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  • @ex5098 well everyone has an opinion i just like Metallica better lol

  • Crazy Train written 1980/1981.. Sweet Dreams (the Eurythmics song that Manson covered) was written in 1983.

  • an example of one is "crazy train" and "sweet dreams" by marylon manson

  • Who gives a damn. Just shut up and listen to the music.

  • I think its just a coincidence.

  • Metallica didnt rip off anything they just took a bad song and made it better (:

  • @MissNightmare66 Are you joking, that excel song is way better than anything metallica EVER did

  • I think they're in the same keys, which is why they sound similar. But no, it's not ripped off. I'm not even a Metallica fan.

  • Ive ripped of riffs without knowing it too. Like I made a riff and then my dad was like "man that sounds like a part in sabbath bloody sabbath" well I have never even heard that before and then I looked it up and was like :O

    so yeah... it just happens sometimes...

  • I used to think they sounded similar, but my friend, took an arrow to the knee and I had to nurse him back to health. :(

  • @pingoothepenguin The arrow in the knee is getting old dude!

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  • pendejo kuliao y aweonao!!!!

  • Sandman still rocks...never have heard the other.

  • To the poster of this video...How about you write a peace of original music that sounds nothing like ANYONE else, then you can talk shit.

  • Oh fucking wow. 3 or 4 notes that are similar for the riffs of the songs. Whoop de fucking doo.

  • You can't say one musician copies off another! It's hard to make music which is different from the millions of composed pieces already on earth!

  • THEY ARE JUST FAMILIAR !!!!!! -.-'

    Kirk came up with enter sandman riff.

  • Metallica made a better cover !

  • Metallica sucks, long live suicidal punk! The jokes on u weak ass Metallica fans.

  • @killmybuzz No matter what you like, You should respect other musicians

  • of couse it is a rip off, but who cares really, all the bands rip each other off to some degree, i'm a huge Metallica fan myself, but if you don't see the similarities between the two songs you are kidding yourself. Excel were a well known band on the bay area scene and Metallica were very aware of the bands in and around that scene. Furthermore, if you do your homework, you will see there are a lot more connections bewteen the bands then you think, pushead being one of them.

  • By the way, James did an interview a while back admitting they lifted the riff from Sanitarium from Bleak House; so it's not exactly like they don't have previous.

  • Wow Dude striking similarities that are way to close to be a coincedence> LMFAO!

  • As a musician I've ripped off riffs all the time without even knowing it. When you listen to a lot of music the way most musicians do it all just kind of creeps into your playing.

  • @BatteryRock yea... but weeks before metallica recorded enter sandman, their manage went to see excel live.... their is even an interview where James admits he stole it..

    Metallica fucking sucks.

  • @BatteryRock I know, there were a lot of times where I've made a riff and I thought to myself, "Wow, this is a pretty awesome riff!" But found out later that it was a song that I already knew. I've even made riffs that were pretty much exact from songs that I didn't even know, that's a pretty crappy experience!

  • The Excel song is better....LA hardcore.

  • What's lovely is that towards the end of tapping.. it turns into a ripoff of YYZ by rush which got released in 1981. But we won't mention that.

  • Check out Stone "Get Stoned" from 1988.

  • sounds similar. *shurgs*

  • metallica also ripped off Saxon

  • metallica rip the hell of a lot of things

  • excels is sweet!

  • not the same song by far! those who don't hear it c'mon unplug your ears will you? XD

  • welcome to the Metallica haters part of youtube.

  • metallica sounds better 

  • Just because it's Metallica, all the fanboys get protective. Same thing happens with Led Zeppelin fans. But you can't deny, this is a clear rip off, or a huge coincidence, if you believe in that sort of thing.

  • @SolidLittle we dont know if metallica actaully knew about excels version you cant be sure

  • Probably every combination of guitar notes is already made so noone can make a riff thats sounds a differnt from others

  • @Branovix Dude! that's exactly what i've been saying!.people are so goddamn ignorant!. you can only play so many chords,and sometimes you can accidentally rip off somethings. the same thing applies to people saying that the chilli peppers and green day have gone soft and "pussy" but you can only play so many songs in a particular fashion then you have to change up your style a bit or else everything you do will sound the same. only a true musician will understand this.

