#213 - ZNU 11/07 Chem trails, & T-Cell

[MsDezzyzRayz]

No- I don't think maybe so I question your critical thinking.,

[ZeroFossilFuel]

@MsDezzyzRayz I see. So then you believe every jet trail in the sky is, without exception, a chem trail? Sorry dear but that's just paranoid delusional.

[MsDezzyzRayz]

@ZeroFossilFuel If I'm not mistaken you just put words in my mouth.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

@MsDezzyzRayz I didn't put words in your mouth. I took them out because they certainly are implied and you obviously lack the courage to spit them out. You too are presumptive. I never said the gov does not spray. I merely point out that not everything we see in the sky is evil. There ARE other explanations.

[forthymaker]

U need 2 do a little more indept investigating on this one my freind

[veins101]

wtf... people really think jet trails are hazardous in the U.S. ...

[MsDezzyzRayz]

@veins101 You spelled it wrong.....that would be "Chem Trails" not Jet Trails. The government admits they spray them and scientists have found them to be Chemical. Sorry Charlie Brown but your wrong as the toxic rain.

[mwcdx]

I'm proud to be a conspiracy theorist .

[ZeroFossilFuel]

@mwcdx LOL! Never said I wasn't. Just that this one is busted. Rock on.

[tg112001]

Dude, you are mocking contrails. Chemtrails are way thicker. In fact, I've taken pictures of real chemtrails near where I live.

watch?v=ZeieKQ9y93Q

[reachthelight]

lol

but if...???

Would it be possible ??

I don't know anything about chem trail so I'll do my lesson as always and then make my mind on the subject by myself Great work !

[llewgnal]

Isn't jet fuel made of Benzine, Kerosene, and H2O ?

[graedat]

Z where are you??

We miss you come back to you tube with your great informative lessons.

[llewgnal]

Don't know when the beast will show up, but it will be very evident, the number 666 is the sixth seal, sixth trump, sixth vile. He comes on a white horse, imitateing Jesus, his name is Death. 2/3 of the people will be fooled into beleiveing he is Christ. The way to tell the true one is , If you are still in a flesh body when Jesus touches down on Mt Olive, it aint him it's the beast imitateing him, All flesh dies when the true Christ comes, that's how he defeats Death.Merry Christmas.

[threeredstars]

did you just say Jesus is going to kill me?

[llewgnal]

That's when the Lords day begins, you recieve a new body, your fleash body dies.

[llewgnal]

Checked out Dark side of the moon... Best wittness they had was the ex KGB guy,,,lol Am I mistaken or Wasn't Kennedy President when he suggested the idea of putting a man on the moon ? Seems like an old Woody Allen Movie comedy, But I did laugh all the way through it, Thanx. Gary

[WHITEKNIGHT2012]

CHEM trails and CON trails are not the same thing . I've seen chemtrails and contrails by several jets at the same general altitudes and are nowhere near any airports . Do your homework , chemtrails are not normal ' vapor ' trails caused by jets flying the same routes tracing over each others flight patterns.

[WHITEKNIGHT2012]

Hi , please before using terms like ' nut job ' or ' whack job ' when referring to conspiracy theorists . Take some time to do some SERIOUS extensive studies . No not all conspiracies are true , but many are true. Disinformation is always mixed with truth to discredit the entire subject . Hence the terms like ' whack or nut job ' . The NWO is VERY real , anyone that cannot see this should probably use the term ' nut job ' when referring to themselves . Peace .

[2xtream]

AEROSOL CRIMES (aka Chemtrails) - Pt. 1/11

watch?v=4p7icw3aT1Y

[TrutherD1]

Check out "Don't talk about the weather"

[btechint]

Chemtrails, no worries it's just tenderizer...

[ProsperiaFan]

Geo-engineering Is what our government calls it. Those were not chemTrails. Yes! Question things, yet don't buy into it all that you read without proper researching and analyzing the different "angels".

watch?v=5--Iq4FPyGU <--Geo-engineering song :)

[tasp9]

Have you ran the hho with grain alcohol instead of Gasoline in the engine? Keep up the good work.

[fred30680]

We must be thinking alike. I drew up a cell design and your looks a lot like mine.

Except I was thinking about running plates on the inside of the straight part of the T. Kind of like a bicycle chain.

[boostedsl2]

Long time subscriber, first time commenter-Watched and pondered the recommended videos. Very interesting, hard to believe, harder to disprove. Keep it up!

[damh11]

Keep up the good work ZeroFossilFuel.

