At the DNC: Watching Clinton's speech at "The PUMA Den"

[attykon]

Obama is a deceiver and a liar. Mccain is a d bag. Bush is a d bag. Clinton is a d bag. Regan was a d bag. Nixon was a d bag. Kennedy was America

[isisdagmar]

What? Barack Obama voted against John Roberts. Were all the women in this video who opposed Obama so ill-informed about him ?

[dfhskd]

Ha Ha! You lost!!!

ANY AMERICAN who attacks President Obama--and in a time of war and economic crisis--is an anti-American, Al Qaeda sympathyizing traitor.

Obama is the country and the country is the leader.

If you don't like the way Obama runs the country, LEAVE!!!!

[MystikWizard]

Hmmm, all women in the PUMA den. I wonder what this election was about for them?

Nice try, Feminists. Look at it this way. In the end, it was about the Issues, after all, for a majority of Americans. Which is what it should have been for you, rather than a glorified women's rights crusade.

[rob3gd]

if it was about th issues then hillary would be the nominee

[MystikWizard]

Not really. People had problem with Hillary's character and voting record. It was about the Issues for people, and the public viewed her as a Republican in Democrat's clothing.

[rob3gd]

oh yeah mr. i voted present over 100 times, and i pressed the "wrong button" 10 times. mr. i barley showed up in the senate to vote. i agree people had a problem wit her, i am sorry if she didn't have that manly charisma, or that nice smile, or those good old boy speeches

[MystikWizard]

No, she must have lost that charisma dodging sniper fire in Bosnia or searching tirelessly for those Whitewater documents. Women and Gay Men, who both seem to identify with women, just can't seem to comprehend that she lost because people wanted to move beyond the Bush/Clinton years and because of her Iraq War Vote that she never apologized for, lies embellishing her experience, the fact that she took the most lobbyist money out of all the candidates from both Republican and Democrats, etc.

[afannell]

But you're a hipocrite for voting for McCain since Hillary's issues are the same as Obama's.

[SupremekaiD5]

obama won obama won he's our new presidnet

[DelValle1980]

Why this people supported Hillary in the first place if at the end they are not supporting the candidate who most closely mirrors Hillary's positions. That's something that none of this PUMAs bitches (Male or Female) had been able to explain.

Stupid bitches!!!

[witchbippy]

Because they are protest voting and won't vote for Obama. They want McCain to win so Hillary can run in 2012.

Problem is, it's asinine reasoning. And there's no reason to believe that Hillary would win then either. I know I won't vote for her again.

Nader/Gonzalez '08

[DelValle1980]

I can understand why they would not vote for Obama, that's not the issue, that's WHY I'm asking, why they supported Hillary in the first place. You can even vote for Nader as a protest vote, that would be logical, but not a vote for McCain. In the other hand you're right it's asinine reasoning, and not just because there's no reason to believe that Hillary would win, but because if Obama looses because of them, the Democratic backlash would be against Hillary even when would not be her fault.

[witchbippy]

There are probably some PUMAs that will vote for Ralph but most won't 'cause that won't help put McCain in office as much as voting for him will. Also, if you check out their websites you will see that these people don't like progressives,blame them for the Obama win, and want them out of "their" party.

Pretty ridiculous since Obama is a centrist just like Hillary.

Ralph Nader is the only TRUE progressive.

Nader/Gonzalez '08

[DelValle1980]

Totally agree!!

[witchbippy]

Oops, my bad, Cynthia McKinney, who is running for the green party, is also a progressive.

Go Nader!!!!!!!

[olivemike81]

"McCain is an enemy that we know." Great attitude. So glad we haven't heard from the pumas in a while.

[TsuNaru]

Watching them watch Clinton's Speech and Clap and Boo reminded me of kindergartners watching a scawy movie with a big bad villain.

Hilarious.

[witchbippy]

The era of forced pregnancy is over? Try reading articles just from 2006 on the NARAL website. This fight will never be over and to dismiss it and become complacent about the issue is dangerous to women and pro-choice America.

BTW, I am a woman that voted for Ms. Clinton in the primaries but I DO NOT support PUMA!

Obama '08!

