Title 8, Section 1401 "citizens of the United States AT BIRTH" are "Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national"
Naturalisation Act of 1790, provided that "the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond the sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens: Provided, That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States"
@PogueMoran It gives an idea how the founding generation thought. the 1797 Treaty of Tripoli, ArT 11 which stated "he government of the US is not in any way founded on the Christian religion" changed. That was a removed in later treaties but it still gives a look into the mind of founding generation. They believed the country's government was not based in Christianity. Also - 1798 law for merchant marine healthcare that was mandated.
@vattel1 Wow, I guess your saying that makes it undeniable fact. If you had only been at that NH Ballot Commission hearing and had testified I have NO doubt the commission would have voted the other way.
@vattel1 look orly taitz is not the one to follow are make your leader, she needs help an meds she is a sad an sick women , look a the old crazy people with her they all have mental problems an they need help an meds , its wrong to call them birthers are racist there not there sick an insane nothing more
Obama supporters are ignorant of the law. They are pawns being controlled by their spurious born master. They need their welfare checks....The majority of Obama supporters are not natural Americans.
Why the continued cover up Obama was deported in 1964. If there was no divorce papers filed by Stanley Ann Obama...she and Barry would have been deported with Senior.
As a British subject getting married in Hawaii.. Barack Obama needed permission from the British consulate. How can he get permission to marry when he is married in Kenya.
If the British did not approve..the marriage not valid. This was law in 1961.
@vattel1 no your ignorant of the law and stupid plus obama sr's first marriage was a tribal marriage and had nothing to do with his marriage to ann dunha
Obama committed perjury in New Hampshire. The Supreme Court defined a natural born citizen. Obama does not meet this definition. The 9 lawmakers now have their standing. The courts can over rule the commission. File File File.
Nine New Hampshire state representatives signed a letter challenging Obama. They wrote he is not legally qualified because he is not a natural born citizen.
@vattel1 Nine New Hampshire representatives -- none of whom is a lawyer -- signed a letter with their birther pseudo-law nonsense. No one in new Hampshire government is concerned about these nine clowns' misunderstanding of law.
The Obama minions distort the Supreme Court in order to justify a fraudulent President.
They make personal attacks in an attempt to silence.
Wong Kim Ark in the holding was affirmed a citizen because his parents were permanent residents and domiciled at this birth. This is what Justice Gray wrote. The Obama supporters say he did not say this. This is a lie. Obama's father was deported, he was a transient alien student. He was never domiciled or a resident.
@vattel1 The circuit court ruled he was a natural born citizen and it was affirmed by the high court. Even the dissent thought the majority was making Wong Kim Ark and other asians eligible for the Presidency.
By law, this commission is supposed to ensure that candidates are Constitutionally eligible prior to placing their names on the ballot. Obama's declaration is fraudulent based on the Supreme Court's definition of natural-born citizen. The counsel for this committee willfully omitted this section of NH election law. Obama is subject to perjury and fraud under this same commission. They've failed in their legal obligations. Demand better, New Hampshire.
@foundjoe Nice to see that along with not knowing anything about NH election,law, you also have no idea what the SCOTUS decision on the definition of an NBC is.
@JosephofSykesville 655:17-b Declaration of Intent; Presidential Candidates I. Declarations of intent for each candidate for president who seeks nomination ... II. I ... swear under penalties of perjury that I am qualified to be a candidate for president of the United States pursuant to article II, section 1, clause 4 of the United States Constitution, which states, “No person except a natural born citizen ... if elected, I shall be qualified for and shall assume the duties of said office.
The 14th Amendment states "subject to jurisdiction" this means the parents according to the Wong Kim Ark decision they must be at least permanent residents at the birth of the child. Obama's father was a temporary resident. This means Obama fails the 14th Amendment and Wong Kim Ark.
Obama fails the natural born citizen definition in Minor v Happersett.
Today's politicians are so corrupt. It is a tragedy what is happening to this country. A nation cannot perpetuate itself unless its citizens are born from citizens. A country should desire this.
I don't doubt that, you have no skin in the game, you've never done anything in defense of the Constitution that is being spat upon every day Obama is allowed to remain in office. I've lost friends who've spilled blood while we were deployed in defense of the Constitution, I have something to lose. The fact that there are citizens of this nation that do not care that the man in the Oval Office is ineligible is pretty sad, disgusting and pathetic.