You are obviously on the right track or they wouldn't be attacking you. Remember:

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

[mrgalleria]

Alo ha,

Considering that gas is a slow burning liquid fuel, and hydroxy is a fast burning gas fuel, a motor (which is an air pump) can use less air and consume less energy to operate, running on hydroxy.

Hydroxy does not need a power robbing compression stroke to reach explosive capability.

It is reasonable a re-engineered motor will run on much less hydroxy then proposed by others here. It may involve little more than a cam and ignition change.

[EnergySupply2008]

PART 1

Lets examine ZeroFossilfuels video #175. This test was done exactly the way I would have tested. Why?

1) As in a car, his test engine powers an alternator.

2) There is no computer to complicate the test.

3) No sensors or any kind to skew the results. A purist form of test.

In the comments section he states:

No alternator load, no HHO, run times = x

25A load, HHO fed back to carb, RT = 0.94x

This test proved it takes more energy to produce HHO than it gives back to the engine.

[EnergySupply2008]

Part 2

Being the lightest element on the planet, hydrogen has the lowest energy density of any element, just 0.01079 MJ per liter. Gasoline 34.2 MJ per liter. Even without testing, I knew what the results would be, because it can be no other way. Hydrogen sucks as a fuel and it will always take more energy to create hydrogen than it can possible give back, so if we convert to a hydrogen based fuel system, then we can rest assured that we will use up the fossil fuels even faster.

[EnergySupply2008]

PART 3

Here is a HHO advocate, not a skeptic like me, proving that HHO does not improve the situation. What more proof do people need? ZFF cells already run at about 85 percent of Faraday efficiency and you cannot really achieve 100 percent anyway, not in the real world where more wattage than Faradays 100 percent efficiency of 2.36 watt hours produces one liter per hour, generating very little heat, which is the enemy of 100 percent efficiency.

[merlinspower]

energysupply2008... Whats the problem?Oxyhydrogen has many great  qualities, that can help reduce our dependance on fossil fuels. specifcally , reduced carbon footprint. Every 15 seconds Americans consume in Gasoline the equivalant of an olympic size swimming pool. Check out the Honda FCX on you-tube . An owner will change oil once every 250,000 miles. A skeptic like you, must have a first name of Thomas ! Chill out .. stop playing the Devils advocate.

[EnergySupply2008]

You simply do not understand that Oxyhydrogen is a net energy loser. To produce it it takes more energy than it provides.

[mrgalleria]

That is why my hydrogen booster, which produces a tiny amount of hydroxy, gives me more power, lower emissions, and a consistent 20% savings in fuel, for over 3 years.

Engine 350 cu. in., 1 ton van.

[merlinspower]

Fact not fiction,.. Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe. H2O is plentiful on our planet. The flame front of an ignited tube 8 miles long will reach the other end in  1 second ! The tip of the hydrogen flame is over 3000 F . Epoch , a company in Free China, Tiawan , Offers several appliances , that heat water, cook food, heat homes, ect with the use of hydrogen. 2/3rds of water is hydrogen, but most of its weight is Oxygen, hydogen is twice as

[EnergySupply2008]

Merlinspower, All these points you raise about hydrogen, but how about this one. There is no way to get hydrogen freed, unless you burn more energy than the hydrogen contains. So, if we want to make sure we deplete other fuel sources sooner, we should immediately begin making hydrogen in mass quantities. It does not exist by itself in nature, it has to be freed by consuming more energy than it gives back.

[merlinspower]

Correction, energysupply2008, There ARE ways to turn water into oxyhydrogen..inexpensively, Hydrogen gas was released in Russia in a 7 mile deep pit that they dug. Do some more research. IT DOES exist, however it  immediately combines with other elements, LIKE CARBON, to make dirty fossil fuels, Coal, ect

[merlinspower]

helium. using hydrogen to heat with is really the direction we should be going. I admit many want to run the cars off of oxy-hydrogen. like stanley Meyers did collectively the inventors and tinkerers are getting closer in our Labs, garages and shops. to the perfect on demand system,.. That day will come sooner than later. Gas explodes, liquid burns inefficiantly

[EnergySupply2008]

Stanley Meyers was sued by his investors, found guilty of gross and egregious fraud and ordered to repay his investors.

[mrgalleria]

Then he got in his car, and drove away, his only fuel- water.

[merlinspower]

False, What is the source of this misleading . ? Which court , what state, city, county, and Case #, then provide the Date ?