[witchbippy]

I forgot to mention that I have seen the PUMA and JSND (and a few other supporters)websites and in my opinion these organizations are suspect and at the very least, these people are a bunch of hypocrytical, pseudo-feminist morons with a questionable and completely nonsensical agenda!

[kidestranged]

Hillary would have been a great leader. She fought a great fight but according to the rules that they both fought by, lost.

Pumas that supported Hillary and what she stood for must believe that McCain, a repub w/ opposite stances on almost every issue, may jeopardize womans right to choose, leave more people uninsured, neglect our environment and start/continue unnecessary wars.

Voting for McCain when, according to your beliefs, people will unnecessarily suffer or die is childish and pathetic.

[Troublesome2008]

This is indeed kinda sick. We (non Americans) look at you and shake our heads. It's one thing to vote for a Republican you agree with, but this... It makes me sick to my stomach. For me, it doesn't matter anymore who wins. America is doomed... Part of me hopes Obama looses the elections and comes to Europe, we could use a smart guy like him. The next president of the USA will be left with the legacy of Bush, so it will be a hell of a job anyway. Obama, these ignorant morons don't deserve you...

[witchbippy]

T, please don't think that this group is representative of american women, feminists, or even Hillary voters, they are NOT and their lack of numbers and funds support that fact.

Peace,

Lisa

[jennwar]

Go Pumas!!!

[dpphil]

Gallup Poll Daily tracking finds more former Hillary Clinton backers currently supporting Barack Obama (81%) than prior to the Democratic convention (70%).

[vonniewit]

Sick...sick...sick...

[micdagreat1]

You complain about the sexist treatment of Clinton but then you boo Michelle Obama.YOU ARE ALL HYPOCRITES OF THE HIGHEST ORDER!!A tree truly is known by the fruit it bears...

[crazybluto]

Taking out your anger towards a so-called violation of the rules committee by voting for McCain doesn't make sense to me for a number of reasons.

1. You can write in Hillary Clinton

2. Barack and Hillary had nearly identical platforms.

3. McCain can not possibly represent the things that swayed you to Hillary, unless those things were based on race or possibly age.

I don't think the average American deserves four more years of a Republican White House. And Hillary felt so too when she began.

[DEMorDIE]

Without all the ignorant and vile language used here, I can merely state that a vote for Obama would legitimize the illegal actions of the DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee on May 31. They stole the nomination and gave it to Obama by giving him delegates he did not earn, four of them, stripped from Clinton. No self-respecting Democrat should vote for this. Screw them in November, they deserve it!

[jemicide12]

All these Idiots can suck my dick...putting a republican in office spell disaster.....

Their not voting for Obama because he is black....Racist bitches.....

AMERICANS ARE the most stupidest and the most Idiotic people that lives on earth...

How the fuck you voting republican....When their 8 years didn't do shit for us....Lighten Motherfuckers...

[muffin1559]

Sucking dick is Obama's pass time! Just ask Larry!

[mobzone]

I don't think this vid says much for the intelligence and decision making abilities of the voters in this campaign. It amazes me as an outsider (From South Africa)that people would so easily let up on their principles and affiliations over some in party disagreements.Vote for the right reasons not just to cause havoc. Voting is a PRIVILEGE just as it is a right. "Feel that Mccain is an enemy that we know"..hmmm....Americans..well at least some of them?

[katelbr]

wow

so i hope this small group of women get to have their feelings validated, FUCK THE COUNTRY. Let the country go down the drain, all I care about is that these women don't get their feelings hurt.

honestly, I'm just shocked by the stupidity witnessed in this video.

[ocean7227]

Each woman in that small group represents many woman not in the video. It's the Dem party and the Obama freaks that alienated us,with their vile disrespect for Hillary and her supporters. You can't stab a friend in the back and expect them to continue to support you. I think Obama's campaign should have paid attention to what was going on in the liberal blogs and stopped it. It was incredibly ugly, and changed my opinion of the Democratic party for the rest of my life.

[kellyknowles1]

EXACTLY! I hope you were able to catch Thompson and Lieberman tonight at the RNC, if not take some time to back track and listen to their message. I was also at the Dayton Rally when Sarah was intro'd, there were tons of other Dems who felt exactly like us and who are now voting Mccain/Palin with enthusiasm! The Dem Party simply is not the same as it used to be.

