pro-lifers are only pro-life until the baby is born. after that, the child can go fuck him or herself. when it is unborn, they will defend it with their lives, once it is born, they want to take away welfare assistance to the struggling parent attempting to raise it, they want to send it to war to die, they want it to become a slave for the corporate machine. ironic how the only time that a pro-lifer cares about a person is when it isn't a person yet.
Why aren't you stomping his dumb ass in the concrete?? Why doesn't he quit being a pussy and start through fists instead of squirting you with water!?!?
@IrenaPrude He didn't 'stomp his dumb ass' because unlike many christians, he's not being a hypocrite about being all' prolife' and for protecting human life, but ok with beating the crap out,or killing people who don't agree. That's why. I'm sure You get all happy whenever a prolifer bombs a clinic or the Olympics,shoots Dr.s and police,or burns a stable full of horses alive 'For the Baybees and Gawd'!
@dianalee84 American Protestors are weak. If you are SO committed to the Pro-Choice cause, why aren't you out kicking Anti-Choice/Pro-Life ass? As in beating them with fists, sticks and bottles??
@IrenaPrude I'm prochoice,but unlike many superstitious people,I don't think that by merit of my belief in a long dead Palestinian Jew gives me the right to burn,bomb,beatup,shoot,burn horses,and attack people with impunity because they disagree with me. Having an invizable sky daddy makes people justify the most horrible acts,like bombing clinics,bombing catholic churches by protestants,protestant churches by catholics,flying planes into buildings,Bcoz My sky daddy says it's OK! Praise Gawd!
@denoslack You know that Dr.who's horses were burned alive by a prolifer? I read this So many times on antiabort forums..'Those horses must have been evil and satanic.None of gods creatures would've let a man who does abortions care for them.Those horses were satanic,and were burned alive because they weren't godly' This is the same crap that makes people fly planes into buildings.Christian Taliban. What can we do with people who live in the dark ages?
@IrenaPrude because that would put us on their level. in a country where the government loves to control what other people do with themselves, one can never afford to lose their cool when trying to gain rights. pro-choice people are generally more rational, thus, they do not find the need to engage in violence, such as many pro-lifers.
@IrenaPrude Are you sorry the man with the signs didn't stomp the pastors head into the concrete? Would you be ok with people stomping the superstitious people talking in tongues and waving crucifixes with dead Jews on them outside P.P? I'm going to have to assume you think that's ok.
If someone says they are anti abortion or anti birth control, ask them how they feel about that future child being on the welfare system they despise, or better yet poor and homeless and living a life of crime.
@EyesofNeurosis I would say you should never kill someone because you think they might be poor someday. My mom had me at 16 and we were very poor. Look at me now, we live life large, my wife and I each have new cars, 4000 sf house, best schools. I am glad my mom did not kill me.
@noplannedparenthood Do you understand the very basic fact that we in America today do not have the means of taking care of the children we have? Look, i see your point, i think thrid trimester abortion should be illegal no questions asked, unless mothers health is at serious risk. But the SAME people who are anti abortion, as soon as that child is born, will not give two shits about them. This is the basic hypocrisy when it comes to the whole thing.
@noplannedparenthood you didn't have any birth defects, i presume. your birth did not put your mother's life at risk, i presume. you are basically trying to make other people's choices for them through legislation. a ball of cells in a woman's uterus is not a person. a fetus that has not developed a brain is not a person, the only thing that is a person is a baby that has been fully developed. until then, it is not a person. it's a simple thing, really.
@noplannedparenthood see thats just it..you assume that everyonjje thinks like you do..they dont..news flash..half the people in this country DONT believe its a viable life yet..so who are you to put your judgements and beliefs on people?? especially when you bible thumpers spout so much hatred? in case you did not know,the supreme court already ruled.
@sabreyow It will be over tuned, One of is right and one of is is wrong does not matter what either of us believe. It is either life or it is not and even pro-choice doctors call it life.
I think its life you dont, So I am just guessing here but you would have no problem aborting or killing your own kid right?
@noplannedparenthood The god in the bible is a genocidal killer,who kills people and babies on a mass scale,justifies believers killing babies and pregnant women by it's because they don't beileve in him, thinks stoning women and burning fortune tellers is moral,gets angry and floods the world,killing everyone except a 900 yr old drunk and his family..And you worship that evil immoral murderer? Who condems all non worshippers,no matter how moral&loving to eternal torture?
@noplannedparenthood no, he's saying that if the same kind of choice was faced by men, then there would be many more abortion clinics. he is making the point that many men in washington feel the need to govern women's lives for them.
showing disgusting pictures of "aborted" fetuses isn't assault, but getting a little water in the face is? you're assaulting my right to drive down the road without seeing obscenities.
Call the cops, he just assaulted me! People like you , who call the police for bullshit reasons like this, or burger king gave them the wrong fries should be fined for wasteing police time. You can hear when your calling that your too embarassed to name the 'weapon' your being assaulted with.
@dianalee84 You're just trying to blame us for jerks like that who call the police to stupid incidents. The fact that a cop thinks he can spray vinegar in someone's face and spray them while on public property needs to be taught a lesson. If a gang of protesters and activists were using smoke gernades and flashbangs on public property, then I would do everything I could to make them more peaceful, or if need be, call the cops. But these Pro-Life activists are doing this peacefully, and that
@Amtrak504 If I showed up, outside a church, with very graphic , blownup photos of women dead from illegal abortions, some of them have intestines hanging out of their vaginas, and I was outside a church with those, to protest women dying because they don't have the right to a legal abortion,and I got sprayed with water and called the police,What would you Really think?. 'That poor activist, peacefully showeing photos,So what if they are upsetting children at church,she's 'peacefull' Yea Right!
@noplannedparenthood You would agree with me holding graphic pictures of dead women who'd died having illegal abortions? If you mean that , and actually would let people do that outside Your church..well respect to you for that. Credit where due
@dianalee84 First of all, those pictures were of dead babies killed by LEGAL abortion, second, the activists are showing the truth, something that is too hard for people like you to understand, third, the water had vinegar in it and the pastor also drenched them with a hose and needed to be taught a lesson, fourth, the truth needs to be shown to all, including children.
@Amtrak504 What do you think I don't understand? That embryos/fetuses /babies aren't killed during an abortion? No bodies disputing that. I grewup in NYC. if someone called the cops about being squirted with water..well nobody in NYC would call the cops for that. There's a thing called 'violent crime' that takes precedence. The truth that people like you don't want to understand is that making abortion illegal doesn't stop abortion.It doesn't save fetuses and babies,it maims and kills women.
@Amtrak504 Google it, any links from abortion to breast cancer are negligible. Also, abortion doesn't cause depression. If you think you're doing something wrong, or you're forced into it, maybe, but if you WANT an abortion, no. A lot of that is exaggerated by whackjobs who try to scare women out of abortion. Also, pregnancy can cause depression, too, especially if it's unwanted. I, personally, would be far more traumatized from going through a pregnancy I don't want than from an abortion.
@Amtrak504 Premarital sex is only evil to religious zealots. Also, plenty of married women get abortions. I'm married, and if my pills ever screwed up, I'd get an abortion ASAP. I just don't want children. As for adoption, it's all well and good, but if you don't want to go through a pregnancy, it's awful for anyone to force you to do so. To me, that's no better than rape.
@SpinerFan You would go through pregnancy for 9 months. The baby would lose his entire life. Beethoven was almost aborted because they knew he would have birth defects. His mom decided not to get an abortion, and look what he managed to do despite the birth defects he had.
@dianalee84 How about the +54 billion babies that have died from abortion just in America? Don't you think that at least 1 of them could've done something great? Not just 1, but MANY of them could've led a great life, but abortion got in those babies' way. Anyone who is in favor of abortion being legal is morally wrong and is unintelligent.
@Amtrak504 just like one of those can be the next hitler or a extremly violent psychopath that killed over 9000 peoples. Sorry but this silly argument don't work with me
@Amtrak504 Don't you think just 1 of those aborted could've grown up to be a serial killer? A mass murderer? Timothey McVeigh? Or even worse..An Atheist! Using that arguements stupid. Wouldn't it have great if Hitlers Mom had an abortion? Or every nasty money grabbing huckster TV evangelist that blames the people of Haitis terrible suffering from the country 'Selling itself to the devil' generations before,Too bad Pats Mom didn't abort,so he couldn't bilk the vulnurable from their $.
