Honest question. Do all Australians not acknowledge that Holden is a subsidiary to the parent company General Motors? Meaning that yes, as this is the same as the Australian Holden Commodore. It is not "Holden's" design. It is General Motor's
Keep looking, Buick is coming back with the Regal and so the GN.......might be in 2011 I think, Lecerne is supposed to be dropped for the Regal's return, the GN will have a Turboed 3800, with I think the blueprints from the original 231 RWD V6
Second that 79HZGTS. American's may not like this but Australian's love muslce cars more than our US friends. You guys r getting screwed - dumbed down versions of our own vehicles at a ridiculous sale price. And the front ends suck 2! Anyhow...
@davidd2005 Not to mention a hell of a lot cheaper, and much easier to customise. If you decided that the stock G8 look isn't what you're after, you can raid the Holden Special Vehicles parts catalogue for alternatives. Look up "HSV VE Club Sport R8," "HSV VE Senator," "HSV VE GTS." All three have bolt on parts for a G8, inclugin upgraded brakes, suspension, seats, even LED tail lights.
@davidd2005 Not to mention, it wouldn't even cost half of what a BMW 5-Series cost. When Holden were developing the G8's "parent car," they used the BMW M5 as a benchmark, and made sure it would kick its arse.
ehh... i dont like the Pontiac version , the car looks as if someone said , "oooo i like the Vauxhall and should import it. but what if we get rid of the sleek lines and use squares."
Another Holden Piece of Rubbish: I was the unfortunate owner of a VXR8 and from the day of purchase from Holden as a custom order, 80k AUD purchase price, 4 years of amazing design defects, 4 motors, and traveled 40K in 4 years. nearly 2 years of hire cars from holden and AVIS. Problems from Paint, trim, engine, brakes, camber rear, shifter hitting dashboard, gearbox, diff seals, squeeky dash, front and rear bars not aligned bla. Good Looking car, mechanically SHi&. Never Never again. BEWARE!
I've seen STS turbos on the G8 getting 515 hp and 560 tq on a dyno with no other mods. I saw one here on youtube that runs a 11.50 give or take a few tenths and still gets mid 20's mpg.
The more I think of it, I would take a G8GT and mod it for about an extra 50-100hp. The GXP doesn't have cylinder shutdown, which is great for driving the car under normal circumstances. I haven't checked out if the body appearance is the same.
The exhaust valves are closed, there is no spark, and the pistons are still being lubricated. They also alternate which ones are firing every 2500 strokes during deactivation. Plus, the throttle can be opened larger during cruising which helps "pumping" which is loss of pressure in the cylinder caused by low sustained low RPM with the throttle narrowly opened. There are no long term effects on the internals, except less wear on rings from fewer firings. This sounds more genius than stupid.
Also, of course we already know it's an Aussie built Holden. Why the hell do you think GM brought the G8 to the states? BECAUSE AMERICANS loved the Holdens and begged for it. dumb ass.
Not really, most ignorant American's still believe it is an American built car. Most American's don't really know much about anything outside of the U.S.
Funny that you are exactly what you accuse Americans of being. Ignorant. Seriously, you think a handful of game shows that chose the stupidest people they can find on the streets to show their stupidity automatically means that equals all or the majority of all Americans? Get a clue jerk off.
I don't know why you are talking about game shows???
You will see I did not say 'ALL' American's. American's don't realise how they are perceived by the rest of the world do they? American's are perceived as people who think they know everything, invented everything etc and without them the world would fall apart. This is far from the truth.
Don't get me wrong, I do like America and American's but sometimes they need to pull their heads out of their arse.
You are throwing some pretty big stones from the pedestal you put yourself on cheekywun. How would you know what "most ignorant americans" know about relations outside of the states? Have you ever even been here, or are you just basing your opinion on what makes it to your television. I have never been to Australia, so I would not openly bash the majority of it's population with an ignorant statement like the one you made about the States without finding out first hand. give it a try sometime
The only person here is is being offensive and judgemental is you. You have decided to insult Americans here for no reason. You're definitely one chop short of a barbie.
"Most American's don't really know much about anything outside of the U.S." I am an American and I have to say I am with you on that one. I own this G8GT/Holden and it is a beautiful car and its obvious it came from some where's else because this car looks to much European than to be a American made car, but it awesome and I'm glad the Aussies let us have it so I can enjoy it! I love mine and seeing it on a video does not do it justice.......Yog
Americans dont know anything about the rest of the world because they arnt like Europe. Where their country is the size of a grape and surrounded by tons of other countries. The US is a HUGE nation, and has only 2 counties on the borders.
Australia is the same size as the continental USA. Australia does not share borders with any other country. Your justification for your national ignorance is false.
Stops almost the same considering the caddy heft around @ 4300 lbs to the GXP 3900...?
Also you forgot all the agility power come with a warranttee...Now i don't know about you....but i've already got a handhled bringin power levels to 500 and 490...wheel......undetectable by GM ghost tracing pragram searcher.....its been tested by a couple of owner ..though original tune was reloaded...
Then i read a see the auto makes the manual look slow...0-100 1 second faster than the manual,crazy
Hey ZO6Pilot600. well, up here in Canada there are some sweet incentives on the G8. Take list price, then subtract $6500 GM incentive, $2000 All in one package (declined), $1000 GM loyalty and then I haggled another $500 off, so $10,000 discount. The car was already a bargain without the discounts.
I just scored one of these babys. OMG, it's not only fast, it sticks to the road and has an interior way more refined than most North American cars I can remember. Don't bash it until you drive it. And given the cash incentives, it's surprisingly affordable. Highly recommended!
well i got the most refined /powerful/ and more agile American made CTS-v
do remeber if it not for our Zeta plateform and engines the Australian Versions of GM wouldn't be as Hot.......Holden is a division of GM GM is American ergo Holden is sorta American. Not only does the CTS- outpower a GXP by almost 150 hp it handles better and stops shorter.
of course you pay for that.
but thats "refined muscle" if you ask me...and its American The crest of caddy
gxp actually "stops shorter" then the heavier caddy. and yes you do pay for the power/agility but its probably worth it, theyre awesome cars; congrats on the purchase!
