@patruick94 - it was acquired in pieces, so I don't know the total cost. If i did, I might want to sell it all back! But it works well and saves a lot of time, which is more precious than money anyway.
What is the thing on the crimp station on your LNL? is that a counter? and were did you get that? I been looking for something like that for a long time.
@ali641 - it's a Dillon Round Counter, no longer made. You might find one used on eBay or Gunbroker if you wait long enough. Uniquetek is likely bringing their version to market this year.
all that automation... rig up an electric motor to the pull handle and sit back to watch. no sense pulling it by hand if you have machine doing everything else. haha
@fakiir - a lot of people have mentioned this, but it's a bad idea without sensors to figure out when something goes wrong. A .22lr in a case, or a .40 S&W case when expecting a 9mm, anything, you can feel something off and stop. With a motor drive, it just keeps on going and breaks parts unless sophisticated sensors shut off the power. There are drives now for Dillon Super 1050's, but you still have to sit and watch attentively for just this reason, so no time really saved.
@sinajg (and others) it's an artefact of the loading space etc. that I have to work with. Clearly not ideal, but if it works on my flexi-bench, it will work even better on a properly solid mount.
Nice setup. Just bought a Lee Loadmaster. But I can see a Hornady LnL system in my future someday. ... you had to know people were going to comment on the press mount. I mounted my press, made 200 rounds, then tore the top off my bench and reinforced everything. I can drive a truck on it now. Thanks for the videos.
can you find a machine so you dont have to pull that bothersome lever down anymore? i can see a case feeder but a bullet feeder also lol. you must be turning out a ton of rounds an hour?
very cool set up. What were you using to load the primer tube and bullets again? Also I have to agree with some of the other post. Bolt that thing to something solid. I grabbed my monitor in fear of something falling :)
@jrockflimflam - hi, was / am using the Frankford Arsenal Vibra-Prime. Not longer produced. If I was doing it again, I'd pony up for the Dillon RF 100.
I'm interested in buying this reloading set. But i'm iffy on the powder feed system. Is there a chance this might double feed or not feed powder at all, and what method do you use to check to make sure your bullets are charged?
Hi - never a double or missed drop. I used to use an RCBS Lock-Out die, but the convenience of the bullet feeder won out. Use a smooth-flowing ball powder and consistent technique and you'll be fine.
What a sweet setup. I've been wanting to get into reloading for a while now and it looks like the hornady lnl ap is the way to go. How much did your set up cost you to get started?
I bought the press used and picked up the accessories over time, so there's no was to know about the cost.
You can look online for everything; Hornady has an online store, and their tech support will assist you in what you need. Other bits and pieces, just google.
Overall, more expensive than an equivalent Lee Loadmaster and less expensive than an equivalent Dillon 650.
It's a Dillon round counter. Clips on to the crimping die (the rod goes through the die and is activated by the bullet). I find it handy. Dillon no longer makes them, but you can search eBay. UniqueTek is planning an electronic version.
Agreed - I like using the RCBS lock-out die, but the extra speed with the bulletfeeder is too good to miss out on. My mitigation is to use easy-flowing powders that run through the measure reliably. As for doubles, one could use a bulky powder that would overflow (I don't).
It vibrates, and the primers shake into the tube. Frankford no longer sells them, but the Dillon tube filler is still available - although much more expensive.
Needs a more solid mount for the press, and the first part is a CASE feeder. I have the Vibra Prime and sometimes it flips the primers as they go into the tube. Otherwise I love my Lock-N-Load AP. press.
No, it's the collator that correctly orients cases so that they can be fed. Yes, when you buy the "case feeder" you get the collator/feeder assembly, but it's good to know the difference. Some bullet feeders, for example the Lee one, do not have a collator, which limits their utility. And the Lee case feeder has an optional (albeit inexpensive) collator.
I used a Lee 1000 for 8 years before IT BLEW UP! The primer tray exploded (using Fed Primers). I will admit that I must have applied too much force but the fact is the primers are right next to each other on the ramp. Not a good combo.