@Amtrak504 So Barbra Bush, Laura Bush and Nancy Reagans unintelligent? At least Mr NOPlannedParenthood stays away from the personal insults. I totally disagree with anti abortion campainers(except for late term, viable fetuses, I have a problem with those) but I'd never say that everyone who's anti abortion isn't intelligent.I know some on other forums who are very intelligent,and we respect eachother.We don't Agree on most things,some we do.I'd Never say ever antiaborts stupid like you've done
@dianalee84 anyone who agrees with abortion is saying that women should be able to kill the baby if they want to. I'm not trying to dis anyone who is pro-choice, i'm dissing the FACT that they are pro-choice. EVERYONE is equal, including you and I, but I am taking a stand for the humans that ARE equal to us, yet can't take a stand themselves because they are limited to their mother's womb.
@Amtrak504 That's like saying anyone who agrees with the right to bear arms is saying that people should be able to shoot each other if they want to. It's a bad argument. Sometimes a baby is aborted because it's going to die of disease and if left, would probably kill the mother as well. Sure, sometimes it gets misused, but then again so do all rights, like the right to protest in public, for example.
@Amtrak504 You said 'anyone who's in favor of abortion is unintelligent and morally wrong' the 'fact' thing is semantics. Recently a 9 yr old rape victim, pregnant with twins had an abortion.Her mother and Dr.were excommunicated by the RCC for allowing the abortion. What sort of 'morality' would force a 9yr old rape victim to risk her life to give birth? The kind of morality like the Phillipines.The RCC there is anti birthcontrol/abortion, and they have a Huge illegal abortion industry.
@dianalee84 What if you were that girl, you had the abortion, and you found out later that your daughter or son had been cut apart into pieces while still alive?
@Amtrak504 What about people in our secular country who Don't believe that a Jewish Palestinian who was god who fathered himself with a Jewish virgin who made all the dead in Jerusalems graveyards become undead,who also beams himself and a magic soul into a zygote at the moment of conception..What about people like me who Don't believe that happens and are morally ok with a woman taking the morning after pill? I don't believe every zygote at an IVF clinic has a soul beamed into them
@dianalee84 What if you were that girl, you had the abortion, and you found out later that your daughter or son had been cut apart into pieces while still alive?
@Amtrak504 If I was that 9 yr old rape victim,who was pregnant with twins, that my Dr.s and hospital staff All agreed would cause me serious health problems,and they also doubted wether a 9tr old could carry them to anything near viability..Id be very grateful that the Dr.s and hospital workers thought I was more important than the 2 fetuses I was carrying because I was raped.And that my Mom,Dr.s and hospital staff were all willing to be xcommunicated for providing me with an abortion.
@truthdoesnotchange66 Maybe because they didn't want their children being upset by those stupid posters. My brother and sister in law ,along with all the other parents at their kids elementry school had to see anti abort posters like that from superstitious people and it upset the children very much. It's unfair to make children have to see things like that.
@dianalee84 Do you care more about kids having to see dead bodies, or do you care about the fact that more than 60 kids are dismembered and their heads crushed everyday because of abortion? Those signs show people the truth of what abortion does to a human being
Assault! With some water..gee,who grewup a rich white person in suburbia? christians arguing over whos a better christian how funny. i've been assaulted with some water..waste of taxpayer $
@BS3shocker its not about me, its about the 4000 murdered babies that happen every day, the number one cause of death in America is abortion. The Church needs to wake up.
@noplannedparenthood I was about you when you phoned the police 'I've been assaulted' and you were too embarassed to say the rest. Thanks for wasting taxpayers $, and keeping the cops away from real criminals. 'I've been assaulted!' you've never been outside the USA, or a rich,white exsistence,have you?
@noplannedparenthood The church banned abortions is the Phillipines.They have a massive illegal abortion industry, and many women die from unsafe abortion. Poor women die, that is.I imagine you'd see that as a perk.
@dianalee84 People die HERE in America from botched abortions which actually happen often. Also, over 300,000 women have died from abortion linked breast cancer, + depression from realizing what they've done, etc
@Amtrak504 Where did you get those ststs? Those are made up, There's no proven link between breast cancer/abortion/depression. And you're not against abortion because you think it Might be a cause of breast cancer. Get the stats on women in the USA who've died from a legal abortion,I think it's app. 15, out of 4,0000 a day over ten years.
@noplannedparenthood What makes me laugh is ...(I'm guessing here) You're against abortion because you're a christian, and what you've read in the bible..Yes? Abortions legal in Isreal,because of what jews read in the bible too. Same book. Funny that
@noplannedparenthood If you are not against abortion because your a christian, then why the bible quotes and saying the church needs to wake up? Do you think stopping a fertilized egg from implanting is killing a baby?
@noplannedparenthood You'r holdingup bible quotes, and saying the church needs to wake up. There's a thing in our Secual country,called 'seperation of church/state. The same bible that your signs quotes are from is the same bible that makes abortion legal in Isreal.
@noplannedparenthood Is doing anything that interferes with a fertalised egg 'child murder' to you? Is taking the morning after pill 'child murder'...Since killing a 1 year old child is a D.P in some states, would taking the morning after pill be a death sentence if you hadyour way?
@noplannedparenthood There's only been 1 country that ever made abortion illegal,and prosecuted women for having illegal abortions.(the few places in the world now that don't have legal abortion, never prosecute the large number of women for having illegal ones)if you want to see what'd happen if your wishes canme true, google 'Cighid,1989,1990. That's what you want to happen.
@noplannedparenthood Here's a question I've always wanted to ask. Would you pro-lifers be willing to pay more taxes? I ask this because most of the time, the mother cannot afford to have the baby. Thus would you be willing to pay more taxes to help her support the baby? And if the woman decides to put the baby up for adoption, would you be willing to pay to support the baby?
@kimanyv Most antiaborts ' are republican voting fundies. They don't care how many non white people they kill in other parts of the world, only fetusesin the USA upset them.Being republicans, they don't want to pay more taxes.
@dianalee84 Were do you get that number from, I googled it and its more like 130,000 but so what, does that mean we should kill more kids? why dont you just kill the 130,000 and by your standard we dont have a problem at all.
@noplannedparenthood I notice that you skipped over my question. Could you answer it please? I'll repeat it again: Would you prolifers be willing to pay more taxes to support the baby?
@kimanyv Yes I would be, I dont think killing babies is the answer to the problem. You cant stop evil people from killing people even babies but I feel that it is up to all of us to do what is right to help save these kids. I pay over 50% in taxes now, have 5 adopted brothers and sisters, we have adopted and would be willing to take any baby a mom would give us. So if you are thinking about killing your baby let me know I will take it.
@noplannedparenthood Also good. Now, just another question. Before abortion was legal, many women, in an effort to remove the fetus, would either try doing it themselves with a coat hanger or with someone who was not medically certified to do it. This was dangerous and could kill the woman involved. If abortion was made illegal, how do you propose we prevent this from happening?
@kimanyv We can not make murder legal to make is safer for the murderer. Just like we we should not make it legal to kill black people so white people do not have to go to jail after killing someone. Yes it used to be legal to kill a black man or beat your wife or kill a Jew. All these things were legal. Killing a baby is the same thing. KILLING BABIES IS WRONG.
@noplannedparenthood I see where you're coming at, however I don't think that's a fair comparison. Legalizing murder would end up endangering the murderer even more since it is totally legal to straight up kill him no questions asked. But that's a topic that's long and annoying and will leave the both of us pissed at each other. Next question, would you be willing to provide easy access to contraceptives to prevent unwanted pregnancies from happening?
@kimanyv how much easier can contraceptives be to a hold of, they give condoms out at jr high schools and if you cant afford a condom should you really be having sex?
I personally hate the pill, look at how bad it is for you, just read what it does to your body. I got fixed after I was done having kids so my wife would not have to deal with that. Sex is one of my favorite things in the whole world but I really think you should wait till you can afford a condom.
So far you seem pretty logical. That's good. Next question: At what point in the reproductive cycle do you consider the baby to be formed? As in, when does the baby become a baby?
@kimanyv If poor people want a condom they are often get them for free but cost as little as .20 cents each. I have to say that the beginning is at conception. The word conception means "the state of being conceived" the beginning. So to answer your question it has to be at the beginning and not after the beginning and not before the beginning. One more thing to think about at conception if not aborted the baby will always be a baby until it is a young adult, it never becomes a dog or..
@kimanyv Yep that is the beginning of life. There is a tremendous consensus in the scientific community about when life begins. According to this elementary definition of life, life begins at fertilization, when a sperm unites with an oocyte. You can ask any doctor and he will tall you that you are pregnant as soon as you have a fertilization egg.
@kimanyv no that would not, you said it yourself "before" thats like if I was going to kill you but before I did it I changed my mind. Did I kill you no I stopped before I did it.
