Man, this couldve better than the actuall MGS3 game if Kojima continued Solid Snake's story between 2 and 4, but thats my opinion. Looks great with a new but unused (or revamped soundtrack) though, i wouldve played it
I remember seeing this video of the game running on the MGS2 engine, now this may explain why i always thought the final version of MGS3 felt rushed/buggy at times, like, control problems, unstable framerate, stiff moments, stuff that didn't happen on previews MGS games, though cutscenes, story and soundtrack are fantastic,
Why did they change the engine and remake the game on a newer one? I'm not a big fan of the MGS2 engine, always looked quite plastic to me, but this one looked improved...
@dinizgames they made a new engine because the old engine wouldn't work in the jungle environment. it wasn't like MGS1/2 where the games were all inside and on flat surfaces for most of the time, you'd be moving over rocks, uneven terrain, climbing trees and tree stumps and stuff. the MGS2 engine wouldn't have been able to handle all of that.
Naked Pliskin... *gigglesnort* Kinda wish the real MGS3 was more "open" (ironic word choice since the area is packed with trees) like this. It seems less like there's just the one path to take here.
i actually wish they did a story with Solid Snake in the jungle. specially with the MGS2 engine too? shoot, i think that would've been sweet if they did a Top Secret Misson-esque side choice. hell, if it was a secret unlockable VR Alternative misson, i would be on it in a hurry.
MGS3 have a 5 time better graphics, texture, detailing than MGS2 and the remake MGS the twin snakesbut in " my opinion! " it's miss the 60 framerate that MGS2 had.
Yea they dropped the framerate from 60 to 30 when going from mgs2 to mgs3. Honestly I could only tell on a few occasions, and i definitely didn't mind considering how insanely good the graphics were in mgs3.
naw they just put Snake Pliskin (from MGS 2) in here as a stand in for Naked Snake. I think Hideo planned on Snake Eater being a prequel so they could wait for the PS3 to come out
@MaxiMachine I'm guessing MGS4 was originally going to be called MGS3 and that Snake Eater wasn't going to be a numeric entry into the series at all. But it probably would've sold like crap otherwise.
@zeromk5 i think MGS4 on the ps3 was the sequel to MGS2 the story of MGS3 hapen before MGS1 the one you play with in MGS3 is not solid snake that was big boss.
@fareedbakhit The chronological order is MGS 3, Portable Ops, Peace Walker, Metal Gear, Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake, Metal Gear Solid (PS1), MGS 2 and finally MGS 4. I'm not quite sure where Rising should be placed
@Oblius7Perkaiv MGS rising maybe betwean 2 & 4 even so i haven't play 4 yeat and i think rising story will going to be in japan the background of the teaser video is showing some japanese samurai arts.
"Prototype" encompasses a very wide range of progress; essentially, from the moment that any progress has been done up until the last version before the final, it's a prototype.
"Alpha" is a type of prototype, referring to an early and non-functional prototype; for instance, if you had a few models and textures and some code written but not enough to have the game work at all, that would be an alpha. This prototype appears to be very basic, but it certainly does have functionality, therefore it's past the alpha stage.
Since this is running on the MGS2 engine (IE, it lacks a proper engine of its own), likely for testing and demonstration purposes, this is what you would call a "tech demo". In a way, it's in-between alpha and beta.
@ Kuro, inalpha is a lower version of the game but the prototype would be used as both an early version and proof to the publisher (self published by konami) that the jobs getting done, and the ideas are great not just on paper. To see MGS2s, engine, models, weapons and only one big area of generic trees, I really can;t see it being more than a prototype. After all the alpha version of the game gets playtested, there isn;t anything to test in this version.
It is a prototype, yes, that's what I said; "alpha" is a stage in the life of a prototype before the game is actually playable. This is really barebones though since, as you said, the game appears to reuse everything from MGS2 safe for the area it takes place in. That's what a tech demo is, although clearly a very early one.
God, the music and atmosphere in this beta version alone is better than MGS3. Snake Eater should have had that creepy and mysterious vibe that MGS2 constantly gave off.