With the Get loaded program the press is almost FREE!
Ok I did my homework and tommorow ill be buying a LNL hornady press with a case feeder for 640$. And also their promotional is 1000 free bullets(just pay 12.99 shipping and you get 10 boxes of jacketed bullets.A quarter turn and the dies pop out and this press is auto turn.I just cant get a better deal than that.If i bought the press and case feeder separate it would be 900$.Sorry Dillon,RCBS and Lee you lose.
I have a Dillon 1050 with the K.I.S.S. feeder and it rocks!!! I can do 100 rounds in less than 5 minutes!!! Wouldn't trade this setup for anything. You need a stronger mount for your press. Gotta love the Vibra Prime!!! Too bad they don't sell it anymore...
tsk, tsk - you need to google "dillon hornady lee comparison" - the dies snap in and out with a quick, short twist. It's faster than a removable head; more flexible (change out a single dies in seconds), and more stable - the removable heads have to have some play to slide in and out; and easier to store the dies.
If you want to play, you have to pay. you can easily price it yourself from websites - the LNL AP, the case feeder, and the KISS bulletfeeder - all available online. The amount of time it saves is well worth it - not to mention the end of pinched fingers from trying to feed the bullet while maintaining some speed.
Sure - thought about it. But what happens when a 9 gets stuck inside a 40 and the hydraulic cylinder, or whatever, keeps moving.... industrial presses have tons of sensors and fast-acting clutches to prevent serious breakage.
hi, jumble crash. in the case and bullet feeder, what makes the cases and bullets orientate the right way round? is there some web sites that shows the mechanisms involved in this machine?
If you want the video carefully, you'll see it. For cases, the heavy base will make the case stable in the plate slot as it feeds up. If the case is upside down, the heavy base (now above the slot) will flip the case out. For the bullet feeder, there is a groove that grabs and turns bullet tips - but is too small for the bullet base to interact with.
hi, jumble crash. in the case and bullet feeder, what makes the cases and bullets orientate the right way round? is there some web sites that shows the mechanisms involved in this machine?
I was looking for your post on the canadiangunnuts site but the forums are empty. do you have it posted somewhere else, or can you send me a copy. Im like you set up. My friends and i have been discussing which feeder to choose, and you set up looks like it is still 300 bucks cheaper then the dillon 1050 and with the Kiss also quicker. Any wisdom you have is welcome.
Yes, I'd buy it again. Just did 400 .223 in almost no time at all. For tips, you can read my complete writeup on the three major progressives at the CanadianGunNutz site, search for "dillon / lee / hornady progressive comparison".
You're absolutely right. Eventually I'll rebuild the bench from scratch; until then, the fact that the setup works at all with that much wobble tells you how well it will work on a sturdy bench.
Is the press very heavy? How much bench overhang does one need with it? Why does your press look like it's so unstable? Does that affect performance when you are cycling? What type of speed can you muster without the feeders? Correspondingly, what kind of speed do you get with the case feeder alone? With the case feeder and bullet feeder?
You can read my complete writeup on the three major progressives at the CanadianGunNutz site, search for "dillon / lee / hornady progressive comparison"
Thanks! I have a Lee Classic Turret Press with five Lee die sets. It was tough deciding between your press and a 550B. I ended up getting a Square Deal B, believe it or not, because I wanted auto-indexing and the Dillon CS. I won't get it for two more days. Anyway, I'll read your reviews. I can always change my mind if I don't like the Dillon for some reason. Thank you.
I had actually read it a number of times. Overall, it was informative to read, though difficult at times gramatically, structurally. But worthwhile reading and I thank you for it!
Regarding stability, I have a low ceiling and built a compromise mount to accommodate that - if the press works on such a wobbly mount, it will work even better on a normal bench.
You're most welcome. I have owned this press, a 650, and a Loadmaster, and consider this to be the best value for my type of reloading (some volume, some tinkering with loads).