Budweiser (the American beer) is manufactured by Anheuser-Busch, which has it's headquarters in St Louis, Missouri. But Anheuser-Busch is owned by AB InBev, which is a Belgian owned company.
Anyway, Holden's head office is in Melbourne, VIC, Australia, not Detroit.
@DeftonesFan867 They may get access to some resources from GM, but very little of the decisions GM Holden make come from Detroit. Last time Detroit gave them any orders, it was how they wanted the current Chevy Camaro to look, as Holden designed and developed it for Chevrolet, handed them the blueprints, then moved on to the next project.
Hey...i'm gonna trade a old 06 Zo6 for the GXP, how much did it cost you?
i was thinking trading 2 GTO's but the vette is a car that requires uber care....and jealous folks like to rub against it.....
I'm also looking at the CTS-v if i could swing a Zo6+ a GTO for a Cts -v i might go that route.....the G8 GXp and the Cts-v are on the same plateform...they are like the older camaro and firebird....but the caddy gets the S/c if you have time respond please. GXP= awesome good luck
The G8 and the CTS-V are not on the same platform. The CTS-V is on the GM Sigma platform. The Pontiac G8 GXP (Holden Commodore) is on the Zeta platform.
I just realized this.....man if they don't look similarly
the CTS-v stops from 60 in 109 ft
the GXp 108-110 So i'm thinking braking is a wash....
Now i'm gnna push the warrantte limit is slotted rotors gonan void NO...i haven;'t checked if they have hard lines.....SS lines wouls increase intial bite.
You can make some smoking deals on the CTS-v as well.....just mention you want aGXP...and they atart slashing prices...they know the GXp is pretty damn good...I you mod hard GXPftw
Ive been a GM guy all my life and it pisses me off that they are dropping THE performance company, Pontiac! They should keep Chevy, Pontiac, Buick, and of course Cadillac. Forget Saturn, Isuzu, Saab, Hummer, and GMC. That would be their best bet. Just look at how many Pontiacs you see on the road. Wake the fuck up for God's sake. It needs to stay!
Not any different from Chevrolet trucks The only things different are badged items like the grill, etc. Other than that they are of the same build quality, which is awesome.
If they want to kill a brand, it should be Buick, which hasn't made anything super exciting since the '87 Grand National GNX. If I were chosing, I'd drop Isuzu, sell Saab, make Hummer a model line of GMC/Chevrolet, instead of a brand. Pontiac would absolutely stay alive, Holden would be brought to the US as Holden, All cars would get performance tuned suspensions, and high output powerplants. I would also move the plants US plants to NV, UT, AZ, NM, MT, and WY. Hire car-enthusiasts for CEO's
You make several good points. I agree with everything, but I disagree with dropping Buick. Buick is an American hallmark company. They make great cars. Yes, they aren't the flashiest or highest performing, but they last and they are classic. Besides, Buick is responsible for so much of what GM is today. Also, I think the CEO's should be car enthusiasts, but not "gear head" rednecks. The company needs to be ran by business men with automotive experience and knowledge.
wow was the person driving blind deaf and pretty much incapable of any sensible input on the wheel and pedals. seriously i dont thnk i could drive that bad missing both of my arms
I think everyone knows by now that the G8 is the same thing as the holden commador but holden is owned by GM an american company, whatever holden does it has to get ok'ed by gm first and the holdens are made from gm parts so the G8 is no less american than the commador is no less australian.
All i'm saying is from a business standpoint, if your gonna design and make a new car that is gonna cost the company millions of dollars over the course of time that the vehicle is in production it will have to be aproved by upper management first. I highly doubt that GM lets holden do whatever they want when GM owns the company.
As for holden special vehicles if its own by holden then it's still owned by GM. Just like Ford special vehicle team is still owned by ford it's just a sub division.
I just drove this car in the GT form, and I was totaly impressed!!! Power a plenty, nice interior materials, great sound system. Deffinantly not the Pontiac of old!! I would consider this car in place of a Passat CC V6, A4/S4, BMW M3, For $35K you get a real nice car plus 25 oil changes, %yr/100k warrenty!! Im a German car nut, but this car cracked me!!! 5K more gets you in a GXP 415HP WOW!! A 4 door Corvette!! I got to admit it, I think GM is growing on me!!! LOL!!
You know, when I first saw this car, it didn't seem that impressive.
But when you think about it, it's a heck of a deal. You can get fast sports car performance in a practical sedan for a cheap price. If you ever had kids, you wouldn't have to "sell the sports car". You could keep this one, and drive them to school with a 400HP car.
Indeed. When you really look at the numbers and compare them to some of the 'true' sports cars out there, you start to wonder why everyone hates on GM.
The G8 GXP is a great bang for the buck. You can get a 400HP+ for about $32-35K. It's like a de-tuned Vette for 5 people. GM just needs to make few more of these cars to get rid of that bad reputation from the 80's and 90's. The new Vette, CTS-V, G8 GXP are all under-rated. The new European cars break down as much as American cars nowadays. Most Japanese cars aren't fun to drive (except few models). This is GM's chance to be #1 again in the world.
all cars now days suck in reliability only japanese companys that make fun cars are nissan hondas subaru, i stick to honda and nissans for japanese cars and german cars man dont get me started.
incredibly biased and completely untrue. If you do some research you will see that Nissan is not rated very high in reliability, Honda has safety problems and Subaru fails in electric reliability. Don't believe me, look it up? I can name at least 5 GM's that are safer, and more reliable while also getting better mpg than all 3 makes you mention. Ok, I will. Chevy Malibu and Malibu Hybrid, Saab 9-3 and 9-5, Caddy CTS, Saturn Aura, Saturn Astra, Saturn Sky, Pontiac G6, Pontiac G5, Pontiac Solstice
thats 5 cars it should be every single model that gm makes, i'm trying to get a g8 and i agree that thats a well made car, along with the new gto but honda nissan or subaru have never had a crazy recall that could kill u or cause a crash gm and ford have,my granddad and great aunt and a bunch of uncles have worked for gm for years and all have told me things that went on in gm in the factory, so i know lots about reliably and gm.
