It is so sad they build these things. They kill birds and bats. When they provide power, they just put another power plant on standby, meaning the power plant still burns fuel but doesn't provide power. They put the power plants on standby because the power the provide fluctuates and it takes 2-3 days to restart a coal-fire power plant. Wind and solar wont work with our grid and current technology. Investments in solar and wind only increase everyone's electric bill.
@topomatt17967 You want to employ people? send them to China. You never complained when big business was sending manufacturing to china ... now you wake up crying yourself hoarse with "they took our jobs" BS!
god forbit we criticize big business! oh noes! because that would be bad-mouthing the free market.... and we're no commies (though we buy all our shit from a commie country now... but that's just a minor detail).. Yay capitalism!
The thing that sucks about these windmills in particular is that i have to look at them now. Its nice and all but a lot of people just feel like they are being taken advantage of by the rest of the world. What benefits will we see out out of this project? How much less will our electric bill be? Answers: none and not at all respectively. You try having 64 400ft. windmills in your backyard and see how you like it.
@YoLninYo You don't know the first thing about me and my beliefs. You also do not know a thing about the events over the years within a 10 mile radius of this particular project. Research things like the Molly Maguires, Coal and Iron Police, Centralia, Company housing. Listen to 16 Tons. Learn about why the people who have to look at the damn things might not want them in their backyard. You will still continue to make these comments because you won't understand but at least try.
these don't add too much beauty to the landscape, you don't want to have to look at these wherever you go. think about it. why not use solar power panels etc instead of polluting the view with these huge windmills. there should be designated place for windmills and not for everyone putting up these wherever they want to.
who'll pay for these? average people are getting poorer all around the globe, have you noticed?
One thing you need to realize is that solar panels are extremely expensive, if people are getting poorer and poorer how can they afford panels?
Obviously people just aren't throwing up turbines anywhere, there good for windy areas and are very efficent. If things dont change soon you may not have your "landscape" to admire.
Without sunlight, we might as well kiss life goodbye. The suns light should stay consistent, for hundreds if not thousands of years, and after the light fades, the heat, will still be felt. It real issue, is contamination. If we pollute the sky, we could block the sun out. If we pollute the water, we risk destroying the sea food chain. So living like a native on the land, almost makes sense. Except we would have to go backwards, and that aint gonna happen lol.
Where on Earth can I find a graph that shows that maximum potential output of alternative sources, along with the world's current and projected energy use.
Everyone's jumping on the social conscious/innovation bandwagon, but there is little hardcore planning it feels like. Wish Big Ideas did more broad educating.
I've heard recently that biofuel is having to be tb/c "oh yeah..." it takes arable food (rising food prices & starvation) and forest land (less C02 eaters, more gas) to grow it.
I cant believe that we humas have wasted all of this time without the use of the free energy from the sun !!!!
only now every body in the word is thinking the same solar energy is the answer !!
the barrel of petroleon has the reach over a $100 dollars for people to know that solar is part of the answer to the energy crisis !! and we call ourselves the more intelligent beings in the word!!!
even planets(especially ice) further away from the sun are starting to warm up-alot. its because the sun is wearing out and the rotation of earth around it is changing.
It's like 5 billions years until sun wears out!! you think we're gonna last as long as to need a substitute?? Anyway, by that time you should think we'd have THAT figured out, shouldn't we????
so who's keeping score......how do you know 5billion yrs wont be up in 10 yrs...no one can really keep score cause the sun outlived every1 and everything. i think its just gonna happen out of the blue. or when we find out it'll be too late.
That is realy a big problem ,Mang birds died when they sit and rest on the electric line .The electric iron may flow through their wings and body.I don't know if this machine affect the life of birds....
Are you stupid? Don't embarrass yourself by commenting ever again. You do not know how to spell and you do not know what the hell you are talking about.
@mrt0990 It's a myth, and for every goddamned bird they kill, they'll probably save the species because we won't fuck the planet in the arse with burning all the coal and gas.
It's ironic that defenders of hummers now find themselves crowing about the poor little birds! READ A BOOK for a change!