You aren't an American. You have never defended the constitution. You are an illegal combatant. Anyone who calls for Military Coups isn't an American and doesn't give a rats ass about the constitution. People like you need to be rounded up just like the enemies you are.
Rounded up by who? A bunch of broken wristed liberal men? Give me a break man, if it wasn't for the 1% of us that have actually volunteered to support and defend the Constitution, you wouldn't even have the freedom to be the disrespectful spoiled brat you are. You are the types of people that need to be rounded up and shipped to the middle east so you can get a dose of reality.
Consider that birthers can't even break a hundred at any of their rallies, I don't think we have to worry about the lunatic fringe making any headway any time soon.
@1776iscoming Less than 1% you guys are like a few dozen. The most you've ever gotten to a rally is 50 people and even then that's smaller than any occupy movement. They have more legitimacy than you
@PogueMoran I guess you can not read the polls, After the Long Form BC was released only 38% of the US believes Barry was born in the US. Heck I think he was born here just not a NATURAL BORN citizen. Cause his mom was too young and he used a foreign passport after he was 21.
@birther1968 Sorry but that's wrong. No poll claimed that. One poll was done of the republican primary in south carolina where most republicans there believed that but no poll claimed that. The next poll after the long form was released found only 10% now believed he wasn't born in the US. Sorry once again since he was born in the US the age of his mother didn't matter. You need to re-read the law you're speaking of. He didn't have a foreign passport.
WOOOO you sound so mean and tough. Why cant the simple questions be answered instead of calling the birthers names or treatening like a bully. Just answer the questions. 1. Produce for all to see and touch a microfilm copy of his BC, not the green PDF Forgery. 2. Produce a hospital that acknowlegdes his birth. 3. Can his mom give him Natural born status because of her age?4. Did he use his Indonessia passport to travel and get scholarships after becoming an adult.
@birther1968 Ridiculous you guys keep asking for more and more documentation. This is the same tactic people in the south used to dehumanize black people in the 50s. A microfilm copy is just another copy of the birth certificate much as the already released certified copies are. The security paper certified certificate isn't a forgery. Kapiolani already has acknowledged his birth. Yes she could that only applied to overseas births. No he didn't use an indonesian passport nor foreign aid.
@PogueMoran Go find a friend with PDF editor and look at the layers in the BC. If you scan a doc to PDF this does not happen. Wait for 2 yrs we were told the Longform bc did not exist, Trump turns up the heat and out of nowwhere it appears. Yet not like the twins copy which looks like a microphysch. Show me where Kapiolani has acknowledge his birth?? Excuse me at Occidental many said he went as a foreign student. That is as Barry Soretoro. Prove me wrong with valid Docs, dont hide them.
@birther1968 Yes it does happen any pdf document you scan, optimize, compress and pull into illustrator creates layers. Even the national review debunked this claim. Wrong again you were never told the long form didn't exist. You were told that the state no longer issues certified long forms as they switched to the COLB format in 2001. The twins are an old copy the mother held on to. Call kapiolani and ask? No no one at Occidental said that.
You're basing your knowledge of being a foreign student on an april fools day article on not on anything anyone said. He was not Barry Soetoro. You're the one making the claims that fly in the face of reality the onus is on you to prove it.
@birther1968 sorry but no Barry was a nickname much like Ike or Jerry his legal name has always been Barack. Moving to Indonesia for 4 years as a child has no effect on eligibility for the presidency
Dear Representatives Accornero, DeLemus and Baldasaro:
I have just had a meeting with Attorney General Delaney concerning the Ballot Law Commission hearing on November 18. He is concerned over how members of the House conducted themselves during and following the hearing ... . I am requesting that the Chief of Protective Services, Randy Joyner, conduct an investigation of the incident and provide a written report to me.
1:27. Who was speaking French?
GeorgiaKev 1 month ago
i want know to who is the little miget? its funny like they ecaped from a mental ward lol
sillycandie007 1 month ago
WHo is the midget with the big mouth?
ChicagoJoe57 2 months ago
Title 8, Section 1401 "citizens of the United States AT BIRTH" are "Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national"
ThalesAnaximander1 2 months ago
@ThalesAnaximander1
Naturalisation Act of 1790, provided that "the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond the sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens: Provided, That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States"
ThalesAnaximander1 2 months ago
@ThalesAnaximander1 This was removed during the naturalization act of 1795. Natural born citizen is no longer apart of the act
PogueMoran 2 months ago
@PogueMoran It gives an idea how the founding generation thought. the 1797 Treaty of Tripoli, ArT 11 which stated "he government of the US is not in any way founded on the Christian religion" changed. That was a removed in later treaties but it still gives a look into the mind of founding generation. They believed the country's government was not based in Christianity. Also - 1798 law for merchant marine healthcare that was mandated.