I kind of agree. MGS2 had a great musical style that fits the Metal Gear ambiance perfectly, but at the same time MGS3 had a twist on the MGS formula by putting you in a different type of setting. In a way, the game's environmental sounds probably fit better, but I just wish that the music was more present. Might just be me, but for the most part I don't remember noticing the music much at all.
yeah, alpha is supposed to be an earlier mode than beta, just see those movements, snake, guards, camo and weapons, all taken from MGS2 and that forest doesnt exist on full MGS3 but its very full detailed...
who here agrees that snakes model in mgs3 shod of been a re-graphiced and modeled pliskin, because in gameplay heseems too fat, i meen come on, he does look a bit fat in 3, it might be the clothes but seriously
Not true, MGS2 was at 60fps during gameplay, but 30fps is respectable considering the trees/foliage in MGS3. I have no problem with this and didnt really notice tbh
Yeah, you can tell Kojima completely re-did the environments to give you a lot more room to move around. In this version, as you can se, the environments were just wooded areas with asingle playable path to walk through. The final game obviously had playable areas, rather than just paths.
The only thing I hated about Snake Eater was that you had to go through at least two menus every time you wanted to change your camoflauge. That was before Octocamo.
I never knew this was out there. I've seen every MGS3 trailer before, but never came across this one. I would've definitely played this, even if it was a playable demo.
i am a really big fan of the mgs series. when i saw this video the first time many years ago i was complete blown away buy the visuals and the map. to bad the final game was about big boss and not about snake, and what happened after mgs2. because, what happened to arsenal gear??? drove right in to new york. but mgs rox!!" all mgs games ownes!!
this game was so hyped. They made it look like you could go anywhere within that jungle but when you actually played it it was so linear, there was so many invisible barriers.
DSFsonic, what haledos is trying to say is...no, you cannot play that which does not exist in a playable form, nor can you play something that has never been released to the public.
I remember this; it was one of the first videos of the gameplay... i really don't like this game to much, i prefer the 2nd one (yeah, with gayden... xD)
How snake eater should have been..
LANDONisFUCKINGweird 3 days ago
wow the m16 in this demo looks better than the one in the actual game!
wolfenstien9000 5 days ago
@SubChubi Metal Gear Solid 3: Pliskin Eater lol
solidvercetti 6 days ago
This fucking music bro, it's incredible. I didn't like 3's soundtrack so much.
Grahamx227 1 week ago
@Grahamx227 are you serious? MGS3 has one of my favorite soundtracks ever, period.
breakdown2218 1 week ago
Epic sound track.... its mgs2 meets mgs3
fallenfromx 1 month ago
was this ever published ?
SalamanderOfficial 2 months ago
Man, this couldve better than the actuall MGS3 game if Kojima continued Solid Snake's story between 2 and 4, but thats my opinion. Looks great with a new but unused (or revamped soundtrack) though, i wouldve played it
Pliskin47 3 months ago
Metal Gear Solid 3: Iroquois Pliskin
SubChubi 5 months ago
I remember seeing this video of the game running on the MGS2 engine, now this may explain why i always thought the final version of MGS3 felt rushed/buggy at times, like, control problems, unstable framerate, stiff moments, stuff that didn't happen on previews MGS games, though cutscenes, story and soundtrack are fantastic,
Why did they change the engine and remake the game on a newer one? I'm not a big fan of the MGS2 engine, always looked quite plastic to me, but this one looked improved...
dinizgames 7 months ago
@dinizgames they made a new engine because the old engine wouldn't work in the jungle environment. it wasn't like MGS1/2 where the games were all inside and on flat surfaces for most of the time, you'd be moving over rocks, uneven terrain, climbing trees and tree stumps and stuff. the MGS2 engine wouldn't have been able to handle all of that.
ASVHI 4 weeks ago
That Ending with the birds creeped me out.
ImpressiveJEFF 9 months ago
1:10 Kojima thought of COD Black Ops after all...