That's a reasonable question. My understanding is that the small high speed windmills that used to be popular were dangerous to birds because they spun at high speed. The much larger commercial windmills are much larger and slower. A bird could fly into a blade, but it would be more likely that a bird would fly smack into your closed house window.
The effect is random. Could be the same effect as if you didn't do anything. The big effect are all positive. But who knows, we don't have control over everything, but we still have to make change using the best judgement possible.
If one is to believe in the reality of the so-called "butterfly effect", in which a small perturbation initiates a change in weather patterns, what do you think the effect of a windfarm will be?...
These big fans don't store anything. No wind, no juice. It's the batteries themselves that are the problem. Just sell your extra electricity to the power grid and buy when there's no wind!
what? where is the logic in that? with coal you have to worry about the mining and extraction (leaving slurry in drinking water for surrounding areas and destroying local ecosystems), the effects of burning it (the air we have to breathe), AND the environmental cost of transferring the energy. with wind power, at least you don't have to strip mine and dump heavy metals and toxins in the water, and you don't have to rely on foreign oil.
Finally one of the mmgw true believers doing something instead of ENDLESSLY telling me I should do something. This guy I can work with. ( the rest of you need to put your money where your mouth is like this guy and stop bothering me! ...do I berate you to join my religion? ...and yes mmgw IS a religion. )
exactly! it is so annoying the way people gripe and complain about how we are causing climate change, yet they all live in conventional houses, drive gas burning cars and so on.
Now, while I think climate change is blown out of proportion, I make my own biodiesel ( no carbon emissions ) for my truck, and I also use wind, solar, and geo thermal systems on my home. I support clean, self sustaining living.
Haahaa - lives2live said " I make my own biodiesel no carbon emissions"
Apparently it doesn't require HS diploma to make biodiesel because he certainly doesn't have that much education. Bio-diesel not only emits carbon a plenty, it emits more carbon than a comparable gasoline engine. In addition, compared to petroleum based diesel, bio-diesel releases a higher amount of nitrous oxides which are 10 to 20 times more damaging to the air and contribute to global warming.
It's amazing that a man who seems so smart hasn't figured out that the Planet's number one problem is human over population!!!! He has three kids!!!!!!! We're dead now and if we don't stop populating our end will come alot quicker!!! Didn't MIT just do a study and now were down to twenty years of survival if we're lucky??? Stupid humans!!!!
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It is so sad they build these things. They kill birds and bats. When they provide power, they just put another power plant on standby, meaning the power plant still burns fuel but doesn't provide power. They put the power plants on standby because the power the provide fluctuates and it takes 2-3 days to restart a coal-fire power plant. Wind and solar wont work with our grid and current technology. Investments in solar and wind only increase everyone's electric bill.
WarOnWind 2 years ago
Hey Mr. Green, thanks for :
1) Ruining Ringtown's view of Shendo Mountain forever.
2) Bringing the biggest multi-million dollar project to Schuylkill County thats going to employ only about 10 people.
I think Mr. Green should build a house in the Ringtown Valley so he can have a front row seat of his creation.
topomatt17967 3 years ago
ECO TROLL!!!!!!!
Darkelf5677 2 years ago
I agree.
WarOnWind 2 years ago
@topomatt17967 You want to employ people? send them to China. You never complained when big business was sending manufacturing to china ... now you wake up crying yourself hoarse with "they took our jobs" BS!
god forbit we criticize big business! oh noes! because that would be bad-mouthing the free market.... and we're no commies (though we buy all our shit from a commie country now... but that's just a minor detail).. Yay capitalism!
YoLninYo 1 year ago
The thing that sucks about these windmills in particular is that i have to look at them now. Its nice and all but a lot of people just feel like they are being taken advantage of by the rest of the world. What benefits will we see out out of this project? How much less will our electric bill be? Answers: none and not at all respectively. You try having 64 400ft. windmills in your backyard and see how you like it.
Blitz350 3 years ago 3
everyone has to do their part...maybe your covered now!!! Perhaps your due some social carbon credits...go buy a big SUV now." haha
xpez 2 years ago
@Blitz350 and that is so much better than the human race and millions of species dying off within the next few hundred years...
just as long as your delicate fucking constitution isn't perturbed with the sight of windmills..
goddamned christian rightwing TITS!