  • @nozen13 some dumb-shit will probably disagree with me and want to start shit over youtube but fortunately that individividual is probably gonnna be a little high school macho man punk

  • @nozen13 I see what you're saying, but Metallica has done this way too many times to be a coincidence. Check Out:

    "Rainbow Warrior" by Bleak House (Welcome Home: Sanitarium)

    "Tapping Into the Emotional Void" by Excel (Enter Sandman)

    and "Unforgiven II is taken from Iron Maiden's "Children of the Damned, which is itself taken from Jimi Hendrix's "1983 (A Merman I should Turn To Be)

  • they sound vaguely similar.

  • Thats insane! I knew that intro riff is originally in some spanish or portugese traditional music but that excel sounds identical.

  • Many bands ripped off metallica's riffs specially in the early days. you can hear their riffs in almost all metal songs today. why only bash metallica for a single riff? c'mon!

  • Metallica is one of my favorite bands, and one of the reasons I am into Metal. I can honestly say, who cares? This is my least favorite Metallica song after King Nothing, so I'm not surprised it came from somewhere else.

  • EXCEL's sounds waaayyyy better !!! they sure did ripped it off !!! they used to it anyway!!!!

  • Two songs sound somewhat similar! Call the police!

  • you are right, but the thing with Metallica is, they publicly say their music is an inspiration of a lot of bands

  • lars ulrich supports SOPA!

  • @VonyeWest808

    No he doesn't you fuck wit. The guys a bit of an idiot and has some stupid ideas, but atleast he isn't a fucking moron and a liar like you.

  • @VonyeWest808 Lars said in an interview that sharing is great.

  • Who the fuck is Excel?

  • @shadowfigure2

    A stupid kid like you wouldn't know.

  • It's worth noting that Hammet's Enter Sandman riff was originally played by just alternating from the first part to the tail - same structure as this Excel riff. Lars later suggested repeating the main part for 3 bars and then only playing the tail at the end. Compared that way, the riffs would sound even closer. But then, Metallica didn't record it that way. Could have been the inspiration though.

  • Well in the Metallica song, the note that rings at the end of the main riff is A, or the 4th to the root not which is E. In the Excel song, the note that rings is also A, but it's the flat 5th to the root note with is Eb.... Similar, but not same.

  • As with a lot of these 'are they rip offs', i think it's a sub conscious lift. The Excel song was released in '89 and probably got some play on Californian rock stations as they were based there. I'm sure Hammett might have heard this at some point and a very similar riff then emerged on one of his 'riff tapes' in early 1990 which of course, was turned into Sandman.

    You always have to be careful that the new song you are writing isn't just something you've heard and used without thinking.

  • bullshit.

  • similar but not rip off

  • Metallica ran out of Mustaine's material...period

  • Good musicians rip off, greatest musicians steal!

  • ok well i didnt learn much but i know now when someones says entersandman ima showem the excel version man

  • people who don't play music are so stupid. the reason that both these songs sound similar, and why many, many metal songs sound similar, is because metal is mostly written on the phrygian scale, which gives metal that "metal" sound.

    here's a thought...  in the same way that those who don't know politics shouldn't speak about politics, maybe people who don't know music shouldn't speak about writing music. Can you grasp this??

  • Excel is still held in high regard in the punk scene on the west coast, Metallica on the other hand is just considered a sell out hipster band.

  • the secound part of the riff is different but ofc verry (familliar)

  • Enter Sandman's main riff was Kirk Hammett's when he was in Exodus. That was WAY before 1989.

  • this song is actually the song they made enter sandman from, its a fact ;)

  • Metallica are known for ripping people off so this isnt really a suprise to me atleast

  • Six degree of Excel! skate punk RIOT now!

  • i like how this person just cant help but express his opinion on st anger is if its a fact. most ppl nowadays just hate on metallica cause its "cool" to do it

  • @LandynCaissie Well I think most musicians hate on Metallica because it's the RIGHT thing to do. But there is no doubt that Metallica is a good band, their fan base proves that.

  • @DimitriVHefley how is it the right thing to do?