Pokefan634 10 months ago
they shoulda used this. made it look almost like a sequel to mgs 2 even.
SpartanForgeWorld300 11 months ago
Those few nags.... they're not GRU guys... they're Gurlukovich's soldiers.... LOL =P
In the demo, they moved the high tech from MGS2 to this 1.... lol =P
Well, but the full version is fine...... LOL... Fine?... AWESOME! lol ^^
paulosbruzzi 1 year ago
Naked Pliskin... *gigglesnort* Kinda wish the real MGS3 was more "open" (ironic word choice since the area is packed with trees) like this. It seems less like there's just the one path to take here.
RoyFan33 1 year ago
REBOOT MGS START WITH BIG BOSS BACK GROUND
araidrico 1 year ago
WHAT ABOUT RAIDEN???
i mean on METAL GEAR WIKI it says Raiden came close to being in MGS3.
SSCode09 1 year ago
@SSCode09 Raiden... "became"... Raikov.... Ivan Raidenovich Raikov, the GRU major..... LOL =P
Thats very freak... because he is the same face of Raiden =P
Maybe his grandpa ^^ lol
paulosbruzzi 1 year ago
@paulosbruzzi His patrynomic name (Raidenovich) is a direct reference to Raiden .
MatheusBond 9 months ago
@paulosbruzzi WOULD YOU CUT IT OUT WITH YOUR FUCKING FAKE LOLZ AND :P DICKHEAD?! And no, Raikov isn't Raiden.
MrPrototypz 7 months ago
They used snake ( pliskin ) from MGS 2 to test MGS 3 on the MGS 2 engine a little bit weird but nice!!!
Thestarwarsmovies 1 year ago
@Thestarwarsmovies actualy thats big boss as he appeared in mgs3's first mission.
wassuprory 1 year ago
@wassuprory Nope. Notice the headset? Big Boss doesn't have that in the first mission of MGS 3.
XeroSnake 1 year ago
@XeroSnake oh. I stand corrected lol
wassuprory 1 year ago
i actually wish they did a story with Solid Snake in the jungle. specially with the MGS2 engine too? shoot, i think that would've been sweet if they did a Top Secret Misson-esque side choice. hell, if it was a secret unlockable VR Alternative misson, i would be on it in a hurry.
Madis08 1 year ago
I only wished that the controls were as fluid as MGS2. MGS3 was a bit laggy :/
lepolohuevo 1 year ago
and he's with a m4a1!
Oricevreitu 1 year ago
WOW THIS IS THE JUNGLE THAT I FIRST THOUGHT MGS3 WOULD BE... With a little ligth effects and some balaclava dudes... perfect :D
Anyways MGS3 is my favorite one
Oblius7Perkaiv 1 year ago
i think this would have been better
MegaHazzer123 1 year ago
I'm glad they changed it to Naked Snake/Big Boss, because playing as Solid Snake in the jungle would really seem weird IMO.
Meryl719 1 year ago
this was the best game on ps2...
Shotcalm 1 year ago
Where did you get this?
Schalke234 1 year ago
@harriisnotinabox mgs3 dosent have shadows at all -_- just black cycles under character
andrkir 1 year ago
@harriisnotinabox yeahh... and remember the that great fire effects. Those were awesome too xDD.
MisterAlbertoPiano 2 years ago
@MisterAlbertoPiano
probably the best fire effects seen on the ps2... such a badass game
evans387 1 year ago
@evans387 xDD YEAH MAN.
MisterAlbertoPiano 1 year ago
Wherew can I get it ?
Gesreg 2 years ago
Well, funnily enough, Pliskin looks like solid snake in the original Metal Gear games...so this would just be odd if they kept it.
nicck 2 years ago 2
Man, Pliskin is the best, next to Twin Snakes Solid Snake.
Raidenski 2 years ago
Naked Pliskin
TotalSimpleton 2 years ago
lol! it's pliskin!
theivmattie 2 years ago
this reminds me of mg2 when snake follows the soldier with the green beret please mg2 remake HIDEO!!!!!!
jgm1889 2 years ago
Snake on Endor...
