Wagner Siegfried Idyll (1/2); Solti

[DutchPetriot]

Could we have an good argument about the relationship between Wagner and Nietzsche to fill up my time? Everyone supporting Wagner raise your hand, now everyone supporting Nietzsche raise your hand, very well, let the battle of the trolls begin !

[mintoo2cool]

probably the greatest gift a musician can give to his wife. Immortalizing his love for her in this lovely piece.

wahrscheinlich das größte geschenk, ein musiker kann seine frau zu geben. Immortalisierung seine liebe zu ihr in diesem schönen stück.

[bigmanpigman]

I'm here just for CYE. Later haters

[norastorgarlensiu]

Bizi-biziki pullita ahairea, Wagnerren bertze hainbat bezin, egi-egia erran.

[paulostroff99]

Lovely.TY mahlerite for posting this gem.

[mahlerite]

@paulostroff99

You're welcome,paulo!

[jakethesnake10000]

this sounds downright fast after listening to Gould's interpretation so often

[hotfingersandwich]

Damn, she had a beak on her, didn't she? 

[Slugg329]

Is this "Hello Dolly"?

[windstorm1000]

THIS IS COSIMA, FRANZ LISZT'S DAUGHTER--HOW' S THAT FOR KEEPING GENIUS ALL IN THE FAMILY? THOUGH i MUST ADMIT THAT LISZT PROBABLY DID NOT RELISH BEING POSSIBLY CALLED 'PAPA' BY A MAN ONLY 2 YEARS YOUNGER THAN HIM. WITH COSIMA, WAGNER FINALLY FOUND PEACE AND A WILLING HELP MATE. SHE ADORED HIM--AND SHE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR PROVIDING HIM THE PEACE AND QUIET TO FINISH THE RING AND PARSIFAL.

[Gargantupimp]

@windstorm1000 YOU DONT SAY?

[windstorm1000]

see he could write piano!! a tender musical love letter to his wife anybody else do the same?? So be quiet!! ALL HAIL RICHARD WAGNER--WORLD' GREATEST COMPOSER!! ALL HAIL!!

[slayerrules114]

@windstorm1000 What piano? o.0 There isn't any piano written in this piece.

[windstorm1000]

@windstorm1000 'Piano' is also a musical term for 'softly'.

[mrmostarr]

THUMBS UP IF YOU WONDER WHERE IS JUDAISM AND IF YOU END UP HERE CAUSE YOU ARE A CURB YOUR ENTHUSIASM FAN!

[RockBottomRiser21]

JUDAISM WHERE ARE YOU???

[mrmostarr]

@RockBottomRiser21 curb fan!!! haha

[garfreed]

The original power couple!  Richard and Cosima.

[mahlerite]

@garfreed

I forget if Hollywood dubbed them Richima or Cosichard.

[Urbanheckler]

The divine did touch wagner mind and soul , god blessed this racists bastard with greatness and talent but without the wisdom of understanding that all mankind are equal brothers . i dislike the man and adore his talent and works , his music is truly divine - and forever it shall remain so."

[skinwaIker1731182194]

I agree, I found it very controversial to love his music, then again Theodore Herzl was a big fan. Glad to see him and I have the same taste.

[simariato]

Thanx a lot for posting dude, Wagner is incredible, we all know that.

[kinsmobman]

Hehehe Nietzsche tried to play this and he sucked ass according to Wagner

[mahlerite]

@kinsmobman

That's interesting. I did know that Wagner tended to belittle Nietzsche's musical abilities in general, though. In their relationship, it's clear that Wagner was the mentor and Nietzsche was the disciple.

[kinsmobman]

@mahlerite we it wasn't really belittling, it was more of a funny gesture. Apparently when Nietzsche attempted this Cosima listened attentively it was said that Wagner had to walk out of the room to stifle the laughter; so it probably was a light hearted moment anyway

[raticida123456]

@mahlerite nietzche was a spoiled and disturbed child... wagner is like an enlightened person

[firestartertwistedfi]

@kinsmobman What did Nietzche play?