Man all these cool reloading machines make me feel like an idiot with my little Lee Loader, hammering away, making a round every couple minutes...
It's all good though. I don't shoot enough to justify the cost of a setup like this.
Anyway, really cool setup, bro!
heysmithy 7 months ago
@heysmithy It's all about what works for you. If your volume is low, the lee loaders works fine. It was my first reloading tool.
jumbleCrash 2 months ago
@jumbleCrash the lee progressive that is around 150 bucks is a piece of junk.
mycaddigo 1 month ago
@patruick94 - it was acquired in pieces, so I don't know the total cost. If i did, I might want to sell it all back! But it works well and saves a lot of time, which is more precious than money anyway.
jumbleCrash 11 months ago
What is the thing on the crimp station on your LNL? is that a counter? and were did you get that? I been looking for something like that for a long time.
ali641 1 year ago
@ali641 - it's a Dillon Round Counter, no longer made. You might find one used on eBay or Gunbroker if you wait long enough. Uniquetek is likely bringing their version to market this year.
jumbleCrash 1 year ago
@jumbleCrash rounds per hour?
phil656565 1 year ago
I really like the bullet feeder where'd you get it ?
fhernandez25 1 year ago
@fhernandez25 - mrbulletfeeder - google it.
jumbleCrash 1 year ago
all that automation... rig up an electric motor to the pull handle and sit back to watch. no sense pulling it by hand if you have machine doing everything else. haha
fakiir 1 year ago
@fakiir - a lot of people have mentioned this, but it's a bad idea without sensors to figure out when something goes wrong. A .22lr in a case, or a .40 S&W case when expecting a 9mm, anything, you can feel something off and stop. With a motor drive, it just keeps on going and breaks parts unless sophisticated sensors shut off the power. There are drives now for Dillon Super 1050's, but you still have to sit and watch attentively for just this reason, so no time really saved.
jumbleCrash 1 year ago
I'm no expert, but it looks like you may want a better base for your reloader. Quite a bit of wobble going on.
sinajg 1 year ago
@sinajg (and others) it's an artefact of the loading space etc. that I have to work with. Clearly not ideal, but if it works on my flexi-bench, it will work even better on a properly solid mount.
jumbleCrash 1 year ago
How do you like this press? I've been looking at the Hornady for a while. I currently load on a single stage RCBS Rock Chucker.
PornDawgDaddy 1 year ago
@PornDawgDaddy - like it a lot, read my writeup on the three majors to get a feel for the strengths of each.
jumbleCrash 1 year ago
@jumbleCrash - apparently youtube won't let me post a link, so just google "dillon lee hornady" - my comparison is the first result.
jumbleCrash 1 year ago
All you need now is an automated lever puller and just walk away!
FLATblacktical 1 year ago
I read your article, excellent job. I have the loadmaster, it's finicky but the price is right. The Hornady sure looks nice.
Colinpark 1 year ago
could you make a video where you explane the setup, mounting, price and show it all working together like in the end here?
halla369 1 year ago
all them goodies and still a wobbly bench LOL........
excelerater 1 year ago
Nice setup. Just bought a Lee Loadmaster. But I can see a Hornady LnL system in my future someday. ... you had to know people were going to comment on the press mount. I mounted my press, made 200 rounds, then tore the top off my bench and reinforced everything. I can drive a truck on it now. Thanks for the videos.
TFMTraining 1 year ago
can you find a machine so you dont have to pull that bothersome lever down anymore? i can see a case feeder but a bullet feeder also lol. you must be turning out a ton of rounds an hour?
JAG6363 1 year ago
very cool set up. What were you using to load the primer tube and bullets again? Also I have to agree with some of the other post. Bolt that thing to something solid. I grabbed my monitor in fear of something falling :)
jrockflimflam 1 year ago
@jrockflimflam - hi, was / am using the Frankford Arsenal Vibra-Prime. Not longer produced. If I was doing it again, I'd pony up for the Dillon RF 100.
jumbleCrash 1 year ago
Cool video. Now go and mount your press properly, and get rid of that funky swaying that's probably giving you inconsistent powder drops.
