Lucius, Re: WWII European theatre... Really? You're gonna go there? The Holocaust was not a good enough reason for getting involved. So whom are you mimicking: Ron Paul, Ahmadinejad, David Duke or Mel Gibson's dad? (or all 4, and spot the difference)
@luciusETRUR And even Afghanistan, as the reason for invading was to get Osama bin Laden, but the CIA and FBI aren't willing to say he was involved, and we never proved he was guilty.
I would hope that any other president would have actually gone after the people that attacked us instead of helping them get away with it. Now that we've learned that Fox News has also gone out of it's way to be pro-Saudi Arabia it's pretty clear who the GOP answers to.
If you take the time to look back on American history, democrats got us into a lot more conflicts.... WWI, WWII, Vietnam, Somalia, Bosnia, and now Afghanistan. A-stan has a D next to it now.
M31, though I concur, you should remove WW1 & WW2 don't you think? Carter offered 11/2 million a month to A-stan as you called it. Reagan offered 2 million a month. Had Bush not let Osama Bin Forgotten get away at Torah Borah, we could have cleared (PRE IRAQ). Now I fear we are stuck there for the rest of both our natural lives my friend. Democants start wars but believe in a smaller military? Nothing these politicians do makes since anymore!
ww1 and ww2 both had D's next to them, why should i remove those? Im not saying their cause was unjust. I'm saying democrat administrations are far more militant.
M31, understood, but I say so because they were World Wars. They weren't these private interest wars that you mentioned, and are clearly correct about! I could go further, but WW1 & WW2 are different monsters than everything that followed. Oddly enough, a Democant used one of them to pull us out of economic disaster. A Republicant recently put us in an economic disaster. The Wars are just one factor of that, and that is the case with what cost made the official record. Much is off the record!
M#, Sorry for your confusion! You actually think I'm some subservient lapdog to The Left! I guess my use of Democant went by you! Both parties turn their backs on Those That Serve With Honor like my Great Grandfather, Grandfather, Father, myself, and The Countless Heroes out there now who have the fortitude to do what many of them never did! They send Our Troops into combat with inadequate equipment and no plan for success, and you actually think I concern myself with sides? ROTFF, It Hurts?!?!
M#, OK, you got me troller! I'm a closet Leftie who is clearly blaming everything on The Right! At this point we're basically talking just to talk! The absolute fuckcrazy part about it is that I'm agreeing with you for the most part, and based on what I left here!!!! LMFAO!!!! That approach is truly common "On The Right Side" as Obama does what they did, but he is wrong! FUCKING YAWN!!!! What else?
Darth Cheney is evil incarnate! We lost countrymen back on 911! Bush told us our enemies would hear us as he did that day on 912! These Neocon cowards then let Osama Bin Forgotten get away at Torah Borah, Which Was Pre Iraq! They Had Him! WTF, the fact people back political parties via meaningless affiliations even in the face of horrendous acts like just the ones I mentioned here blows me away! These assholes have killed Americans for personal reasons! They should all be incarcerated!
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What a load of garbage. So now Bush is to be a scapegoat? Last time I checked, all but 2 members of congress voted to go to war against Iraq. Hypocrites!
@mycatisamoron -your head appears to be firmly lodged up your ass. Why bother speaking when you clearly haven't been paying attention to anything but Fox nooze?
@SaveOurSovereignty3 if the 2000 election hadn't been stolen and if Gore would have been in the White House we would never have gone into Iraq. So what's your delusional little point, pookie.
@FlashWeiner An why hasn't anything happened on this so far? What is up? Why is there not one iota of impetus to bring these arch criminals to justice?
Lucius, Re: WWII European theatre... Really? You're gonna go there? The Holocaust was not a good enough reason for getting involved. So whom are you mimicking: Ron Paul, Ahmadinejad, David Duke or Mel Gibson's dad? (or all 4, and spot the difference)
mercifuln8 1 month ago
In reference to when do we go to war without evidence:
Civil War
Spainish-American War
World War I
World War II - Europeon Theatre
Korean War
Vietnam War
First Persian Gulf War
luciusETRUR 1 year ago
@luciusETRUR And even Afghanistan, as the reason for invading was to get Osama bin Laden, but the CIA and FBI aren't willing to say he was involved, and we never proved he was guilty.
luciusETRUR 1 year ago
I would hope that any other president would have actually gone after the people that attacked us instead of helping them get away with it. Now that we've learned that Fox News has also gone out of it's way to be pro-Saudi Arabia it's pretty clear who the GOP answers to.
raouldukelives 2 years ago
If you take the time to look back on American history, democrats got us into a lot more conflicts.... WWI, WWII, Vietnam, Somalia, Bosnia, and now Afghanistan. A-stan has a D next to it now.