@noplannedparenthood If your walking and there's water on the road and a car slashes you do you call the cops? Go protest at churches at gawd when it's raining and you get wet? Assaulted, you wimpy waster of police time,you should be fined for that.
@noplannedparenthood I'm a white person like you are,but the 'spraying people with a water hose arrested 10 mins ect' ..You've grown in a white wealthy suburban exsistance,haven't you? Spraying people with anything but lead was pretty much what it took to get the cops to showup where I came from.
@noplannedparenthood I work in SE Asia sometimes,there's a festival in Thailand where everyone gets on the street and throws buckets of water,sprays hoses and water pistols,everyone joins in and everyone gets soaked. It's alot of fun! You might not like it, however.
@dianalee84 "Your" does NOT mean "you are". "Your" is a second-person, possessive pronoun showing ownership, as in "Your pizza is here." If you mean "you are", keep the "e", change the "a" to an APOSTROPHE, and drop the blank after "u". It's called a contraction as in "You're walking and there's water on the road."
@dianalee84 Wotan/Wodn/Odin is one of many cultures' deities the myths of whom include an element of self-sacrifice. Unlike that of Jesus Christ, however, Odin's ordeal was for his sole benefit, not the world's soul benefit, LOL. It is said that He hung on the Yggdrasil tree for a week and two days, or "Nights All Nine",
Odin's Sacrifice was to gain the Runes whereas Jesus called Himself the "Tree of Life" and when Greeks began to become Christian their myth of the Caduceus merged with the bronze "healing" snake of the Old Testament. This is the basis of the healing snake on EMS ambulances.
@noplannedparenthood So you'd have a woman go to jail for life,or get the Death Penalty for useing the morning after pill. That's your ideal world, a woman kills her zygote and gets the death penalty. Your a Nice Man! Calls the police and candyass crys 'ASSAULT' when hit with water, and would have zygote killingwomen get the Death Penalty.
@noplannedparenthood You want women (who you say are 'wonderful' ) to get a lifesentence or the death penalty for killing a zygote??? I bet you vot repub, and supportted the Iraq war. Lots of dead babys, women,men, American service people dying There every day,Where's the protest for them? 4USA kids are killed by abuse EVERY day by a parent/carer, where's the out rage for Them?
@noplannedparenthood I've seen graphic photos of women who died from illegal abortions. Would it be ok with you to have the children of Your family seeing a dead womans photo, with her intestines hanging out of her vagina outside Your church?
@noplannedparenthood You'd be willing to take in a 'baby' but most of the children in fostercare/ needing to be adopted aren't cute perfect white babies. They're children, many with serious health/social problems. They get sent to abusive fostercare homes, and desperatly need love and a family, but since they aren't perfect babies people don't want them :(
@noplannedparenthood You think women who have abortions are evil, I think superstious people who'd make a women who wants an abortion have to have a back ally abortion and risk her life are evil. Stopping legal abortion doesn't stop abortion.Countries without legal abortion have some of the highest abortion rates in the world. All you want to do is make women without $ suffer.
People who force a woman and her mate to bring to life one fertilized egg force a different viable egg to die. Women who have needed an abortion who then have babies wold not have been able to have those same babies if the other fertilizations were forced on them. Each egg is different. Appeasing religious zealots who think they know better than a woman and her mate about their own future children is an outrageous invasion of privacy and a form of slavery.
@noplannedparenthood The vast majority of abortions are performed LONG before 8 months, during the first trimester. At that stage it is not a baby or an "unborn child". I can't believe you see women as nothing more than incubators.
@SpinerFan You are wrong they are babies, and I do not see women as incubators, i see them as the wonder of the world to be loved and cared for. Mothers that kill their kids are sick and need help and forgiveness. google a baby at 7 weeks and look at it, it is a baby.
@noplannedparenthood Women are the 'Wonders of the World' but if they abort? Send those 'Wonders' to jail for Life! Ha ha You people are confused! No wonder abortions still legal!
@noplannedparenthood So if abortion was no longer legal, and a young woman had an unwanted pregnancy,and got some RU486 online(many women do)and aborted her 5 week old fetus,You'd want her to spend her life in jail,or get the death penalty. And thats your idea of 'forgiveness'?
@dianalee84 Forgiveness comes when you realize what you did and you are sorry and ask for forgiveness. Someone who killed their child can get forgiveness. Does not mean they did not commit murder and pay the price, what ever the price may be. You dont think that baby is a person so she should not be punished but what if she killed a 1 year old, what should happen then? It is the same thing. No matter what she is a murderer of children. sad to say but true.
@noplannedparenthood So a woman who takes the morning after pill is a 'murderer of children' that's lovely. A one year old isn't living in another persons body. The fact of human gestation is that's it's not a short duration,like most higher mammels,and gives the woman time to abort a pregnancy.Complain to the maker if you don't like that fact. If there was a fire at an IVF clinic, which would you save first,a 1 yr old child, or a petrie dish with 100 zygote 'people'?You'd save the dish?
@noplannedparenthood i imagine you believe that anything that interferes with a zygote after conception is akin to killing a child.So you'd have women lockedup in jail for life if they took the morning after pill? Or sentenced to Death?
@noplannedparenthood Why aren't you protesting at IVF clinics? More 'babies' are killed there than in abortion clinics. if somebody who works in one slips and drops a plate full..itd be mass murder!!!
good thing I wasn't there, if that pastor sprayed me with a hose, he would have taken a ride in the ambulance, while I take one in the cop car to the jail
@Catholic00012 This cop Officer Jon Hixson a dad, husband and Christian is a perfect example of the church today. I believe he like most Christians do not care if 4000 abortions happen every day in America. Does not care if babies are being killed every day in his own town. Jon is a cop sworn to protect and yet little to nothing is being done to protect these kids and Jon's church lies about what they do. The church in general does almost nothing about this issue.
@noplannedparenthood personally I would not fight back, that officer ended up paying a big price and still does. It was nice to see a christian with some blood in his veins, most Christians are already dead.
@noplannedparenthood Your fully aware that filming women and putting their details out in public when they go to their Private Dr.s appointments leads to them being stalked and their children threatened.We Al know this.How would You like to be filmed coming out of church on Sunday, by people with 'Down with Infidels' posters,who film You and Your car plates, and post them on anti christian websites, that are known for causing idiots who see it to go find the people filmed, and kill,stalk them?
@dianalee84 Ah no, they are not being stocked. The only kids that are in danger are the ones in the moms bellies because the law does not protect them. A mom can kill her child all good?
@noplannedparenthood 4 children are killed in the USA every day, from abuse by a parent or carer. Yet you cry over fetuses. And you want women to have painful,unsafe abortions and you act like it's the end of the world to be sprayed with some Water.
The protesters are showing people what abortion does to children. It kills them by mutilating them, taking their body out of the womb, and disposing of the body. Anyone who doesn't stand up AGAINST abortion is lukewarm, and God promised He would dispose of you
I'm so sick of seeing anti-abortion posters everywhere there is nothing wrong with abortions its sad but a lot of people can't keep their children its their choice to make not yours get over yourselves the arrogance is unbearably frustrating.
@hocko96 When people cant keep their dog they give it up for adoption but when people dont want to keep their kid they kill it? and thats ok with you right? At some point you have to know it is murder. 4000 a day and even the church does not care.
@Amtrak504 Idont think so, very few Christians or Catholics care, half the abortions are by christian and catholic parents. I even know planned parent hood directors who go to christian churches. The church needs to wake up. Even those that are pro-life do almost nothing about it. Their is no difference between a pro-life church and a pro-choice church. Just a name thats it. oh maybe they sell cup cakes for life or walk for life so what If we were killing black people we would not sell cup cake
@noplannedparenthood yeah, that's sad that a lot of people, people high up too, are so lukewarm. They don't give a hoot about the killing of innocent lives
@yomommasindahouse I know a lady that happened to and she had an abortion and still to this day it bothers her. The only with worse than Rape by a relative that causes a pregnancy is adding killing the baby to the list. What if the baby was born would it be ok to kill it say when it was 5 years old? when is it ok to kill a child?
@noplannedparenthood Yes, some people do feel regret for having an abortion. That doesn't mean everyone does. Using her personal experience as a justification for making sure nobody else can get an abortion is retarded.
Abortions are only performed in the womb, usualyl before the 3rd trimester. After that, it's only done in emergencies (to save the mother's life). Once it's out, it's an individual, and killing it WOULD BE murder. It's not that hard to grasp.
@DeadFishFactory it would not be hard to grasp if it was not a baby, have you see a first or second trimester baby? I hate to shatter your logic but its a baby, so you have justified when its ok to kill a baby and when its not. Oh and retarded people do not like it when you use that word to scorn someone. its not very nice. they hear it all the time, i guess you dont care because you would of just aborted them right.