RaymondMillbrae 1 year ago
I'm interested in buying this reloading set. But i'm iffy on the powder feed system. Is there a chance this might double feed or not feed powder at all, and what method do you use to check to make sure your bullets are charged?
hkrivell 1 year ago
Hi - never a double or missed drop. I used to use an RCBS Lock-Out die, but the convenience of the bullet feeder won out. Use a smooth-flowing ball powder and consistent technique and you'll be fine.
jumbleCrash 1 year ago
You'd think with all the money he spent on that he would of at least mounted it on something secure!
TheMisfit621 1 year ago
Nice
ECTBWHO 2 years ago
What a sweet setup. I've been wanting to get into reloading for a while now and it looks like the hornady lnl ap is the way to go. How much did your set up cost you to get started?
smttysmth02gt 2 years ago
I bought the press used and picked up the accessories over time, so there's no was to know about the cost.
You can look online for everything; Hornady has an online store, and their tech support will assist you in what you need. Other bits and pieces, just google.
Overall, more expensive than an equivalent Lee Loadmaster and less expensive than an equivalent Dillon 650.
jumbleCrash 2 years ago
Is that a round counter you have on the 5th station? Where did you get that?
Thanks
Glenn
Depdog747 2 years ago
It's a Dillon round counter. Clips on to the crimping die (the rod goes through the die and is activated by the bullet). I find it handy. Dillon no longer makes them, but you can search eBay. UniqueTek is planning an electronic version.
jumbleCrash 2 years ago
Looks cool but than you can't use the powder cop die in the forth position. Keep a close eye for empty/double charges if you go this route.
jsuther8903 2 years ago
Agreed - I like using the RCBS lock-out die, but the extra speed with the bulletfeeder is too good to miss out on. My mitigation is to use easy-flowing powders that run through the measure reliably. As for doubles, one could use a bulky powder that would overflow (I don't).
jumbleCrash 2 years ago
This is way awesome!
How does the primer pickup device work? Is it like a vacuum that goes straight into the primer tube?
EriccartmanR1 2 years ago
It vibrates, and the primers shake into the tube. Frankford no longer sells them, but the Dillon tube filler is still available - although much more expensive.
jumbleCrash 2 years ago
damm your lazy .... like me, I have got to get that set up now and maybe I can get my dog to just pull it like that .lol , looks good
benjamind1234 2 years ago
I can't find the k.i.s.s. bullet feeder anywhere. can u help?
Randomprecinct 2 years ago
Google "mrbulletfeeder".
jumbleCrash 2 years ago
Needs a more solid mount for the press, and the first part is a CASE feeder. I have the Vibra Prime and sometimes it flips the primers as they go into the tube. Otherwise I love my Lock-N-Load AP. press.
GSPKurt 3 years ago
No, it's the collator that correctly orients cases so that they can be fed. Yes, when you buy the "case feeder" you get the collator/feeder assembly, but it's good to know the difference. Some bullet feeders, for example the Lee one, do not have a collator, which limits their utility. And the Lee case feeder has an optional (albeit inexpensive) collator.
jumbleCrash 3 years ago
i wished i had this
duemamay 3 years ago 5
how much does that setup cost?
eternetytenrete 3 years ago
great set up but why u hve ur press on a small board tht move like crazy .....
golden0105 3 years ago
i see a lot of that of that on this site.....everything i have is mounted to steel.....nothing moves period
cuttercanfly 3 years ago
why do you load your primers over the washing machine?
Crypto666 3 years ago
Maybe its so he can get a 'clean' load
;)
hetgow 2 years ago
dude why not just get something to crank the handle for you aswell haha you might aswell considering the other things you go on it
jubbles2343 3 years ago
the problem with that is much of loading is done by FEEL.
