago
im watching this for class..... and quite frankly.... i hate georgia history..... the class at least.... ugh okay im gonna go rock out to tunes isntead of watch this
queentwilight14 2 weeks ago
those confederate fuckers
russianseashell5 1 month ago
Just to give some info regarding this event. When Abraham Lincoln called for a reconstruction of the south he only wanted a 10 percent of the people to give a loyalty oath and then they could be put back in the union. Radical conservatives, Thaddeus Stevens called for a more stricter apprach to let southern states back in the union. Lincoln wanted slavery ended but did not want blacks to be considered equal to whites. It was the conservatives that wanted more rights granted to the freedman.
lrose1983 1 month ago
@lrose1983 Lincolns contributions R still relevant. He had morals & principles even in the face of his demons reconciling racial oppression & never owned slaves. His memoirs reveal a man of character. Stevens could afford 2 be more radical as he wasn't Prez & I've little doubt had he been he would've suffered a Lincoln style execution likely much sooner than did Lincoln bcuz his views were more politically obvious in which case the CW never would've happened making the Eman Proc moot.
MRrhythmsNflows 3 days ago
They were two seperate countries at war. War crimes are war crimes. Something the States have always seemed fond of...even today...very sad...
shilltheshillXXX 1 month ago
fuck the federals
hmt741 1 month ago
That's a pretty inaccurate map at 3:10. Kentucky and Missouri never ceded to the Confederacy.
jon00769 2 months ago
Bull Butter. Sherman was Americas first Terrorist!!!!
I was born in Pine Bluff Arkansas...
wthjrtx1 2 months ago
@wthjrtx1 Care to provide evidence as to why? I distinctly remember evidence showing that he was not, and the so-called "burning of Atlanta" was John Bell Hood's fault.
BloodiestMargie 2 months ago 2
@BloodiestMargie
Dont fence with me. You uploaded the video. Thats it. Thank you. Yankee.
We know who did what. You read about it...merry christmas from Dixie!!!
wthjrtx1 2 months ago
@wthjrtx1 I accept your surrender.
BloodiestMargie 2 months ago 4
@BloodiestMargie
You'll accept a beating you donkey headcases keep pushing us. You liar. a T.V. show is a long way from truth. You might pay for the misdeeds of your tyrannical people. I pray my generation collects on this debt. You are a good tool to use to set it off.
wthjrtx1 2 months ago
@wthjrtx1 So you can't be bothered to provide evidence, and instead decide to start threatening me and insulting me. You'll be shocked to discover I'm blocking you from making comments. If you're not going to behave like a person, I'm not going to bother hearing your point of view.
BloodiestMargie 2 months ago
@wthjrtx1
you are fucking stupid
Sherman did what he had to do.
phanster96 2 months ago
@wthjrtx1 SHERMAN DIDN'T MARCH FAR ENOUGH , YOU'RE NEXT MOTHERFUCKER
winchesteranacom 1 month ago
@wthjrtx1 Sherman made a march into the south which decimated it. no longer Union territory he was able to do as he pleased during his Great March. It's just like being at war with another territory, you march through their land and destroy it. not considered terrorism.
skordijhl 1 month ago
@skordijhl You have a very selective definition of terrorism-so the Rape of Nanking you would not consider terrorism? I will settle for war crimes and Sherman would have been hanged if we applied the Nuremberg principles to his actions and to those of many of his troops.
RPenta 1 month ago
@RPenta Actually, no. Sherman didn't burn anything, and took great care not to assault Southern civilians or pillage their property---even their slaves.
John Bell Hood set fire to Atlanta before evacuating. Don't know personally if it was accidental or intentional.
BloodiestMargie 1 month ago
@RPenta thats like calling the allies terrorists for bombing Germany. there were two countries at war with one another. all is fair in love and war. but when your a small group or even a large group and are attacking a nation then thats terrorism
skordijhl 1 month ago
@skordijhl Not sure about all's fair in love but all is NOT FAIR IN WAR-THANK YOU MEIN FUHRER! Or should I call you Comrade Stalin?
RPenta 1 month ago
@wthjrtx1 I think you're wrong. What did he do that that bastard Quantrill and Blood Bill Anderson didn't do treefold? What he did on the march tom the sea was to endthewar the best way possible: makem the civilians tellm their government I'VE HAD ENOUGH! Sherman liked Southerners and the South.
skudaarkaat1 1 month ago
Had John not shot Abraham, the reconstruction period would have gone so much smoother.
Issaquan5 3 months ago
ohaiojesse so right have right to be mad but the robbers and stuff can not be excused ay that son of a crack head who said the south isss all to blame is so wrong its all
mind1pschic 3 months ago
hey icemanor dude utalk a little to much but agree with Some of whatu said
mind1pschic 3 months ago
u now what mascres just get really retard these days over video games o god moms have fights over toys for babys
mind1pschic 3 months ago
if this was the deadliest think about the future i do think there will be hope but if came to me how they want id back slap the color off they face black white or any race but this is the past but anything can happen
icemanor80 3 months ago
if the south won that war earth would have end it five years ago
icemanor80 3 months ago
@icemanor80 i really agree to that
mind1pschic 3 months ago
its a big faulty line just think about now wonder why black people like this these days guns and other things
icemanor80 3 months ago
this is very sad both for blacks whites and latinos
icemanor80 3 months ago
@squidlord11 Yeah, and the regulations they were against were ones on fucking slavery. The whole reason for the south starting the war was because the rich souther plantation owners wanted to keep their slaves.