  • @LandynCaissie Well first off, they steal music-most notably from Dave Mustaine. Secondly, because they are sell outs.

  • @DimitriVHefley no, james and dave have both used stuff with each other from kill em all, and ave mustaines solos and riffs tend to be more wild and free, meaning they can make sudden turns and spin -offs from the songs melody, James guitar stuff usally stays a bit closer to the melody, they dont steal because they're stuff is usually a bit different. and with kill em all, both bands had rights because both James and Dave worked on it together, they are both entitled to anything from that era

  • @DimitriVHefley and i dont believe they are sell outs, they write all their own lyrics and their music comes from the heart. for load/reload/st. anger they themselves as a band said that metallica is about not doing the same thing over and over again. they didnt change cause a corporate music company gave them more money to change, they did it cause its what they wanted to do, and most fans just dont like that

    sorry for making these responses so long

  • Who the fuck is Excel?

  • @GoJays09 excel is a kick ass crossover thrash metal band! thats who they are!

  • Plagiarism full of alcohool in head and lack of criativity to release a COMER$IAL album in the early 90's.

  • Well, I would certainly agree that if the song by excel was made prior to Enter Sandman then they ripped off the lick.

    I would vote plagiarism on a trial.

  • it doesnt matter who rips off who it matters who makes the most money and who gets famous ask ANY musician and entertainer

  • Death Magnetic is crap.

  • That Excel song sounds more like Slayer or something

  • The songs are in the same key and mode, but they are different.

  • they are two completely different songs and riffs

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  • OMG This song has notes in it! They ripped off everyone's music!

  • @NotATubeSurfer don't be a fanboy. whether they ripped of from excel or not, the songs are strikingly similar.

  • @reydiyohed Actually, I'm not. I never listen to Metallica. Don't be an ass and say things stupid just for the sake of your argument. You know how many songs are probably out there that sound incredibly alike? Loads. I mean what about all the songs that consist of the same 3-4 chords? Aren't all those rips-offs of anything before them? What about all these dropped D bands that play power chords all day, they all sound alike to me...is that plagiarism too?

  • @NotATubeSurfer in this one, 1. the chord progression, 2. the arpeggi playing type, 3. the intro and its transition to the song is really similar.

  • if you play guitar you would notice is not the same... the medoly seems to be like a rip off but... the notes are not the same... just stop folling you don't know bout music faggots!

  • dam that band sounds amazing ....excel

  • This can be traced to an earlier song- "Magnum Opus" by Kansas ("Leftoverture"), back in the 1970s.............. The riff was played in the latter part of the song, at a faster tempo.

  • excel did it better

  • bob rock sucks mediocrity's cock

  • FIRST ... Metallica sucks ... especially live.

  • @treid100182 and i suppose you like slayer

  • First off, some bands sign off this from other bands to use. Second, which one was made first, that my give you something to find out on who copied who. Third, what if one of them signed off on letting the other band use the beat/melody of their song?

  • Absolutely. Just absolutely laughable to say "coincidence/original". A clear ripp off.

  • No, no, no. Its original. Alot of things are original and sound like things that have already been written. Its all NORMAL. SPECIALLY nowadays.

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  • the joke really isn't on metallica though

  • oh hell yes metallica ripped this.

  • stupid shit. just cuz they're the same notes doesnt mean its a rip off.

  • Mustaine wrote a LOT of songs that Metallica used early on. Can't believe Metallica is even being defended. Metallica KNOWS they were thieves.

  • Rip Off!!

  • Your last words in the video are completely bullshit.

  • only similarity is that intro, and that too so simple and catchy that even i could accidently play that, rest whole song is way different, good though.

  • @hunterhearsthelmsy i agree, this whole problem is silly

  • sellouts? what are you 12? get your head out of your ass. selling out is a term used by non musician's that have no clue what the fuck they're talking about. not screaming at you thmf16 just some people in the comments.

  • Not for me, they sound similar yes. Similar songs are bound to come about, artist's "borrow" from other songs. Just imagine how many songs have been written, to find more than a dozen sounding similar will happen. You could probably pull up a blues song that uses this melody

  • METALLICA ARE NOT SELL OUTS DICKHEADS YES LULU IS CRAP BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEIR SELLOUTS

  • @wwejheaton A "sell out" is a band that makes money for its music. Metallica are sell outs. And Lulu isn't by Metallica. Its by Lou Reed & Metallica.