An automated system would lack this.
EESASTORM 3 years ago
true
jubbles2343 3 years ago
now all you need is an automated shaft, so you can just sit back :P
MattyHild 3 years ago
Damn Straight,
They've got a widget for every task!
And here I am opening up my own beercans like a schmuk :-)
OzClawhammer 3 years ago
Must get one of this bullet fedders.... can you recommend one..?
//Pergite from Sweden
Pergite77 3 years ago
Long process?
WOW.....it takes less than 2 minutes to go from .308 to 9mm and back again.
That included all the dies (settings retained).
The primer system.
The powder drop (setting retained).
The AP is beautiful!
EESASTORM 3 years ago
I'm buying a progressive in the next 2 weeks. Is there any reason I should buy the Hornady over the Lee Loadmaster? 90% of my reloading is .223.
kotsxz 3 years ago
google "dillon hornady lee comparison" - you'll find my writeup comparing the three major brands.
jumbleCrash 3 years ago
I hope I caught you in time.
BUY THE HORNADY!
I used a Lee 1000 for 8 years before IT BLEW UP! The primer tray exploded (using Fed Primers). I will admit that I must have applied too much force but the fact is the primers are right next to each other on the ramp. Not a good combo.
With the Get loaded program the press is almost FREE!
EESASTORM 3 years ago
Ok I did my homework and tommorow ill be buying a LNL hornady press with a case feeder for 640$. And also their promotional is 1000 free bullets(just pay 12.99 shipping and you get 10 boxes of jacketed bullets.A quarter turn and the dies pop out and this press is auto turn.I just cant get a better deal than that.If i bought the press and case feeder separate it would be 900$.Sorry Dillon,RCBS and Lee you lose.
swordmanjohn 3 years ago
Where did you find a LNL Hornady press with a case feeder for $640?
Abitjoyfull 3 years ago
I have a Dillon 1050 with the K.I.S.S. feeder and it rocks!!! I can do 100 rounds in less than 5 minutes!!! Wouldn't trade this setup for anything. You need a stronger mount for your press. Gotta love the Vibra Prime!!! Too bad they don't sell it anymore...
PistolPeteUSPSA 3 years ago
tsk, tsk - you need to google "dillon hornady lee comparison" - the dies snap in and out with a quick, short twist. It's faster than a removable head; more flexible (change out a single dies in seconds), and more stable - the removable heads have to have some play to slide in and out; and easier to store the dies.
jumbleCrash 3 years ago
how expensive was this set up?
crv423 3 years ago
If you want to play, you have to pay. you can easily price it yourself from websites - the LNL AP, the case feeder, and the KISS bulletfeeder - all available online. The amount of time it saves is well worth it - not to mention the end of pinched fingers from trying to feed the bullet while maintaining some speed.
jumbleCrash 3 years ago
yeah all you need is a bunch of sensors and some pnumatics or something. pretty cool!
jasonm621 3 years ago
Now all you need is something to automatically operate the ram. :P
tehspillah 3 years ago
Sure - thought about it. But what happens when a 9 gets stuck inside a 40 and the hydraulic cylinder, or whatever, keeps moving.... industrial presses have tons of sensors and fast-acting clutches to prevent serious breakage.
jumbleCrash 3 years ago
hi, jumble crash. in the case and bullet feeder, what makes the cases and bullets orientate the right way round? is there some web sites that shows the mechanisms involved in this machine?
samisamisami007 3 years ago
If you want the video carefully, you'll see it. For cases, the heavy base will make the case stable in the plate slot as it feeds up. If the case is upside down, the heavy base (now above the slot) will flip the case out. For the bullet feeder, there is a groove that grabs and turns bullet tips - but is too small for the bullet base to interact with.
jumbleCrash 3 years ago
How much did all of this cost?
jubbles2343 3 years ago
hi, jumble crash. in the case and bullet feeder, what makes the cases and bullets orientate the right way round? is there some web sites that shows the mechanisms involved in this machine?