And yeah, they did seperate over state rights; THE RIGHT TO SLAVERY. Fuck you and fuck the South.
xxMrFablexx 4 months ago
I dont owe no black man, woman, nor child my sypathy!
TheGefro 4 months ago
This is a great video of the displaying the evils that the colonial species brought to the world even to this day
DIUSREXENTERRA 4 months ago
racism sucks.why did they think they were better than the blacks? if u ask me the reason why we have gang violance and robberies and rapes is because african americans are only giving them payback. the news say that bloods and crips are bad? they only ended like that because of what the conferderate states did around 160-70 years ago. i think they have the right to be angry
ohaiojesse 4 months ago
Back when the history channel actually discussed real historical subjects...
RickRudesMustache 5 months ago
Reconstruction is simply destruction.
branman864 5 months ago
Whites had guns. Blacks did not.
If things were equal, none of these crimes could have happened without equal retribution.
Let all Blacks know that being armed is the great equalizer.
All Black women should learn to shoot, martial arts, and engineering and operations management. All Black men too, but our women are the most precious.
We Black men are expendable in comparison.
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"This is not the post-Civil War America envisioned by Abraham Lincoln."
LOL. But Lincoln DID envision this violence and racial conflict. Which is why Father Abraham wanted "emancipation and deportation". Send the "Darkies" to start a colony away from US soil...
sad
S2Cents 6 months ago
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S2Cents 6 months ago
Another comment... Who ever that baldheaded basterd that said the South is too blame, is a complete IDIOT, History channel hasnt a clue.
ulcohatchee1959 7 months ago
@ulcohatchee1959 The South IS to blame; imposing their slave-laws on the North among other things. That doesn't mean they're entirely at fault.
BloodiestMargie 7 months ago
@BloodiestMargie blame the English for bringing slavery to the Americas
PrinceChaloner 4 months ago
@PrinceChaloner Sumbitch I'll blame you, how's that feel
BloodiestMargie 4 months ago 2
@PrinceChaloner Spanish/ Portuguese=90% transatlantic slave trade in Americas. Slaves in u.s. south was 5% all the americas--why majority of ex-slaves speak Spanish throughout south americas. Canadians had slaves, btw. Why haven't U heard that? Union army 40% foreign born (paid mercenaries). Communist "48-ers" fought after failed 1848 rev in europe; Lincoln's SS was Pinkertons (He was a euro communist). Free yourself from t.v. and check out that thing called reality, LOL
westchesterny 4 months ago
@PrinceChaloner Who then later outlawed it... yeah your logic is flawless. You know the English weren't the only ones involved in the Slave Trade either.
FNGLHR 2 months ago
@BloodiestMargie Actually a failed Union post war policy is to blame.
jon00769 2 months ago
Abraham Lincoln was a fool and in return got exactly what he deserved.
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bazzatheblue 5 months ago
Also people should realize that the largest number of members for racist organizations are in the Mid-west and West, not the south. Look at KKK rallies, the largest ones were in Indiana and Ohio. And currently I believe Washington State has the most members of a white supremacist group out there. Just a note. The South gets alot of flack for being racist like they are the only ones.
Sakraida82 7 months ago
@Sakraida82
You're right... The South has had to publicly DEAL with racism, while other regions haven't. Especially in the North, where they have always had a superiority complex when it comes to the South. I heard one time that Pennsylvania is one of the leading states in terms of organized hate groups.
BSNFabricating 6 months ago
Slavery should be at the top of the LIST of causes. As long as people admit that there is a list and that slavery was not THE cause then I'm fine. The problem is that both sides say there is a THE cause or underlying to everything. If we go that route we can lay it on the doorstep of money or something. Sorry I just hate oversimplification of history and this has been oversimplified for ages.
Sakraida82 7 months ago
Ha Ha Ha Ha these sick racist fools out better hope that Jesus Christ comes back soon or else I will not their worst nightmare but a monster to them. I hope interracial marriages grow in the most racist areas and they will either kneel before Jesus. Or they kneel before me. You fools have no idea what's coming. The civil war is the reason why i exist because both my parents met in the US Army. When the world see's me people will think of me as a messiah but I'm not.
powerman103 7 months ago
No this is not the post war America envisioned by Lincoln.
It is well documented that Lincoln and most anti-slavery whites at that time wanted all blacks shipped back to Africa. Also the emancipation proclamation did nothing to end slavery in the North. What a skewed version of history this film presents.
tittiger 7 months ago
@tittiger There was no slavery in the north.
xxMrFablexx 4 months ago
THE SOUTH WILL NEVER RISE AGAIN. I SIMPLY HATE PEABRAIN RACISTS FOR THEIR COWARDNESS AND HURTING MEN FOR NO REASON.
