Approach, 400, Revelation, Myth v History, Go Pokes!, Happy New Year!

[yadsik]

I regards to the idea of "revealing mysteries," Gnosticism and "ancient people" the beatitudes makes more sense, it is talking about the flesh and the "real world."

I used to think that Matthew and Luke may have added them to make them more popular, but they are included in G-Marcion. Those who are poor are blessed not because of God's pity as modern Christians put it, but because they are giving up the flesh, being closer to the formless reality and heaven of forms.

[calebman114]

Dude.....You have never read the texts. I am a christian and I chuckled through your video. Who are you trying to convince? The audience? Or yourself?! You come across as very unclear and unsure of what your trying to 'preach'. I can't wait to see what you have to say in your other videos. People, choose to believe him if you want, but i asure you, that if you go back and read 'the texts' then you will find something completely different then what he is saying.  Lol this is a joke.

[Xoroaster]

@calebman114 Sing it sister! /watch?v=ubHLzoJOZkg

[yrtemmyscirtemmysa]

Wasn't Jesus a common name at that time? Yeshua

[Xoroaster]

@yrtemmyscirtemmysa Yeah, it's difficult to say how common it was. Though Josephus uses the name very often in various roles.

[apeek7]

So, the crazy dude in Revelations came first. Then they had to "humanize" him. That makes sense - kinda...

[Xoroaster]

@apeek7 Well, the Book of Revelation is only historical allegory meant to be interpreted. It's virtually the same thing as divining from a sheep's liver. Except with interpreting a book, the book is still there. Revelation was interpreted many times. History is turned into Allegory, and the Allegories are read to see what was "revealed." Or rather, "what god is/was telling you."

[ren19992008]

I don't disagree with you for the most part. The mythical Jesus is based on specific people that Constantine chose. Mythic Hesus, Mythic Krishna, historical Yeshu Son of Panther, historical Yeshai and Judas Son of Halachmee, and Apollonius/Paul/Jesus who was the main Jesus because he designed the religion with Emperors Vespasian and Titus.

[deepashtray]

At some time, probably at the Council of Nicaea, it ceased to matter if Jesus was real.

[Xoroaster]

@deepashtray That's probably true. It became a serious issue after Bar Kokhba, but it didn't resolve itself until the later councils. And even then, there were a lot of groups that were deemed "heretical."

[LetReasonPrevail1]

Hey, X Man.

You said (I'm paraphasing a bit), "What modern Christians will tell you is irrelevant, b/c their holy texts tell you something different"

This is one of the key "revelations" that I have had in my studies that has been an amazing mental emancipation

Modern theists, for the most part, don't base their faith on their religion's foundational texts but instead base it on a rationalization on top of a rationalization, etc.

Thanks for succinctly stating this fact.

[ketsan]

Happy New Year, Mike!

[Xoroaster]

@ketsan Happy New Year! ;-D

My team won last night. So, the year has started off just right. ;-D

[Mectrixctic]

What do you make of the meantions of the founder of Xianity in the works of Tacitus and Joesphus?

[Xoroaster]

@Mectrixctic There is one authentic mention in Josephus. Josephus does the best he can trying to figure out what the heck the Christians are talking about. Wars Book 6, Ch 5, Sec 3. Jesus son of Ananus. It's bizarre, but it is about the best he could possibly do.

Tacitus is quite a bit later. But the Nero event was "revealed." It was a part of Christian lore, but it was untrue.

[Mectrixctic]

@Xoroaster

I'd like to see you make a video about the ancient historians.

[ralph17p]

That is a really big chair.

Happy New Year!! Enjoying the series, btw.

[mrgodbehere]

I assume you take the crowbarring of Nazareth into the nativity story as an example of this move from weird to human? And Happy New Year!

[Xoroaster]

@mrgodbehere Yeah, that is one of the stories that eventually made up "human Jesus." There are other stories, like the "temptation story," that also contributed. The theologies before Bar Kokhba didn't seem to think Jesus was "human flesh."

[9Khaleel7]

Christianity may have died in 400 CE, but some bs was resurrected.

[AtheistToothFairy]

Now if the the monotheistic religions actually had died in 400 CE, we'd sure be much further along in advancements than we presently are.

[gettingolder2]

Hope you have a good Year as well..