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  • If Cheryl and Dannii had taken the high road and applauded, I'd have had more respect. I understand why they were upset and it was VERY unprofessional on Jay to say the things he did in the press, but they had the opportunity to show their young fans how you can turn the other cheek and didn't take it.

  • @LiamCharliePoxton What has Cheryl Cole actually sung about that has any meaning or purpose? Jay Kay-1 Cheryl Cole-0

  • funny pop ups!

  • they didnt just snub , jay kay though , they snubbed the whole band , of which consisted of people who had said nothing wrong

  • If Jay has so much integrity why accept a paycheck from something you don't agree with or believe in? He's just as bad as the rest.

  • Jay Voicing what alot of us actually think of THOSE judges! Thet are talentless & just goes to show how a pretty face & a loose fanny can get you in that industry. Bravo Jay! About fucking time coated these twats ;D

  • captions make it for me

  • apparently before jay even sung, they chatted throughout the whole performance and refused to clap and this was before he even said anything. thats just plain rude. who are they to tell a man who has sold 40million records and had more talent in his little finger then those two bints!!

  • I agree with JK on CC and DM, but than again, he's made a living doing karaoke versions of Stevie Wonder etc.

  • @djshelleymack i dont think karaoke versions of stevie wonder can get you the most successful funk album of all time now can it? just because he's not bootsy collins doesnt he cant have the funk

  • at least hes honest

  • what an arrogant dick. regardless of where you think any of them stand talent wise, what he said was plain rude, demeaning and disgusting. god he carried it on as well "the other two"....have some humility and grace and learn their names!

  • @Miv100 i think you'l find they were the ones who were rude talking through his perfomance! get your facts rights!!

  • The truth always speaks so therefore he spoke the truth

  • jay kay is one smooth cunt

  • " Id like to fucking shag you " hahaha, dont we all

  • Did he actually say that stuff? i agree but damn... he must be one cocky arrogant bastard

  • I'm glad Cheryl and Dannii stood up for themselves.

  • Jamiroquai knows more about real music then these garbage shows judges do.

    X factor is some garbage idol competition anyways.

  • Cheryl and Dannii had every right to be offended by what JK said, and yes, Cheryl Cole has had more #1s that Jamiroquai have, but that doesn't stop what he said being 100% right. Completely the wrong way to voice those opinions, but I'm completely with him.

  • @Maidenrugby no she hasnt she's released like two albums of which only that terrible fight for this bollocks got to number 1, jamiroquai had several number ones in the nineties.

  • @Maidenrugby having a no. 1 hit doesn't mean shit nowadays, and cheryl may have more no.1s than jamiroquai, but the band's had more success overall: 40 million albums sold worldwide. let's see cheryl top that :)

  • the guy is an arrogant git, and a hypercryte when he tries to take apart the two ladies when theonly thing he has likely done more is sell more records, so no difference besides JK having an ego of which seems to get him into a lot of shit when he opens his mouth and then lands himself on a show that he cant stand.

  • Cheryl Cole, best known for smacking a toilet cleaner and shagging a footballer. Fucking Geordie pikey.

  • EVEN if Cheryl is a worse singer than Jay Kay...... Shes had many more #1s than you bellend.

  • @NickLiang no she hasnt she's had one number one you fucking gimp

  • @MORGAN1992FREEM4N The only gimp is you, i bet you dont even understand what a gimp is. Shes had 2 number ones, promise this and fight for this love with many other featured tracks hitting number one. Jamiroquai has had 1 in 1998. So get your facts right before opening up your arsehole of a mouth, needle dick.

  • @NickLiang dude they've had several number ones world wide, they dont just rely on a couple of 12 year old girls and 45 year old gays living with their parents in the uk. so check you facts, but of course you dont need to as you're a person of great musical knowledge and depth hence why you listen to cheryle cole...

  • @MORGAN1992FREEM4N Your insulting me about my musical knowledge yet your the one saying the fan base in the UK consists of 12 yr old girls and 45 year old guys. You couldnt contradict yourself more. Considering the fact she was in one of the most successful girl bands and made her mark as a solo artist im not embarassed to say i did enjoy her music. Yes i did mean Cheryl cole has had more number 1s than Jamiroquai in the UK. both being UK artists i think thats one extremely important factor.