TheRapper10000 7 months ago
he would not have shot that slave , thats money he was shooting ! better to knock him around till he does what he is told !
dave2806 8 months ago
Lol I youtube civil war and get US civil war? Lol who cares about this shit :/ gief british civil war that actually mattered.
AnnabelLolita 8 months ago
though, one has to question the political liability of decolonization. the issue it still present today, be it in South America, or Africa, middle east.. the wars.. just never seem to end. Most people in these regions may blame the US, but personally.. its not really anyone fault, anymore.. just gotta keep living.. oh i apologize for the spamming.. just had a bizzare tirade.. the earthquakes in japan really muddled my brain..
teddythebenny 8 months ago
But within the conventions of eastern and western histories.. colonialism is not new. The Modern state, particularly the European Union, the organistion of African Unity, it is a pretty new thing, that mind, America endorsed, via political, and economical persuasion, of decolonization, for which i must applaud the US, for. U gotta love the states.
teddythebenny 8 months ago
Japan during the naval conventions post WW1, desired, equal naval capacity to the west. and failed. This only fueled, the political, and economic strains with regards Zaibatsu, and an increasingly militarist/fascist political sphere. I should probably apologize, for denominating the US as solo responsibility, for the opening up, industrialization, isolationist principles, were hence, militarism was born, through sheer protectionism and expansionism, a western ideal, in the eyes of the Japanese.
teddythebenny 8 months ago
continuing; the advent of the locomotive, enthralled and enticed industrialization of japan. Industry, grew, so was the necessity of obtaining resources for this industry, Korea, manchuria, China, had by this time, a sense of liberalistic governance, much like Japan, due to western influence, via ofcourse trade. IT is absolutely normal for a nation, to protect is interests in its industry, and hence wealth, hence power. simply; Western C. = western industrial/political influence = wealth/power.
teddythebenny 8 months ago
continuing; ON the intent of industry, political, social, preservation. The idea of isolationism, in the USA, in its history, and the idea of isolationism in the Japanese context, is distinctly similar, in part, in its policy be it domestic, or foreign, in self-preservation. Ideologically, western colonialism, instilled into the old order, prior to the Meiji, a sense of ideological, psycho-social change. The state, by the 1900s, became increasing, en strangled in industry.
teddythebenny 8 months ago
but anyhow, no need to get sad about USA history, i mean, the british, Spanish, Portuguese, dutch, they colonized great swaths of the world, commiting genocide, murder, plunder.. destroying, entire civilization, for eh, gold, money, fame.. and power. It was thanks to the US, that Japan was opened up, in 1858, and thanks to Western colonialism and power, that Japan became a militarist state, leading to WW2, Hiroshima, and thanks again to the US, for modern day Japan, and nuclear power.. fukushima
teddythebenny 8 months ago
@teddythebenny Ottoman Empire, Mongol Empire, Mao Tse-Tung's "Great Leap Forward" and "Cultural Revolution", Imperial Japan's "Rape of Nanking" and Unit 731. Don't be picking on the Europeans alone. There's plenty of atrocity to go around
BloodiestMargie 8 months ago 7
@BloodiestMargie well in anycase, the world is sad sad place.
teddythebenny 8 months ago
@teddythebenny "It was thanks to the US, that Japan was opened up, in 1858, and thanks to Western colonialism and power, that Japan became a militarist state"
What are you talking about? What do you mean by "Japan was opened up"? How did Western colonialism make Japan into a militarist state?
KayBeeEee1983 8 months ago in playlist Civil War
go to wiki, read Matthew C. Perry, then go to wiki, and read about the modern Japanese state; then u might ask, yourself, im a paranoid Japanese nationalist, who is trying to denote history as a significance in part to western influence, hence mitigate responsibility of Japanese modern history in part to western influence. In historical narration, The Japanese modern state, from the Meiji era to the end of WW2, is a flux of democracy, fascism/socialism, and militarism.
teddythebenny 8 months ago
@teddythebenny it has to happen sometime, but that's how we move on, if the US didn't have the mistakes of the past, and didn't learn from them, they wouldn't be the world power they are today
puchy110 8 months ago
@teddythebenny You have a logic of 5 year old. You grab few facts from history book and call yourself a professor.
Lachausis 3 months ago
@Lachausis ..would u prefer i said nothing? would u prefer that i uttered not a word? debates, thoughts, ideas, become apparent, do they not from entwining words from each other? facts define the moral and ethical landscape around us, if one cannot define fact from fiction, how can one see truth, even in the slightest dimensions ? I may have the logic of a 5 year old, as you claim, but i would rather that, then be blinded, from knowing what the meaning of the ruins of history has led to.
teddythebenny 3 months ago
@teddythebenny I apologize about that 5 year old thing. Anyway, I answered only to one of you comments, which alone was out of the whole context. There are many more comments from you and most are decent ones. Sorry, I should have read them all, but it's difficult when they are spread out. But you kind of imply USA is to be blamed for Fukusima? It was an accident. And I feel for Japan. Beautiful country, with most interesting history.