  • what sellout It's in a guys nature to want to fix things. If a musician hears something and thinks that guy almost has something good I could make that great hey why not cuz I sure like the metallica reincarnation of those notes .

  • In any case metallica did it bigger better and meaner which made them the bucks. Bullshit baffles brains. Representaion character and style count for much in the business.

  • @marcthemeatman Oh yeah, being sell outs is so metal....

  • @marcthemeatman "bigger better and meaner" They still stole the song ;)

  • So what,alot of popular songs are rip off songs,just listen to Elimination by OverKill then compare it to Master Of Puppets,and while were at it Free Bird by Skynyrd is one of the most ripped off songs of all time.

  • I can say that back when I was real young and an aspiring guitarist, I wrote a song called gotta get away... and then heard it on the radio a few months later as a lenny kravitz song called fly away... sucked but shyte happens... I don't think he ripped me off, nor did I rip him off... I find a lot of creativity flows similarly given the life you let yourself see, whether in person or on T.V. or even movies... alot of bands now write similar songs all the time and get away with it.

  • It's not ripoff! It's coincidence! The songs sound acrtually pretty different when you think of it, I tried to make Enter Sandman into this other song, and didn't find a way to make it sound the same. It's not a ripoff, or else they just changed it ALOT.

  • yes it is a ripoff

  • it is a rip off and they know it.

  • This song was a whole 'COLLAB' of stolen stuff, the whole intermission with

    the christian prayer before sleep was first used by megadeth in Go To Hell

  • Sigh. Underneath all these 'rip-off' videos in always some simple three or four chord progression. Add in a typical metal rhythm and, of course, a bunch of tracks will end up sounding similar or even the same. When you're talking about a single riff or intro it gets even sillier.

  • not even close to being the same thing

  • Excel > Metallica

  • Similar but nowhere near plagiarism. They're not that close. 

  • The fucked up thing is..the got an award for this song.

  • It's not stolen or ripped off, there's millions of guitarists in the world, a few are bound to make a similar riff

  • @thrashmaster94 notice both intros are mellow and accoustic and then a heavy riff follows..way too similar..just admit it....plagiarism.

  • @ToughestMilkman quite a lot of songs start mellow and clean then go into something heavy, just because these two sound pretty similar it doesn't mean that it's ripped off

  • That album cover is fucking scary

  • It is a rip-off song, it rips off anyone who listens to it because it's one of the worst Metal songs ever made.

  • @ThazuaBlackarrow I write music myself, and I constantly find myself writing things that have already been written, it's bound to happen, certain melodies and chords sound good together.

  • @MCskittle23 But this is a very close match! The years and genres are very close too. And we're not talking about just a couple of notes, it's the entire riff.

  • @immortalperser Great minds think alike I suppose, honestly, in the millions and millions of songs written over the years, the fact that a COUPLE sound similar, isn't very surpising. I mean, the same 4 chords are used in every song, there are only so many melodies that you can come up with that are pleasing to the ear. Sometimes it's even a subconcious thing. Maybe that band had heard that song before, so the melody was familiar to him, that's why he played it.

  • @MCskittle23 Exactly, the same goes with me.

  • @MCskittle23 i get what youre saying about commonly written stuff coming out. but two in one song? i can totally get it like the zeppelin SWTH thing, comon melody, but add in that they toured with the dudes before that, it becomes more than a simple coincidence

  • @macditty you mean they (zep) toured with those blues artists?

  • @cheesydarkside earfarmDOTcom/features/daily-f­eature/monday/1820

  • The inspiration for the enter sandman riff was loud love by Soundgarden, Kirk said so himself.

  • Kirk admitted that the riff was similar to another riff in a year and a half of Metallica. Theres riffs in sanitarium that sound quite similiar to Rush's Tom Sawyer. If you take the G C and D chords, you can play a thousand songs. And actually if you listen to the main riff of Livin after midnight, and then listen to the chorus of Fleetwood Mac's Dont stop thinkin about tomorrow, it is the same chord progression. E D A B.