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Absolutely correct on all points except for the one point that you conveniently omitted. Some energy was returned with no adjustments to the carburetor mixture after HHO re-injection.

AS HAS BEEN CLEARLY ESTABLISHED, the gasoline mixture can be heavily leaned out in the presence of HHO and the engine will continue to run correctly. THIS IS WHERE THE NET LOSS BECOMES A NET GAIN IN TOTAL SYSTEM EFFICIENCY.

Now that I have a carb that allows me to adjust high speed run mixture, I will prove it.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

And even after I have done so, I still doubt you will concede which, knowing the character behind the pixels, will not surprise me one bit.

[EnergySupply2008]

There will be nothing to concede because dialing back a carburetor on a small engine feeding a 345 watt device is nothing like the average car that needs 21 horse power (read 15,665 watts) to maintain 60 MPH. Your test rig is trying to power 2.2 percent of said car. More than 45 times less. The same 25 amps will do far less in a car.

[EnergySupply2008]

NOT all that CLEARLY ESTABLISHED, otherwise you would have said, the gasoline mixture can be leaned by X amount with X amount of HHO. Also, run correctly is not defined. For instance, in the car, run the HHO, lean out the mixture, now you have to push the accelerator pedal further down because the HHO only provides 4 tenths of one percent of the needed energy. So car has less power from leaning it out and you must push accelerator further to get same performance. Where is the gain?

[ZeroFossilFuel]

I tried to keep this an open discussion but I really have had enough of his bullshit. If he want's to be juvenile and create new user accounts just so he can flame me, let him. I will block all of those too.

[ChrisPCrunchy]

There is no need to use the alternator to power an on demand cell. I can fully charge a deep cycle fork lift battery bank for around 7c.

1) For 7c at $1.15 per litre I get 427ml of gasoline.

2) For that same 7c I have run my cell for 18 hrs generating 7560L of hydrogen and my battery still wasnt flat.

Hydrogen 7560 x 0.01079 = 81.5724MJ

Gasoline 0.427 x 34.2= 14.60 MJ

That makes Hydrogen over five times or 558.71% more economical if you arent using expensive gasoline to generate it.

[ChrisPCrunchy]

Why am I not supprised EnergySupply2008 sulks away like a coward when hard facts and figures are quoted that disprove the neysaying?

[ZeroFossilFuel]

I blocked him. Got tired of the same-old same-old never ending stream of BS that proceeded from his keyboard.

[Spiritualease]

@ZeroFossilFuel Your buddy Energysupply2008 just posted a chemtrail video of chemtrails over his house. You should go over there and ridicule the shit out of him.

[EnergySupply2008]

60 miles @ 60 MPH in one hour at 25 MPG.

Used 2.4 gal or .04 gal/minute. Gal = 129.46 MJ of energy .04 gal = 5.1784 MJ per minute.

3 LPM of HHO X 0.00722413544 MJ per L puts in additional 0.02167240632 MJ a minute. Only POINT 41 of ONE % more energy. The HHO cell sapped 6 percent more energy off the engine than it gave back to the engine. See ZFF video #175

So, my question is, how does less energy input into the engine make it increase miles per gallon? Please answer that question. Anyone?

[2H1O1]

Why is it that you DONT LOOK at all of his video #175,. Just one small part that is it for you.

[EnergySupply2008]

What are you talking about? I did watch all of #175. It has no talking, no measurements being performed, just shows an engine powering an HHO cell. The comments section where he says 6 percent less run time WITH HHO is the only important part. Please learn to think before you speak or this conversation is over.

[amazstar]

Hi Z...a couple of personal observations on chemtrails: it is easy to id jets at altitudes in excess of 30k ft (stable conditions usually, but cold) which travel airways(parallel trails). If you have an FAA feed which shows ID, speed and altitude, and live near an airway, one can visually see and electronically id which aircraft (most) are emitting stuff other than CO2 and H2O which is what an efficient jet engine puts out. Not a conspiracy but a spray op that government will not explain.

Tj

[EnergySupply2008]

It has nothing to do with airports. They dump chemtrails behind the planes right over my home. No airport nearby.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

You are exactly 27 miles as the crow flies away from Bradley International Airport. No airport nearby? Come on. You're supposed to be smarter than this.

[EnergySupply2008]

Sorry I did not make it clear. In my research into chemtrails, I have seen many people with excellent high powered lenses that clearly show that these are military aerial refueling tankers, so what I meant is military airbases not being nearby. You should read the information about the Air Force documents entitled Owning the weather in 2025

[rpierini]

Check out the free video 'aerosol crimes' by Clifford Carnicom.