  • his highest charting song from his album was at #39 so how can he call them amateurs

  • @arjunaouliks Because they are not very good at what they do. Hence why they are both looking for new jobs and Jamiroquai are on a world tour as they have a global fan base.

    It's not all about the charts. Music should be about performing it live imo and Jamiroquai are one of the best bands at doing that.... Not sure you will watch it, but this is what I mean

    Jamiroquai - If I Like it, I Do It [Rare Live]

  • @arjunaouliks because that album dwarfed the sales of cheryle and dani's albums worldwide and has sold about 35 times the amount of records of both of them combined

  • lol @ Cheryl "Was he as good as me?"

  • cheryl cole is a useless singer, but can you imagine what an awesome shag she'd be...

  • Jamiroquai fucked up.. he could've got a free BANG!

  • I don't care for Jamiroquai's music much it sounds a little try hard and he sure is an arrogant fucker.

    but he does have a nice little arse that I wouldn't mind riding all night long.

  • JKay is a wanker in person but I love the bands music.

  • Haha the speech bubbles are hilarious XD

  • Haven't heard the word 'blanked' in some time.

  • He slagged them off (for publicity) then goes on the show which he claims to despise, to promote his latest shit single. Any other self respecting musician wouldn't go anywhere near X Factor. What a desperate clown.

  • @TheMrbollox No he didn't you idiot, Jay Kay doesn't watch X factor, so he was under the impression he was to be judged after his song (clearly didn't grasp the concept of the show) , the interview that had this article was done in a pub, so one pint to many and that comes out, but he was still right in waht he said, wrong in the way that he said, but the fact was still there.

  • Even if Cheryl Cole can't sing (which she can in my opinion) atleast she has a little respect for other people unlike that cunt. What he said is terrible and anyone who thinks they are better than anyone else and thinks they have the right to say those kind of things about anyone is a cunt. Cheryl and Dannii were right to do what they did.

  • @LiamCharliePoxton I completely agree. He is a wanker.

  • @LiamCharliePoxton exactly! A dick is a dick no matter what industry he's in

  • @LiamCharliePoxton i'm a jamiroquai fan, and i agree with you about jay kay being too harsh even you posted this a few months back. yes, jay kay can be a prick sometimes, but he's a great performer live and singer. i kind of understand what's he saying: to me, cheryl only managed to get where she is now because of the x factor, but i don't agree with what he said about danni tbh. no offence, though i do like cheryl cole myself, imo she's an average singer who got it easy.

  • @LiamCharliePoxton YEAH! Cheryl Cole is so wonderful.. didn't she slap up a nightclub washroom attendant once and called her a nigger? Yeah, she did; she's so nice that Cheryl

  • @LiamCharliePoxton you are first of all a confused idiot living in your own little world if you can call a man a cunt for standing up for the entire "real" music industry, everything he said was correct and fair to those media whores who no cant sing fact. everyone with taste is thinking it he just said and we all feel better for him doing so. thank you jay for telling it how it is, even if the beliebers are upset by it.

  • @LiamCharliePoxton cheryl and dani are money spinning slappers ,with no talent ,all about money making ,this man is a fucking legend , real music , real talent , real opinions , which is rare in a world where everyone is scared shitless of the consequences

  • @LiamCharliePoxton However, I think he's right...he's a real musician working with great musicians, and these kind of TV shows with bimbos only good at showing their asses are horrible, this is an insult to musicians. These girls have no talent, only big boobs, they don't know anything to music.

  • He's right. They are both so lame that you would hardly even call them musicians.

    They are both good looking though. That's about it.

  • Can Danni Minogue sing?

    Can Cheryl Cole sing?

    No, to both. i havent heard much of Danni minogue sing, just because there isnt much about.

    And Cheryl Cole just sounds like she is really straining, unless thats the sound shes after, very grating on the ears...

  • @rorrt Dannii can sing. Search "Dannii Minogue Notre dame de paris." Don't say someone can't sing, when you haven't actually heard them sing, that's just ignorant. Also Dannii has been very successful on the dance circuit and I remember her stuff being very popular in the early 2000.

  • @Android18uk

    Early 2000's...Over 10 years ago! That's way too long ago to judge anyone for being good.

    And to be fair she is singing, not sure how good her voice is theatrically.