I have to disagree with you. I have owned both American and Japanese automobiles. While I don't know the specifics your uncle told you, I can tell you what my 2 Maxima's and Infiniti I35 were recalled for. Both the 94 and 99 Maxima were recalled because the rear would rust out, spilling fuel and separating the seat belts from the car, also if a car infected with this was hit, It tended to split in two. My 04 I35 was recalled because the Brakes would fall out, the Brakes would fail, no airbags!
not trying to be mean but that 135 was shit they didn't make those very long and i could understand why, but still honda and toyota are the best out of all of all of them i only go with nissan for there sport cars cause like i said they make great engines for racing and hondas make good track racing models depending on witch model, but now it really dos not matter cause there is no such thing as made in american buy american thats bs a person should get the car they like.
the I-series Infiniti was produced from 1996-2004 when they created the RWD/AWD G-sedan. Nissan decided to scrap the I because it was FWD. The I-series is a more luxurious version of the Maxima, but identical in every single mechanical way except the option of a manual transmission. Honda is a great "Motor" company, but they fall very short in the design of the actual car. you can still buy America cars. Pretty soon they will be more American than ever, lol.
i don't see americans being reliable and i don't see german or american cars being reliable either, and wen i say reliable i'm talking about back in the 50s and 60s wen cars were made out of thick metal, now days u could barely be going 5 mph and get 2k damage if u hit something.
Lol how well something does in crash tests doesn't have anything to do with reliability. Reliability means it lasts. for example an American V8 or a BMW engine. So you are saying Jap cars are more reliable because they do better in crash tests lol?? Sounds like you need to learn how to drive or something. Crashing should be the least of your worries.
only japanese company's that make anything decent are toyota and honda thats as good as it gets japanese wise, id say nissan too but they are not as reliable as those two.
I just choked on laughter.. Buy a V-series Caddy and move on... Among members of my 'fleet' include a Stealth Gray STS-V with several modifications and not ONE AMG 'has' Benz has gave it a run for its money yet.. Then again we can throw the '09 CTS-V into the mix to make things very entertaining..
If you want to show off an awesome car then get a good demo driver that is not making the car look like it drives like a bucket of shit, cause that is exacly what that driving didi to this awesome car and with a Holden you can never have enough power for sideways action.
It's called a sedan. The G8 has very stiff suspension for sport sedans, on par with BMW; however, it still is soft so you can actually drive it on the highway without injuring your back.
That is the Holden Commodore ute. You were going to get it in the USA badged as Pontiac G8 ST (sports truck), but with the downturn in your economy Pontiac have decided not to import them. Google "VE SS UTE" if you want to see more.
What did you want it to look like? A 1974 Pontiac Ventura? Where do the rules say that a GTO has to look "awesome". From the beginning, a GTO was only ever a hotted up version of something ordinary. The new GTO is no different.
I guess some people just have to have a manual. Are they claiming the GXP Manual or Auto does 0-60 in 4.7? If stick, GXP doesn't seem worth the upgrade with just .6 seconds shaven off the 0-60 from the Auto GT.
That's not the point. The point is a manual car is a Hell of a lot more fun to drive than an old lady's automatic. When I'm driving I want to do just that. A proper sports car has a manual. Everything else is a Buick.
well I won't say it that way... but clearly manual's better, the standard G8 should have a manual tranny choice (granny auto trans (ok "manumatix (its not a real one anyway its a cheap shit like so much others) sucks)
In Australia, you can get them with almost any engine / transmission combination. 3.6 litre V6 with 6 speed manual or 5 speed automatic. 6.0 litre LS2 with six speed manual or 6 speed automatic. 6.2 litre LS3 with 6 speed manual or 6 speed automatic. The 7.0 litre LS7 is only available in 6 speed manual.
Honest question. Do all Australians not acknowledge that Holden is a subsidiary to the parent company General Motors? Meaning that yes, as this is the same as the Australian Holden Commodore. It is not "Holden's" design. It is General Motor's
krazydude93 3 weeks ago
honest question, do americans acknowledge and appreciate the fact that this car is a holden? or do most claim it to be american?
GMHkid 3 months ago
i got to drive a few days ao and it was fuckin fun car man i want one
xXxchipperchopperxXx 7 months ago
pontiac was so bad ass their engineers always knew how to keep us fans interested to bad their all gone now
bubub56 9 months ago
@bubub56 Pontiac didnt make/engineer the vehicle.
scarblade234 9 months ago
@scarblade234 still love it and pontiac
bubub56 9 months ago
the gxp is shit compared to holden'a HSV E-SERIES 3 (their tuned out commodore/g8). Check my channel for 2 vids on the HSV E-SERIES 3 GTS.
scarblade234 10 months ago
the driver is such a shit cunt lol
CalabreseMPC 1 year ago
whats wrong with that car? MAde in Australia as a holden Commodore...good cars
gerard12668 1 year ago
@gerard12668 i agree! and who cares if was a holden that they brung to the states? all that maters is that the car kicks ass!
4431prw 10 months ago
australian car may look like an average american car, but under the skin, it's a monster equip with lots of high tech and performance :D
coolgames14 1 year ago
The dumbest this GM ever did was killing Pontiac!
Pontiac outsold Buick in the US 2008-2009 that’s a fact.
bserell 1 year ago
@bserell I agree Buick is boring, Pontiac was great!