[rapttor94]

Conspiracy theorist.. no, cheese slid off your cracker... no... telling the dead honest truth... yes.

[gatekeeper1006]

Don't let the comments get to you. I think a lot of people have such unhappy lives that they feel the need criticize others to make themself feel better.

We still have freedom of speach (for now), Say or show anything you like, it's your channel, you're the boss.

Best of luck with your experiments and thanks for sharing.

[quickshell]

Quite personally, I preferred the days when zff was focused on just that - zff. Ever since the H1N1 theories started going around, the theme of this channel has gotten severely side tracked.

And I really hope the links for us to "ponder" was actually a joke. I'm sure if you look hard enough, you'll probably find ZFF Harvest Human Organs in vertical and diagonal form in the NY Times, the Bible and your TV Guide.

Stick the facts people. That's why we came here.

[EnergySupply2008]

Also, living in Connecticut, as I do, you must have witnessed what they are calling the summer that wasn't, as we only had 1 day above 90 when 21 days is the norm. Also, the incredible lack of sunlight. In June 2009 we had 11.3 inches of rain, the norm is 3.9 inches. For three weeks during that month, the rain was leaving an enormous amount of white powder residue on my cars. Chemtrail researchers say they are spraying aluminum oxide, aluminum is white when oxidized. Comments?

[orangedac]

a lack of sleep is causing our hero zero fossil fuel to get paranoid and chase after conspiracy theories.

he needs a good 8 hours of sleep but you guys are pushing him too hard to deliver updates, more experiments, more work...etc.

[EnergySupply2008]

Your hero Zero has still not figured out that an HHO device at 6.1 milliliters per minute per watt, produces 1.322 Mega Joules of HHO energy per hour, but consumes 1.8 MJ of electric energy per hour. A loss.

Even at 100 percent Faraday electrolysis efficiency, which is 7.062 milliliters per minute per watt, you simply cannot break even. Break even is at 8.31 MMW. Therefore, this amounts to chasing the impossible. I will explain it all in very exact detail in my upcoming video.

[electrician725]

You have missed the point, SUPPLEMENTAL HHO

increases the burn rate of gasoline to where a much higher % of it's thermal energy is released before adiabatic cooling of cylinder expansion causes a flame-out of the fuel. No "FREE ENERGY" going on with HHO, unless you believe Stan Meyer's theories...

Your #'s appear to be correct, I knew that going in to this and I'm still interested. Now address the faster burn concept, I'm listening, but my secondary area of expertise is ICE's.

[EnergySupply2008]

See ZFF video #175 - lawnmower engine feeding altenator to power HHO cell. In the comments section he writes:

No alternator load, no HHO, run times = x

25A load, HHO fed back to carb, RT = 0.94x

Run time reduced by 6 percent means it is taking more power from the engine than it is returning to the engine, despite supposed faster burn concept.

[EnergySupply2008]

I estimate that with 25 amp load on the lawnmower engine, fuel consumption is probably around 1 gallon every 6.3 hours. A 30 MPG vehicle at 60 MPH uses 2 gallons per hour or 12.6 gallons in 6.3 hours. 12.6 times as much, so the amount of HHO feed to this small engine is like a ant fart in a football stadium when feed to a vehicle traveling at 60 MPH.

[electrician725]

Thx for info, I'll digest this and also, thanks for not "losing it" like so many on youtube do when you question their statements. I enjoy intelligent discussions amongst civil people :)

[electrician725]

PS: I do not think ZFF is helping his cause using non-adjustable carburetors, a choke richens the mixture only, and _theoretically_ using HHO requires leaner mixtures. IF HHO DOES ANYTHING, it would increase power if one does not lean out the mixture... but I have never seen that addressed. Thanks again ES'08

[EnergySupply2008]

HHO, in any decent quantity, exits the cell at about 120 degrees Fahrenheit. At that temperature it has 0.007224 Mega Joules of energy per liter. Gasoline has 34.2 MJ of energy per liter. Feed a cell 500 watts for an hour. At 6.1 milliliters per minute per watt, it will consume 1.8 MJ of energy and produce 1.322 MJ of energy. Because HHO is a net energy loser, the more HHO you make, the more miles per gallon will suffer.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

40 years ago at the age of 10 I do remember seeing exactly the same phenomenon. The only difference between then and now is the volume of air traffic.