    Although i always remember hearing from them both, that Dannii was always supposed to be the singer, and Kylie the actress.

  • @rorrt No it's not too long ago. These type of shows don't hirer big stars who wouldn't even have the time to appear on the show every week. They are hirer people who have experience in the music industry but aren't too busy at the moment. Also Dannii has experience being on talent shows, so she has every reason to be there.

  • @rorrt Whether certain contestants have a "better" voice than her is irrelevant, at the end of the day Danniii and Cheryl have still been more successful pop stars than 98% of the people who have been on the show because it's not all about the voice.

  • @Android18uk

    Chris De Burgh, and Cliff Richard have both had successful careers, doesn't make them good.

    I think to validate that success with a career i think you need at least a half good voice.

    That they both probably do have.

    But oh well..

  • @rorrt /Cliff Richard IS good. Devil Woman is awesome. The New Year thing, and pretty much everything since 1980-odd is shite, I grant you...

  • @SpiritKnob

    To be fair, if you take him on face value. Of making good songs, and singing well.

    I agree with you, he was kinda like a budget, English Elvis Presley.

  • @rorrt "Over 10 years ago! That's way too long ago to judge anyone for being good." are you fucking kidding me? So Metallica, The Beatles, Frank Sinatra, Take That, Elvis, Beethoven, Pulp and David Bowie released songs over 10 years ago so therefore we cant say that they are good? Oh i would love to bore myself looking through your ipod listening to the modern shite they call music.

  • @scooterok1

    I didnt say that they WERE NEVER good, im just saying that like, Bowie, his later music, Reality, or Heathen, i don't believe was very good.

    Nor was any of Michael Jackson's later music, he made 3 GREAT albums, and his work tailed off, and got worse and worse!

    And if an act, was popular 10 years ago, and then stopped making music, for 10 years. Then i don't think you can say they were ever good, and besides...Do you think Dannii has a GREAT!!! UNIQUE, EXITING, FRESH ORIGINAL VOICE?

  • @rorrt Haha for a second i thought you was joking, just trolling me. But then i realised your slightly deluded and extremely wrong. So your saying if an act that was popular 10 years ago and not now, that they were NEVER good? Cool story bro. But your not taking into account of music trends. The fanbase for metal in the 80's was the highest it ever was i believe but tastes in music have changed and people dont like it anymore. In ten years time everybody will be like "Dannii who?"

  • @rorrt another question (i have a previous comment that i dont want you to forget), how old are you cause im refusing to believe your older than the age of 15. And if acts dont make music for over 10 years they arent that good, so what acts do you like out of curiosity? Tell me your top 5 artists please

  • @scooterok1

    by the by I am 20, and at the moment, i would say my 5 favourite artists, or bands are (by the way, this changes, so this is quite general for my tastes): Bad Religion, David Bowie, Radiohead, RATM, and Pulp.

    And my point is more about acts that were once good, and are now bad. Like Adam Ant, or Pet Shop Boys.

    And when acts like Danni Minogue, who made a few singles 10 years ago, and for some reason getting a gig with X Factor, and then continuing to sing.

  • @rorrt But 10 years ago Dannii was off the radar, and pretty much still is. I havent heard anything musically about her for years. But its rare that bands just go bad, its a lot to do with taste. Tom Jones, he still plays the same as he always did but he doesnt have the fans anymore cause people like 'One Direction' and that kind of crap. I LOVE Metallica, but James Hetfield cant sing like he once did in the 80's and in my opinion they died in 1992, but it doesnt mean they were always bad.

  • @scooterok1

    Its rare? Well ive just names Adam Ant, Petshop Boys (though i don't think they were good to start with), Michael Jackson...and they are the ones i can name off the top of my head.

    And Dannii minogue made some singles in the early 2000's, i think i remember hearing that it was supposed to be Kylie being the actress, and Dannii the singer, by the way their early careers looked.

    And Tom Jones has changed loads, i mean he looked dated for years, and made Sex Bomb, around 2000.