ThalesAnaximander1 2 months ago
Obama is a peregrine, spurious born, perpetual inhabitant. He is not a citizen..he is not a natural born citizen.
vattel1 2 months ago
@vattel1 Wow, I guess your saying that makes it undeniable fact. If you had only been at that NH Ballot Commission hearing and had testified I have NO doubt the commission would have voted the other way.
(In case you can't see it, sarcasm is intended).
GeorgiaKev 2 months ago
@vattel1 obama is a nbc borin in hawaii
SupremekaiD5 2 months ago
the rest of the nation laughs at your craziness.. Enjoy those low polling numbers stupid whacko birthers.
jswerve386 2 months ago
@jswerve386 birthers more like kkk clam members to america, they stand alone only the place for birthers is the nazis party not america
sillycandie007 2 months ago
Obama supporters are corrupt and ignorant. The panel is corrupt. Democrats pretending to be Republicans. They sold out. What did Obama offer them?
vattel1 2 months ago
@vattel1 look orly taitz is not the one to follow are make your leader, she needs help an meds she is a sad an sick women , look a the old crazy people with her they all have mental problems an they need help an meds , its wrong to call them birthers are racist there not there sick an insane nothing more
sillycandie007 2 months ago
Enjoy you mindless zombies, your fraud will enslave you. Wake up. The Constitution was shit on once again.
michaelsterling37 2 months ago
Obama supporters are ignorant of the law. They are pawns being controlled by their spurious born master. They need their welfare checks....The majority of Obama supporters are not natural Americans.
vattel1 2 months ago
Why the continued cover up Obama was deported in 1964. If there was no divorce papers filed by Stanley Ann Obama...she and Barry would have been deported with Senior.
vattel1 2 months ago
As a British subject getting married in Hawaii.. Barack Obama needed permission from the British consulate. How can he get permission to marry when he is married in Kenya.
If the British did not approve..the marriage not valid. This was law in 1961.
vattel1 2 months ago
@vattel1 show the law you speak of
PogueMoran 2 months ago
@vattel1 no your ignorant of the law and stupid plus obama sr's first marriage was a tribal marriage and had nothing to do with his marriage to ann dunha
SupremekaiD5 2 months ago
Barack is not a Christian name. This name violated Hawaii law in 1961. What is the real name on that birth document? Barry??
vattel1 2 months ago
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PogueMoran 2 months ago
@vattel1 what are you talking about? A name violating a state law
PogueMoran 2 months ago
Obama committed perjury in New Hampshire. The Supreme Court defined a natural born citizen. Obama does not meet this definition. The 9 lawmakers now have their standing. The courts can over rule the commission. File File File.
vattel1 2 months ago
@vattel1 Obama does meet the requirements.
PogueMoran 2 months ago
Christian name, noun: "A name that precedes a person's family name, especially the first name."
JosephofSykesville 3 months ago
Hawaii Law in 1961 states the birth child must have a Christian name. Barack Hussein Obama is not a Christian name.
vattel1 3 months ago
The US Supreme Court defined a natural born citizen as being born to citizen parents.
Obama is an illegal President. He should be arrested.
vattel1 3 months ago
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@vattel1
The supreme court never defined NBC as such. You are a liar.
AdamsOlympia 3 months ago
@vattel1 Sorry but no it did not
PogueMoran 3 months ago
Nine New Hampshire state representatives signed a letter challenging Obama. They wrote he is not legally qualified because he is not a natural born citizen.
This should be a concern.
vattel1 3 months ago
@vattel1 Nine New Hampshire representatives -- none of whom is a lawyer -- signed a letter with their birther pseudo-law nonsense. No one in new Hampshire government is concerned about these nine clowns' misunderstanding of law.
JosephofSykesville 3 months ago
The Obama minions distort the Supreme Court in order to justify a fraudulent President.
They make personal attacks in an attempt to silence.
Wong Kim Ark in the holding was affirmed a citizen because his parents were permanent residents and domiciled at this birth. This is what Justice Gray wrote. The Obama supporters say he did not say this. This is a lie. Obama's father was deported, he was a transient alien student. He was never domiciled or a resident.