Toyeboy89 1 year ago
(cough cough) bonneville (cough cough)
ChrisYoungGunn 1 year ago
Same power as a 2000 BMW M5. *yawn*
mtxrawkus 1 year ago
moron forgot to turn off the stability control
sid203 1 year ago
50 cent is such a shitty driver.. STICK TO BEING DRIVEN YOU DUMB A#E BAHAHAHAHAHAHA
mwmp1 1 year ago
@mwmp1 quit hating on 50 because he got a g8
racingchamp101 1 year ago
You're driving that car with Tourettes Foot.
toasteroven2001 1 year ago
Keep looking, Buick is coming back with the Regal and so the GN.......might be in 2011 I think, Lecerne is supposed to be dropped for the Regal's return, the GN will have a Turboed 3800, with I think the blueprints from the original 231 RWD V6
soulfultenor 1 year ago
your mom sucks your small dick because she is a slut just like you
Austinawesomenis 2 years ago
which one has more power G8 GT or G8 GXP.?
Messi10Productions 2 years ago
GXP.
fire398017 2 years ago
gxp
brdsmp 2 years ago
Australians make bertter American cars than Americans make American cars..
BanglishBoy 2 years ago
Of course, we're better than everyone at anything!
darkhawk1979 2 years ago
|:{
BanglishBoy 2 years ago
no the engine is american and the tranny the only aussy thing is the body and interior and holden is owned by gm so shut up
roadpailot 2 years ago
exactly.
BanglishBoy 2 years ago
The engine is made in Canada and the transmission is made in Mexico.
The body is made in Australia and the whole thing is assembled there.
Which part is American???
79HZGTS 2 years ago
the managment
mwmp1 1 year ago
anything with a GXP badge is the bomb
alizin2008 2 years ago
Agreed.
scruffy412 2 years ago
Have you ever driven a GXP? If so, I think your opinion would be different.
bigpurf 2 years ago
I meant it in a good way dude. I meant bomb as in the best. Guess u never heard that saying before.
alizin2008 2 years ago
Second that 79HZGTS. American's may not like this but Australian's love muslce cars more than our US friends. You guys r getting screwed - dumbed down versions of our own vehicles at a ridiculous sale price. And the front ends suck 2! Anyhow...
hirolahmanagement 2 years ago
That's because the Govt get's involved by making lots of stupid rules that suck the fun right out of them... especially the C.A.F.E. requirements.
jreyman 2 years ago
are you all on crack or totally dumb as a rock about cars/??
wahl622 2 years ago
Its so much better than a BMW. The Pontiac G8 will get you laid.
davidd2005 2 years ago 17
@davidd2005 Not to mention a hell of a lot cheaper, and much easier to customise. If you decided that the stock G8 look isn't what you're after, you can raid the Holden Special Vehicles parts catalogue for alternatives. Look up "HSV VE Club Sport R8," "HSV VE Senator," "HSV VE GTS." All three have bolt on parts for a G8, inclugin upgraded brakes, suspension, seats, even LED tail lights.
Mechknight73 1 year ago
@davidd2005 Not to mention, it wouldn't even cost half of what a BMW 5-Series cost. When Holden were developing the G8's "parent car," they used the BMW M5 as a benchmark, and made sure it would kick its arse.
Mechknight73 1 year ago
ehh... i dont like the Pontiac version , the car looks as if someone said , "oooo i like the Vauxhall and should import it. but what if we get rid of the sleek lines and use squares."
wilsob26 2 years ago
Body roll!
HKBM45 2 years ago
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Another Holden Piece of Rubbish: I was the unfortunate owner of a VXR8 and from the day of purchase from Holden as a custom order, 80k AUD purchase price, 4 years of amazing design defects, 4 motors, and traveled 40K in 4 years. nearly 2 years of hire cars from holden and AVIS. Problems from Paint, trim, engine, brakes, camber rear, shifter hitting dashboard, gearbox, diff seals, squeeky dash, front and rear bars not aligned bla. Good Looking car, mechanically SHi&. Never Never again. BEWARE!
camaro1967rs 2 years ago
You can't buy a VXR8 in Australia. The VXR8 is a Vauxhall.
What you had was a Holden VX R8, which is 4 years older and 3 models earlier than the VE / G8 / VXR8.
The VX and the VE are very different cars, they don't even use the same platform.
There is no point to your ramblings.
79HZGTS 2 years ago
can the gt come in manual?
rduster6 2 years ago
slap a superhcarger on that bitch itll fuckin scream
rob16875 2 years ago 2
I've seen STS turbos on the G8 getting 515 hp and 560 tq on a dyno with no other mods. I saw one here on youtube that runs a 11.50 give or take a few tenths and still gets mid 20's mpg.
cooksta3276 2 years ago
The more I think of it, I would take a G8GT and mod it for about an extra 50-100hp. The GXP doesn't have cylinder shutdown, which is great for driving the car under normal circumstances. I haven't checked out if the body appearance is the same.
cooksta3276 2 years ago
cylinder shutdown is the worst thing ever invented , LOL half of your engines pistons are new the rest are old and worn out
MrCohibaboy 2 years ago
The exhaust valves are closed, there is no spark, and the pistons are still being lubricated. They also alternate which ones are firing every 2500 strokes during deactivation. Plus, the throttle can be opened larger during cruising which helps "pumping" which is loss of pressure in the cylinder caused by low sustained low RPM with the throttle narrowly opened. There are no long term effects on the internals, except less wear on rings from fewer firings. This sounds more genius than stupid.
cooksta3276 2 years ago
I knew Pontiac was doomed when 50 cents was going to be their spokes person.
MidnightNSavannah 2 years ago 25
Sort of like how Chrysler used Snoop in a few of their stupid commercials.
Getting some ghetto black guy is not the best way to appeal to people who can actually afford your products.
justinaurelius 2 years ago
it appeals to the black ghetto people that can steal this ride
MrCohibaboy 2 years ago
So does crack, malt liqueur, HIV and single moms.