  • @rorrt correct, Tom Jones made that song in 2000 but its 2011, so does that mean he was never good in the first place? He Dannii may have been known as the singer and Kylie as the actress but Dannii hadnt brought out a good song until a few years she did xfactor. Look, your theory of if an act doesnt produce in 10 years they were never good. I think thats complete rubbish. Band members die and can never get back on the horse, music taste changes, or simply they prefer to play something different

  • @scooterok1

    Nope, Tom Jones is still good, because he has changed his image, from his very old fashioned "Why oh Why Delilah", and "Whats up pussy cat", to his newer music. And his newest "Praise and Blame" album is great.

    And that doesnt work, because a band has to be good to start with, which i don't believe Dannii ever was, but for bands like The Rolling Stones, they were good, and are still good.

    With a band that has split up or died, when they were good...i use the past tense "were good".

  • @rorrt But thats not what you said. You said acts that havent produced anything good for over 10 years they have to be questioned whether they were any good in the first place. And to answer your previous question whether i think she has a great, fresh, unique voice? No. Its really no my type of music

  • Who is jaramirquai?

  • @norkis2696 Are you joking?! Jay Kay has been around since the early 90's. Was offered an 8 album deal with Sony Music, has the biggest selling Funk Album of all time (Travelling Without Moving) has sold about 30 million albums world wide, won grammys, MTV awards, was credited with creating a new musical genre 'acid jazz funk' and was the fastest driver round the top gear test track, twice ;o) Suggest you watch some of the Jamiroquia vids or there live shows. Hope that helps a little

  • @MrBillyboyroge Acid jazz funk? Can't think why no-one invented that before.

  • @JasonRadley Seems crazy. Although it was done before to be honest.

    Jamiroquai bought it to the masses though. Not sure if your a fan of the band or not. Here's any early live performance to check out though......

    jamiroquai - When You Gonna Learn 1992 live

    (Good Times)

  • @norkis2696 a grammy award winning band with millions of album sales, question is: who are the two slags judging peoples talent anyway?

  • @norkis2696 LMAO a band that has sold 35 Million albums to date and probably has the worlds most famous music video, "Virtual Insanity", it was voted number 1, above Michael Jackson's "Thriller"

  • JK's songs live forever, Cheryl and Dannii? may be a couple years. They should

    go study music to see that JK was right.

  • I watched this and good on Cheryl and Dannii, Jamiroquai got what he deserved for slagging off the two female judges. like Cheryl said ''Don't give out what you can't take back''

  • Well, that occurs when you have 2 dick riders as judges.

  • Jamiroquai is 100% right though. They are both fucking useless

  • @MosherMike  100% Agree with you

  • @MosherMike JAY KAY IS RIGHT!!! U_U

  • @MosherMike yeah but have some fucking consistency and class Jamiroquai. I mean he slags off x factor but yet he's fueling the machine by performing on it. if you believe half the panel to be useless then why bother mix in it all. i agree dannii and cheryl cant sing but atleast with cheryl you can see why she's on the show. I dont see why he was

  • Jay is so right.

    Them 2 are a useless bunch of call girls.

    Some say dani made music? On what planet? never reached my ears.

    How can you have such a popular sister,and suck so much in music;

    that her main earnings don't come from singing, but from acting all good

    on x factor and posing for M&S !

    Woha ha ha ha . And cheryl is a joke, whenever shit happens in her life

    you never hear the end of it in her songs, i mean, the ones she released like last

    year were so like i miss you Cole.

  • He's a has-been...

  • Topsy turvey world we live in -a pair of phoney grasping NO talent ladies who get over because they look pretty,and are the face of OTHER peoples creations, and talent,and they're judging people like JayKay who has more talent in his big toe than the pair of them.People seem to forget music should be judged on what comes out of the speakers - Not what you fucking look like -The quicker X Factor goes, the better.

  • @Funkrocksurfer1971 have you even listened to any of danni's music? i cant speak for cheryl but danni is a very talented singer do some research before saying something you dont know about

  • @got2strpk - Yes i have , as i own a record shop which i've had one for 15 years, and get to hear tons of fantastic music everyday - Not Just phoney,contrived top 40 drivel. Just because you get on television,and look pretty does not mean you have talent. Iv'e heard unbelievable music that the artist has sang on, produced,and played all the instruments on THEMSELVES ,that doesnt get a look in because of not having the right " Image" -Danni's a corparate puppet.- All that glitters AINT gold!