Lachausis 3 months ago
@Lachausis there is no basis, in blaming the USA. frankly, we are, all human beings, as such, are capable and will make mistakes.. that same flaw, is what makes history, society, and humanity, a ever changing entity in both mind, and in character.. never devoid of emotions, or ideals.
teddythebenny 3 months ago
didnt know americans, had such a sad sad sad sad sad history..
teddythebenny 8 months ago
@teddythebenny It gets worse =D
BloodiestMargie 8 months ago
@BloodiestMargie there's still the future!!
natdavi 4 months ago
@teddythebenny stick around for a couple years its going to get a lot worse! Civil War its more like evryone for themselfs hahahaha
TheGefro 4 months ago
If you saw how poor white workers were treated in the north. It would put this in perspective. Children as young as 5 working for next to nothing in very dangerous conditions, 12 or more hours, 6 days a week! With no one to care for their health etc. It wasn't until "unions" fought another civil war in the north. That the white slaves in the north gained some freedom! Just tell the slaves they're free, and either work for the masters, or go to hell; and they'll believe they're not slaves!
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Futurecop2012 9 months ago
this bowl shit the south do not start the war it was the blues yeack and the blues is the one that did the slaven the south was the good guy and the northen was the bad guy and for the kkk they can just go f**k them self the kkk is giveing the south a bad name
awrice1 9 months ago
@MrTickleparty considering this documentary is about the American civil war, and slavery played a large part in the civil war, of course its going to focus on African Americans. if you want a documentary focusing on modern day slaves, I suggest you look for that here on youtube. Why would this program talk about that?
ksb78 9 months ago
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alexamerling20 9 months ago
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alexamerling20 9 months ago
"This guys is talking like African Americans were the only race to suffer such horrendous tortur." Fool this documentary is not about the others who suffered, it is about this group. There are indeed other documentaries that talk about those other groups.
shebababy10 9 months ago
The fact is its not JUST about OWNING slaves, its about the racism that ruled the day. Slavery has been abolished for years but racism is still wide spread. Yes, not all confederates were fighting FOR slavery but they were fighting to protect a system that supported slavery. It is INCREDIBLY innaccurate to assume that the south was merely fighting for states rights. White supremacy was part of the southern way of life.
MrBackoftheface 9 months ago 2
@MrBackoftheface In truth, slavery was never abolished. It was simply exported across the seas to other 3rd world countries. So called free trade zones in Jamaica are nothing more than slave camps. FOXCON facilities in China which works people 12 hours a day for 13 days straight is nothing more than a vast slave labor camp. Not to mention open pit mines in Africa and South America which employ child labor and work people in absolutely brutal conditions. Slavery never ended. It's alive and well.
DoNotCiv 3 months ago
@DoNotCiv Best way of describeing all that Ive ever heard.
selfdefensepath 3 months ago
@MrTickleparty look im done with this....u obviously thing it is alright for blacks to be enslaved and murdered....if u r really that unhappy with this period in history simply dont watch documentaries like this
LordTariq83 9 months ago
@MrTickleparty please dont try to assume what i know...although the majority of whites did not own slaves they still helped operate a system that kept blacks down.poor whites worked as patrollers for instance and overseers.whats crazy is that you are truly defending white southerners for thier brutality against blacks at the time and telling blacks basically to get over it....anyway u r showing me ur true colors now...just take the white sheet cuz ur not fooling anybody
LordTariq83 9 months ago
@MrTickleparty lol i have a good many family from the south and trust many southerners HATED BLACKS lol.unlike u i dont need to read cuz i have family that has lived it....and IMO the south got what they deserved if not more.....they commited acts of treason and brutality.maybe if it was ur family that actually went through this u would have a much different oppinion
LordTariq83 9 months ago
@MrTickleparty nobody is saying ALL southerners were like this...i know many good white southerners myself.but u have to face facts after the civil war this is how it was in the south.it was an area of hostility racism and tension no matter how much u want to deny it.look in ur history books or read some of the accounts of blacks living in the south around this time....it seems to me u r trying to downplay what blacks went through while justifying how many southerners acted
LordTariq83 9 months ago
If this killing of the black guy is true,, you must ask youself... How can anyone be so mean spirited, heartless, and immoral,, to shoot and kill a man who you demand ''serves' you.
The US was a violent society in many ways. And in many ways, those violent tendecies are still here.