Obama is not a citizen.
vattel1 3 months ago
@vattel1 The circuit court ruled he was a natural born citizen and it was affirmed by the high court. Even the dissent thought the majority was making Wong Kim Ark and other asians eligible for the Presidency.
PogueMoran 3 months ago
The stupid... it burns
witchtelus 3 months ago
By law, this commission is supposed to ensure that candidates are Constitutionally eligible prior to placing their names on the ballot. Obama's declaration is fraudulent based on the Supreme Court's definition of natural-born citizen. The counsel for this committee willfully omitted this section of NH election law. Obama is subject to perjury and fraud under this same commission. They've failed in their legal obligations. Demand better, New Hampshire.
foundjoe 3 months ago
@foundjoe Nice to see that along with not knowing anything about NH election,law, you also have no idea what the SCOTUS decision on the definition of an NBC is.
Why is it that the ignorant are the loudest?
witchtelus 3 months ago
@foundjoe How about you cite and quote this "NH law" that you claim counsel omitted? We'll wait while you fetch that cite.
JosephofSykesville 3 months ago
@JosephofSykesville 655:17-b Declaration of Intent; Presidential Candidates I. Declarations of intent for each candidate for president who seeks nomination ... II. I ... swear under penalties of perjury that I am qualified to be a candidate for president of the United States pursuant to article II, section 1, clause 4 of the United States Constitution, which states, “No person except a natural born citizen ... if elected, I shall be qualified for and shall assume the duties of said office.
foundjoe 2 months ago
I'd stack our wack jobs against state in the Union.
This is why.
word67 3 months ago
The panel is composed of Democrats?
vattel1 3 months ago
@vattel1 Ummmmm.... no, it's a mixed panel.
witchtelus 3 months ago
The 14th Amendment states "subject to jurisdiction" this means the parents according to the Wong Kim Ark decision they must be at least permanent residents at the birth of the child. Obama's father was a temporary resident. This means Obama fails the 14th Amendment and Wong Kim Ark.
Obama fails the natural born citizen definition in Minor v Happersett.
vattel1 3 months ago
@vattel1 So along with no comprehension of the 1th amendment, you've also no idea of what the ARK decision said.
Typical birther, quoting a decision that is contrary to your position, and pretending it supports you.
witchtelus 3 months ago
birthers are stupid.
modernecon 3 months ago
Today's politicians are so corrupt. It is a tragedy what is happening to this country. A nation cannot perpetuate itself unless its citizens are born from citizens. A country should desire this.
vattel1 3 months ago
@vattel1 Why are politicians only corrupt when YOU lose?
witchtelus 3 months ago
@witchtelus That's the same way these people acted during the terri schiavo case. Claiming all judges are corrupt when they didn't get their way
PogueMoran 3 months ago
birfoons are so funny when they suffer another EPIC FAIL!!
smmou812 3 months ago
Lol, Bunch of losers. I would have told the scum bag birthers to shut the hell up and get lost, if I were there at the hearing.
These people need to be slapped with huge fines and , quite frankly, have the shit beat out of them.
AdamsOlympia 3 months ago
@AdamsOlympia
I don't doubt that, you have no skin in the game, you've never done anything in defense of the Constitution that is being spat upon every day Obama is allowed to remain in office. I've lost friends who've spilled blood while we were deployed in defense of the Constitution, I have something to lose. The fact that there are citizens of this nation that do not care that the man in the Oval Office is ineligible is pretty sad, disgusting and pathetic.
1776iscoming 3 months ago
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AdamsOlympia 3 months ago
@1776iscoming
You aren't an American. You have never defended the constitution. You are an illegal combatant. Anyone who calls for Military Coups isn't an American and doesn't give a rats ass about the constitution. People like you need to be rounded up just like the enemies you are.
AdamsOlympia 3 months ago 2
@AdamsOlympia
Rounded up by who? A bunch of broken wristed liberal men? Give me a break man, if it wasn't for the 1% of us that have actually volunteered to support and defend the Constitution, you wouldn't even have the freedom to be the disrespectful spoiled brat you are. You are the types of people that need to be rounded up and shipped to the middle east so you can get a dose of reality.