  • @Funkrocksurfer1971 i didnt need you huge speech mmkay i happen to love dannii's music so get over it and stop hating on famous people over the internet its pretty sad thats all people do nowadays

  • "please say hate the wag, love wagner".......omg ROFL!!!! you don't know how funny that is!!!

  • JAY KAY is the man cheryl and dani are washed up no talent slags

  • why did they ignore him?? x

  • @pinkjuicygurls

    cause they think they are too much,

    if they don't have their ass kissed and powdered,

    they won't stay professional, and instead turn to childish bitches.

    U-S-E-L-E-S-S - COCK IN MOUTH TASTY say ''cheryl & danni - WOAHAHA HA HA HA

  • to all the people hating on Dannii, errmmm she CAN sing - and shes uh-maayzing at it too. that guy is a dickheadd,, buh he said one thing right, Dannii is fucking sexy asss.

    aaand if youhhr gonna slag her off,, at least spell her name right. dickheads,

  • @ChelseaSXC101 Maybe address your rant about the spelling of her name to the uploader of the video

  • @MrBillyboyroge yeeh buhh if youhh read the comments soo many other people spell it wrong as well hahaa

  • Jamiroquai are a band! Not an individual

  • People hating on Dannii, learn to spell her name right retards and as for him, what an asshole.

  • @GirlsAloudFan454 THANK YOU! I see that every time. Can people not read? It's Dannii. Not "Dani," or "Danni," or "Danii." And you're right, he is an asshole.

  • @beccaboomhouer ikr! Its so annoying and yeah, I hate people like that x

  • Jamiroquai will always be remembered for his music, his talent and genius (especially live music). Instead Cheryl and Dani ... please, who are these two??

  • Okay well this is what divides up real music lovers and those who watch X-factor and think they know music. If you're in Jamiroquai's corner, you're a real music lover. If you're in Cheryl and Dani's, chances are you have no idea what real good music is.

  • Dude is right. Has always been a cool bloke in my book.

  • hahaha he is totally right!

  • Regardless of lack of respect she should not have been a chav about ut!

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  • He tries to hard to have insulting wit like Liam Gallagher but fails miserably.

  • cheryl and danii were right about this. that fuckin retarded!!

  • @lrcrbjl LOL Jay Kay was 100% correct in what he said, he may not have meant for it to come out like that but he still meant it

  • @lrcrbjl your sentence skills are fucking retarded.

  • This stuff is hilarious!! The dude's right, those two chicks don't know anything about music.Yet they're judges on the show.This guys a proper musician with the record sales to back it.They should take his criticism and use it to 'grow' musically..lol

  • Its becuase he had a go at them both in the papers.

  • he's such a dick

  • lol...sell records, that's what it is all about. Sell, Sell, Sell.

  • Jay kay a true artist nice one he stated a fact or two...good on you...saw him live and he is got to be up there with the best singers hes awesome and his dancing is too

    GET J K ON XFACTOR OR BRIT GOT TALENT JUDGING THE RATINGS WOULD SURELY GO UP NOW DOWN LIKE THEY ARE DOING.....LOL

  • Jay kay a true artist nice one he stated a fact or two...good on you...saw him live and he is got to be up there with the best singers hes awesome and his dancing is too

  • I'll admit that the way he acted was out of order, but when someone (or 2 specific pop stars) tells JayKay how to sing, a man who's been in the music industry for 14, that right 14 years and has had more success over the years than the pair of em put together, if that were YOU, you'd get mad too. Personally what he said is true, They don't know more than JayKay about music, Fuck cheryls only famouse coz she won a competion and Danni's only famouse coz of her sister.

    JAYKAY for PM!!!

  • @JayKaySpliff jay kay one of the all time greats , saw him last week , blew me away so much talent and a right character . legend

  • I'm not a fan of Cheryl Cole, but his comments were disrespectful toward both women. He is entitled to his opinion and has the right to express it, no matter how nasty they are. I just never liked hearing artists bashing other people's craft.

  • well HA. if he thinks they are fucking amateurs, then why perform on their show?

  • @agathayy beacuse he's a tipe of guy,who wants attention!!!DIRK!!