[EnergySupply2008]

Lets assume your memory from 40 years ago is accurate and you saw an occasional persistent contrail. How do you explain that after watching the sky above my home for four months I observed zero persistent contrails and then beginning on June 14 2008 I see them 3-4 days per week? Surely air traffic did not dramatically increase in such a short period of time.

[DEFYnwo]

Z,

search engine "operation popeye"

hope it helps!

[1BustedMyth]

Chemtrails are high in Vitamin C and antioxidents, so no need to worry, Elvis was responsible

[EnergySupply2008]

Spraying Connecticut for the past 17 months. Chem trail skeptics need to check out these videos, seriously

Compare contrails to chem trails

watch?v=3kcTvqiMNl8

watch?v=kodW75YLGdU

watch?v=Q9KLLqEL96Y

[EnergySupply2008]

Chemtrails turned on and off

watch?v=SwWx-Ajwse8

Shocking

watch?v=JLTDw34E9Xw

[EnergySupply2008]

Chemtrail capital of the world and ultimate proof that people who believe in chem trails are NOT crazy

watch?v=EOipROeTkHA

Through an infrared lens

watch?v=TGsGYKpQIl0

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Sorry sir. I watched every video you pointed to. In all cases the jets that produced contrails were at cruising altitude. Jets that produced what people call chemtrails were ascending or descending through boundary layers of trapped moisture. Not enough to form clouds on their own but with the help of the added water vapor from the exhaust they streak the sky. They do not dissipate because the air within the layer is not dry enough. They just shift to one side for the next jet to fly through.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Look like shit? You bet. Want them to go away? Fly less. Like out thirst for electricity forces us to live with utility poles, our thirst for travel forces us to live with man made cloud formations.

The ones that start and stop can clearly be seen to coincide with passing through areas of wispy clouds. The atmosphere is constantly moving. The layer formations are not perfectly flat. It's very easy to see if you look closely.

ASK ANY METEOROLOGIST.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

In every case that you pointed to, I dot not believe these are chemtrails.

Is that to say that chemtrails are not being discharged on occasion? No. We do need to be vigilant. But let's use our heads. Okay?

[EnergySupply2008]

You have it backwards. Persistent contrails only form when the temperature is minus 40 or below, which is at higher altitudes, not lower, as in descending or ascending.

[whiteknightef]

what about the president from Russia telling the world and his subjects that MOSCOW will have no snow this winter? Climate modifications?

[mrgalleria]

Alo ha,

I am firmly convinced chemtrails are releasing many dangerous components. There is no other logical explanation that can come remotely closer to explain what is happening to peoples lungs, and health.

I found morgellons growing on my wrist today, as I have been studying them since Sept. from chemtrail fallout. Yes, I have the microscopic photos to prove it.

[EnergySupply2008]

Clifford Carnicom has probably researched morgellons more than anyone I know. He says the chemtrails have metallic salts and some kind of nano fibers about .5 microns or smaller. He and other researches claim these fibers try to exit the body through the skin after we breath them in or eat or drink them. People with morgellons complain that it feels like they have bugs under their skin and often bleed from scratching so much. Please seek medical care.

[mrgalleria]

"seek medical care"?

Where?

I spoke to a doctor, and two nurse/practitioners yesterday about morgellons- they gave me a 15 page document entitled "Delusional Parasitosis".

Doctors will laugh at you behind your back.

BTW. It has been said that there is 1800+ gallons of hydrogen in one gallon of water.

[EnergySupply2008]

Some doctors have extracted fibers from underneath peoples skin and are researching this new disease. Unfortunately, I do not know their names. Most doctors are not up to date on morgellons so they laugh out of ignorance.

[EnergySupply2008]

Electrolysis of 1 gallon of H20 = 1866 gal of H and O gas. HHO cell temp 120 F, gas expands to 2215 L.

Gal water = 3785 grams, 423.5 g of H and 3361.5 g of O. 423.5 g of H divide by 2215 = 0.1912 g of H per gal of HHO. A g of hydrogen has 0.143 MJ of energy so 0.1912 gram has 0.0273416 MJ. Gasoline = 129.46 MJ per gal, divide by 0.0273416 MJ and a gallon of gasoline has 4735 times more energy than a gallon of HHO. HHO is like an ant fart in a football stadium, compared to gasoline.

[Daemo4]

Hello Zero,

You seem very experienced in the ways of HHO, and even if you haven't made the most efficient system out there as of yet (I'm rooting for you on your inverted T), I'm sure you seen some of the best attempts out there, being as involved in the field as you are.