YoLninYo 1 year ago
@YoLninYo You don't know the first thing about me and my beliefs. You also do not know a thing about the events over the years within a 10 mile radius of this particular project. Research things like the Molly Maguires, Coal and Iron Police, Centralia, Company housing. Listen to 16 Tons. Learn about why the people who have to look at the damn things might not want them in their backyard. You will still continue to make these comments because you won't understand but at least try.
Blitz350 1 year ago
I want one for the farm so bad.
Morganmwa 3 years ago
LET THE SUN SET,AND LET THE PARTY BEGIN
nosupecualponerme 3 years ago
these don't add too much beauty to the landscape, you don't want to have to look at these wherever you go. think about it. why not use solar power panels etc instead of polluting the view with these huge windmills. there should be designated place for windmills and not for everyone putting up these wherever they want to.
who'll pay for these? average people are getting poorer all around the globe, have you noticed?
czytamksiazki 3 years ago
One thing you need to realize is that solar panels are extremely expensive, if people are getting poorer and poorer how can they afford panels?
Obviously people just aren't throwing up turbines anywhere, there good for windy areas and are very efficent. If things dont change soon you may not have your "landscape" to admire.
misssunni 3 years ago
Without sunlight, we might as well kiss life goodbye. The suns light should stay consistent, for hundreds if not thousands of years, and after the light fades, the heat, will still be felt. It real issue, is contamination. If we pollute the sky, we could block the sun out. If we pollute the water, we risk destroying the sea food chain. So living like a native on the land, almost makes sense. Except we would have to go backwards, and that aint gonna happen lol.
aboozed 3 years ago
come see my videos even though they r really gay
SBJ21714 3 years ago
dude they have the same last name as me, green
englishman2022 3 years ago
Wow, they put it all on the line just like they do in MATILDA IN THE HALLS
frecklez101 3 years ago
Where on Earth can I find a graph that shows that maximum potential output of alternative sources, along with the world's current and projected energy use.
Everyone's jumping on the social conscious/innovation bandwagon, but there is little hardcore planning it feels like. Wish Big Ideas did more broad educating.
I've heard recently that biofuel is having to be tb/c "oh yeah..." it takes arable food (rising food prices & starvation) and forest land (less C02 eaters, more gas) to grow it.
crock703 3 years ago
I cant believe that we humas have wasted all of this time without the use of the free energy from the sun !!!!
only now every body in the word is thinking the same solar energy is the answer !!
the barrel of petroleon has the reach over a $100 dollars for people to know that solar is part of the answer to the energy crisis !! and we call ourselves the more intelligent beings in the word!!!
6onquistador07 3 years ago
global warming is not man made
virucides 3 years ago
anybody that disagrees is an ignorant fool.
even planets(especially ice) further away from the sun are starting to warm up-alot. its because the sun is wearing out and the rotation of earth around it is changing.
losermcbum 3 years ago
the sun wearing out thats the first time i ever heard that....so the sun has a life expectancy?..whats gonna be the substitute?
jayrperiod 3 years ago
It's like 5 billions years until sun wears out!! you think we're gonna last as long as to need a substitute?? Anyway, by that time you should think we'd have THAT figured out, shouldn't we????
aelijovich 3 years ago
so who's keeping score......how do you know 5billion yrs wont be up in 10 yrs...no one can really keep score cause the sun outlived every1 and everything. i think its just gonna happen out of the blue. or when we find out it'll be too late.
jayrperiod 3 years ago
Animal slother
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hakacumakac 3 years ago
I'm glad that you did that :)
Mewcow5 3 years ago
That is realy a big problem ,Mang birds died when they sit and rest on the electric line .The electric iron may flow through their wings and body.I don't know if this machine affect the life of birds....
ruifei2003 3 years ago
Are you stupid? Don't embarrass yourself by commenting ever again. You do not know how to spell and you do not know what the hell you are talking about.
deuce1349 3 years ago
Are you stupid? you do not know how to speak.What the hell are you talking about?
ruifei2003 3 years ago
I realy know that kind of things.
ruifei2003 3 years ago
LOFL
rcpmac 3 years ago
How many birds crash into these blades? Solar power is the way to go.
loveflowers39 3 years ago
fuck the birds
mrt0990 3 years ago 6
@mrt0990 It's a myth, and for every goddamned bird they kill, they'll probably save the species because we won't fuck the planet in the arse with burning all the coal and gas.