  • @ivanaskateLP for the money, 

  • @nico321 AND THAT!!xD

  • @ivanaskateLP jay kay obviously doesnt want attention or else he would write songs about shaggin women and smoking weed which is what the music industry is nowadays and he would stop making the true legenddary beautiful music that only poeple with good taste and who know real music like,, which is sadlly only a minority of the population as the rest follow what their freinds like (which is what they see on t.v and on music channels), tasteless , untalented bullshit

  • @jamietherooster yes,he does!!!how dont you see that!!!i'm not a fan of that type of music,or them but I or anyone else would never said something about him like he did to cheryl and dannii!!!he should do what he's probably good at,and that's ,music!!not talking shit to people!!:)

  • @ivanaskateLP he was asked in a interview , it was his 10th interview that day he was pissed off and just said it , but even so if there is something wrong in the world . we need people with balls to stand up and speak against it like he did .because what they do and what theystand for is totally wrong ,hes not looking for attention , he is speaking his mind , he doesnt need attention , hes sold 25 millions albums , has about 50 million in the bank.hes in it for his love for music

  • @ivanaskateLP if he wanted attention . he would sell his soul and talent for that of the music industries needs like all the other wannabee wankers (cheryl and danni) have done . he would start singing about shaggin sluts and driving a hummer . he just spoke the truth , sadly people cant come to terms with that and stick up for the one they feel "sorry" for and become brainwashed by shows like this to become a governenment puppet

  • @jamietherooster i didnt heard any song of cheryl and dannii where they're singing about shaggin sluts and driving a hummer,but ok!!!and i have respect to all kind of singers,including them!!and a normal human being,singer of a famous band...should have that respect!!!!

  • Regardless how good he is it showed lack of class to make such comments. Put yourself in the girls shoes if he said shit like that about you. You would not give him the time a day either. I think the girls responded appropriately. He was a guest and they were not there to judge him so his remarks were uncalled for. If he thinks so lowly of them as "amateurs" what is his opinion of the "amateurs" that buys his music. He is a pompous ass in my book

  • @BigStev44 they responded like little children .there are millions of retarted little sheep who copy what they see the "girls do" and think the sun shines out of their ass . the way they acted was so childish and unproffesional but then again what should we expect from modern stars , their mostly all rude , stupid wankers you also forget jamiroquai is and never has been a one man band , they all work together and by not clapping they are disrespcting the whole band

  • @jamietherooster I have forgotten nothing. I am very sure the band knew why the girls did not clap and who their disdain was directed. I still think they acted appropriately. I read somebody said he was just speaking his mind which kills me. I call that just having a big mouth. Those girls were not there to judge him so his remarks was just him acting like a twat.

  • @BigStev44 the whole morales of the show and the judges are wrong as are alot of things in life nowadays , and most people dont see it because i feel they just get led down a one way street and dont have a big enough brain to see it.and i like the fact there are people out there who are clever enough to see it and who are not afriad of peoples reaction when they do something .which too many people are. they fail to express theirselves because they are frightened of others reaction.

  • @jamietherooster I never heard of Xfactor till I saw it on Utube. I only watched it because the weirdos made me laugh. Simon is the only person I knew because of Idol. In the USA Danni and Cheryl are relatively unknown. I utubed both their music and I'm not impressed. Cheryl reminds me of Brittney Spears, can't really sing but hot and everybody wants to bone her. Xfactor is just entertainment and people take it to seriously. As a man I think Jaykay acted like a twat no matter his immense talent.

  • He was a bit stupid to insult the show and the judges before he was about to appear on it. You don't do that unless you're looking to have an awkward moment in front of hundreds of thousands of people!

  • Doesn't matter who they are, he was rude and egotistical. He thinks hes too good for the show, well I'd say, now, the shows too good for you. You are only as good as your last album - mediocre.

  • oh my god!

  • Ok is anyone said I was a talentless cow, I wouldn't clap for them either. The guy is more talented than them. We know that. They know that. That doesn't change the fact that the guy's a dipshit fro saying it.

    Oh yeah and Jay Kay, if you don't like playing for amateurs the wtf are you doing playing gigs at all cos the general public are a lot more amateurish about music than they are. Retard. He just wanted some attention. Asswipe

  • @HPislegend248 If I was a legit musician, I wouldn't feel bad about calling out a bunch of lip-syncing hacks. If anyone had the right to do it, its Jay Kay. And telling the truth doesn't make him a dipshit. Besides, it's not like Jay Kay has to go looking for attention, he gets it without trying.

