Virgil Hill is the best homosexual boxer since Emile Griffith. Most gay fighters stay in the closet for obvious reasons, so I don't blame Hill for not coming out.
Did Kinchen every beat a good fighter? I guess you could say he beat Hearn's and was robbed but he lost every big fight he was in. Barkley, Roldan and Shuler all beat him.
@shire2005 You cannot really say he beat Hearns when he didn't. Heanrs fought his heart out and won a decision. Kinchen thought because he hurt Hearns in round 4 and had a 3 point round, he could not be busy like Hearns was. I don't know how anyone can think Hearns lost that fight. Knockdowns are great, but they do not make a win if there are 8 rounds remaining and there are no more knockdowns.
I have the Hearns - Kinchen fight. I'll work on posting it.
I know first hand that even Hagler wouldn't fight Kinchen. Sugar Ray Leonard told Kinchen the reason why he couldn't get a big shot. I give credit to Hearns, he had the balls. But then Hearns accused Kinchen of Steroid use.
virgil hill is a chippewa native from belcourt. My step-dad used to train with him. I was taught how to box from my step-dad and im undefeated at 22-0 not counting squabbin outside of the ring at the rez parties.
One more thing. Kinchen lost to Shuler, Roldan and Hill 3 guys Hearns beat. Hearns was a lot better than Kinchen. Tommy was better than Virgil. but in that they were more evenly matched since Virgil is a legend.
Thomas Hearns vs. James Kinchen was not as close as you guys think. Hearns was hurt in the fight a few times, but he dominated the rounds. Hearns was faster and more experienced than Kinchen and fought when he had to. Kinchen thought he had it in the bag with Hearns because he knocked down Hearns. Then Hearns beat Virgil Hill. So, Hearns beat both these guys. That is fact and in the record books. Tommy went 12 rounds with both and won two decisions.
Swayze one, all it takes is a knockout to win a fight. Hill knocked out Kinchen with his signature punch the counter left hook. And you say Kinchen smoked the legend Tommy Hearns, not really. Hearns won that fight and dominated with speed.. And this same counter left which hit Kinchen in round one, did not come close to Hearns in 12 rounds with Hill and Tommy won. There is no doubt who the best fighter of the 3 was. And that was Thomas Hearns. Next Virgil Hill and the last James Kinchen
Hill got lucky. This fight was stopped so close to the end of the round. Watch Kinchen's skills before the lucky shot by Hill. The decision on Kinchen's fight against Hearns was political. Kinchen smoked Hearns.
You're kidding, right? Hill didn't get lucky, he demolished the guy. Kinchen fell out of the ring, rolled back in, hung on a rope until he could muster the strength to get back up and was barely coherent at 9.9 seconds.
No, I'm not kidding. You make it sound like Hill owned Kinchen that whole round. Hell, Hill barely got a punch in until the end of the fight witht that lucky shot. Kinchen's left hooks to Hill's chest pushed Hill across the ring serveral times. I'm not saying Hill didn't win, I'm saying he got lucky. Google it. Every analyst who's even seen the fight said the same thing "Hill got lucky". Same reason why the comentator's were shocked.
@allout1034 Hill has no black blood in him whatsoever. I remember reading an article in either Ring or KO magazine and he said so himself. He is part Native American and part white.
Kinchen lost to Hearns, but it was HIGHLY disupted. A lot folks thought "The Heat" did enough to win that one. Of course, this fight represents the extinguishing of the the fire that was "The Heat."
Freddy Roach, trainer of champions
davestheman4janice 2 months ago
Holy smoke Kinchen Blood right there :P
skinchen 2 months ago
i ment kenchin ihn a bus stop : )....
like an hour aqo no lie...
12RECOGNIZE12 7 months ago
A young Freddie Roach at 1:59-2:25.
jamdowner 10 months ago
j'ai toujours aimé ce champion trés racé dans sa boxe,c un gaucher qui boxait en droitier.respect
produfoot94 1 year ago
Hill was awful.
tlig 1 year ago
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sublimeolea 1 year ago
Virgil Hill is the best homosexual boxer since Emile Griffith. Most gay fighters stay in the closet for obvious reasons, so I don't blame Hill for not coming out.
GohModley 1 year ago
@GohModley You sound like a hater my guy
jsimms601 1 year ago
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@jsimms601 Why? You think homosexuals can't be boxers?
GohModley 1 year ago
@jsimms601 You seem biased against homosexuals
GohModley 1 year ago
Did Kinchen every beat a good fighter? I guess you could say he beat Hearn's and was robbed but he lost every big fight he was in. Barkley, Roldan and Shuler all beat him.
shire2005 1 year ago
@shire2005 You cannot really say he beat Hearns when he didn't. Heanrs fought his heart out and won a decision. Kinchen thought because he hurt Hearns in round 4 and had a 3 point round, he could not be busy like Hearns was. I don't know how anyone can think Hearns lost that fight. Knockdowns are great, but they do not make a win if there are 8 rounds remaining and there are no more knockdowns.
Boxing1984California 10 months ago
wow!! beautiful execution. thats nothing but experience
quick5greatin08 2 years ago
Yah, you don't want to go back to those days. Boxing was so corrupt back then..not in the ring so much as who would fight whom.
Virgil HIll never fought Dennis Andries or Charles williams--the other champs at the time. Promoters couldn't agree.
It's like this crap with Fedor and the UFC. Him not signing.