It's ironic that defenders of hummers now find themselves crowing about the poor little birds! READ A BOOK for a change!
YoLninYo 1 year ago
environmentalist hippy, you make me sick, global warming is bs
ponymanguy 3 years ago
That's a reasonable question. My understanding is that the small high speed windmills that used to be popular were dangerous to birds because they spun at high speed. The much larger commercial windmills are much larger and slower. A bird could fly into a blade, but it would be more likely that a bird would fly smack into your closed house window.
rcpmac 3 years ago
The effect is random. Could be the same effect as if you didn't do anything. The big effect are all positive. But who knows, we don't have control over everything, but we still have to make change using the best judgement possible.
Jer4Obama 3 years ago
If one is to believe in the reality of the so-called "butterfly effect", in which a small perturbation initiates a change in weather patterns, what do you think the effect of a windfarm will be?...
klatuveradanikto 3 years ago
I am sure wind farms have to create reams of EIS (environmental impact statements). Look one up somewhere and report back.
rcpmac 3 years ago
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aeronetza 3 years ago
The creation of the batteries causes way more damage to the environment then burning coal. Wind is a renewable yes but not environmentally friendly.
NDGTP 3 years ago
These big fans don't store anything. No wind, no juice. It's the batteries themselves that are the problem. Just sell your extra electricity to the power grid and buy when there's no wind!
HighestRank 3 years ago 2
what? where is the logic in that? with coal you have to worry about the mining and extraction (leaving slurry in drinking water for surrounding areas and destroying local ecosystems), the effects of burning it (the air we have to breathe), AND the environmental cost of transferring the energy. with wind power, at least you don't have to strip mine and dump heavy metals and toxins in the water, and you don't have to rely on foreign oil.
Romperjet 3 years ago
Finally one of the mmgw true believers doing something instead of ENDLESSLY telling me I should do something. This guy I can work with. ( the rest of you need to put your money where your mouth is like this guy and stop bothering me! ...do I berate you to join my religion? ...and yes mmgw IS a religion. )
phxfreddy 3 years ago 3
exactly! it is so annoying the way people gripe and complain about how we are causing climate change, yet they all live in conventional houses, drive gas burning cars and so on.
Now, while I think climate change is blown out of proportion, I make my own biodiesel ( no carbon emissions ) for my truck, and I also use wind, solar, and geo thermal systems on my home. I support clean, self sustaining living.
btw what is mmgw?
lives2live 3 years ago
Haahaa - lives2live said " I make my own biodiesel no carbon emissions"
Apparently it doesn't require HS diploma to make biodiesel because he certainly doesn't have that much education. Bio-diesel not only emits carbon a plenty, it emits more carbon than a comparable gasoline engine. In addition, compared to petroleum based diesel, bio-diesel releases a higher amount of nitrous oxides which are 10 to 20 times more damaging to the air and contribute to global warming.
Don't smoke near your tank
rcpmac 3 years ago
your absolutely correct!! I am such an idiot. I cant believe I've been so blinded to the truth till now. Thank you!
lives2live 3 years ago
smart..
Global Warming
Oil
Pollution
Wastes
you name it.. Ppl gotta start acting soon
or mankind will regret..
estapos 3 years ago
i will be dead by the time mankind regrets it.
mankind is the cruelest species alive
ponymanguy 3 years ago
You've got a point.
fmonk 3 years ago
It's amazing that a man who seems so smart hasn't figured out that the Planet's number one problem is human over population!!!! He has three kids!!!!!!! We're dead now and if we don't stop populating our end will come alot quicker!!! Didn't MIT just do a study and now were down to twenty years of survival if we're lucky??? Stupid humans!!!!
proffmongo 3 years ago