So my question is, what kind of effects have you seen on IC engines with prolonged use of an HHO system? As much as I'd like to, I can not believe that an engine purely designed for a stoichiometric fuel mixture...

[Daemo4]

... would run the same with any type of additive. I think that including HHO would make combustion hotter than what the average engine is designed for and could cause heat-related engine failures. I've heard of one claim that said an engine using HHO would have to have the cylinders bored every 6 months with everyday use. I am aware of the concept of disinfo, so I would like to hear your thoughts and experience with the longevity of an HHO equipped IC engines.

[EnergySupply2008]

It is impossible for an engine with HHO to run hotter because HHO at 120 F, has 0.007224 Mega Joules of energy per liter. Gasoline has 34.2 MJ of energy per liter. At 60 MPH for 1 hour in a 30 MPG vehicle you will use 258.92 MJ of energy, but with 2 liters per minute of HHO, during the same hour, you are only adding 0.86688 MJ of energy. Only 0.3348 percent more energy.

[Daemo4]

You are comparing equal volume of unequal substances. Of course a liter of gasoline has more energy because it is in a form of much greater density. What is the energy potential of a liter of water broken down to hydrogen and oxygen with a ratio of 2:1? Technically it would be more fair to compare by weight, but I'm sure water wins either way.

[EnergySupply2008]

Each 18.01528 grams of water has 2.01588 grams of H and 15.9994 grams of O. One liter of water weighs 1000 grams. Divide 1000 by 18.01528 = 55.5084 units of water.

55.5084 X 2.01588 = 111.8983 grams of H, which has 143 MJ of energy per kilogram or 0.143 MJ per gram. 111.8983 X 0.143 = 16.00 MJ of energy.

1 liter of water produces 1866.29 liters of gases at 32 F degrees. At typical HHO cell temperature of 120 F it expands to occupy 2215 liters.

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[EnergySupply2008]

Divide 16 MJ by 2215 liters = 0.007224 MJ per liter. At 32.4 MJ per liter, gasoline has 4734 times more energy than HHO. Hydrogen wins by weight only. By volume, it cannot even remotely win.

[2H1O1]

EnergySupply2008 will tell you hes math is right but he will NOT TEST TO SEE IT and will not look at vaper to liquid as defrount

[EnergySupply2008]

When I know that liter for liter, gasoline has FOUR THOUSAND SEVEN HUNDRED AND THIRTY FOUR times more energy than HHO, why would I WANT TO TEST IT?

[2H1O1]

If you use liquid to liquid and vapor to vapor than your math is ok but you don't !

[EnergySupply2008]

Wrong, I already showed the math. You just do not understand that it is possible to calculate it, as I already did. Read carefully and you will see that it is dead on.Think man think.

[mrgalleria]

Unless you re-engineer your engine to run on a gas fuel instead of a liquid fuel. Then all your computations mean very little.

[2H1O1]

That is just what I have ben trying to show EnergySupply2008

[EnergySupply2008]

Instead of writing so many one sentence posts, why not try to explain your thinking? Let see some numbers.

[2H1O1]

I dont think you have the right numbers!

Where did you come up with your numbers? Did you test it?

[EnergySupply2008]

Tell me which numbers you think are wrong and I will be happy to explain.

[EnergySupply2008]

Which of my numbers do you think are wrong?

[EnergySupply2008]

I am talking about the absolute fact that gasoline has 4735 times more energy per liter, or gallon, or whatever quantity you care to mention, than HHO at 120 degrees Fahrenheit.

The engine does not enter into the picture when you comparing the energy content of HHO or gasoline or any fuel for that matter.

[2H1O1]

You just dont get it do you!

HHO is a supplement to add to gas just like STP!!

[EnergySupply2008]

Saying something is a supplement supposes that it has something of value to give. Generating HHO to power an engine is truly ridicules, because it consumes more energy than it gives back to the engine. Just watch ZeroFossilfuels video #175. In the comments section he states that it ran 6 percent less time WITH the HHO. If the HHO cell was producing more energy than it was consuming, the small engine would have run longer, not shorter.

[2H1O1]

yes and he says that it might need to retune lean tha motor some

[EnergySupply2008]

But just because ZFF says that, does not mean anything. What he fails to mention is that if the HHO he generated had more energy content than what he used to create the HHO the engine would have run longer, not shorter.

[2H1O1]

No. HHO will not make you have to have the cylinders bored every 6 months with everyday use.