DragonD13 2 years ago 8
ohh, looks outstanding, I wish that they wouldn't change it :/
koneko1991 2 years ago
They shouldnt have change the pose of Snake holding a pistol , it looks cooler holding it with two hands IMO
Sh4dow54 2 years ago
Looks terrible.
Glad they changed it.
JohnKiller118 2 years ago 2
MGS3 main character is Naked Snake = Big Boss not Solid Snake. That's why i confused why Ocelot look younger while Snake is like during in his 30.
SymphonyOfDestruct99 2 years ago
You can play as Pliskin on MGS 2 but it has to be the Substance version. And it is only in VR Missions.
bleachfanforever01 2 years ago
MGS3 have a 5 time better graphics, texture, detailing than MGS2 and the remake MGS the twin snakesbut in " my opinion! " it's miss the 60 framerate that MGS2 had.
fareedbakhit 2 years ago
@fareedbakhit MGS3 in 60FPS would be the best
JisakuJ 2 years ago
yeah just think how fast and smoth the game looks like with all that graphics on one screen.
fareedbakhit 2 years ago
@fareedbakhit
Yea they dropped the framerate from 60 to 30 when going from mgs2 to mgs3. Honestly I could only tell on a few occasions, and i definitely didn't mind considering how insanely good the graphics were in mgs3.
evans387 1 year ago
@evans387 only a few parts in MGS3 run in 60 framerate as the rest it's a mix of 40 to 30 framerates.
fareedbakhit 1 year ago
I wonder if MGS3 was intended to be a sequel? I mean, right after Snake and Otacon go after Ocelot and the Metal Gear.
zeromk5 2 years ago
its a prequel u play as big boss
GrayFox45 2 years ago 2
I know. I have the game.
I'm talking about the content of this video, and what they originally had planned.
zeromk5 2 years ago 2
naw they just put Snake Pliskin (from MGS 2) in here as a stand in for Naked Snake. I think Hideo planned on Snake Eater being a prequel so they could wait for the PS3 to come out
SuperboyCasanova 2 years ago
@SuperboyCasanova Yeah if you put the Olive Drab camo on Big Boss he looks just Pliskin.
bleachfanforever01 2 years ago
@SuperboyCasanova No, Hideo Kojima planned on MGS3 being his last MGS game. Whether he planned on it being a prequel originally I do not know.
MaxiMachine 1 year ago
@MaxiMachine I'm guessing MGS4 was originally going to be called MGS3 and that Snake Eater wasn't going to be a numeric entry into the series at all. But it probably would've sold like crap otherwise.
strykah92 1 year ago
@zeromk5 i think MGS4 on the ps3 was the sequel to MGS2 the story of MGS3 hapen before MGS1 the one you play with in MGS3 is not solid snake that was big boss.
fareedbakhit 1 year ago
@fareedbakhit I already said I know -_- I have the game and clocked it several times. Please read my comments carefully.
zeromk5 1 year ago
@zeromk5 sorry i didn't notice that ^^;
fareedbakhit 1 year ago
@fareedbakhit The chronological order is MGS 3, Portable Ops, Peace Walker, Metal Gear, Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake, Metal Gear Solid (PS1), MGS 2 and finally MGS 4. I'm not quite sure where Rising should be placed
Oblius7Perkaiv 1 year ago
@Oblius7Perkaiv MGS rising maybe betwean 2 & 4 even so i haven't play 4 yeat and i think rising story will going to be in japan the background of the teaser video is showing some japanese samurai arts.
fareedbakhit 1 year ago
this is better than the original version i think.
GrandMasterEdge1111 2 years ago
Pliskin!
TheShoe1990 2 years ago 9
This is definately prototype, not even alpha.
AaronAMM 2 years ago
"Prototype" encompasses a very wide range of progress; essentially, from the moment that any progress has been done up until the last version before the final, it's a prototype.