Is there such a thing as a black family with a father?
justinaurelius 2 years ago
Poor Pontiac! Noo why are they leaving me? Sucks they have to go. I"m glad I have a Pontiac. We will miss you.
TheAmericanWay1993 2 years ago 4
f u
Austinawesomenis 2 years ago
Yeah i Love mine... plus its fun feasting on those Hemis and stangs!
pomeroy82 2 years ago 2
13 sec at 108. Four doors, seats 5. Mid 20's MPG. I'm sold.
cooksta3276 2 years ago 4
Problem with the commentator...
At the end you say the GT may be enough, but they ONLY come in AUTOs, I want a (M6) manual, so the ONLY option is the GXP.
WorkoutModerator 2 years ago
um. for the past few weeks they have had a manuel. so! go buy it!
BaneOfFreeSpeech 2 years ago
Come to Australia, you can get about any engine / transmission combination you can think of.
79HZGTS 2 years ago
Tha is an U G L Y...car!!!!!
MrSinister99 2 years ago
Also, of course we already know it's an Aussie built Holden. Why the hell do you think GM brought the G8 to the states? BECAUSE AMERICANS loved the Holdens and begged for it. dumb ass.
YTBruler1 2 years ago
Not really, most ignorant American's still believe it is an American built car. Most American's don't really know much about anything outside of the U.S.
cheekywun 2 years ago
Funny that you are exactly what you accuse Americans of being. Ignorant. Seriously, you think a handful of game shows that chose the stupidest people they can find on the streets to show their stupidity automatically means that equals all or the majority of all Americans? Get a clue jerk off.
YTBruler1 2 years ago
I don't know why you are talking about game shows???
You will see I did not say 'ALL' American's. American's don't realise how they are perceived by the rest of the world do they? American's are perceived as people who think they know everything, invented everything etc and without them the world would fall apart. This is far from the truth.
Don't get me wrong, I do like America and American's but sometimes they need to pull their heads out of their arse.
cheekywun 2 years ago
You are throwing some pretty big stones from the pedestal you put yourself on cheekywun. How would you know what "most ignorant americans" know about relations outside of the states? Have you ever even been here, or are you just basing your opinion on what makes it to your television. I have never been to Australia, so I would not openly bash the majority of it's population with an ignorant statement like the one you made about the States without finding out first hand. give it a try sometime
partsdan7 2 years ago 3
The only person here is is being offensive and judgemental is you. You have decided to insult Americans here for no reason. You're definitely one chop short of a barbie.
YTBruler1 2 years ago
"Most American's don't really know much about anything outside of the U.S." I am an American and I have to say I am with you on that one. I own this G8GT/Holden and it is a beautiful car and its obvious it came from some where's else because this car looks to much European than to be a American made car, but it awesome and I'm glad the Aussies let us have it so I can enjoy it! I love mine and seeing it on a video does not do it justice.......Yog
yoggie2 2 years ago 2
Americans dont know anything about the rest of the world because they arnt like Europe. Where their country is the size of a grape and surrounded by tons of other countries. The US is a HUGE nation, and has only 2 counties on the borders.
CordovaMage 2 years ago
interesting point.
prdgyair 2 years ago
Australia is the same size as the continental USA. Australia does not share borders with any other country. Your justification for your national ignorance is false.
79HZGTS 2 years ago
The USA tries to look bigger by cramming 48 states into an area the same size as Australia.
We have 7 states in Australia, and 2 of them make Texas look like a grape.
79HZGTS 2 years ago 2
A great Aussie designed and built car! (is really a Holden VE Commodore)
cheekywun 2 years ago
why do we have to keep going on about this? Yes the world knows that it is aussie, lets not come across as stuck ups...
btdt88 2 years ago
cough australian cough holden cough commodore cough cough
mitchell8934 2 years ago
But no warrantee.
ZO6Pilot600 2 years ago
Stops almost the same considering the caddy heft around @ 4300 lbs to the GXP 3900...?
Also you forgot all the agility power come with a warranttee...Now i don't know about you....but i've already got a handhled bringin power levels to 500 and 490...wheel......undetectable by GM ghost tracing pragram searcher.....its been tested by a couple of owner ..though original tune was reloaded...
Then i read a see the auto makes the manual look slow...0-100 1 second faster than the manual,crazy
ZO6Pilot600 2 years ago
he ass hole fuck you uour momma is fat bitch
Austinawesomenis 2 years ago
Hey ZO6Pilot600. well, up here in Canada there are some sweet incentives on the G8. Take list price, then subtract $6500 GM incentive, $2000 All in one package (declined), $1000 GM loyalty and then I haggled another $500 off, so $10,000 discount. The car was already a bargain without the discounts.
slats66 2 years ago
I just scored one of these babys. OMG, it's not only fast, it sticks to the road and has an interior way more refined than most North American cars I can remember. Don't bash it until you drive it. And given the cash incentives, it's surprisingly affordable. Highly recommended!
slats66 2 years ago 3
It is "more refined than than most North American cars", because it is not a North American car.
It is an Australian car.
79HZGTS 2 years ago
well i got the most refined /powerful/ and more agile American made CTS-v
do remeber if it not for our Zeta plateform and engines the Australian Versions of GM wouldn't be as Hot.......Holden is a division of GM GM is American ergo Holden is sorta American. Not only does the CTS- outpower a GXP by almost 150 hp it handles better and stops shorter.
of course you pay for that.
but thats "refined muscle" if you ask me...and its American The crest of caddy
rules the "ring" 4 drs
ZO6Pilot600 2 years ago
The Zeta platform was designed and engineered in Australia by Holden.
If you find a car that was built on the Zeta platform, then it was made in Australia by Holden. No one else has used that platform, yet.