@noplannedparenthood You can call it whatever you want. The fact of the matter is that up until the third trimester, it CANNOT feel pain because the nerves are not connected to the brain yet.
I'm not advocating that women should abort babies all the time. I'm saying that women should have the choice to. Somehow, I'm thinking that you think abortion is fun for women. You probably women intentionally get pregnant to get abortions or some sick shit like that.
@noplannedparenthood I just don't agree,I'm sorry. Too many things could be wron with the baby since it is incest. Plus,try explaining to your child one day who the Father is.
@hocko96 If people treated their babies better than they treated their dogs that would be a start. When someone cant keep their dog they at least put it up for adoption. They dont kill it. Abortion is the killing of your own baby. I dont know why its so hard to say. Its not abortion, its not a choice its killing your baby. So say it like it is. " a lot of people can't keep their babies so they kill them.
People don't have to carry a dog in their bodies for 9 months, suffer the physical ails of pregnancy, and risk death giving birth to them. Live babies are never killed when their parents can't take care of them. Compare a dog to a live baby if you want, but not a fetus which is biologically dependent on its mother.
And goddamned Google Chrome's spellchecker is rubbish... "euthanize" is a word but "euthanized" isn't. Brilliant.
@noplannedparenthood Who are you to tell a mother what to do with THEIR BABY? With THEIR BODY? With THEIR MIND? You may not like it, neither do I, but what RIGHT do YOU HAVE to TAKE AWAY SOMEONE ELSE'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE!? How does it feel to be to the right of Genghis Khan? You sick wannabe DICTATOR!
@NirvanaKid1000 No, I dont feel its ok to kill infants. It was once legal to kill black men, it was once legal to kill Jews. It was never ok to do so. It is never ok to kill a baby no matter how uncaring a mother is.
Do you think that by showing sorrowful pictures you might be reminding those who have lost their babies? So you set up signs outside of a church to attempt to turn people in the community away from this church? And yelling out accusing things to those who pass by shows your not right.
@Nueroactive what do you think an abortion is? Do you think they put a pink ribbon on the baby and dress it up with cute little clothes and send it away to another planet? I mean..that is abortion..they KILL him/her and in case you didn't know killing isn't something pretty to look at. Why does it bother you to see the pics if it's not a bad thing? if it's not killing a human being then those pictures wouldn't bother you. If you don't feel any sympathy or remorse then it proves you have no heart
That man getting sprayed looks like he sins with gluttony. Then also I understand the pastor point of view because he doesn't want this associated with his church,
Bunch of men standing out there, of course. These fuckwads need their dicks ripped off. You WILL NOT tell me what to do with my body or you WILL die. You got that? IS THAT FUCKING SIMPLE ENOUGH FOR YOU DICKFUCKS TO UNDERSTAND???
@TFYFWYA why do you have so much hatred? Are you really that miserable? WOW. You need a LOT OF HELP! And you're also very scary. Nobody told your sorry ass to come and comment on this video. By the way you write I can already tell what kind of freak you are. "You will not tell me what to do with my body or you will die". Somebody needs to report you to the police! Not all there...not all there at all!
So you think it's OK that one person should control another persons body?
And why SHUOLDN'T a person who believes something that evil be killed, hmmm? You fucking shitstain. You and your kind will learn the lesson one way or another. Women's bodies belong to women.
pro-lifers are only pro-life until the baby is born. after that, the child can go fuck him or herself. when it is unborn, they will defend it with their lives, once it is born, they want to take away welfare assistance to the struggling parent attempting to raise it, they want to send it to war to die, they want it to become a slave for the corporate machine. ironic how the only time that a pro-lifer cares about a person is when it isn't a person yet.
ledzeppelinrools 49 minutes ago
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bloucou 7 hours ago
haha what a punk bitch its just water, oh no, you might melt
patrickpapka 2 days ago
Why aren't you stomping his dumb ass in the concrete?? Why doesn't he quit being a pussy and start through fists instead of squirting you with water!?!?
IrenaPrude 3 days ago
@IrenaPrude He didn't 'stomp his dumb ass' because unlike many christians, he's not being a hypocrite about being all' prolife' and for protecting human life, but ok with beating the crap out,or killing people who don't agree. That's why. I'm sure You get all happy whenever a prolifer bombs a clinic or the Olympics,shoots Dr.s and police,or burns a stable full of horses alive 'For the Baybees and Gawd'!
dianalee84 2 days ago
@dianalee84 American Protestors are weak. If you are SO committed to the Pro-Choice cause, why aren't you out kicking Anti-Choice/Pro-Life ass? As in beating them with fists, sticks and bottles??
IrenaPrude 2 days ago
@IrenaPrude I'm prochoice,but unlike many superstitious people,I don't think that by merit of my belief in a long dead Palestinian Jew gives me the right to burn,bomb,beatup,shoot,burn horses,and attack people with impunity because they disagree with me. Having an invizable sky daddy makes people justify the most horrible acts,like bombing clinics,bombing catholic churches by protestants,protestant churches by catholics,flying planes into buildings,Bcoz My sky daddy says it's OK! Praise Gawd!
BS3shocker 23 hours ago
@IrenaPrude Because the Pro-Choice people aren't insane. They don't kill doctors and firebomb businesses which have contrary viewpoints.
denoslack 22 hours ago
@denoslack You know that Dr.who's horses were burned alive by a prolifer? I read this So many times on antiabort forums..'Those horses must have been evil and satanic.None of gods creatures would've let a man who does abortions care for them.Those horses were satanic,and were burned alive because they weren't godly' This is the same crap that makes people fly planes into buildings.Christian Taliban. What can we do with people who live in the dark ages?
dianalee84 8 hours ago
@IrenaPrude because that would put us on their level. in a country where the government loves to control what other people do with themselves, one can never afford to lose their cool when trying to gain rights. pro-choice people are generally more rational, thus, they do not find the need to engage in violence, such as many pro-lifers.
ledzeppelinrools 47 minutes ago
@dianalee84 You are an asshole.
IrenaPrude 23 hours ago
@IrenaPrude Are you sorry the man with the signs didn't stomp the pastors head into the concrete? Would you be ok with people stomping the superstitious people talking in tongues and waving crucifixes with dead Jews on them outside P.P? I'm going to have to assume you think that's ok.
BS3shocker 23 hours ago
haha you deserve it why dont you save kids in africa
AeroDynamicMKW 4 days ago
If someone says they are anti abortion or anti birth control, ask them how they feel about that future child being on the welfare system they despise, or better yet poor and homeless and living a life of crime.
EyesofNeurosis 4 days ago
@EyesofNeurosis I would say you should never kill someone because you think they might be poor someday. My mom had me at 16 and we were very poor. Look at me now, we live life large, my wife and I each have new cars, 4000 sf house, best schools. I am glad my mom did not kill me.
noplannedparenthood 4 days ago 2
@noplannedparenthood Do you understand the very basic fact that we in America today do not have the means of taking care of the children we have? Look, i see your point, i think thrid trimester abortion should be illegal no questions asked, unless mothers health is at serious risk. But the SAME people who are anti abortion, as soon as that child is born, will not give two shits about them. This is the basic hypocrisy when it comes to the whole thing.
EyesofNeurosis 4 days ago
@noplannedparenthood you didn't have any birth defects, i presume. your birth did not put your mother's life at risk, i presume. you are basically trying to make other people's choices for them through legislation. a ball of cells in a woman's uterus is not a person. a fetus that has not developed a brain is not a person, the only thing that is a person is a baby that has been fully developed. until then, it is not a person. it's a simple thing, really.
ledzeppelinrools 53 minutes ago
this is all bullshit.if men could get pregnant,there would be more abortion clinics than 7-11's
sabreyow 5 days ago 2
@sabreyow So you think men have a easier time killing their own kids than Ladies do ?
noplannedparenthood 5 days ago
@noplannedparenthood men have a easier time killing EVERYTHING than women do..please..
sabreyow 5 days ago
@noplannedparenthood see thats just it..you assume that everyonjje thinks like you do..they dont..news flash..half the people in this country DONT believe its a viable life yet..so who are you to put your judgements and beliefs on people?? especially when you bible thumpers spout so much hatred? in case you did not know,the supreme court already ruled.
sabreyow 5 days ago
@sabreyow It will be over tuned, One of is right and one of is is wrong does not matter what either of us believe. It is either life or it is not and even pro-choice doctors call it life.