  • there are billions of people in the world. There are millions of guitarists. Just because these riffs sound nearly exactly the same doesn't mean that kirk hammet (who wrote metallicas riff for enter sandman, the first riff he ever wrote for a metallica song) ever heard this song. Coincedences happen all the time, and even though the chances of winning the lottery are small, people still win it. all these rip off videos on here, go grab a guitar and smash yourself in the face with it!

  • Thats no Coincedince metallica is one of my fav bands but they stole a few megadeth songs and now this

  • @gogin1000 that make you a fanboy

  • @gogin1000 sorry to say man, but megadeth was formed after metallica, so the lil douche dave mustaine prolly ripped it off of them..... they kicked out dave for kirk, cuz kirk was/is better

  • @hellhorse1000 No, they kicked Dave for alcohol/drug addiction and attitude problem. and Dave write parts from Kill 'Em All songs and a little from Ride The Lightning

  • @hellhorse1000 you sound like a typical metallica fan... dont even know what they are talking about when they try to prove a point

  • @gogin1000 if you're referring to kill em all Dave and the rest of metallica wrote those songs together

  • @gogin1000 metallica didnt really steal megadeth songs. when mustaine got kicked out of the band he asked metallica not to use is material but they did anyway. which they more stole from mustaine rather than megadeth

  • @gogin1000 metallica was around before megadeth, mustaine used to be part of metallica therefore technically hes not stealing any riffs that he helped write :L

  • @gogin1000 Metallica stole from megadeth !?!? AHAH, the only stuff you can consider stolen are Jump In Fire, and other things were Dave had an imput when he was in metallica apart from that i would say Megadeth Stole from metallica, go listen to Dread and the fugitive mind from Mega and tell me that intro isnt the same as Holier than Thou just broken down.... Im a Huge Megadeth, and a Huge Metallica fan

  • thmf16  ..... you are an idiot.

  • kik came up with it in a hotel when he was drunk lol

  • Wanna hear something that sounds really the same as enter sandman? im from finland where a band called ''Stone'' has a song called get stoned(released in 1988), which basically has this exactly same riff,so check it out and get amazed :)!its on youtube so just search it.

  • @Vaginaattori: Actually when you look at the songs the way they are played, they are too different to be a straight rip-off. The timing, tempo and feel are alot the same in both songs (Sandman and Get Stoned), but I think that Excel's song has more of that scale used in Sandman. But hey, it's just my opinion.

    Terveisin eräs muukin päänheiluttaja Suomesta.

  • @Monkibomber93 nojoo en soita kitaraa ni en tiiä mite nää soitetaan, mut toi rytmikulku on erittäin samanlainen näissä biiseis. en tosin kyllä usko että metallica ois kopioinu jtn suomalaista thrashii :), mut silti mielenkiintoisia huomioita aina tällaset.

  • @Vaginaattori: Jep, rytmi onkin Stonella samaa, mut tossa Excelin kipaleessa tuntuu menevän enemmän samoilta säveliltä ku Enter Sandman. Ja tosiaan, olisko ollu Soundi missä tota Janne Joutsenniemeä haastateltiin, ja hänen tiedon mukaan heidän debyyttialbuminsa pääty myös Metallican käsiin tolla Amerikankiertueella 80-luvun loppupuolella. Tiedä sitten miten asiat menee, Metallican pojat varmaan koskaan tunnusta jos ovat tuon kopioineet.

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  • it all come down to one thing MONEY!

  • Did you people know that, "Metallica", is actually an ancient word in Sanskrit meaning "Plagiarism". Yup they even ripped the name off.

  • RIP.

  • and they sued napster??? nigga plz

  • Enter sandmans main riff was written by kirk hammett in the ride the lightning days, just so you know

  • Metallica has ripped off everyone in music and now their scheme has failed hence their last 3 bombed out shit album releases

  • i always felt that the 90s girl band "Elastica" was a metallica rip off, there song "Connection" was an instrumentally dumbed down version of enter sandman

  • yeah fuck bob rock, but metallica is quite well known for stealing music, hell they used mustaines music up untill master of puppets, cliff burton was something else though he is an amazing bassist