KurosanNitebird 2 years ago
"Alpha" is a type of prototype, referring to an early and non-functional prototype; for instance, if you had a few models and textures and some code written but not enough to have the game work at all, that would be an alpha. This prototype appears to be very basic, but it certainly does have functionality, therefore it's past the alpha stage.
KurosanNitebird 2 years ago
Since this is running on the MGS2 engine (IE, it lacks a proper engine of its own), likely for testing and demonstration purposes, this is what you would call a "tech demo". In a way, it's in-between alpha and beta.
KurosanNitebird 2 years ago
@ Kuro, inalpha is a lower version of the game but the prototype would be used as both an early version and proof to the publisher (self published by konami) that the jobs getting done, and the ideas are great not just on paper. To see MGS2s, engine, models, weapons and only one big area of generic trees, I really can;t see it being more than a prototype. After all the alpha version of the game gets playtested, there isn;t anything to test in this version.
AaronAMM 2 years ago
It is a prototype, yes, that's what I said; "alpha" is a stage in the life of a prototype before the game is actually playable. This is really barebones though since, as you said, the game appears to reuse everything from MGS2 safe for the area it takes place in. That's what a tech demo is, although clearly a very early one.
KurosanNitebird 2 years ago
God, the music and atmosphere in this beta version alone is better than MGS3. Snake Eater should have had that creepy and mysterious vibe that MGS2 constantly gave off.
Volt35 2 years ago 2
I kind of agree. MGS2 had a great musical style that fits the Metal Gear ambiance perfectly, but at the same time MGS3 had a twist on the MGS formula by putting you in a different type of setting. In a way, the game's environmental sounds probably fit better, but I just wish that the music was more present. Might just be me, but for the most part I don't remember noticing the music much at all.
KurosanNitebird 2 years ago
Man I wish you could atleast download and play this.
SilentSharpshooterX1 2 years ago
Yeah, would be awesome if developers always made early versions of games downloadable.
xBK110x 2 years ago
oh yea this is just an updated version of the MGS2 engine, still really cool though i would of liked to of played this
Shogunlord87 2 years ago
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Why was this running on the MGS2 engine?
alwaysobsessed 2 years ago
They probably made environnement (levels) of MGS3 before work on another engine .
VillejeanRyder35 2 years ago
I think that is more Alpha than Beta...
ReactTeamSession 2 years ago 29
The game looks pretty complete, alpha is supposed to be an earlier mode than beta
TamashiiHiroka 2 years ago
yeah, alpha is supposed to be an earlier mode than beta, just see those movements, snake, guards, camo and weapons, all taken from MGS2 and that forest doesnt exist on full MGS3 but its very full detailed...
ReactTeamSession 2 years ago
who here agrees that snakes model in mgs3 shod of been a re-graphiced and modeled pliskin, because in gameplay heseems too fat, i meen come on, he does look a bit fat in 3, it might be the clothes but seriously
SoldierNtheonly1 2 years ago 3
It's because its a different snake.
Different person (even a partial clone) = different body.
kcdc 2 years ago 2
i love the end of this video <3
xXAtomicSnakeXx 2 years ago
This one also seems to be 60fps unlik ethe final built
tekkenzaibatsumishim 3 years ago
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mgs2 engine ran at 30fps
Reaperss 2 years ago
Not true, MGS2 was at 60fps during gameplay, but 30fps is respectable considering the trees/foliage in MGS3. I have no problem with this and didnt really notice tbh
DrewCameron 2 years ago 3
i think i wil buy this game noooooooooooo i forgot it removed
TWINSNAKES6 3 years ago
it is pliskin, with camo
xSNAKE1991x 3 years ago
They should've kept the classic woodland camo.
Danny953 3 years ago
kept classic woodland camo? it isnt existed at that time!
ReactTeamSession 3 years ago
While this looks great, I'm glad they kept it the way it is now.
BiGRiCeD 3 years ago
Yeah, you can tell Kojima completely re-did the environments to give you a lot more room to move around. In this version, as you can se, the environments were just wooded areas with asingle playable path to walk through. The final game obviously had playable areas, rather than just paths.