1776iscoming 3 months ago
@1776iscoming 1%? more like 1/10 of 1%
Consider that birthers can't even break a hundred at any of their rallies, I don't think we have to worry about the lunatic fringe making any headway any time soon.
witchtelus 3 months ago
@1776iscoming Less than 1% you guys are like a few dozen. The most you've ever gotten to a rally is 50 people and even then that's smaller than any occupy movement. They have more legitimacy than you
PogueMoran 3 months ago
@PogueMoran I guess you can not read the polls, After the Long Form BC was released only 38% of the US believes Barry was born in the US. Heck I think he was born here just not a NATURAL BORN citizen. Cause his mom was too young and he used a foreign passport after he was 21.
birther1968 3 months ago
@birther1968 Sorry but that's wrong. No poll claimed that. One poll was done of the republican primary in south carolina where most republicans there believed that but no poll claimed that. The next poll after the long form was released found only 10% now believed he wasn't born in the US. Sorry once again since he was born in the US the age of his mother didn't matter. You need to re-read the law you're speaking of. He didn't have a foreign passport.
PogueMoran 3 months ago
@1776iscoming The fact that you think your delusion that Obama is ineligible is in any way important to America is sad and pathetic.
Birthers are a never ending source of entertainment
witchtelus 3 months ago
@AdamsOlympia Stop leaving your threats in my private mail.
AdamsOlympia private mailed me saying:
"You Need to be dealt with , birther. You are an illegal.
You will be dealt with.
your time is coming."
ohhhhh, I'm shaking in my boots! Get lost OBOT!
KenyanBornObamAcorn 2 months ago
WOOOO you sound so mean and tough. Why cant the simple questions be answered instead of calling the birthers names or treatening like a bully. Just answer the questions. 1. Produce for all to see and touch a microfilm copy of his BC, not the green PDF Forgery. 2. Produce a hospital that acknowlegdes his birth. 3. Can his mom give him Natural born status because of her age?4. Did he use his Indonessia passport to travel and get scholarships after becoming an adult.
birther1968 3 months ago
@birther1968 The question has been answered, over and over ad nauseum. You pretend it hasn't because you don't like the answer.
And if you don't wish to be ridiculed, then stop being ridiculous
witchtelus 3 months ago
@birther1968 Ridiculous you guys keep asking for more and more documentation. This is the same tactic people in the south used to dehumanize black people in the 50s. A microfilm copy is just another copy of the birth certificate much as the already released certified copies are. The security paper certified certificate isn't a forgery. Kapiolani already has acknowledged his birth. Yes she could that only applied to overseas births. No he didn't use an indonesian passport nor foreign aid.
PogueMoran 3 months ago
@PogueMoran Go find a friend with PDF editor and look at the layers in the BC. If you scan a doc to PDF this does not happen. Wait for 2 yrs we were told the Longform bc did not exist, Trump turns up the heat and out of nowwhere it appears. Yet not like the twins copy which looks like a microphysch. Show me where Kapiolani has acknowledge his birth?? Excuse me at Occidental many said he went as a foreign student. That is as Barry Soretoro. Prove me wrong with valid Docs, dont hide them.
birther1968 3 months ago
@birther1968 Yes it does happen any pdf document you scan, optimize, compress and pull into illustrator creates layers. Even the national review debunked this claim. Wrong again you were never told the long form didn't exist. You were told that the state no longer issues certified long forms as they switched to the COLB format in 2001. The twins are an old copy the mother held on to. Call kapiolani and ask? No no one at Occidental said that.
PogueMoran 3 months ago
You're basing your knowledge of being a foreign student on an april fools day article on not on anything anyone said. He was not Barry Soetoro. You're the one making the claims that fly in the face of reality the onus is on you to prove it.
PogueMoran 3 months ago
@PogueMoran His mother moved then Barrack to Indonesia and his name was changed to Barry. A name he kept well past his teenage years.
birther1968 2 months ago
@birther1968 sorry but no Barry was a nickname much like Ike or Jerry his legal name has always been Barack. Moving to Indonesia for 4 years as a child has no effect on eligibility for the presidency
PogueMoran 2 months ago
Dear Representatives Accornero, DeLemus and Baldasaro:
I have just had a meeting with Attorney General Delaney concerning the Ballot Law Commission hearing on November 18. He is concerned over how members of the House conducted themselves during and following the hearing ... . I am requesting that the Chief of Protective Services, Randy Joyner, conduct an investigation of the incident and provide a written report to me.
Sincerely,
William L. O’Brien
Speaker of the House
JosephofSykesville 3 months ago