Chris Hoy vs Theo Bos - sprint world championchips '08 p1

[SupremeHipHopSupply]

chezpreisto chezpreistoo !!

[chenshiwei]

Can anyone tell me why for the first half of the video the two riders did not even do any hard effort after they were released by the race officials? All I saw was just some trackstands and both riders following each other vertically up and down the velodrome. Can anyone explain what Track Racing is all about? Sorry, I don't ride track.

[drewyluvy]

@chenshiwei: in the sprint riders don't go all out, until the bell (usually). this race is all about tactics. the ideal is to be the man behind and then get the jump on the lead guy. thus, the lead person will do trackstands and other maneuvers to get the person that is behind to go to the front. hoy did something highly unusual in that he started the race behind (in the coveted spot) and then moved to the front. not sure why. after the bell they do a full lap at FULL speed

[orientalnegro]

@drewyluvy Thanks for the explanation!

[superfisto]

lol

Bos's last 200 meters is only slightly slower than my 200m TT w/ flying start

[carbonlife1]

god i wish they would jus shut the fuck up

[pepatung09]

what gear ratio did they use ??

[MrIkBenDeAllerBeste]

@pepatung09 probably 53-14

[pittchaser]

The slow-mo at the start of the race was a little unnecessary

[saxyhugs]

i have ever done a match sprint. looks like u gotta make a sneaky jump.

[arklat]

And I thought "Sir" Hoy was all that!

[nydolls73]

That was too easy

[arklat]

@3112rider1. Damn!! That is huge! When I was riding, most of us clocked around an :11, and used a 93" or so. A 52x14 is a 100", and I am guessing that is why they are hitting sub 10's. We didn't have the power to push that huge of a gear. But, I never used enhancing chemicals, either. I'm not saying Bos or Hoy do, but I"m pretty sure some are. Back in the 70's when I was on the velo, we just had good 'ol steel and alloy stuff, maybe some titanium, bikes around 15 pounds, spoked wheels.

[arklat]

Does anyone know what size gear these guys use?

[312rider1]

@arklat ...hoy normally uses 52x14, no idea what bos uses though

[getplaning]

Nice move by Bos- It was almost a full second before Hoy reacted, the race was already over, which is why he didn't pursue.

[TheFixedgear666]

i want my own velodrom.lets play lotto!

[thisisobvious]

I still don't fully understand how the starts work. I thought each rider was to hold the lane he started in?

[Mr69Mel]

@thisisobvious i think the lead guy has to lead for the first lap, then you're not allowed (supposedly!) to come off your line in the final 200m. maybe someone else can put me right on this

[PianoLerner]

Is this the velodrome?

[LoNgBoArDsFoRLiF]

@PianoLerner yep

[Kiddowesth]

Wow! Very well played tatically buy Theo Bos!!

[thekenanboy]

over as soon as bos dived thru the gap unlucky chris

[wesoishi]

The race was over at 2:58. Hoy let Bos go up track and at the same time, left that hole for Bos to dive thru (apron side). When the world record holder for the flying 200 (Bos), has several pedal strokes and bike lengths on you, there is nothing you can do. Matched sprints are like watching prize fighting, where two men square off and go head to head. It's really exciting and the highlight of any world's.

[xX6jdub9XxaaaA]

can some one explain to me how these things work? why do they like, do a prep lap and then start out of no where at different times and stuff. i dont get it.

[furorelondon]

The only thing that matters in the sprint is who crosses the line first. When the pace starts to pick up, being behind is actually an advantage, as you can draft the rider in front to conserve energy for the final sprint - so up until someone decides to sprint, it's all a game of cat and mouse - trying to get behind the other rider to gain the advantage.

[xX6jdub9XxaaaA]

so your saying that they just ride around a little bit until one of them decides to start sprinting? hmm, thats weird. and then do they go around the track once after they start sprinting and then once the pass the finish line, the actual lap starts? am i getting this?

[furorelondon]

Right, a sprint is usually 1000m (I think), whoever crosses the line first wins. The rider starts on the inside has to take the lead for the first 1/2 lap... but he doesn't want to be in the lead, as it's a disadvantage in a sprint, so they go slowly, trying to get the other person in front. They do eventually have to sprint for the line of course, but they wait until one rider sees a good opportunity to surprise their opponent, and then sprint for the line. Or there abouts.

[furorelondon]

It's all just tactics anyway. The best case scenario is to be riding just behind your opponent in the last few hundred metres, so you can ride in his slipstream and expend less energy. You can then power past with your fresher legs and overtake just before the line. The first 3/4 of the race is all just tactics, trying to manipulate your opponent into taking the lead, with you following just behind. These are the basic tactics of the race at least.

[mplayer98]

is that Ole Ritter commentating?

[arklat]

At this level, even with a huge gap like that, the following rider should make the effort to chase. The repachage is not a good reason to just quit. This is not a local weekend race. The Worlds are everything to a track racer!!!

[ph4nt0mf1ng3rs]

lol. 0:30 looks so wrong. lol.

[89Swindler]

haha indeed x

[maven21]

good move..caught him..i need to learn this sport too. some serious tactics right there. to get your opennent out of position

[buck2576]

I really need to learn this sport.  I think its crazy how they taunt each other!

[DoctorNumber46]

you think that's taunting? watch the run-up to a boxing match.

[theape2727]

@buck2576 you have no idea how fun it is

[jhardy66617]

thats a hell of a draw for either of them to get the other in the 1/4 finals

[muzeitgeist]

Nice, thanks for the upload.