  • @MrSkullbass It doesn't make a difference who you are. If you start going around publicly bad-mouthing someone you're a douche for doing do. If Cheryl was going about attacking people who said nothing to her in the first place, she'd be an asswipe for doing it too. How is going to a tabloid newspaper and saying what he said not attention seeking? If Cheryl did something like that, everyone would be up in arms(and rightly so).

  • @HPislegend248 i don't think Jay Kay went out of his way to go to a tabloid and run his mouth. They obviously asked him what he thought about being on X Factor and he just didn't sugar coat his answer. He's been around long enough to have the right to say what's on his mind.  Let's be honest, it's not like anyone thought Brittany Spears was more than a dancer. She certainly didn't have any real singing talent. If I busted my ass as an artist and earned my stripes the honest way I'd say so...

  • @MrSkullbass Do you honestly think that every single singer who has performed on the X Factor holds Cheryl's music in high esteem? No. Look at Queen. They performed(half of them did anyway), they've earned their stripes. But did they go around bad-mouthing someone just cos they're more talented? No!!! And that's not cos they love Cheryl. Its cos they're not assholes.

  • @HPislegend248 Fair point about queen, but there are a lot of acts out there that will have nothing to do with it. Sting absolutely slated the show and certainly wasn't shy about saying what he felt. And fair play to him. If a young sting walked through the door, cheryl TWEEDY would probably send him home.

  • @autopsysal666 Maybe I wasn't clear enough. Getting into music is a dream come true for so many people. If someone succeeds, more power to them. If they haven't got what it takes, they'll fade in time and we'll move on. But to be hugely successful and to attack people for having the same dream you do, and trying to get it by any means possible, makes you a douche. Elton, Sting, Jay Kay, I don't care who they are. They may be in the public eye but they're still people. Have some respect.

  • @HPislegend248 Why should they have respect for these people. Elton, Sting, all these guys have an abundence of talent, and if a young Sting or Elton were to walk into Cheryls boudour for an audition, they'd be getting ...."I'm sorry pet, I just don't think you've got it". Not cause they havn't got it, but because she is incapable of seeing "it". She is clueless. Remember the point I made about Rolf Harris? Would you hang a Rolf picture in the Louvre? Next to a Da Vinci, or a Van Gouch?

  • @autopsysal666 You should have respect for these people cos they're still people and unless they are offending you in some fashion, you have no reason to disrespect them. If you don't like Cheryl or X Factor, just don't watch. Its that simple. Stop going around having a go at her for no good reason. Is she infringing on you in some way? No. You have a choice. And you're choosing to watch her. That's not her fault. Its yours.

  • @HPislegend248 Cheryl is everywhere! And all this reverence for her, I'm sorry but I can see why it winds people like Jay, Sting and Elton up so much. She is treated like a God. But what has she actually done? In comparison to the others. She won't be around for as long as these guys. Why should I or anyone else respect her. I didn't ask her to be on x factor, a show that I like. Why should I stop watching?

  • @autopsysal666 How is Cheryl everywhere. She's on a tv for 4 months a year, in 20 second advert for Loreal and in trashy mags I wouldn't insult my intelligence by reading anyway. If you don't like her, just don't read the article. Don't you think the God analogy is a little extreme? If there's one person people love to criticize, its Cheryl. That's hardly God-like treatment she's getting.

    Apart from the Gamu debacle and the whole Wagner thing(this was a sucky season for Cheryl), what's so bad?

  • @HPislegend248 Trust me, the 20 second adverts are too much.

  • @autopsysal666 That's why there's mute button.

  • @autopsysal666 And as I already said, Cheryl told Gamu that she needed to get more experience and then come back. she didn't say that she didn't have it. As I already mentioned. Louis said the same thing to Alex Burke. Look at her now.

  • @HPislegend248 She told her to go home. Its all the same. And Louis made a mistake with Alexander. Yeah, maybe she was better for it in the end, but what if she went away and decided to never try again. What if she lost all her confidence? Good on her for coming back, but Louis is a wally. One word. Jedward! Hello

  • @autopsysal666 No, I'm glad he's there. Yeah he's a baaad judge but he's really funny and bitchy. He's hilarious at the auditions. I love his laugh. Plus the whole tiff between him and Simon is hilarious too. What if he hadn't sent Alex home? If she hadn't won, she wouldn't have been able to compete again. Plus there's something about a 15 year old having a music career that disturbs me. The age limit should be 16. When I saw they were lowering it to 12 for American XF I nearly got sick.