[JohannaPalacio001]

Great video! No Obama! No Obama!

[myebuzzdotcom]

Kewl vid

[FrankCastlez]

The only people that can vouch for Barack Obama are people he doesn't want us to know that he knows very well and he doesn't want us to hear from: William Ayers;, Jeremiah Wright; that fruitcake priest, Pfleger; and who else? Some of these other guys that got him involved with these cronies in the Chicago world of thug politics. I mean you talking about an empty suit and an empty resume? typical chicago liberal coruption!!

[AZTLANBUSTERS]

The Democrat flood to McCain is well underway.

[kellyknowles1]

The levy is holding and looks like the waters receding!

Mccain/Palin 08

[obamaxxx]

LOUD cry to the Democratic Party.

We do not want to turn from DemocraTs to be DemocraPs.

It's time to SPLIT the party. We do not want to be part of the dirty plot to put NObama in the White House, to apply a far leftist socialist hidden agenda to the USA.

The 18 million America lovers DemocraTs shall never VOTE for NObama the DemocrP.

The Reagan DemocraTs shall vote for McCain 2008.

SPLIT THE PARTY NOW, we reject NObama and all other cheaply bought puppets in the party.

[disintegratingeden]

That's right! Because you speak for all Democrats!

I can call Obama a socialist, too. As a matter of fact, I'll one up you- he's a BABY KILLER!

Fuck you, facts and rationality!

[tristkiss]

No way in HELL Obama can be trusted in the WH. His history & cheating tactics to steal elections are proof enough.

But the bigger issue is the DNC. Even the Repubs don't defraud their OWN PEOPLE! If they can do this to us why does anyone think once elected they WON'T do it to ALL American people?

We were told by Obama he doesn't need our vote just our money. Brazile told us to stay home on Nov 4. They want us OUT or want us rendered completely powerless. If they win we will be

So they MUST LOSE!

[disintegratingeden]

What in the FUCK are you people talking about?

I browse some of these message boards and am blown away by people's sheer willingness to believe this bullshit they're being fed.

Hillary played the same game as Obama, and she fucking lost. Alright? Same game, same pursuit of delegates, and she lost.

Would you be complaining if your candidate won? And the tides were turned?

How can you justify voting for McCain when your candidate is on the opposite side of virtually EVERY issue he stands for?

[govspysonallchats]

Actually I think both of the parties support corporate interestes, throw them both out.

This whole idea that the two parties are some how different is kinda rediculous when you think about it, they differ on a small number of issues they think will win the vote then dont even stay true to them unless the corporations allow it.

You are fooling yourself, or maybe just trying to fool others, if you think either Obama or McCain will fix the problems we are in right now. Neigher of them will.

[disintegratingeden]

So we wouldn't be a different nation with Gore rather than Bush? Or Kerry? Or Dole rather than Clinton? Supreme Court justices, presidential vetoes, military action, these are all powers that the President has.

I agree to some extent, especially with smaller politics. But presidential politics matter.

[govspysonallchats]

We will never know but at this point Obama is no different then McCain far as I can tell cept maybe their lies. They are both servants to the same evil, there is no longer a lesser evil. I believe Bush has changed the entire political stage so much that the democrats are feeding from the same corporate slop hole as the republicans. I dont think it has been a whole lot differentin the past but I believe in individuals not groups. There will always be good people among the corrupt, just fewer now.

[disintegratingeden]

Haha... really? That's gonna need a minute to sink in...

So when Bush vetoes health insurance for children, that wouldn't be different with Obama? When Bush/McCain refuses a timetable for withdrawal in Iraq, that wouldn't be different with Obama? When the three justices that are even older than McCain retire or die, their replacements won't make a difference whether granted by McCain or Obama? When Bush/McCain cut taxes for the wealthiest, that wouldnt change with a different president?

Hmm...

[disintegratingeden]

I don't know if you've read my reply yet, but I'd really like a response to it. I'd like to know how you can truly believe that when factual evidence doesn't support your conclusion at all, and when half of that is just based on hearsay and nothingness...

[govspysonallchats]

You can say that lying about your posistion makes a difference in reality but it doesnt. I dont think you understand that the democratic leadership has let Bush stay in iraq and in office? The wealthy are already getting tax cuts under the democratic leadership in congress? Why do you think Obama will change the status quo?