Just watch television. All the shows deal iwth crime, murder, killing, ect.
xvoy2002 9 months ago
@MrTickleparty the fact of the matter is that THIS DOCUMENTARY is talking about the post south civil war and yes these things did happen whether u want to beleive them or not.ur comments show ur own biasness.what ur doing is pure stupidity....its like me watching a documentary on the holucaust and then saying that the documentary is biased against nazis!!!!LMAO
LordTariq83 9 months ago
thanks for sharing its intresting
rohan6612 9 months ago
You see how whites settle their conflicts......that is how we need to settle ours as well.....
dame2809 10 months ago
you are correct. this doc does makes the South look bad... because its about RECONSTRUCTION. the south did some fucked up shit during that time. and you are also correct. Blacks are not the only ones that have been subject to slavery. But so far i have not heard anyone argue they have been the only ones. i think i might agree with you but i'm not sure what your point is. cool name though! lol
im4614 11 months ago
In my opinion, when it comes to america on american history it's always bias. @MrTickleparty watch the war of 1812 documentary if you like history and watch it your mind will groan in the patriotism of the documentary. Could be the most bias documentary ever made trying to be historically accurate
isaacBrockofthe41 11 months ago
This video makes me feel good on how far America and the world has progressed in the past 150 years.Give me hope that all the evil things present in 21st century can also be eradicated.
arunkumarvikram 11 months ago
@MrTickleparty THANK YOU, SIR! THANK GOD I FOUND SOMEONE I CAN AGREE WITH!
bassdrumguitarplayer 1 year ago
@MrTickleparty and what's wrong with immigrants? you and i are both from nations of immigrants and they have always been the wave of the future. they need u, u need them, quit hating start appreciating. we are one world, we all need each other...yeah proud bleeding heart lib here :)
rjhill2 1 year ago
@MrTickleparty not about color? black people make everything about race? got that's the dumbest thing ever!! sry but most of american history has A LOT to do with skin tone. blacks were forced here to work against their will. mexicans had thier land stolen from them. native americans were virtually wiped out by the american army and our stupid ideas of manifest destiny. on the whole, people of color and esp. blacks in america were oppressed violently, and ur stance just defends racists..
rjhill2 1 year ago
@MrTickleparty yeah, racist white southerners did not want progressive-minded northerners freeing black slaves, making them citizens, giving them the vote, and putting them on a level of equality with them, that's what they saw as 'taking control of people' or so-called northern agression. my point is FUCK THEM AND THIER EXCUSES!
btw im from washington DC area, one of the most diverse regions in the world. A vast majority of my friends are immigrants and know US history way better than u
rjhill2 1 year ago
@MrTickleparty nope, but i know for a fact that ur a racist. u respond to a respnse about american history by making crazy generalizations about black people. ur just not gonna feel better until u can eliminate race and slavery as causes of the civil war. and if people like me make everything about race maybe it's because people like u want to deny it even exists. and whatever race u are, if ur living in canada i can safely assume that u or ur family are immigrants too so stop hating man..
rjhill2 1 year ago
@MrTickleparty yes the civil war was about banks and factories, money and power. but it was about factory labor VS slave labor, the 'states rights' arugment used to justify keeping humans enslaved, and the shitloads of money the south made off of slavery and the banks that financed the whole institution. All of your stated reasons for the civil war are in one way or another connected to slavery.
ps: detroit is not worthless. it is the victim of capitalist corporate greeed...
rjhill2 1 year ago
@MrTickleparty actually we don't trivialize all the other cultures, we don't ignore other people around the world who are struggling for human rights, and no we're not all crying out for repairations. all ur token black friends who say we are are dumb-ass uncle toms. i guess you have about 5 (or less) black friends and you believe they they can all speak for the entire black american race. believe me they don't.
rjhill2 1 year ago
@MrTickleparty news flash: you're not going to get us to even listen to you about the haiti slavery issue by demonizing african-americans and attempting to trivialize our struggle. ur offensive and pathetic..
rjhill2 1 year ago
@MrTickleparty actually know my history very well. urs too. and apparently, canadians are supposed to be more intelligent and enlightened. u clearly are the exception.
rjhill2 1 year ago
@MrTickleparty omg really? the civil war had nothing to do with slavery? ok what redneck have u been sleeping with? i guess those dumb hicks were killing and burning black people in mass only because they didn't want the banks and factories to take over. u know, maybe u should do a full study of american history (from like, everyone's perspective) before you make an ass of urself in the comments section...
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blues9934 1 year ago
@mrtickleypart if you are from canada how do you know? I am an African amerian history major and from what I've read in my text this seems pretty acurate.And just because its common does not make it okay and we should learn about it. AND why are you offended and hurt by facts... :/
talkindurinthemovie 1 year ago
@MrTickleparty : I know this is not the most ignorant comment ever b/c you'll just keep talking. Why is the program biased? Because it showed a graphic and accurate portrayal of the vigilante violence in the post-Civil War South? No we were not the only race to suffer slavery and torture, but frankly, we suffered more than anyone else, and yes, I mean anyone else.
ps: no as an African-American I never experienced slavery, but I along with most of black America still suffer it's legacy.
rjhill2 1 year ago
@MrTickleparty I apologize; you are correct.
BloodiestMargie 1 year ago
@MrTickleparty Slavery is NOT legal in Haiti to this day.
BloodiestMargie 1 year ago 5
cry me a fucking a river
on no we cant make millions and the blood sweat and tears of innocent people eny more
I have no sympathy
mwondu 1 year ago
One item that should be noted is that after the war the northern abolitionists did everything they could to bring disgrace upon the white people of the south, and it made them react violently.
vetalltheway 1 year ago
@vetalltheway
right thats a perfect excuse for murder
and genocide
mwondu 1 year ago
@mwondu totally with u. that's what american history fails to admit. a whole race of people treated like subhumans, and once they were forced to treat them like humans, the rednecks were pretty much committed to wiping them off the face of the planet. granted there were sympathetic white southerners, even some who had fought for the south. but they were seriously in the minority..
rjhill2 1 year ago
All racists should take a note from that bitch who hung herself.