[trugreenandtroublu]

We don't think your crazy man.. we support u.. Can't wait for ur next vid.....

[kratomosphere]

I Think something is going on with chem trails. I have seen jets make a U shaped pattern overlap one another untill the entire sky was covered. Not to menton the vapor trail was THICK! This occured over boise, ID. Why did several jets pull a 180 like that all afternoon?

Water testing after chemtrails has high barium content. What does barium do? Lowers your immune system. I am not saying this is all factual. Just saying it is worth having an open mind. See ya at FEMA camp! :)

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Okay. One jet aircraft? That I might question.

[kratomosphere]

although I did only see one aircraft at a time the rate of coverage was quick. I would have to believe there were 2 maybe more. Without a clear view of the horizons I can only speculate. It was unusual.

[EnergySupply2008]

For me, it begins with one plane on the southeast, before that one is out of sight, comes another. Repeat process 6 more times and there are multiple chemtrails within my field of view. Then they spread out and obscure the sun.

[ChrisPCrunchy]

As a consiracy theorest & a nut job I conclude that chemtrails are tiny T-Cells being released into the atmosphere. The link between the two is shown clearly here in the title

"Chem trails, & T-Cell"

Zero is trying to obscure the fact by disclaiming the existance of chemtrails.He is scaling up the T-Cells to reak even more evil upon us!

HHO really stands for Harvesting Human Organs! Therefore this gas is designed not only subdue the victim but to preserve the organs for his evil experiments.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

LOL!!!

You know what? I don't discount the existence of malicious chem trails. All I'm saying is not everything one sees in the sky is a chem trail. I'm F@#$%^& tired of everyone jumping to the wrong conclusion every F@#$%^& time!

Got it?

[ChrisPCrunchy]

What does Zero Fossil Fuel really stand for???

Zeitgeist Evil Radical Organisation

For Orderly Secret Societys Infiltrating Life

Forming Ultimate Evil Legitimation

Beware of the true agenda here ! It starts out with some innocent guy next door type trying to solve the worlds energy needs, Then suddenly ends in world domination!

Youv'e been warned!

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Someone has had too much to drink!

Hold on. Let me catch up! :-D

[ChrisPCrunchy]

Im not as think as you drunk I am! Besides its a special occasion Monday Mornin! Come to Australia & Ill buy a few too many.

[cyberteque]

What you all should really be more worried about is fine particle pollution.

While you were filming the "chem" trails, count how many diesel vehicles go past.

Fine particle pollution is the scourge of modern society.

Another damn good reason to get a compost bin, to empty you vacuum cleaner bag into.

Fine dust and soot particles are a huge health risk!

And if you really want to scare yourself, think about the ever increasing use of nano-particles.

Some think they will be the next asbestos.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

I agree completely.

[cyberteque]

Most of what people are reporting on the ground is diesel exhaust related.

If you live anywhere near a major road that has commercial transport this black dust and oily goop collects.

[EnergySupply2008]

Then why is it in 33 years of driving I never saw the brown on my roads until this year?

[llewgnal]

That's why the aleins haveing infiltrated our DOT design processes all across the nation and are building our freeways down in the ditchs, and then close off one or two lanes, call them commuter lanes and cause everyone to stay in rush hour sucking fumes as long as possible ,Eay ?

[littlepiaf]

Shame on anyone who promotes the practice of zero fossil fuels and then makes light of these lingering "vapor trails" that leave a brownish soupy mess by the end of the day blocking out the life supporting sun rays and polluting the atmosphere and above,including forming clouds that then can rain all the poison onto you,your plants and crops and lakes.If these are not "chemtrails" they are still subject for concern.BTW-these are from planes flying 1000s of ft above any landing pattern.

[EnergySupply2008]

Here in Connecticut, the brownish soupy mess you refer to seems to be leaving a lot of brown residue on our roads. Never saw that before chemtrails. Where the tires hit the road there is none, but everywhere else on some roads. You mentioned sunshine, because most of this stuff is lightweight and stays airborne for a long time, making it ACCUMULATIVE. They are messing with things that could have grave consequences, including famine, from lack of sunlight. Many gardens here, failed this year

[TimeOverMatter]

Ustream is toast

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Also see Nuclear Toast.

[heavyplastician]

At 1:52 you also catch a few orb thingies too!

[heavyplastician]

LOLZ @ "also too"

[ZeroFossilFuel]

OMG! Must be a UFO!

[mrgalleria]

I saw those too, they seem to be dirt on the windshield, as they don't move.