79HZGTS 2 years ago
gxp actually "stops shorter" then the heavier caddy. and yes you do pay for the power/agility but its probably worth it, theyre awesome cars; congrats on the purchase!
greg8383 2 years ago
Holden is GM, GM is American, plus CTS / CTS-V is N. American and awesome too.
jreyman 2 years ago
GM is a global corporation.
79HZGTS 2 years ago
@79HZGTS
HQ'ed in Detroit which makes them an American company.
DeftonesFan867 1 year ago
That means nothing.
Budweiser (the American beer) is manufactured by Anheuser-Busch, which has it's headquarters in St Louis, Missouri. But Anheuser-Busch is owned by AB InBev, which is a Belgian owned company.
Anyway, Holden's head office is in Melbourne, VIC, Australia, not Detroit.
79HZGTS 1 year ago
@DeftonesFan867 They may get access to some resources from GM, but very little of the decisions GM Holden make come from Detroit. Last time Detroit gave them any orders, it was how they wanted the current Chevy Camaro to look, as Holden designed and developed it for Chevrolet, handed them the blueprints, then moved on to the next project.
Mechknight73 1 year ago
I did not say that the Cadillac CTS / CTS-V wasn't an American car.
I said that every car on the Zeta platform was made in Australia.
The CTS/CTS-V uses the Sigma II platform.
I made that post 7 months ago. The 2010 Camaro is also on the Zeta platform, and that is now made in Canada.
79HZGTS 2 years ago
Hey...i'm gonna trade a old 06 Zo6 for the GXP, how much did it cost you?
i was thinking trading 2 GTO's but the vette is a car that requires uber care....and jealous folks like to rub against it.....
I'm also looking at the CTS-v if i could swing a Zo6+ a GTO for a Cts -v i might go that route.....the G8 GXp and the Cts-v are on the same plateform...they are like the older camaro and firebird....but the caddy gets the S/c if you have time respond please. GXP= awesome good luck
ZO6Pilot600 2 years ago
The G8 and the CTS-V are not on the same platform. The CTS-V is on the GM Sigma platform. The Pontiac G8 GXP (Holden Commodore) is on the Zeta platform.
79HZGTS 2 years ago
I just realized this.....man if they don't look similarly
the CTS-v stops from 60 in 109 ft
the GXp 108-110 So i'm thinking braking is a wash....
Now i'm gnna push the warrantte limit is slotted rotors gonan void NO...i haven;'t checked if they have hard lines.....SS lines wouls increase intial bite.
You can make some smoking deals on the CTS-v as well.....just mention you want aGXP...and they atart slashing prices...they know the GXp is pretty damn good...I you mod hard GXPftw
ZO6Pilot600 2 years ago
Ive been a GM guy all my life and it pisses me off that they are dropping THE performance company, Pontiac! They should keep Chevy, Pontiac, Buick, and of course Cadillac. Forget Saturn, Isuzu, Saab, Hummer, and GMC. That would be their best bet. Just look at how many Pontiacs you see on the road. Wake the fuck up for God's sake. It needs to stay!
JBurnsMonteSS 2 years ago 3
id rather see saab stay then pontiac
halfj99 2 years ago
after they get rid of Hummer, Saab, and Saturn, they should bring back Olds.
imo
Weazell 2 years ago
keep GMC tho...their trucks are bomb...esp. the denali (yukon and seirra)..
jusblaze218 2 years ago
Not any different from Chevrolet trucks The only things different are badged items like the grill, etc. Other than that they are of the same build quality, which is awesome.
jreyman 2 years ago
If they want to kill a brand, it should be Buick, which hasn't made anything super exciting since the '87 Grand National GNX. If I were chosing, I'd drop Isuzu, sell Saab, make Hummer a model line of GMC/Chevrolet, instead of a brand. Pontiac would absolutely stay alive, Holden would be brought to the US as Holden, All cars would get performance tuned suspensions, and high output powerplants. I would also move the plants US plants to NV, UT, AZ, NM, MT, and WY. Hire car-enthusiasts for CEO's
jreyman 2 years ago 2
You make several good points. I agree with everything, but I disagree with dropping Buick. Buick is an American hallmark company. They make great cars. Yes, they aren't the flashiest or highest performing, but they last and they are classic. Besides, Buick is responsible for so much of what GM is today. Also, I think the CEO's should be car enthusiasts, but not "gear head" rednecks. The company needs to be ran by business men with automotive experience and knowledge.
JBurnsMonteSS 2 years ago
@jreyman
Buick is selling an amazing amount of cars for just having 3 current models. Something sadly Pontiac wasn't doing.
DeftonesFan867 1 year ago
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I HOPE YOU RECK IN THAT SHIT CAR
Austinawesomenis 2 years ago
Wow you're a Dick
MotleyCrewCab 2 years ago
the ink u used on that post is more valuable than your opinion...what are you some kind of moron?
twosetters 2 years ago
u must be fat
908LuX973 2 years ago
fucking sexy
rnel2791 2 years ago 2
Wow that things as quick as my STS-V nice!!
INUROK 2 years ago
yeah, because it's got the same engine/drivetrain
alpha2hz 2 years ago
Too bad GM is going to drop all Pontiac vehicles...
biglou250 2 years ago
g8 is pontiacs saver car and i fuckin want one sooo badd
gtracer226 2 years ago 3
hey loser its commodore not commador
buttonpusher37 2 years ago
wow was the person driving blind deaf and pretty much incapable of any sensible input on the wheel and pedals. seriously i dont thnk i could drive that bad missing both of my arms
felix1805 2 years ago 2
omg haha that was 50 cent driving, lol now i know why my comment made so much sense, hes def handicapped
felix1805 2 years ago
probably, i remember seeing him on unique whips ripping one of these in front of his mansion
Unkicrackie 2 years ago
I love the GXP but c'mon...the 6-speed manual is an OPTION? Fuck that. The stick shift should be standard and the auto an option. Automatics suck.
mormonjoe 2 years ago 2
For those of you thinking it is an American car.....check out the Vauxhall in UK or Holden in Australia.......I like the car though :)
outbreak187 2 years ago
No, just check out the Holden in Australia.