[mahlerite]

@firestartertwistedfi

He wrote at least a couple dozen piano compositions. You can listen to samples of them at Amazon.

[DutchPetriot]

@firestartertwistedfi When Nietzsche was 19 he fell in love with Wagners music. It would dominate the first half of his life. In the second half he despised Wagner and his music because of the christian and Nationalist influences and Wagners anti semitism.

[Wranger243]

@DutchPetriot Actually I think he disapproved of Wagner's choosing to portray Germanic blood-myths rather than enlightenment themes.

[MrGuillenreyes]

TOCADO MAGISTRALMENTE, ES BELISSIMO Y DOLCE

[timmytimmyo]

Excuse me are you Jewish??? What you wanna see my penis???

[LordMgls]

9:58 Tristan und Isolde remains :-)

Expresses his own love.

Very romantic :-P

[MUSICALX57]

belíssimo.

[SurreyViolinHero]

This recording is a bit fast fro my liking but still very well played. This is one of my favourite pieces, I am glad I go to perform it 3 times.

[RodrigoGonzalez1989]

Let's Curb Our Enthusiasm here... :D

[garfreed]

One of my favorite pieces of music!

[McGravity1]

He is my favourite orchestral composer - he makes all the others sound limited and dull.

[msiu]

I like this even better than the usual full orchestra version. Having the theme carried by the gorgeous violin solo (the concertmaster of VPO I guess?) instead of the whole first violin section for example just adds another degree of heart melting intimacy

[alkhatib9]

What a beautiful composition.

[Katicooooo]

Cool Birthday present...A musical piece for the ages..Today, a wife would be "Lucky" to get a $25,00 gift certificate for  "Best Buys" ...

[BGH122]

@Katicooooo But when one looks as terrifying and heartlessly soulless-eyed as Wagner one has to be awfully flashy.

[evgenys13]

Oboist is not really impressive, sounds like a duck:)))

[iGotSpaceLikeNASA]

thas just the instrument.

[bmwguymi]

This is one of my favorite pieces of music ever, giving us an insight to the beautiful soul of a man who was, on the surface, one of the worst human beings of his day and age. Let's not over-romanticize his life. Aside from his notoriously intense bigotry, this was a man who stole his best friends wife after fathering three children with her and exiling him to the wing of his "consecrated" Treibschen during the summers whilst he caroused with his wife. A beautiful piece and story, nonetheless.

[ferrerpla]

Esta pieza es una maravilla, muchas gracias por colgarla.

[naitomeamogu]

very sweet indeed:D

[anselgoya]

magnifica.

[championofcathay]

where are you,  Judaism?

[snoopyflick]

Wow, nobody seems to have gotten the joke, for Curb your enthusiasm.

[Drucef]

No use man. Too many trolls on Youtube. Hard to tell the difference.

[utoobshiznet]

Post man, post man, this guy sleeps with the wife of a man in a wheel chair!

[SkulliansTorontoPunx]

HAHAHAHAHAH BEST EPISODE OF CURB EVER

[balchoth]

deffinately xD

[4c00h]

haha watchin that ep now, im guessing its what brought you here also =]

[beauadms]

Your a lousy Jew Larry David!

[car2052]

Is that a Wagner tuba or a French horn at 3:39?

[mahlerite]

Hey there.

I'm pretty sure it's a French horn, as the score calls for two of them in E. In spite of possible instrumental substitutions for particular performances, I don't think Wagner asked for the Wagner tuba outside of his Ring cycle.

[cornonatural]

Horns in E, there are no Wagner tuben in this piece.

[Nixonfan2011]

@car2052 its a French Horn

[raticida123456]

@car2052 the score marks french horn

[erstehorniste]

@raticida123456 the score marks "horn" - you can skip the french part. LOL. The actual name for the instrument is just plain Horn. In French it is Cor. In Italian, Corno.

[anetchi]

ahh mm yea!!! I really like this.. I haven't listened to much classical stuff. I dig it =)

[catgenocide]

Is this really fast or is the other recording I've heard really slow?