  • @HPislegend248 The American version? Wouldn't surprise me if theres babies on there! It will be the English version ...... on steroids!!

  • @HPislegend248 It's not about badmouthing someone because they're more talented, it's about badmouthing someone who's SINGING career was built around everything EXCEPT their singing/writing ability. Jay Kay didn't become a famous singer because he was a hot chick with an overpaid dance choreographer who could lipsync. He's an artist who sings live and writes his own music. If Cheryl wasn't hot she wouldn't be famous and she'd STILL have no real talent.

  • @MrSkullbass And as for the whole hot thing, I'll revert to Chris Brown again. Yeah he can sing, but if he was butt-ugly, fo you think people would be buying his music again and girls would be fawning over him once more, as if the whole incident never happened? No. Trust me. There's way worse things out there than Cheryl. I would much rather listen to Cheryl and her mediocre voice than pay money to stuff the wallet of a man who can sing great but beat a girl within an inch of her life.

  • @HPislegend248 So you wouldn't pay money to see a guy who beat up a woman, but you'd pay to see Cheryl, who also assualted someone, and by your admission, is medeocre, at singing. After all, that is what she is. A singer.

  • @autopsysal666 She gave a woman a black eye when she was drunk. A decade ago. Why in the name of God would you hate on someone for doing something drunk a decade ago? That is totally different to what he did. He beat her beyond recognition, endangered her life and he was stone cold sober and in full control of his actions. How are they the same thing? She may be mediocre at singing but so are Britney and Kylie and they make good music. As i said I don't mind Cheryl's music. i've heard worse

  • @HPislegend248 Oh ok. It was 10 years ago, and she was drunk. That makes it ok then. And thats not who she is because she was drunk when she did it. I knew a bloke who got drunk, and put a bottle into someones face. 14 years ago. And guess what. He's still and arse! Thing is, Cheryl is supposed to be a "National Treasure" now. She can't sing ( I hardly think "I've heard worse" is a compliment ), can't judge, and she is rude to people with real talent. Oh and she beats people up. Great CV

  • @autopsysal666 "She beats people up"? She gave one girl a black eye. That's hardly a pattern. I never said it was OK that she did it. But it was a mistake and she hasn't done it since. If she were a drug addict, any psycholgist would call well and truly clean. Everyone makes mistakes. I've done things I regret now and so has everyone else. Are we supposed to hold people's mistakes against them for ever? if Brown reappeared in 5 years and hasn't hurt anyone since, I'd forgive him too.

  • @HPislegend248 I'd never forgive a man that did that to a woman. Once a wife beater, always a wife beater. End of.

  • @autopsysal666 Maybe I should have phrased it better. People do stupid things and in general they are forgiven eventually. But with people like Brown and Cheryl the phrase "forgive but never forget" fits best. People haven't quite forgiven Brown but they will. But if he laid a hand on another woman again, he's a goner. Same with Cheryl. Its been a decade and she hasn't done anything like that since. So she's forgiven. But if she were to hit a black woman again, she's sunk(and rightly so)

  • @HPislegend248 nah dude hitting a black woman wouldnt mean crap. she married a black man. i dont like the woman as she seems bitchy and total up herself to me. But this idea shes racist is dumb as hell and she can hit another 100 black women wont mean shes racist. racists dont marry an opposite race that would make no sense. Shes clearly not racist even if she used the words she denied she did.

  • @playerhating I know she's not a racist. But plenty of people are stupid enough to think she is and I can tell you here and now that if she ever hits someone again, she's a goner. Cheryl's not that bitchy. In general she doesn't get bitchy until someone has a go at her. Then she gets bitchy. So would I.

  • @HPislegend248 I replied in the first place because people were saying "who the fuck is Jay Kay" and how could he be so rude to these two talented individuals. My point being ..... he can do that. He's Jay Kay.

  • @autopsysal666 It doesn't make a difference to me if Jay or Michael Jackson said. they're still asshole and, talent aside, I'd sooner hang out with Cheryl than them. At least she's nice person.