Malarkey31 2 years ago
M31, though I concur, you should remove WW1 & WW2 don't you think? Carter offered 11/2 million a month to A-stan as you called it. Reagan offered 2 million a month. Had Bush not let Osama Bin Forgotten get away at Torah Borah, we could have cleared (PRE IRAQ). Now I fear we are stuck there for the rest of both our natural lives my friend. Democants start wars but believe in a smaller military? Nothing these politicians do makes since anymore!
MyRiseToHonor 2 years ago
ww1 and ww2 both had D's next to them, why should i remove those? Im not saying their cause was unjust. I'm saying democrat administrations are far more militant.
Malarkey31 2 years ago
M31, understood, but I say so because they were World Wars. They weren't these private interest wars that you mentioned, and are clearly correct about! I could go further, but WW1 & WW2 are different monsters than everything that followed. Oddly enough, a Democant used one of them to pull us out of economic disaster. A Republicant recently put us in an economic disaster. The Wars are just one factor of that, and that is the case with what cost made the official record. Much is off the record!
MyRiseToHonor 2 years ago
I know it hurts knowing democrats start wars too.
Malarkey31 2 years ago
M#, Sorry for your confusion! You actually think I'm some subservient lapdog to The Left! I guess my use of Democant went by you! Both parties turn their backs on Those That Serve With Honor like my Great Grandfather, Grandfather, Father, myself, and The Countless Heroes out there now who have the fortitude to do what many of them never did! They send Our Troops into combat with inadequate equipment and no plan for success, and you actually think I concern myself with sides? ROTFF, It Hurts?!?!
MyRiseToHonor 2 years ago
Of course you are.
You can't blam everything one party bud.
Malarkey31 2 years ago
M#, OK, you got me troller! I'm a closet Leftie who is clearly blaming everything on The Right! At this point we're basically talking just to talk! The absolute fuckcrazy part about it is that I'm agreeing with you for the most part, and based on what I left here!!!! LMFAO!!!! That approach is truly common "On The Right Side" as Obama does what they did, but he is wrong! FUCKING YAWN!!!! What else?
MyRiseToHonor 2 years ago
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Hey Chrissie look what ya done now...
John Patrick Bedell harbored resentment for the military and was an avowed Bush hater as well as being a 9/11 Truther.
Fortunately, this truthers marksmanship skills were as bad as the truth movements ability to prove that 9/11 was an inside job.
Just goes to show how the lame stream media can turn people into killers by forcing Bush hate down their throats.
yoshimomma 2 years ago
I am not a great fan of Chris Matthews, but this is one of his most perceptive and salient commentary.
seamoremonster 2 years ago
if you knew the real reasons why we went into iraq,it wouldnt matter who was president,we still would have whent in,
Mr420Anthony 2 years ago
Darth Cheney is evil incarnate! We lost countrymen back on 911! Bush told us our enemies would hear us as he did that day on 912! These Neocon cowards then let Osama Bin Forgotten get away at Torah Borah, Which Was Pre Iraq! They Had Him! WTF, the fact people back political parties via meaningless affiliations even in the face of horrendous acts like just the ones I mentioned here blows me away! These assholes have killed Americans for personal reasons! They should all be incarcerated!
MyRiseToHonor 2 years ago 2
They only voted because they were pressured near an election
hoot101 2 years ago
desert fox?
iTellYouNoLie 2 years ago
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What a load of garbage. So now Bush is to be a scapegoat? Last time I checked, all but 2 members of congress voted to go to war against Iraq. Hypocrites!
mycatisamoron 2 years ago
@mycatisamoron: The way you are arguing is cynical. You know as well as everybody that they have been deceived and lied to by the Bush Junta.
deauvillimus 2 years ago
@mycatisamoron -your head appears to be firmly lodged up your ass. Why bother speaking when you clearly haven't been paying attention to anything but Fox nooze?
integral 2 years ago
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Bush is a puppet common people
His controllers are the same as Obama's
You see they prefer to just keep the whole left right fight going and going, this is how they get away with what they do.
SaveOurSovereignty3 2 years ago
@SaveOurSovereignty3 if the 2000 election hadn't been stolen and if Gore would have been in the White House we would never have gone into Iraq. So what's your delusional little point, pookie.
integral 2 years ago
watch?v=DegJl8jtxUE
iTellYouNoLie 2 years ago
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iTellYouNoLie 2 years ago
That link doesn't work (?)
mycatisamoron 2 years ago
Well said!
But what we really need is to put someone's ass in jail.
(Bush, Cheney, Rice, etc.)
We need accountability in the White House!
FlashWeiner 2 years ago 2
@FlashWeiner An why hasn't anything happened on this so far? What is up? Why is there not one iota of impetus to bring these arch criminals to justice?
MrTearsintherain 2 years ago