[herblich1]

@ catgenocide: I think this is a pretty normal tempo. I've heard Weingartner, Furtwängler and De Waart do it at approx. the same tempo!

[Razzy1322]

Wow. Thank you so much for posting this. I am in love with this piece and Solti may be my favorite conductor of Wagner. Certainly his Tannhauser is the greatest, in my opinion.

[SurreyViolinHero]

This is amazing. I adore thi spiece. I have find memories of performing it in 2 seperate concerts.

[derw1891]

Heard this at the end of a Curb Your Enthusiasm episode some time back; it's a wonderfully inspired, warm, accessible piece of music. Thanks for uploading (and not least for uploading a good quality recording, Solti no less!)

[mahlerite]

I want to check that show out someday, the full episodes, as I've heard numerous times that they are exceptionally funny and clever, and I do not doubt it, seeing as it is one of Larry David's creations, him being one of the most valuable minds behind my favorite sitcom: Seinfeld.

I will certainly upload more Wagner soon, perhaps all of Tristan and Isolde, so stay tuned if you're an admirer of his compositions in general.

[Sinfoniette]

Whoa, posting the complete Tristan? Which rendition do you have? I'm guessing you have the Bohm, which is the greatest, in my opinion.

[RabidCh]

Haven't heard Furtwangler have you?

(what you get when I can see your comments on the left side of your channel)

[Sinfoniette]

I only heard Furtwangler in the non-operatic repertoire. Is it good?

[RabidCh]

Is it good? Check the Liebestod on YouTube, and if you aren't hooked, well... I have nothing else to say.

[RabidCh]

Should give credit to Flagstad too.

[Sinfoniette]

Rabid have you heard Rodzinski's Liebestod?

[RabidCh]

No, I don't have much interest in Opera actually.

[mahlerite]

Likewise for Furtwangler, but I've heard a lot of fantastic Klemperer, such as Beethoven's Missa Solemnis (the composer's self-proclaimed greatest achievement), and Mahler's Das Lied von der Erde (which becomes very depressing, and Mahler was quite aware of this in the work itself, stating that it might make people want to kill themselves).

[mahlerite]

Mingyu:

Yes, it is Bohm at the Bayreuth Festspielhaus in 1966, a highly regarded DG recording, and the sound quality is absolutely pristine. Each act was recorded independently of the others so that the lead singers would be fresh throughout the opera. I still plan on uploading the complete, awe-inspiring performance sometime.

[Sinfoniette]

Yes. I like this comparatively light piece a bit better than the Valkyries at times.

About Karajan:

...Oops. Sorry. I was talking about his Strauss... but anyway, he did record the Siegfried Idyll and the Ring cycle. I haven't got any ring cycles, so I can't say much. However, his Siegfried Idyll is great, also (which is paired with a Strauss piece, which I always confuse with another Karajan-Strauss, which is probably the basis for my confusion).

[Sinfoniette]

Wonderful. (Although frankly they look like a pair of Ebezener Scrooges on the picture) Its amazing how one could write a piece for a wife. :) Maybe we can say thanks to Liszt a little. And again, Solti's Wagner is one of the best.

Have you heard the Karajan rendition?

[mahlerite]

Edit: Wagner almost always looked serious in photographs, but German genius has a reputation for solemnity. I think that endearing music like this would sweep most sensible women off their feet, provided it was dedicated to them, and to me, this composition is a welcome change of mood from the Wagner I am accustomed to, which include mostly weighty pieces written for symphony orchestras. I've yet to hear Karajan's Wagner; rather, I have solely listed to Böhm, Toscanini, and Solti so far.

[iambananananananana]

I highly recommend trying out Furtwangler's Wagner. EMI has Furtwangler's studio recordings of orchestral excerpts, and it's the best introduction to Furt's style.

[Sinfoniette]

Or just go straight into his classic rendition of the Choral symphony, if you are familiar with that symphony, of course. Its one of the best things Furtwangler did.