Like the Pontiac G8, the Vauxhall in the UK is also an import.
79HZGTS 2 years ago
I think everyone knows by now that the G8 is the same thing as the holden commador but holden is owned by GM an american company, whatever holden does it has to get ok'ed by gm first and the holdens are made from gm parts so the G8 is no less american than the commador is no less australian.
SThoogie 2 years ago
What, are you on the board of directors at GM, or are you just making shit up as you go?
Next you be trying to tell us that Holden Special Vehicles is owned by GM.
79HZGTS 2 years ago
All i'm saying is from a business standpoint, if your gonna design and make a new car that is gonna cost the company millions of dollars over the course of time that the vehicle is in production it will have to be aproved by upper management first. I highly doubt that GM lets holden do whatever they want when GM owns the company.
As for holden special vehicles if its own by holden then it's still owned by GM. Just like Ford special vehicle team is still owned by ford it's just a sub division.
SThoogie 2 years ago
I just drove this car in the GT form, and I was totaly impressed!!! Power a plenty, nice interior materials, great sound system. Deffinantly not the Pontiac of old!! I would consider this car in place of a Passat CC V6, A4/S4, BMW M3, For $35K you get a real nice car plus 25 oil changes, %yr/100k warrenty!! Im a German car nut, but this car cracked me!!! 5K more gets you in a GXP 415HP WOW!! A 4 door Corvette!! I got to admit it, I think GM is growing on me!!! LOL!!
AntTuck 2 years ago
that was $25 oil changes... Oops!!
AntTuck 2 years ago
what a guy u can never have enough power lol
haggart17 2 years ago
You know, when I first saw this car, it didn't seem that impressive.
But when you think about it, it's a heck of a deal. You can get fast sports car performance in a practical sedan for a cheap price. If you ever had kids, you wouldn't have to "sell the sports car". You could keep this one, and drive them to school with a 400HP car.
That's fucking sweet.
brokenjohnny 2 years ago 3
Indeed. When you really look at the numbers and compare them to some of the 'true' sports cars out there, you start to wonder why everyone hates on GM.
luminaeus 2 years ago
The G8 GXP is a great bang for the buck. You can get a 400HP+ for about $32-35K. It's like a de-tuned Vette for 5 people. GM just needs to make few more of these cars to get rid of that bad reputation from the 80's and 90's. The new Vette, CTS-V, G8 GXP are all under-rated. The new European cars break down as much as American cars nowadays. Most Japanese cars aren't fun to drive (except few models). This is GM's chance to be #1 again in the world.
mail22 2 years ago
all cars now days suck in reliability only japanese companys that make fun cars are nissan hondas subaru, i stick to honda and nissans for japanese cars and german cars man dont get me started.
vtecboi18 2 years ago
incredibly biased and completely untrue. If you do some research you will see that Nissan is not rated very high in reliability, Honda has safety problems and Subaru fails in electric reliability. Don't believe me, look it up? I can name at least 5 GM's that are safer, and more reliable while also getting better mpg than all 3 makes you mention. Ok, I will. Chevy Malibu and Malibu Hybrid, Saab 9-3 and 9-5, Caddy CTS, Saturn Aura, Saturn Astra, Saturn Sky, Pontiac G6, Pontiac G5, Pontiac Solstice
Ryantravisaol 2 years ago
thats 5 cars it should be every single model that gm makes, i'm trying to get a g8 and i agree that thats a well made car, along with the new gto but honda nissan or subaru have never had a crazy recall that could kill u or cause a crash gm and ford have,my granddad and great aunt and a bunch of uncles have worked for gm for years and all have told me things that went on in gm in the factory, so i know lots about reliably and gm.
vtecboi18 2 years ago
I have to disagree with you. I have owned both American and Japanese automobiles. While I don't know the specifics your uncle told you, I can tell you what my 2 Maxima's and Infiniti I35 were recalled for. Both the 94 and 99 Maxima were recalled because the rear would rust out, spilling fuel and separating the seat belts from the car, also if a car infected with this was hit, It tended to split in two. My 04 I35 was recalled because the Brakes would fall out, the Brakes would fail, no airbags!
Ryantravisaol 2 years ago
not trying to be mean but that 135 was shit they didn't make those very long and i could understand why, but still honda and toyota are the best out of all of all of them i only go with nissan for there sport cars cause like i said they make great engines for racing and hondas make good track racing models depending on witch model, but now it really dos not matter cause there is no such thing as made in american buy american thats bs a person should get the car they like.
vtecboi18 2 years ago
the I-series Infiniti was produced from 1996-2004 when they created the RWD/AWD G-sedan. Nissan decided to scrap the I because it was FWD. The I-series is a more luxurious version of the Maxima, but identical in every single mechanical way except the option of a manual transmission. Honda is a great "Motor" company, but they fall very short in the design of the actual car. you can still buy America cars. Pretty soon they will be more American than ever, lol.
Ryantravisaol 2 years ago
You complain about reliability and then say you like Japanese cars.. WUT.
sidescrollin 2 years ago
i don't see americans being reliable and i don't see german or american cars being reliable either, and wen i say reliable i'm talking about back in the 50s and 60s wen cars were made out of thick metal, now days u could barely be going 5 mph and get 2k damage if u hit something.
vtecboi18 2 years ago
Lol how well something does in crash tests doesn't have anything to do with reliability. Reliability means it lasts. for example an American V8 or a BMW engine. So you are saying Jap cars are more reliable because they do better in crash tests lol?? Sounds like you need to learn how to drive or something. Crashing should be the least of your worries.
sidescrollin 2 years ago
only japanese company's that make anything decent are toyota and honda thats as good as it gets japanese wise, id say nissan too but they are not as reliable as those two.
vtecboi18 2 years ago
cheaper though
SilentAnoX 2 years ago
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dodge charger are better n faster r/t
Bahaonline 2 years ago
Hope you're joking, and not just a dodge fan boy with no knowledge whatsoever of either car.
antik8 2 years ago 2
I just choked on laughter.. Buy a V-series Caddy and move on... Among members of my 'fleet' include a Stealth Gray STS-V with several modifications and not ONE AMG 'has' Benz has gave it a run for its money yet.. Then again we can throw the '09 CTS-V into the mix to make things very entertaining..
silverws6ta 2 years ago
If you want to show off an awesome car then get a good demo driver that is not making the car look like it drives like a bucket of shit, cause that is exacly what that driving didi to this awesome car and with a Holden you can never have enough power for sideways action.