Btw you have no choice but to responde because you are merely paid to be here and I already know you will argue stupidity to death because its what your work manual says.

[disintegratingeden]

Really? Are you that fucking paranoid that you think I work for the government?

I'm fucking sorry, dude. I'll stop just to let you try and live a little more peacefully...

[govspysonallchats]

Automated response #152... got any more? I knew for a fact you had to respond, I called you out and you fell for it. You proved it yourself no matter how poorly you lie it doesnt work any more. The intelligence required to fool people, who are actually paying attention, is not availble to you. You have failed in your job, go home sad and tell your boss you need a pay cut because you make all green badgers look bad. Keep responding because you have no choice, lap dog.

[againsttheherd]

Remember that there was a lot of voter fraud by the Obama camp.

Please watch this video

watch?v=iIJVLxhmbXw

[disintegratingeden]

You're right. Because some random bitter Clinton supporter knows all the facts about the Obama campaign, and supports all of her "facts" with a monologue on YouTube.

Touche, random YouTube patron. Touche...

[againsttheherd]

I guess this means you didn't watch the video.

[disintegratingeden]

I absolutely watched it. It didn't make a fucking bit of sense to me.

You people claim to support Hillary because of her issues, unless you're voting for the entirely wrong reasons. Why, then, would you vote for somebody who works so hard to undo her work? Why, then, would you vote for somebody who so vehemently disagrees with her? That does not make a fucking bit of sense.

[djuranga]

Good work in Denver PUMAS. Let's keep up the pressure and get rid of the bums in the DNC, Dean, Pelosi, Reid, Brazile and Kerry.

[Veltanschaung]

You go Pumas - the last real Democrats!

This is the real Revolution!

Sweetie will just have to "get over it" !

Sending Biden over for more xerox paper won't cut it, boys!

Nobama '08

GrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrYou blew it, Barack! JFK put his foe Lyndon Johnson as V-P and won the 1960 election. Your EGO wouldn't let you...

[rob3gd]

Go PUMAs! I wish i was there

[Isaksen]

Dear PUMA's please listen to Hillary. No way, No how, NO MCCAIN... Put your differences aside and make sure your country gets a democratic president. Love from Norway

[muffin1559]

We are listening to Hillary! She and Bill (Chelsea too) will never vote for Obama, all a bunch of shit that the DNC wanted her to say to help pay down her debt, nice try but I am a Hillary supporter 100%, that is voting very proudly for McCain!

[disintegratingeden]

HAHA!! Yes! I love the argument "I am a Hillary supporter 100%... for McCain!"

McCain, who has worked so hard to promote the opposite economic policy as Hillary.

McCain, who has vehemently denied the health care coverage Clinton has worked so hard to promote.

McCain, who has sentenced us to occupying a country for an undisclosed amount of time, which Hillary is fighting so hard to get us out of.

The list goes on and on. You are so fucking right! Hillary truly wants what McCain stands for!

[muffin1559]

HAHAHAHA YES YES, she wants the mother fucker that just fucked her out of getting the nomination to be president, elected, yes yes, she sure does, get real and go blow smoke up someone else's ass, not mine!

[disintegratingeden]

You know what? That's fucking primaries. He didn't fuck her out of getting the nom, he won.

Yes, she wants the mother fucker that disagrees with her on all of her major policy positions that she's worked so hard for her entire political life (or so she based her whole "35 years" argument on).

No, you're right. She wants the guy that will continue to tear apart all of the good that her husband left us with in this country. She definitely wants him, right?

[muffin1559]

No NObama was selected not elected. She don't want the mother fucker Obama! Her brother is even campaigning for McCain! So I am going to tell you again, she and her family will never vote for Obama, I gurentee it

[disintegratingeden]

Hmm...

Guess what? Obama was elected. Show me how he wasn't, I'll show you just as much evidence showing how he was. They signed up to play the same game, and Hillary lost at that game. Had the tables been turned, would you still make this argument, but for Obama?

This person you think she'll vote for has worked against her policies for years. How does that make any sense? You haven't addressed that at all. All you've suggested is that Hillary is a liar, and doesn't want what she says.