samisamisami007 3 years ago
That thing is sure wobbling around alot aint it? I would mount it alittle stronger.
bigdaddy1325 3 years ago
I was looking for your post on the canadiangunnuts site but the forums are empty. do you have it posted somewhere else, or can you send me a copy. Im like you set up. My friends and i have been discussing which feeder to choose, and you set up looks like it is still 300 bucks cheaper then the dillon 1050 and with the Kiss also quicker. Any wisdom you have is welcome.
thanks
kamikazetsunamis 4 years ago
The forums are quite full - it's the busiest gun site in Canada. You have to join to see anything.
You can also google "dillon lee hornady winter" - the first result is my writeup.
jumbleCrash 4 years ago
Hey,
Anyway I can get a detailed list of your set up?
KRN762 4 years ago
How do you like your LnL overall? Would you buy it again? Any tips? Looking at getting one in the next week or so...
sorryociffer 4 years ago
Yes, I'd buy it again. Just did 400 .223 in almost no time at all. For tips, you can read my complete writeup on the three major progressives at the CanadianGunNutz site, search for "dillon / lee / hornady progressive comparison".
jumbleCrash 4 years ago
Very cool video.
I have a L'nL on its way to my house with the casefeeder.
I think I now need to research the Kiss bullet feeder.
I currently own a Dillon SDB which I do love but it doesn't do rifle rounds.
bobotech 4 years ago
Just get a 550b ...it does both
swordmanjohn 3 years ago
Why would I want a less flexible machine?
5 holes vs 4, non-autoindexing vs autoindexing, etc.
I will stick with my L'nL, thank you very much.
bobotech 3 years ago 4
Both of what? The 550 is far less capable than a LNL AP. If you wanted to compare to Dillon, you'd compare to a 650.
jumbleCrash 3 years ago
Wow! Great products there.
Thanks!
MrTieDye 4 years ago
Nice looking setup but you need a sturdier work surface, it was wobbling all over.
sorryociffer 4 years ago
You're absolutely right. Eventually I'll rebuild the bench from scratch; until then, the fact that the setup works at all with that much wobble tells you how well it will work on a sturdy bench.
jumbleCrash 4 years ago
Your photographer did a good job.
Is the press very heavy? How much bench overhang does one need with it? Why does your press look like it's so unstable? Does that affect performance when you are cycling? What type of speed can you muster without the feeders? Correspondingly, what kind of speed do you get with the case feeder alone? With the case feeder and bullet feeder?
What is/are major problems with the press?
What do you like most about the press?
Thanks!
brentfoto 4 years ago
You can read my complete writeup on the three major progressives at the CanadianGunNutz site, search for "dillon / lee / hornady progressive comparison"
jumbleCrash 4 years ago
Thanks! I have a Lee Classic Turret Press with five Lee die sets. It was tough deciding between your press and a 550B. I ended up getting a Square Deal B, believe it or not, because I wanted auto-indexing and the Dillon CS. I won't get it for two more days. Anyway, I'll read your reviews. I can always change my mind if I don't like the Dillon for some reason. Thank you.
brentfoto 4 years ago
I had actually read it a number of times. Overall, it was informative to read, though difficult at times gramatically, structurally. But worthwhile reading and I thank you for it!
brentfoto 4 years ago
Regarding stability, I have a low ceiling and built a compromise mount to accommodate that - if the press works on such a wobbly mount, it will work even better on a normal bench.
jumbleCrash 4 years ago
Thanks for the look, I have a dillon 550b and am considering this one.
xsquid1 4 years ago
You're most welcome. I have owned this press, a 650, and a Loadmaster, and consider this to be the best value for my type of reloading (some volume, some tinkering with loads).
jumbleCrash 4 years ago
Why?
brentfoto 4 years ago
I'm just posting back here but I got the Hornady lnl a little while ago and love it. I see being with this one for a long time.
xsquid1 4 years ago