I think its life you dont, So I am just guessing here but you would have no problem aborting or killing your own kid right?
noplannedparenthood 5 days ago
@noplannedparenthood The god in the bible is a genocidal killer,who kills people and babies on a mass scale,justifies believers killing babies and pregnant women by it's because they don't beileve in him, thinks stoning women and burning fortune tellers is moral,gets angry and floods the world,killing everyone except a 900 yr old drunk and his family..And you worship that evil immoral murderer? Who condems all non worshippers,no matter how moral&loving to eternal torture?
BS3shocker 23 hours ago
@noplannedparenthood You should have been aborted. I'm going to find your wife and kick her in the stomach.
indiereplicant 1 day ago
@noplannedparenthood no, he's saying that if the same kind of choice was faced by men, then there would be many more abortion clinics. he is making the point that many men in washington feel the need to govern women's lives for them.
ledzeppelinrools 52 minutes ago
showing disgusting pictures of "aborted" fetuses isn't assault, but getting a little water in the face is? you're assaulting my right to drive down the road without seeing obscenities.
brightstripes420 6 days ago
why do men want to control a women s vagina? when u can have a baby and STAY and raise it, then u can talk, until then, shut up!!!
gmcz73 1 week ago
@gmcz73 There are more women involved in the Right to Life than men. Many of whom have had an abortion and regret it.
Amtrak504 1 week ago
@Amtrak504 I'm sure there's women who regret having abortions.Is that reason enough to stop the other 55 million women a year who want one?
dianalee84 1 week ago
@gmcz73 just as many women are involved with this than men
Amtrak504 1 week ago
Call the cops, he just assaulted me! People like you , who call the police for bullshit reasons like this, or burger king gave them the wrong fries should be fined for wasteing police time. You can hear when your calling that your too embarassed to name the 'weapon' your being assaulted with.
dianalee84 1 week ago
@dianalee84 You're just trying to blame us for jerks like that who call the police to stupid incidents. The fact that a cop thinks he can spray vinegar in someone's face and spray them while on public property needs to be taught a lesson. If a gang of protesters and activists were using smoke gernades and flashbangs on public property, then I would do everything I could to make them more peaceful, or if need be, call the cops. But these Pro-Life activists are doing this peacefully, and that
Amtrak504 1 week ago
@Amtrak504 If I showed up, outside a church, with very graphic , blownup photos of women dead from illegal abortions, some of them have intestines hanging out of their vaginas, and I was outside a church with those, to protest women dying because they don't have the right to a legal abortion,and I got sprayed with water and called the police,What would you Really think?. 'That poor activist, peacefully showeing photos,So what if they are upsetting children at church,she's 'peacefull' Yea Right!
dianalee84 1 week ago
@dianalee84 You would be within your right and your rights should not be stepped on.
noplannedparenthood 1 week ago
@noplannedparenthood You would agree with me holding graphic pictures of dead women who'd died having illegal abortions? If you mean that , and actually would let people do that outside Your church..well respect to you for that. Credit where due
dianalee84 1 week ago
@dianalee84 First of all, those pictures were of dead babies killed by LEGAL abortion, second, the activists are showing the truth, something that is too hard for people like you to understand, third, the water had vinegar in it and the pastor also drenched them with a hose and needed to be taught a lesson, fourth, the truth needs to be shown to all, including children.
Amtrak504 1 week ago
@Amtrak504 What do you think I don't understand? That embryos/fetuses /babies aren't killed during an abortion? No bodies disputing that. I grewup in NYC. if someone called the cops about being squirted with water..well nobody in NYC would call the cops for that. There's a thing called 'violent crime' that takes precedence. The truth that people like you don't want to understand is that making abortion illegal doesn't stop abortion.It doesn't save fetuses and babies,it maims and kills women.
dianalee84 1 week ago
@Amtrak504 Google it, any links from abortion to breast cancer are negligible. Also, abortion doesn't cause depression. If you think you're doing something wrong, or you're forced into it, maybe, but if you WANT an abortion, no. A lot of that is exaggerated by whackjobs who try to scare women out of abortion. Also, pregnancy can cause depression, too, especially if it's unwanted. I, personally, would be far more traumatized from going through a pregnancy I don't want than from an abortion.
SpinerFan 1 week ago
@SpinerFan have you done both? your just guessing right?
noplannedparenthood 1 week ago
@SpinerFan Hey, good to see you here! I appreciate the company, the zealotness here can be overwhelming.
dianalee84 1 week ago
@SpinerFan It does, I know people who've had abortions and they regret it
Amtrak504 1 week ago
@Amtrak504 Premarital sex is only evil to religious zealots. Also, plenty of married women get abortions. I'm married, and if my pills ever screwed up, I'd get an abortion ASAP. I just don't want children. As for adoption, it's all well and good, but if you don't want to go through a pregnancy, it's awful for anyone to force you to do so. To me, that's no better than rape.
SpinerFan 1 week ago
@SpinerFan You would go through pregnancy for 9 months. The baby would lose his entire life. Beethoven was almost aborted because they knew he would have birth defects. His mom decided not to get an abortion, and look what he managed to do despite the birth defects he had.
Amtrak504 1 week ago
@Amtrak504 Beetovans Mom choose to have him,good for her.
dianalee84 1 week ago
@dianalee84 How about the +54 billion babies that have died from abortion just in America? Don't you think that at least 1 of them could've done something great? Not just 1, but MANY of them could've led a great life, but abortion got in those babies' way. Anyone who is in favor of abortion being legal is morally wrong and is unintelligent.
Amtrak504 1 week ago
@Amtrak504 just like one of those can be the next hitler or a extremly violent psychopath that killed over 9000 peoples. Sorry but this silly argument don't work with me
bobipineman 1 week ago
@Amtrak504 Don't you think just 1 of those aborted could've grown up to be a serial killer? A mass murderer? Timothey McVeigh? Or even worse..An Atheist! Using that arguements stupid. Wouldn't it have great if Hitlers Mom had an abortion? Or every nasty money grabbing huckster TV evangelist that blames the people of Haitis terrible suffering from the country 'Selling itself to the devil' generations before,Too bad Pats Mom didn't abort,so he couldn't bilk the vulnurable from their $.
dianalee84 1 week ago
@Amtrak504 So Barbra Bush, Laura Bush and Nancy Reagans unintelligent? At least Mr NOPlannedParenthood stays away from the personal insults. I totally disagree with anti abortion campainers(except for late term, viable fetuses, I have a problem with those) but I'd never say that everyone who's anti abortion isn't intelligent.I know some on other forums who are very intelligent,and we respect eachother.We don't Agree on most things,some we do.I'd Never say ever antiaborts stupid like you've done
dianalee84 1 week ago
@dianalee84 anyone who agrees with abortion is saying that women should be able to kill the baby if they want to. I'm not trying to dis anyone who is pro-choice, i'm dissing the FACT that they are pro-choice. EVERYONE is equal, including you and I, but I am taking a stand for the humans that ARE equal to us, yet can't take a stand themselves because they are limited to their mother's womb.
Amtrak504 6 days ago
@Amtrak504 That's like saying anyone who agrees with the right to bear arms is saying that people should be able to shoot each other if they want to. It's a bad argument. Sometimes a baby is aborted because it's going to die of disease and if left, would probably kill the mother as well. Sure, sometimes it gets misused, but then again so do all rights, like the right to protest in public, for example.
TonyHarrisson 6 days ago
@TonyHarrisson Good point. Even Rick 'seperation church/state makes me wanna puke' Santorums wife had a medically necessary late term abortion.
dianalee84 6 days ago
@Amtrak504 You said 'anyone who's in favor of abortion is unintelligent and morally wrong' the 'fact' thing is semantics. Recently a 9 yr old rape victim, pregnant with twins had an abortion.Her mother and Dr.were excommunicated by the RCC for allowing the abortion. What sort of 'morality' would force a 9yr old rape victim to risk her life to give birth? The kind of morality like the Phillipines.The RCC there is anti birthcontrol/abortion, and they have a Huge illegal abortion industry.
dianalee84 6 days ago
@dianalee84 What if you were that girl, you had the abortion, and you found out later that your daughter or son had been cut apart into pieces while still alive?
Amtrak504 5 days ago
@Amtrak504 What about people in our secular country who Don't believe that a Jewish Palestinian who was god who fathered himself with a Jewish virgin who made all the dead in Jerusalems graveyards become undead,who also beams himself and a magic soul into a zygote at the moment of conception..What about people like me who Don't believe that happens and are morally ok with a woman taking the morning after pill? I don't believe every zygote at an IVF clinic has a soul beamed into them
dianalee84 2 days ago
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@dianalee84 What if you were that girl, you had the abortion, and you found out later that your daughter or son had been cut apart into pieces while still alive?