Good riddance.
EmpathyWorks 1 year ago 14
@EmpathyWorks HAHAHA Funny statement ironic username
BloodiestMargie 1 year ago 12
@EmpathyWorks i dont think she hung herself because she didnt like black folk. she just didnt want to bow down to an oppressive tyrant and government. i wouldnt have either.
bassdrumguitarplayer 1 year ago
@greatwhateveryournameis . . . sorry didn't mean to call all southerners scum just so everyone knows anyway your response really just doesn't make a whole lot of sense, and does it really not interest you that everyone has responded negatively to you.
shishkabob789 1 year ago
@shishkabob789: The only question which is here of any interest is whether you do deny the least syllable of your addition or not!
Besides: It would be quite foolish to take the positive or negative responses as a measure for anything, unless one wants to become socially agreeable but only boring people do strive to do so; the others just speak their mind.
GreatGrumbledook 1 year ago
Oh you dumb bitches! "King" Abraham? He won the fucking election. He won the fucking re-election. He wasn't a fucking king and he wasn't a fucking tyrant. Shocking that you learn NOTHING from the VERY DOCUMENTARY YOU ARE COMMENTING ON: If Lincoln's version of Reconstruction had been implemented, all this shit wouldn't have happened.
But that's just my opinion
Go ahead and keep arguing, though.
Also, Lincoln did not conquer Africa, so he cannot be "Africanus"
BloodiestMargie 1 year ago
@BloodiestMargie: Firstly: One should not get angry so quickly; secondly one should not use vulgar and offensive terms or names; thirdly the name King Abraham Africanus I was taken from a contemporary pamphlet which mocks and insults the said person, by implying that he tries to style himself as king; and for that reason John Wilkes Booth, plain well-meaning soul, whom fair befall in heaven 'amongst happy souls, killed him later. So you cannot claim that this name is unjustified.
GreatGrumbledook 1 year ago
@BloodiestMargie: And all these things would have happened anyway, as Lincoln could not have allowed the Southerners to continue slavery by the black codes, which were created after the war was over (the only solution might have been either to compensate the former slave owners, thus placating them, or to move the former slaves to the North); and as I said above the addition Africanus is not a Roman honour for a conqueror but a rather derogative slander against the person it was given to.
GreatGrumbledook 1 year ago
@BloodiestMargie i agree with u. i think lincoln's reconstruction plan would have been much more fair than either the racist policies of johnson or the vengeful policies of the radical republicans. i think he would have allowed both african-americans and ex-rebels the vote. He would have made clear to radicals in his party that the ex-rebels needed to be embraced not punished, and made it clear to the ex-rebels that they were in a new world where they had to treat blacks as equals..
rjhill2 1 year ago
Well its my first youtube hating . . . @greatgrumbledook you are disgusting ignorant southern scum that deserves to have a taste (whipping?constant fear?endless work?) of what you defend, slavery was disgusting, lincoln was a hero that saved the nation from impending doom and yet racist pigs like you still bring up a matter resolved 150 years ago by hundreds of thousands of deaths
shishkabob789 1 year ago
@shishkabob789: Fellow, I know thee as a knave; a rascal; an eater of broken meats; a base, proud, shallow, beggarly, three-suited, hundred-pound, filthy, worsted-stocking knave; a lily-livered, action-taking knave, a whoreson, glass-gazing, super-serviceable finical rogue; one-trunk-inheriting slave; one that wouldst be a bawd, in way of good service, and art nothing but the composition of a knave, beggar, coward, pandar, and the son and heir of a mongrel bitch:
GreatGrumbledook 1 year ago
@shishkabob789: …one whom I will beat into clamorous whining, if thou deniest the least syllable of thy addition.
While King Abraham Africanus I may be a hero for the Yankees but for the Southerners he is what Oliver Cromwell is to the Irish or Genghis Kahn to the Chinese: A mortal enemy; but feel not too sure: The upcoming downfall of the USA as the global hegemony power may give the South finally the long desired opportunity to restore its rights and liberties.
GreatGrumbledook 1 year ago
Those traitors deserve what they got!
Elizabeththegreatest 1 year ago
Northern terrorism!
Sawampbilly40 1 year ago
Terrorism
Sawampbilly40 1 year ago
A lot of modern whining but then again: The South have been illegally invaded, devastated and morally terrorized; plus the North has declared the war to free the slaves, so it was natural to attack and upbraid the slaves; attacking the foul Northern occupation troops was no opportunity; had the Southerners to do that they would have done so in the War of Succession; it maybe not very nice but pretty understandable; as for the war Lincoln and his minions are to blame alone.
GreatGrumbledook 1 year ago
@GreatGrumbledook You can't justify what the post-war insurgents did. It wasn't just attacking Northern occupation soldiers; They massacred blacks, forced many free blacks into slavery again, and killed anyone who supported freed blacks or the Union army.