See you fedor!
roddiero 2 years ago
really appreciate the older fights being posted...thanks for uploading, redsoxwinagain.
ameliabedelia99 2 years ago
i know virgil hill
EA2153 2 years ago
I take lessons from virgil
jackcustow 3 years ago
Wow, youre lucky!:)
Jorsalfar 2 years ago
If anyone has Kinchen vs. Hearns, I'd love to see it.
pnutbutrncrackers 3 years ago 4
I have the Hearns - Kinchen fight. I'll work on posting it.
I know first hand that even Hagler wouldn't fight Kinchen. Sugar Ray Leonard told Kinchen the reason why he couldn't get a big shot. I give credit to Hearns, he had the balls. But then Hearns accused Kinchen of Steroid use.
SwayzeOne 2 years ago
Cool, SwayzeOne, I'll look for that (Hearns-Kinchen). What did SRL say was the reason that Kinched didn't get a title shot?
pnutbutrncrackers 2 years ago
that would be awesome--i have been waiting so long to se the hearns kinchen fights--thnx
mmtube08 2 years ago
@pnutbutrncrackers
someone posted the hearns vs. kinchen fight.
SwayzeOne 1 year ago
@SwayzeOne Very nice of you to let me know , Swayze. Thank you!
pnutbutrncrackers 1 year ago
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Jorsalfar 3 years ago
virgil hill is a chippewa native from belcourt. My step-dad used to train with him. I was taught how to box from my step-dad and im undefeated at 22-0 not counting squabbin outside of the ring at the rez parties.
SpiritLakeSioux1 3 years ago
He's also french-canadian,norwegian,german and a couple other things. I read it on his website.;) Nice mix.
Jorsalfar 2 years ago
Does anybody have any video of the Hill VS. Emebe fight in 1988?
bismanpokerclub 3 years ago
One more thing. Kinchen lost to Shuler, Roldan and Hill 3 guys Hearns beat. Hearns was a lot better than Kinchen. Tommy was better than Virgil. but in that they were more evenly matched since Virgil is a legend.
FastBoxer1984 3 years ago 2
Thomas Hearns vs. James Kinchen was not as close as you guys think. Hearns was hurt in the fight a few times, but he dominated the rounds. Hearns was faster and more experienced than Kinchen and fought when he had to. Kinchen thought he had it in the bag with Hearns because he knocked down Hearns. Then Hearns beat Virgil Hill. So, Hearns beat both these guys. That is fact and in the record books. Tommy went 12 rounds with both and won two decisions.
FastBoxer1984 3 years ago
Swayze one, all it takes is a knockout to win a fight. Hill knocked out Kinchen with his signature punch the counter left hook. And you say Kinchen smoked the legend Tommy Hearns, not really. Hearns won that fight and dominated with speed.. And this same counter left which hit Kinchen in round one, did not come close to Hearns in 12 rounds with Hill and Tommy won. There is no doubt who the best fighter of the 3 was. And that was Thomas Hearns. Next Virgil Hill and the last James Kinchen
FastBoxer1984 3 years ago
is hill a south paw
pungadoo 3 years ago
Nope
Jorsalfar 3 years ago
he fights like he has no right hand
pungadoo 3 years ago
Hill was french and indian
fkudf 3 years ago
Hill got lucky. This fight was stopped so close to the end of the round. Watch Kinchen's skills before the lucky shot by Hill. The decision on Kinchen's fight against Hearns was political. Kinchen smoked Hearns.
SwayzeOne 3 years ago
You're kidding, right? Hill didn't get lucky, he demolished the guy. Kinchen fell out of the ring, rolled back in, hung on a rope until he could muster the strength to get back up and was barely coherent at 9.9 seconds.
asiansensation201 3 years ago 4
No, I'm not kidding. You make it sound like Hill owned Kinchen that whole round. Hell, Hill barely got a punch in until the end of the fight witht that lucky shot. Kinchen's left hooks to Hill's chest pushed Hill across the ring serveral times. I'm not saying Hill didn't win, I'm saying he got lucky. Google it. Every analyst who's even seen the fight said the same thing "Hill got lucky". Same reason why the comentator's were shocked.
SwayzeOne 3 years ago
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Jorsalfar 2 years ago
Fuck the so.-called analysts! That was skill, not luck!
Jorsalfar 2 years ago
i believe he's mixed with black and indian..
allout1034 3 years ago
@allout1034 Hill has no black blood in him whatsoever. I remember reading an article in either Ring or KO magazine and he said so himself. He is part Native American and part white.
jamdowner 10 months ago
is hill indian
pungadoo 3 years ago
i know kinchen personnelly
marksoto73 4 years ago
That was a slow count.
86pimp3 4 years ago
OMG! i no virgil hill!!! hes always at my school, because his daughter goes to my school (and his son). hes GOOD!!
iversonfreak2o 4 years ago
Was there live that night back in Bismarck - will never forget it.
UltimatePeteMaravich 4 years ago
dam that was a great ass whoopping
kingchrisatl226 4 years ago 2
Kinchen lost to Hearns, but it was HIGHLY disupted. A lot folks thought "The Heat" did enough to win that one. Of course, this fight represents the extinguishing of the the fire that was "The Heat."
Odawg96 4 years ago
wasnt there a johnny the heat verderosa?i believe so
clawfish1 4 years ago
Yes. He defeated Sean O'Grady.
PYOTERTHEGREAT 3 years ago