Amtrak504 5 days ago
@Amtrak504 If I was that 9 yr old rape victim,who was pregnant with twins, that my Dr.s and hospital staff All agreed would cause me serious health problems,and they also doubted wether a 9tr old could carry them to anything near viability..Id be very grateful that the Dr.s and hospital workers thought I was more important than the 2 fetuses I was carrying because I was raped.And that my Mom,Dr.s and hospital staff were all willing to be xcommunicated for providing me with an abortion.
dianalee84 2 days ago
@dianalee84 You're the only sane person commenting on this. Thank you!
SpinerFan 1 week ago
@SpinerFan Aw, Thanks! I thought the same about you too! :)
dianalee84 1 week ago
Why would a pastor of a "Christian Church" be so adamant about driving away pro-life Christians? They are most likely not Christian at all.
truthdoesnotchange66 1 week ago
@truthdoesnotchange66 Maybe because they didn't want their children being upset by those stupid posters. My brother and sister in law ,along with all the other parents at their kids elementry school had to see anti abort posters like that from superstitious people and it upset the children very much. It's unfair to make children have to see things like that.
dianalee84 1 week ago
@dianalee84 Do you care more about kids having to see dead bodies, or do you care about the fact that more than 60 kids are dismembered and their heads crushed everyday because of abortion? Those signs show people the truth of what abortion does to a human being
Amtrak504 1 week ago
I am against "killing babies" too... but a ZYGOTE is only a potential... not a baby!!
OnCharliesTeam 2 weeks ago
Assault! With some water..gee,who grewup a rich white person in suburbia? christians arguing over whos a better christian how funny. i've been assaulted with some water..waste of taxpayer $
BS3shocker 2 weeks ago
@BS3shocker its not about me, its about the 4000 murdered babies that happen every day, the number one cause of death in America is abortion. The Church needs to wake up.
noplannedparenthood 2 weeks ago
@noplannedparenthood I was about you when you phoned the police 'I've been assaulted' and you were too embarassed to say the rest. Thanks for wasting taxpayers $, and keeping the cops away from real criminals. 'I've been assaulted!' you've never been outside the USA, or a rich,white exsistence,have you?
dianalee84 2 weeks ago
@noplannedparenthood The church banned abortions is the Phillipines.They have a massive illegal abortion industry, and many women die from unsafe abortion. Poor women die, that is.I imagine you'd see that as a perk.
dianalee84 2 weeks ago
@dianalee84 People die HERE in America from botched abortions which actually happen often. Also, over 300,000 women have died from abortion linked breast cancer, + depression from realizing what they've done, etc
Amtrak504 1 week ago
@Amtrak504 Where did you get those ststs? Those are made up, There's no proven link between breast cancer/abortion/depression. And you're not against abortion because you think it Might be a cause of breast cancer. Get the stats on women in the USA who've died from a legal abortion,I think it's app. 15, out of 4,0000 a day over ten years.
dianalee84 1 week ago
@Amtrak504 Pregnancy causes 'postpartumdepression' it can become severe, and causes many women to try to hurt or even kill their baby.
dianalee84 1 week ago
@noplannedparenthood What makes me laugh is ...(I'm guessing here) You're against abortion because you're a christian, and what you've read in the bible..Yes? Abortions legal in Isreal,because of what jews read in the bible too. Same book. Funny that
dianalee84 2 weeks ago
@dianalee84 No I am against killing babies.
noplannedparenthood 2 weeks ago
@noplannedparenthood If you are not against abortion because your a christian, then why the bible quotes and saying the church needs to wake up? Do you think stopping a fertilized egg from implanting is killing a baby?
BS3shocker 2 weeks ago
@noplannedparenthood You'r holdingup bible quotes, and saying the church needs to wake up. There's a thing in our Secual country,called 'seperation of church/state. The same bible that your signs quotes are from is the same bible that makes abortion legal in Isreal.
dianalee84 2 weeks ago
@noplannedparenthood Is doing anything that interferes with a fertalised egg 'child murder' to you? Is taking the morning after pill 'child murder'...Since killing a 1 year old child is a D.P in some states, would taking the morning after pill be a death sentence if you hadyour way?
dianalee84 2 weeks ago
@noplannedparenthood There's only been 1 country that ever made abortion illegal,and prosecuted women for having illegal abortions.(the few places in the world now that don't have legal abortion, never prosecute the large number of women for having illegal ones)if you want to see what'd happen if your wishes canme true, google 'Cighid,1989,1990. That's what you want to happen.
dianalee84 2 weeks ago
@noplannedparenthood Here's a question I've always wanted to ask. Would you pro-lifers be willing to pay more taxes? I ask this because most of the time, the mother cannot afford to have the baby. Thus would you be willing to pay more taxes to help her support the baby? And if the woman decides to put the baby up for adoption, would you be willing to pay to support the baby?
kimanyv 1 week ago
@kimanyv Most antiaborts ' are republican voting fundies. They don't care how many non white people they kill in other parts of the world, only fetusesin the USA upset them.Being republicans, they don't want to pay more taxes.
dianalee84 1 week ago
@kimanyv USA gov websites put the number of children waiting to be adopted at nearly half a million children.
dianalee84 1 week ago
@dianalee84 Were do you get that number from, I googled it and its more like 130,000 but so what, does that mean we should kill more kids? why dont you just kill the 130,000 and by your standard we dont have a problem at all.
noplannedparenthood 1 week ago
@noplannedparenthood I notice that you skipped over my question. Could you answer it please? I'll repeat it again: Would you prolifers be willing to pay more taxes to support the baby?
kimanyv 1 week ago
@kimanyv Yes I would be, I dont think killing babies is the answer to the problem. You cant stop evil people from killing people even babies but I feel that it is up to all of us to do what is right to help save these kids. I pay over 50% in taxes now, have 5 adopted brothers and sisters, we have adopted and would be willing to take any baby a mom would give us. So if you are thinking about killing your baby let me know I will take it.
noplannedparenthood 1 week ago
@noplannedparenthood Ok, that's good. Here's another question: would you support gay people adopting children?
kimanyv 1 week ago
@kimanyv thats it is much better that a gay person adopt a child than kill it.
noplannedparenthood 1 week ago
@noplannedparenthood Also good. Now, just another question. Before abortion was legal, many women, in an effort to remove the fetus, would either try doing it themselves with a coat hanger or with someone who was not medically certified to do it. This was dangerous and could kill the woman involved. If abortion was made illegal, how do you propose we prevent this from happening?
kimanyv 1 week ago
@kimanyv We can not make murder legal to make is safer for the murderer. Just like we we should not make it legal to kill black people so white people do not have to go to jail after killing someone. Yes it used to be legal to kill a black man or beat your wife or kill a Jew. All these things were legal. Killing a baby is the same thing. KILLING BABIES IS WRONG.
noplannedparenthood 1 week ago
@noplannedparenthood I see where you're coming at, however I don't think that's a fair comparison. Legalizing murder would end up endangering the murderer even more since it is totally legal to straight up kill him no questions asked. But that's a topic that's long and annoying and will leave the both of us pissed at each other. Next question, would you be willing to provide easy access to contraceptives to prevent unwanted pregnancies from happening?
kimanyv 1 week ago
@kimanyv how much easier can contraceptives be to a hold of, they give condoms out at jr high schools and if you cant afford a condom should you really be having sex?
I personally hate the pill, look at how bad it is for you, just read what it does to your body. I got fixed after I was done having kids so my wife would not have to deal with that. Sex is one of my favorite things in the whole world but I really think you should wait till you can afford a condom.
noplannedparenthood 1 week ago
@noplannedparenthood Well, poor people have urges too.