[ArgosSmith2009]

I think that there is nothing wrong with the topics that you have recently shown. There is a lot of different theories and worries out there, and whether they are all true or not, it is important to be aware of them and to keep an open mind.

[320iguy]

LOLz Chem-trails.......

D00D some times you get out there, but i think you're alright man.

[joewilder]

There's so much stuff out there, it's difficult to know what to believe. I have three male friends who each independently told me how concerned they were that consuming soy would make their breasts grow. I tried to find information about it online. From what I could see, there's no reason to be concerned about it. I've pretty much stopped believing that Aspartame and Saccharine are harmful.

[AlmostHome777]

wow it didn't take much for you to cower down.

[ZeroFossilFuel]

All I'm saying is just take a deep breath and think rationally. If you consider that cowering down, so be it. Can't please everyone. Don't intend to try.

[AlmostHome777]

Rational? Do you know what's happening in the Ukraine right now? ...as well as other countries? 'Rational'...man I used to respect your opinion and your intelligence. Well one thing's for sure, you won't be of that (non-whack-job) opinion for much longer. Best wishes to you!

[jlott00]

google this "atmospheric science program"

and go to first page

qoute

The current focus of the program is aerosol radiative forcing of climate: aerosol formation and evolution and aerosol properties that affect direct and indirect influences on climate and climate change.

[ShiroTenryu]

I really can't wait to see the results on the T-Cell.

[wetsailer]

vapour trails do disapate after 10 min these trail get bigger and last all day

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Depends on atmospheric conditions at the time. See my comment to jsjs525

[jsjs525]

whether they're real or not, the problem I have with accepting it as pure conspiracy theory is that I remember as a kid watching planes fly overhead, and there were never long vapor trails like what we're seeing today, some people are saying that it's something added to the fuel, others provide gunk they're finding on their grass and car as metallic fibers and such... very relevant stuff to look into especially with legislation now in congress to geoengineer the planet's atmosphere....

[ZeroFossilFuel]

I think it's more a factor that our atmosphere is changing with the massive amounts of pollutants we pour into it daily. Boundary layers of air that contain just under the amount of moisture before cloud formation will cause the vapor trails made through it by the water vapor emitted by today's jet engines to last a long time as they drift away.

[jlott00]

they dont really drift away though they turn into almost a cloud and sit there...

[ZeroFossilFuel]

You're absolutely correct. I can remember seeing exactly the same thing in the sky lasting for hours when I was a kid 40 years ago. All that has changed is the volume of air traffic.

[mrgalleria]

When I was young- 40+ years ago, I remember seeing the jets fly overhead, and watching the vapor rapidly vanish. I recall thinking how neat it would be if the trail lasted longer.

[jsjs525]

I definitely see your point... just thought I'd say its important not to completely throw it out as conspiracy, and I'm sure you haven't.... if anything what makes me nervous is the house-bill where they discuss chemtrailing as a possibility to geo-engineer the atmosphere.... I think it's Dennis Kucinich that's trying to block it with his own bill... worth checking out... I'll look for the link and pass it on to you if you're interested...

best of luck, and great job with all the videos...

[EnergySupply2008]

I believe that is an invalid argument. After watching many chem trail videos I kept an eye on my skies for about 4 months. Then one day, June 14 2008 to be exact, I saw them for the first time and approximately 3-4 days per week ever since.

[SmartScarecrow]

just tested the link to your Blog TV channel and it says its a "Deactivated Account" ??? you might want to take a hard look at that and make sure its working well ahead of time ...

[ZeroFossilFuel]

It was active 10 minutes ago! Grrrrrr. Checking...

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Okay. The problem with the link was the period at the end of the URL string. YT is not smart enough to strip it so I added a space before the period. Link works now. Thanks for the heads-up.

[apsert]

Top Post Z! Theirs always going to be NUT HEADS out there and theres nothing we can do for them apart from inform them as the bible says to do so.

[primetimebeatz]

why are people always trying to re insure there not a nut job or conspiracy theorist and the vapor trails you said is a theory too! and in the ukraine there was reported aresol spraying before the black pluege hit 600,000 reported infected

[jlott00]

this stuff is real.....chemtrails are real its been admited by the gov and declassified

[ZeroFossilFuel]

Perhaps, and if you provide me some credible links I'll add them to the sidebar. But not everything we see and hear is a conspiracy. More often than not it's a misinterpretation. I think we need to stay vigilant while keeping our wits about us. Take a deep breath. Think clearly. Cut through the BS to what's real.