The administrations of Johnson and Grant badly mishandled Reconstruction. If anything, Lincoln's Reconstruction would have been far more generous, benevolent, and forgiving. But the violent southerners are also to blame
BloodiestMargie 1 year ago
@BloodiestMargie: You should make a clear distinction between justifying an action and understanding it; I can understand why the Southerners attacked the freed slaves, but then again: The South had been conquered and oppressed, slavery was a legal institution in the South, the owners had not been compensated and above all: Slavery was the word of war, so the Southern aggressive feelings against the Blacks, especially as they were around everywhere.
GreatGrumbledook 1 year ago
@BloodiestMargie: Further more the Northerners have given the Blacks the right to vote and made them thus citizens in the South, without the consent of the Southerners; while denying many former Confederate soldiers and citizens the right to vote and hold office; so the North did everything to incite the Southerners against the Blacks; while do I think the South should have switched to irregular war like the Spanish did against Napoleon but that would have lead to even more gore.
GreatGrumbledook 1 year ago
@BloodiestMargie: Ever since the March of Sherman, which did unleash a wave of wanton destruction in the Southern heartlands this war had become a savage modern war, leaning that it was no longer about armies fighting it out in battles and sieges but by breaking the will of the enemy by attacking the civilian population, which was seen again in World War II against Germany and Japan or in the Korean and Vietnam war. That the South would react thus was pretty predictable.
GreatGrumbledook 1 year ago
@GreatGrumbledook disenfranchising confederates who fought to seceed (which was treasonous,) was pretty humane. If those southerners had been tried for treason, and hung or shot, which was typical protocol at the time for treason (sorry, Billy-bob, but the confederacy lost the war, its a fact, no matter how much modern day yokels still do not want to admit or acknowledge that). What you advocate is terrorism, plain and simple. Just like your meemaw was wrong, so are you.
WMDramitinos 1 year ago
@WMDramitinos: Only the English had the right to do this in the foul rebellion of the new England colonists; but afterwards the colonies became independent, though they indulged in the stupidity to form some sort of union and ended up to be oppressed and exploited by a bank controlled mockery of a central government; while I highly recommend the Southeners to read the book On War by the German philosopher Carl von Clausewitz, so that they may learn that a defeat is not the end of the world:
GreatGrumbledook 1 year ago
"he who is pressed on all sides expecting little help from things which promise none, will place his last and only reliance in the moral ascendancy which despair gives to courage, and look upon the greatest daring as the greatest wisdom,—at the same time employ the assistance of subtle stratagem, and if he does not succeed, will find in an honourable downfall the right to rise hereafter."
Therefore the time has come for the South to forge revenge in the fires of burning Washington and New York!
GreatGrumbledook 1 year ago
@GreatGrumbledook.... You forge your revenge, buddy, I hope YOU are the leader of the southern revolution and I hope our paths cross once you have begun your revolution.... Oh wait, southerners are too fat stupid and lazy to ever get up off their couches and take any action... its much easier to spread irrational thoughts using the internet, where you never have to face anyone who you address. If you were not a coward, you would post a video of yourself calling for southern revenge.
WMDramitinos 1 year ago
@WMDramitinos: The Southerners will not I, though do much favour and support their righteous cause, I am not their Lord Byron, so I will not depart from fair France to aide their struggle for liberty and vengeance; save matters here in Europe will be solved with a much greater speed, but repulsing the Third Assault Wave of the vile Camel Merchant Cult will take some time; and then there is still the danger of China rising to global hegemony; the false Napoleon should have aided the South.
GreatGrumbledook 1 year ago
@GreatGrumbledook... and sorry, but if the English had the right to quell a rebellion where colonists are trying to secede from Great Britain, how is that different from The president of the United States (of which EVERY southern state was a member by choice) quelling a rebellion where rebels are trying to secede from the United States? Is it not the right of the government to protect its interests and preserve the nation? Keep on reading guy, one day you will get it.
WMDramitinos 1 year ago
@WMDramitinos: Why? Did you get into a fight with one of your dumb friends that you do now argue with an idiot? Maybe it is just your mirror image! And you are wrong: The English King is the deputy elected by the Lord, while Abraham Africanus was an impostor and an usurper, the South never accepted his election, as the fraud was even more obvious back than then it is today; besides the right to secede anytime is invulnerable and had the South anticipated this they would have never joined.
GreatGrumbledook 1 year ago
@GreatGrumbledook Maybe the reason many Southerners didn't accept his election is because many Southern polling booths DIDN'T EVEN HAVE HIS NAME AVAILABLE ON THE BALLOT!
REGARDLESS, he was STILL elected by a MAJORITY of the United States citizenry, as well as a majority in the electoral college. It was not a Tilden v Hayes or Gore v Bush; Lincoln has the MAJORITY of votes of ALL the other candidates.
BloodiestMargie 1 year ago
@GreatGrumbledook And no offense to you Southerners, but you have ONLY YOURSELVES to blame for Lincoln's election if you were so heatedly opposed to him; Southerners failed to unite and the Democratic party ran two candidates---both of which combined outnumbered the votes Lincoln received.