Garysparkplug 2 years ago
see alot of body roll
jas03000 2 years ago
It's called a sedan. The G8 has very stiff suspension for sport sedans, on par with BMW; however, it still is soft so you can actually drive it on the highway without injuring your back.
luminaeus 2 years ago
That would be 50 Cent's amazing driving skills.
MisterAndersonTA 2 years ago
The official numbers are 415 horsepower and torque, not 402. 1/4 mile in 13.0 @ 109.
PONTIACMUSCLE1 2 years ago 2
i hope pontiac survives through these tough times and 1 day bring that trans am concept to reality have u seen it. its my dream car.
chava408 2 years ago
That was some horrible demo driving in that lot! WTF? These twats cant drive for shit.
jeffsmonte 3 years ago
They probably don't know how to drive a manual car lol
janipewter 3 years ago
loooll thats 50 cent driving lmao no joke
chrisiztheman1618 3 years ago
did anyone else see the grey el camino looking car in the backround at 1:02??
now thats a car id drive!
oymate09 3 years ago
That is the Holden Commodore ute. You were going to get it in the USA badged as Pontiac G8 ST (sports truck), but with the downturn in your economy Pontiac have decided not to import them. Google "VE SS UTE" if you want to see more.
79HZGTS 3 years ago
everyone knows that automatics are actually faster once you start getting into lower 1/4 mile times
bbd399 3 years ago
SLP will soon reveal the 2009 Pontiac G8 Firehawk, & will wrongly reinstate the legendary nameplate!
rst400ss 3 years ago
it wont have the strenght to do it...
LexSullivan 3 years ago
they have a so hard time to make it I don't think it will be easy for them to create new models
LexSullivan 3 years ago
fuck manual dude. there are plenty manual cars out there. I like manumatics and pluse we all know that manumatics are better then just manuals
83Brady83 3 years ago
Its good to see you guys finally enjoying a well built Aussie car.
palmsophat 3 years ago 2
cmon theres no such thing as enough power
s1g2m3 3 years ago 2
That car is hot! Best looking Pontiac in a long time.
JWI01 3 years ago
haha your rite great australian built cars just like the gto
nickster1318 3 years ago
I really like the 'new' GTO, but the fact is that it does not have very inspiring looks. The 'new' GTO just does not look awesome.
ThunderAppeal 3 years ago
What did you want it to look like? A 1974 Pontiac Ventura? Where do the rules say that a GTO has to look "awesome". From the beginning, a GTO was only ever a hotted up version of something ordinary. The new GTO is no different.
79HZGTS 3 years ago 2
I guess some people just have to have a manual. Are they claiming the GXP Manual or Auto does 0-60 in 4.7? If stick, GXP doesn't seem worth the upgrade with just .6 seconds shaven off the 0-60 from the Auto GT.
hazballs09 3 years ago
.6 seconds is drastic
jvincent3131 3 years ago 5
the most important is not the seconds, but the fun you have driving in these seconds
LexSullivan 3 years ago 2
That's not the point. The point is a manual car is a Hell of a lot more fun to drive than an old lady's automatic. When I'm driving I want to do just that. A proper sports car has a manual. Everything else is a Buick.
Maximaniac72 3 years ago 2
Ha, a RWD Buick w/ limited rear slip, maybe ;-)
hazballs09 3 years ago
well I won't say it that way... but clearly manual's better, the standard G8 should have a manual tranny choice (granny auto trans (ok "manumatix (its not a real one anyway its a cheap shit like so much others) sucks)
LexSullivan 3 years ago
In Australia, you can get them with almost any engine / transmission combination. 3.6 litre V6 with 6 speed manual or 5 speed automatic. 6.0 litre LS2 with six speed manual or 6 speed automatic. 6.2 litre LS3 with 6 speed manual or 6 speed automatic. The 7.0 litre LS7 is only available in 6 speed manual.
79HZGTS 3 years ago
that's why the reg g8 and gt need more engine and trannies
LexSullivan 3 years ago
Hellooooo torque steer...
BEANERxKILLER 3 years ago
Torque steer? This is rear wheel drive. I dont think rear wheel drive vehicles have torque steer.
cgeorge6785 3 years ago 7
The Saab 9 3 only gets 24 MPG and my BMW is worse than that.
I am thinking about one of these but the base model will be good for me, why does anyone need over 400 HP on American road?
If they had a manual transmission in the base 6 cyl it would be a no brainer and I would already have one.
davidd2005 3 years ago
what about manumatic? The caddy CTS has it.
wassupbro 3 years ago
I never understood US car makers' obsession to not offer the option of a manual transmission.
Unless I have 2 cars,I own a stick.
From shit boxes to the nice ones,very few cars are offered with a manual.
I almost bought a Lincoln LS6 a few years back until I found out they discontinued the availability of the manual.
I always said they should have offered a high performance version of the 98-2004 STS with a 6spd,maybe from the Vette.
But as much as I love that car,it is front wheel drive.
thatmudbuttstench 3 years ago 2
da boi said on da kelly blue book review dat it has 415hp and 415lbs of torque and 0-60 in 4.6 secs so whos lying???
bkjones614 3 years ago