Adema1226 3 years ago
I disagree. While the game is very good, it does follow a very strict linear path, even in the final game.
KazuoKiriyama666 2 years ago 14
lol they gave us tht demo in ps mag it was wierd the soldiers would make metal klinky noises in the forest
ironsaviorguy99 3 years ago
it is pliskin
Beinem9494 3 years ago
lol they just used an edited pliskin model and gurlukovich soldiers for the beta but the final its pliskins (solid snakes) dad Naked Snake (big boss)
SOLIDSNAKEDQ 3 years ago
i know...
Beinem9494 3 years ago
Looks like Pliskin from mgs2 :P
jelle1110 3 years ago 4
The only thing I hated about Snake Eater was that you had to go through at least two menus every time you wanted to change your camoflauge. That was before Octocamo.
Starwind18020 3 years ago
he looks like when Solid/Old snake named pliskin in here but then they made him more beardy and such
PullusPardus 3 years ago
Cool!
DaddlerTheDalek 3 years ago
Music in this video is cool
Sinars 3 years ago 4
MGS3 THE BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Polverino93 3 years ago 3
No i think MS1 + MGS TTS+ MGS4
cpsuperbrain 3 years ago
I never knew this was out there. I've seen every MGS3 trailer before, but never came across this one. I would've definitely played this, even if it was a playable demo.
rpmi84 3 years ago
Most of the times these movies are made for internal viewing and are never released to the general public.
rpgplayer101 3 years ago
Where did this vid come from? Was there a making of that i never found out about or something?
Cooderospie 3 years ago
the final boss has an easy patern to figure out though but if you take to long planes come and bomb everything
linkBIGfan 3 years ago
Dispite being in a forest, it feels like SOL
MrInfinity8 4 years ago
This game is so fucking amazing. Bosses are hard though. =(
Madnam 4 years ago
mgs 3 fucking rocked it wasnt linear it fuckin rocked
grunger119 4 years ago
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0:55 he looks like that guy from mad tv
MISTERWONKA7 4 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
0:55 he looks like that guy from mad tv
MISTERWONKA7 4 years ago
i am a really big fan of the mgs series. when i saw this video the first time many years ago i was complete blown away buy the visuals and the map. to bad the final game was about big boss and not about snake, and what happened after mgs2. because, what happened to arsenal gear??? drove right in to new york. but mgs rox!!" all mgs games ownes!!
glitchTF 4 years ago 4
You will receive your answers in Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of The Patriots. :)
TeinCave 4 years ago 3
yh i know.. i'm a fanboy
glitchTF 4 years ago
it isnt called Beta version ,it is Prototype Version
is the build they use to show some ideas and get the support of the publisher
fangelico 4 years ago
this game was so hyped. They made it look like you could go anywhere within that jungle but when you actually played it it was so linear, there was so many invisible barriers.
lildodoScrap 4 years ago
es una lastima que la version final no se juege asi
Peluso5655 4 years ago
maybe a stupid question but whats BETA ??
baba1993 5 years ago
It basically means a test version and not the final product
Homestar1992 5 years ago
maybe a stupid question but whats BETA ??
baba1993 5 years ago
BETA is a test version that comes before the final release.
Its the term used by developers to say that the game is still in development.
and Alpha comes before BETA version
pedroatmc 4 years ago
too bad it looks cool
indexsonic 5 years ago
DSFsonic, what haledos is trying to say is...no, you cannot play that which does not exist in a playable form, nor can you play something that has never been released to the public.
Blazingluke 5 years ago
OH! Better idea: play the final product.
Blazingluke 5 years ago
DSFsonic, you're so retarded it hurts to even think about it...
haledos 5 years ago
I remember this; it was one of the first videos of the gameplay... i really don't like this game to much, i prefer the 2nd one (yeah, with gayden... xD)
Bigasscop 5 years ago
SOL> SE imo
iroquoisdudewierd 5 years ago
is there any way to play this if so plz tell me
DSFsonic 5 years ago