So far you seem pretty logical. That's good. Next question: At what point in the reproductive cycle do you consider the baby to be formed? As in, when does the baby become a baby?
kimanyv 1 week ago
@kimanyv If poor people want a condom they are often get them for free but cost as little as .20 cents each. I have to say that the beginning is at conception. The word conception means "the state of being conceived" the beginning. So to answer your question it has to be at the beginning and not after the beginning and not before the beginning. One more thing to think about at conception if not aborted the baby will always be a baby until it is a young adult, it never becomes a dog or..
noplannedparenthood 1 week ago
@noplannedparenthood So that means, the moment the sperm hits the egg, that's a baby?
kimanyv 1 week ago
@kimanyv Yep that is the beginning of life. There is a tremendous consensus in the scientific community about when life begins. According to this elementary definition of life, life begins at fertilization, when a sperm unites with an oocyte. You can ask any doctor and he will tall you that you are pregnant as soon as you have a fertilization egg.
noplannedparenthood 1 week ago
@noplannedparenthood And if we created some way to kill that one cell, that has no distinguishable human features, that's still killing a baby?
kimanyv 1 week ago
@kimanyv if that is the beginning of life and if that is a person and I think it is than yes that is killing a baby.
noplannedparenthood 1 week ago
@noplannedparenthood If you killed both the sperm and the egg seconds before they touched, would that still be the same as killing a baby?
kimanyv 1 week ago
@kimanyv no that would not, you said it yourself "before" thats like if I was going to kill you but before I did it I changed my mind. Did I kill you no I stopped before I did it.
noplannedparenthood 1 week ago
@noplannedparenthood If your walking and there's water on the road and a car slashes you do you call the cops? Go protest at churches at gawd when it's raining and you get wet? Assaulted, you wimpy waster of police time,you should be fined for that.
dianalee84 1 week ago
@dianalee84 Thats just silly, if i stood out side that church or any biz and sprayed people with a water hose i would get arrested in 10 min or less.
noplannedparenthood 1 week ago
@noplannedparenthood I'm a white person like you are,but the 'spraying people with a water hose arrested 10 mins ect' ..You've grown in a white wealthy suburban exsistance,haven't you? Spraying people with anything but lead was pretty much what it took to get the cops to showup where I came from.
dianalee84 1 week ago
@noplannedparenthood I work in SE Asia sometimes,there's a festival in Thailand where everyone gets on the street and throws buckets of water,sprays hoses and water pistols,everyone joins in and everyone gets soaked. It's alot of fun! You might not like it, however.
dianalee84 1 week ago
@dianalee84 "Your" does NOT mean "you are". "Your" is a second-person, possessive pronoun showing ownership, as in "Your pizza is here." If you mean "you are", keep the "e", change the "a" to an APOSTROPHE, and drop the blank after "u". It's called a contraction as in "You're walking and there's water on the road."
ThorOdinson14 1 week ago
@ThorOdinson14 Thanks for the help with pronouns. My writings testamony to what dropping out of 10th grade does to you. Rick Santorum would approve!
dianalee84 1 week ago
@ThorOdinson14 Wasn't Wodin the god who nailed to the tree of life,died and rose from the dead,Long before Jesus thought of doing it?
dianalee84 1 week ago
@dianalee84 Wotan/Wodn/Odin is one of many cultures' deities the myths of whom include an element of self-sacrifice. Unlike that of Jesus Christ, however, Odin's ordeal was for his sole benefit, not the world's soul benefit, LOL. It is said that He hung on the Yggdrasil tree for a week and two days, or "Nights All Nine",
Ev105 1 week ago
Odin's Sacrifice was to gain the Runes whereas Jesus called Himself the "Tree of Life" and when Greeks began to become Christian their myth of the Caduceus merged with the bronze "healing" snake of the Old Testament. This is the basis of the healing snake on EMS ambulances.
Ev105 1 week ago
@noplannedparenthood In other words, you believe the difference between a baby and not a baby is less than one second.
kimanyv 1 week ago
@noplannedparenthood So you'd have a woman go to jail for life,or get the Death Penalty for useing the morning after pill. That's your ideal world, a woman kills her zygote and gets the death penalty. Your a Nice Man! Calls the police and candyass crys 'ASSAULT' when hit with water, and would have zygote killingwomen get the Death Penalty.
dianalee84 1 week ago
@noplannedparenthood You want women (who you say are 'wonderful' ) to get a lifesentence or the death penalty for killing a zygote??? I bet you vot repub, and supportted the Iraq war. Lots of dead babys, women,men, American service people dying There every day,Where's the protest for them? 4USA kids are killed by abuse EVERY day by a parent/carer, where's the out rage for Them?
dianalee84 1 week ago
@noplannedparenthood I've seen graphic photos of women who died from illegal abortions. Would it be ok with you to have the children of Your family seeing a dead womans photo, with her intestines hanging out of her vagina outside Your church?
dianalee84 1 week ago
@noplannedparenthood You'd be willing to take in a 'baby' but most of the children in fostercare/ needing to be adopted aren't cute perfect white babies. They're children, many with serious health/social problems. They get sent to abusive fostercare homes, and desperatly need love and a family, but since they aren't perfect babies people don't want them :(
dianalee84 1 week ago
@noplannedparenthood You think women who have abortions are evil, I think superstious people who'd make a women who wants an abortion have to have a back ally abortion and risk her life are evil. Stopping legal abortion doesn't stop abortion.Countries without legal abortion have some of the highest abortion rates in the world. All you want to do is make women without $ suffer.
dianalee84 1 week ago
@noplannedparenthood Do you think taking the morning after pill and stopping a fertalised egg is murder ?
dianalee84 1 week ago
People who force a woman and her mate to bring to life one fertilized egg force a different viable egg to die. Women who have needed an abortion who then have babies wold not have been able to have those same babies if the other fertilizations were forced on them. Each egg is different. Appeasing religious zealots who think they know better than a woman and her mate about their own future children is an outrageous invasion of privacy and a form of slavery.
VJnumber1 2 weeks ago
@noplannedparenthood The vast majority of abortions are performed LONG before 8 months, during the first trimester. At that stage it is not a baby or an "unborn child". I can't believe you see women as nothing more than incubators.
SpinerFan 2 weeks ago 2
@SpinerFan You are wrong they are babies, and I do not see women as incubators, i see them as the wonder of the world to be loved and cared for. Mothers that kill their kids are sick and need help and forgiveness. google a baby at 7 weeks and look at it, it is a baby.
noplannedparenthood 2 weeks ago
@noplannedparenthood Women are the 'Wonders of the World' but if they abort? Send those 'Wonders' to jail for Life! Ha ha You people are confused! No wonder abortions still legal!
BS3shocker 2 weeks ago
@noplannedparenthood So if abortion was no longer legal, and a young woman had an unwanted pregnancy,and got some RU486 online(many women do)and aborted her 5 week old fetus,You'd want her to spend her life in jail,or get the death penalty. And thats your idea of 'forgiveness'?
dianalee84 2 weeks ago
@dianalee84 Forgiveness comes when you realize what you did and you are sorry and ask for forgiveness. Someone who killed their child can get forgiveness. Does not mean they did not commit murder and pay the price, what ever the price may be. You dont think that baby is a person so she should not be punished but what if she killed a 1 year old, what should happen then? It is the same thing. No matter what she is a murderer of children. sad to say but true.
noplannedparenthood 2 weeks ago
@noplannedparenthood So a woman who takes the morning after pill is a 'murderer of children' that's lovely. A one year old isn't living in another persons body. The fact of human gestation is that's it's not a short duration,like most higher mammels,and gives the woman time to abort a pregnancy.Complain to the maker if you don't like that fact. If there was a fire at an IVF clinic, which would you save first,a 1 yr old child, or a petrie dish with 100 zygote 'people'?You'd save the dish?
dianalee84 2 weeks ago
@noplannedparenthood i imagine you believe that anything that interferes with a zygote after conception is akin to killing a child.So you'd have women lockedup in jail for life if they took the morning after pill? Or sentenced to Death?
BS3shocker 2 weeks ago
@noplannedparenthood Why aren't you protesting at IVF clinics? More 'babies' are killed there than in abortion clinics. if somebody who works in one slips and drops a plate full..itd be mass murder!!!
BS3shocker 2 weeks ago
the cop and the pastor looks like they are cousins. dude, they somewhat look alike LOL.
RaiKonCA 2 weeks ago
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some girl i knew had like 7 abortions by age 19
CorruptedYouth100 2 weeks ago
I totally wanna be a part of that church!!! Water fights in church! SIIIIIIICK!