Irrelevant. Lincoln committed no crime and was fairly elected.
BloodiestMargie 1 year ago
@BloodiestMargie: I think the problems runs a bit deeper [and while a considerable part of the South belonged indeed to New France, I am not a Southerner]: Ever since the so-called Nullification Crisis under the rule of the Indian Slayer Andrew Jackson the question if the states or the federal government was to rule; the great mistake of the South was it not to fight it out back in 1832, when the balance of powers was more in favour of the South, due to immigration and industrial deployment.
GreatGrumbledook 1 year ago
@BloodiestMargie: This proves by the way the teachings once more Machiavelli:
"I answer for the reasons given above that a blunder ought never to be perpetrated to avoid war, because it is not to be avoided, but is only deferred to your disadvantage."
The war was sooner or later unavoidable due to the mistrust and hatred and above all abolition fanatics like John Brown. So far the North and its union were happy with their victory but this may not last, considering the recent hostility...
GreatGrumbledook 1 year ago
@GreatGrumbledook If the southerners were conquered and oppressed, what does that say about the slaves, you moron. How can you argue that slavery was a legitimate thing, but complain about oppression of white southerners? How inbred are you? Really!?!?!?!???
WMDramitinos 1 year ago
@WMDramitinos: Well, I wish Monsieur Robespierre were present here to give you uneducated swine a lesson about the true meaning of terrorism; besides: A irregular war is no proscription but an act of fighting; and the sophistry about slavery does not work: First it was alright when it came to fight against the English and to create the USA, but later it was amiss? How came? Was it because the USA would have neither won independence nor be founded without the South?
GreatGrumbledook 1 year ago
@WMDramitinos: Second if the North was really so in pity of the slaves I guess the Southerners would have given them to them in exchange for the abolition of the union and some financial compensation, which would have been a lot cheaper than the bloody war; and third: If the war was about abolishing slavery, why was slavery than still be legal in the states sided with the North? Moreover: Why did King Abraham Africanus I not declare it to be his sole war goal in 1861 straight away?
GreatGrumbledook 1 year ago
@GreatGrumbledook... Sorry chief, but without slavery, the southern way of life was KAPUT... no amount of financial compensation would have prevented a war. Statements like King Abraham Africanus just shows what an ignorant hillbilly you are. I have broken my number one rule, which is never argue with an idiot. Even if he can cite Robespierre or von Clausewitz. So, congratulations, you are DUMB! if you ever have your rebellion, let me know what state you are in, because that is where I will come
WMDramitinos 1 year ago
@WMDramitinos How is being called "Africanus" an insult? As far as my history knows, the most well-known Africanus was Publius Cornelius Scipio Africanus, and he was a war hero and a great man who had an unfortunately shitty political career.
Or was he being racist in associating Lincoln with Africa and black people?
BloodiestMargie 1 year ago
@GreatGrumbledook so you support slavery?
hardcorefakes12 1 year ago
@hardcorefakes12: No more or less than good old Aristotle does: "For if every instrument could accomplish its own work, obeying or anticipating the will of others (...) if, in like manner, the shuttle would weave and the plectrum touch the lyre without a hand to guide them, chief workmen would not want servants, nor masters slaves." - so machines and robots make it obsolete, now. But why do you ask?
GreatGrumbledook 1 year ago
@GreatGrumbledook you seem racist
hardcorefakes12 1 year ago
@hardcorefakes12: On what grounds? Since slavery is not restricted to any race but was both practiced and suffered by all races during the times I cannot see any connection between the rather obscure term of racism and the institution of slavery.
GreatGrumbledook 1 year ago
@GreatGrumbledook Then you require more education on the subject of slavery. There's a reason black people made up pretty much the ENTIRE slave population of America in the 1800s. Look up "Paternalism". This wasn't some kind of secret or something you can wildly interpret any way you wish.
BloodiestMargie 1 year ago
@BloodiestMargie: And if I would be nasty I would demand that you give the reason; but as I am a rather kindly person I will unveiled the secret: After the downfall of the Roman Empire and with the rise of the realm of the Franks the Church objected enslaving any Christians, which was virtually banned since the days of Charlemagne; making slavery extinct in Europe; but after the discovery of the Americans and the exploration of Africa, the Spanish and Portuguese were able to acquire slaves.
GreatGrumbledook 1 year ago
@BloodiestMargie: The English adopted the slave trade later and so came it to be that the slave population in their colonies were of African descent; and from that given fact the fancy new race theories were linked to that; especially since the institution of slavery were questioned by the abolitionist faction and so the ideology of white supremacy served as a justification for upholding slavery, which was linked to serious economic interests, but it was not the cause of the situation.
GreatGrumbledook 1 year ago
Hooray for racism
ilikebac0n 1 year ago
One of my favorite documentaries ever
lildwayne21 1 year ago
i kno where to find kkk members
wowhobbster666 1 year ago
@wowhobbster666 Good for you. I do too.Small world amen.
Sawampbilly40 1 year ago