[micdagreat1]

I think you bring up a valid point.If the tables were turned would they be as adamant in their defense of Obama?Of course not.That's why PUMA"S argument is invalid.That's why it's a sad day in America when we stop voting for policies and start voting for people."To err is human,to forgive divine"-Alexander Pope

[disintegratingeden]

And, on a side note, please learn English. I don't know what gurentee means, nor do I really want to recognize "She don't want" as an actual attempt at a sentence.

[tontotonto]

i should send them sum cheesecake

[JACKOSTiNKERBELL]

I don't know whether to laugh or cry that there's a poster of Xena in the background with the other posters (I love Xena). I don't know, I just wasn't expecting it.

[JACKOSTiNKERBELL]

I thought this was a rumor (crazy Hillary fans) but they're serious :(

[lewisbell]

PUMA: a body of a middle aged white woman, the mind of a 5 year old with ADD

[deathsythe12]

I just saw the whole video .... "McCain is an enemy we already know" .... WTF?!?! Can people really be that stupid?? Hillary and Obama coincide with what they want for America, why vote for someone you know is going to act exactly like Bush?!?! Do you really want 4 more years???

[deathsythe12]

I can see why you'd be mad at Clinton loosing. But fact of the matter is she lost. America is a DEMOCRACY and even though you voted for your candidate of choice, so did the delegates and Super delegates. Guess what .... Obama won. The majority spoke, get over it. Why vote for McCain? He stands for the opposite of what Hillary and Obama stand for!! WHY??!! I still can't understand why you would vote for somebody that approves of what Bush has done?

[silus2000]

The last bitch is insane. Yea, lets pick an enemy we know...forget the fact that we're not electing a dictator or someone that has total power over America. What the hell do these women believe?? Oh thats right, they believe in one person and not any sort of ideology.

[silus2000]

Look at these dumbasses. Fake ass Democrats. I guess there are no principles behind these folks. Whining about what the DNC or Howard Dean. A joke.

[artvandelay3911]

Hell has no fury as a woman scorn. What a bunch of bitter idiots. Maybe we need to rethink the 19th amendment giving women the right to vote. I've been watching some of these videos of the PUMA people. What a bunch of idiots. Turn in your voter registration card and leave the voting to the adults. Not the whiny little brats who hold their breath when they don't get what they want. Do you think Obama supporters would vote McCain if Hillary won? No. Idiots.

[deathsythe12]

Exactly the point of this election. "Do you think Obama supporters would vote McCain if Hillary won?" The answer is .... they wouldve voted for Hillary. They would've voted for what the Democratic party stands for.

[JACKOSTiNKERBELL]

EXACTLY.

[combatvet7898]

Bunch of dried up OLD DYKES, the Messiah doesn't need your asses to win this election!! The BEST MAN won , get over it!! Now get in the kitchen and fix me some supper like a good woman should! ROFLMAO

[JACKOSTiNKERBELL]

The last sentence was foul. And I think Michelle Obama can honestly f*ck you up for saying some dumb sh*t like that.

[combatvet7898]

LOL we'll see what happens in november if we actually get there before martial law is declared. Things are going to change in America pretty soon and when the gloves come off, I hope you are heavily armed and have some combat experience. The NWO is just around the corner.

[jediwill1974]

I love this video. I really wanted Hillary. People call you spoiled and a bunch of brats, I call you patriots! Continue the good fight and let's elect John Mccain!

[904HipHop]

Man, this is so sad. These PUMAs votes aren't worth any more than mine or yours, but they act like spoiled babies that need pampering to get aboard...you know what, Fuk 'Em!

Dems Unified '08!

[Klackityklack]

Why do they hate Michelle Obama? What has she ever done to them? Besides being black.

[tcmiller]

They are all republicans acting like democrats.

[tismo70]

How can Obama possibly compete with a group that big warring against him? /s

[thickblkpa]

Support HIllary

VOTE OBAMA

MCCain is the enemy, Hillary does not want.

[modeleste]

what a pathetic bunch.

They are ending Hillary's career

And destroying the legacy of both Clintons

[teleutube]

should have said

"McCain is the devil that we know,

Obama is the devil that we dont know..."

[TooneyReed]

No, she should have said, "Where's the nearest psych ward."

[wisewomanmtl]

McCain is an enemy that we know? Interesting answer.