TheOfficeNinja 2 weeks ago
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CorruptedYouth100 2 weeks ago
good thing I wasn't there, if that pastor sprayed me with a hose, he would have taken a ride in the ambulance, while I take one in the cop car to the jail
Catholic00012 2 weeks ago
@Catholic00012 This cop Officer Jon Hixson a dad, husband and Christian is a perfect example of the church today. I believe he like most Christians do not care if 4000 abortions happen every day in America. Does not care if babies are being killed every day in his own town. Jon is a cop sworn to protect and yet little to nothing is being done to protect these kids and Jon's church lies about what they do. The church in general does almost nothing about this issue.
noplannedparenthood 2 weeks ago
@noplannedparenthood personally I would not fight back, that officer ended up paying a big price and still does. It was nice to see a christian with some blood in his veins, most Christians are already dead.
noplannedparenthood 2 weeks ago
@noplannedparenthood Your fully aware that filming women and putting their details out in public when they go to their Private Dr.s appointments leads to them being stalked and their children threatened.We Al know this.How would You like to be filmed coming out of church on Sunday, by people with 'Down with Infidels' posters,who film You and Your car plates, and post them on anti christian websites, that are known for causing idiots who see it to go find the people filmed, and kill,stalk them?
dianalee84 2 weeks ago
@dianalee84 Ah no, they are not being stocked. The only kids that are in danger are the ones in the moms bellies because the law does not protect them. A mom can kill her child all good?
noplannedparenthood 2 weeks ago
@noplannedparenthood 4 children are killed in the USA every day, from abuse by a parent or carer. Yet you cry over fetuses. And you want women to have painful,unsafe abortions and you act like it's the end of the world to be sprayed with some Water.
dianalee84 2 weeks ago
crazy crazy christians....
junkmail22 3 weeks ago
Waterfights for Christ! Christians spraying each other with hoses and being fussy. This is hysterical. YOU CAN'T WATER US WE ARE NOT PLANTS!
aestheticcataclysm 3 weeks ago
The protesters are showing people what abortion does to children. It kills them by mutilating them, taking their body out of the womb, and disposing of the body. Anyone who doesn't stand up AGAINST abortion is lukewarm, and God promised He would dispose of you
Amtrak504 3 weeks ago
both sides are in the wrong. fuck that preist for doing what he did, and fuck anti abortion protests
Listen2Spitta 4 weeks ago
I'm so sick of seeing anti-abortion posters everywhere there is nothing wrong with abortions its sad but a lot of people can't keep their children its their choice to make not yours get over yourselves the arrogance is unbearably frustrating.
hocko96 1 month ago 14
@hocko96 When people cant keep their dog they give it up for adoption but when people dont want to keep their kid they kill it? and thats ok with you right? At some point you have to know it is murder. 4000 a day and even the church does not care.
noplannedparenthood 1 month ago
@noplannedparenthood The Church cares, just not the pro-abortion priests and Bishops
Amtrak504 3 weeks ago
@Amtrak504 Idont think so, very few Christians or Catholics care, half the abortions are by christian and catholic parents. I even know planned parent hood directors who go to christian churches. The church needs to wake up. Even those that are pro-life do almost nothing about it. Their is no difference between a pro-life church and a pro-choice church. Just a name thats it. oh maybe they sell cup cakes for life or walk for life so what If we were killing black people we would not sell cup cake
noplannedparenthood 3 weeks ago
@noplannedparenthood yeah, that's sad that a lot of people, people high up too, are so lukewarm. They don't give a hoot about the killing of innocent lives
Amtrak504 3 weeks ago
@hocko96 What happens if a woman gets raped by a relative? Is that enough reason to end it?
I sure think so
yomommasindahouse 3 weeks ago
@yomommasindahouse I know a lady that happened to and she had an abortion and still to this day it bothers her. The only with worse than Rape by a relative that causes a pregnancy is adding killing the baby to the list. What if the baby was born would it be ok to kill it say when it was 5 years old? when is it ok to kill a child?
noplannedparenthood 3 weeks ago
@noplannedparenthood Yes, some people do feel regret for having an abortion. That doesn't mean everyone does. Using her personal experience as a justification for making sure nobody else can get an abortion is retarded.
Abortions are only performed in the womb, usualyl before the 3rd trimester. After that, it's only done in emergencies (to save the mother's life). Once it's out, it's an individual, and killing it WOULD BE murder. It's not that hard to grasp.
DeadFishFactory 3 weeks ago
@DeadFishFactory it would not be hard to grasp if it was not a baby, have you see a first or second trimester baby? I hate to shatter your logic but its a baby, so you have justified when its ok to kill a baby and when its not. Oh and retarded people do not like it when you use that word to scorn someone. its not very nice. they hear it all the time, i guess you dont care because you would of just aborted them right.
noplannedparenthood 3 weeks ago
@noplannedparenthood You can call it whatever you want. The fact of the matter is that up until the third trimester, it CANNOT feel pain because the nerves are not connected to the brain yet.
I'm not advocating that women should abort babies all the time. I'm saying that women should have the choice to. Somehow, I'm thinking that you think abortion is fun for women. You probably women intentionally get pregnant to get abortions or some sick shit like that.
DeadFishFactory 3 weeks ago
@noplannedparenthood I just don't agree,I'm sorry. Too many things could be wron with the baby since it is incest. Plus,try explaining to your child one day who the Father is.
yomommasindahouse 3 weeks ago
@hocko96 The parents can put the baby up for adoption! A lot better than killing a baby!
Amtrak504 3 weeks ago
@hocko96 If people treated their babies better than they treated their dogs that would be a start. When someone cant keep their dog they at least put it up for adoption. They dont kill it. Abortion is the killing of your own baby. I dont know why its so hard to say. Its not abortion, its not a choice its killing your baby. So say it like it is. " a lot of people can't keep their babies so they kill them.
noplannedparenthood 3 weeks ago
@noplannedparenthood
People don't have to carry a dog in their bodies for 9 months, suffer the physical ails of pregnancy, and risk death giving birth to them. Live babies are never killed when their parents can't take care of them. Compare a dog to a live baby if you want, but not a fetus which is biologically dependent on its mother.
And goddamned Google Chrome's spellchecker is rubbish... "euthanize" is a word but "euthanized" isn't. Brilliant.
nafaidni 3 weeks ago
@noplannedparenthood Who are you to tell a mother what to do with THEIR BABY? With THEIR BODY? With THEIR MIND? You may not like it, neither do I, but what RIGHT do YOU HAVE to TAKE AWAY SOMEONE ELSE'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE!? How does it feel to be to the right of Genghis Khan? You sick wannabe DICTATOR!
firestrings272 3 weeks ago
@hocko96 what's frustrating is how so many people can turn a blind eye to murder....
JeffreyTHughes 3 weeks ago
@hocko96 I so sick because people like you feel it is ok to kill infants....
NirvanaKid1000 2 weeks ago
@NirvanaKid1000 No, I dont feel its ok to kill infants. It was once legal to kill black men, it was once legal to kill Jews. It was never ok to do so. It is never ok to kill a baby no matter how uncaring a mother is.
noplannedparenthood 2 weeks ago
Do you think that by showing sorrowful pictures you might be reminding those who have lost their babies? So you set up signs outside of a church to attempt to turn people in the community away from this church? And yelling out accusing things to those who pass by shows your not right.
Nueroactive 1 month ago
@Nueroactive what do you think an abortion is? Do you think they put a pink ribbon on the baby and dress it up with cute little clothes and send it away to another planet? I mean..that is abortion..they KILL him/her and in case you didn't know killing isn't something pretty to look at. Why does it bother you to see the pics if it's not a bad thing? if it's not killing a human being then those pictures wouldn't bother you. If you don't feel any sympathy or remorse then it proves you have no heart
Stormeyworld 1 month ago
you know, I am fortunate that I haven't been raped, but look at @stormeyworld here
look at the level of ice in "her" veins with regard to rape victims.
something tells me that this person is both a man, and a rapist. what a fucking sicko to be hanging out in abortion threads.
TFYFWYA 1 month ago
thanks for the laughs, misogynist bigots.
TFYFWYA 1 month ago
@TFYFWYA
Right. These guys give a damn, so they're "misogynist" bigots.
bluepuppyboy 1 month ago
@bluepuppyboy
both attempting to legislate other women's bodies as well as stalking women at doctors offices are misogynist actions.
TFYFWYA 1 month ago
This is awesome, I love watching pro-lifers getting fucked
CloverFuchs 1 month ago
That man getting sprayed looks like he sins with gluttony. Then also I understand the pastor point of view because he doesn't want this associated with his church,
Subio 1 month ago
Bunch of men standing out there, of course. These fuckwads need their dicks ripped off. You WILL NOT tell me what to do with my body or you WILL die. You got that? IS THAT FUCKING SIMPLE ENOUGH FOR YOU DICKFUCKS TO UNDERSTAND???
TFYFWYA 1 month ago
@TFYFWYA why do you have so much hatred? Are you really that miserable? WOW. You need a LOT OF HELP! And you're also very scary. Nobody told your sorry ass to come and comment on this video. By the way you write I can already tell what kind of freak you are. "You will not tell me what to do with my body or you will die". Somebody needs to report you to the police! Not all there...not all there at all!
Stormeyworld 1 month ago
@Stormeyworld
So you think it's OK that one person should control another persons body?
And why SHUOLDN'T a person who believes something that evil be killed, hmmm? You fucking shitstain. You and your kind will learn the lesson one way or another. Women's bodies belong to women.
TFYFWYA 1 month ago