James White - Closing statement George Bryson debate

[Entropy56]

It is not that there is truth in the Bible, but that no one knows how to live accordingly.

[DPMosteller]

@Entropy56

I agree, there is truth in the Bible. And, men do not know how to live.

That's why we desperately need to study the Bible and then apply it to our lives. As Psalm 119:105 says, Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path. Follow the light, to Christ as your Savior and Lord, and how to live accordingly.

[CBALLEN]

This is still one of the best clips on youtube.There is so much truth packed into this 10:23 statement,we sure need more preachers in the pulpit who will preach this kind of truth.God Bless D.P.

[DPMosteller]

@CBALLEN

It really is! And I'm proud of the way James handles himself in defending the truth of God in so many of his debates. This really is one of my favorites. God richly bless you Cballen!

Did I ever mention that I'm from Mesa, Arizona like James?

[CBALLEN]

@DPMosteller Yeah,I remember you saying that you live there and didn't you get to meet him?How far is his church from your home?

[DPMosteller]

@CBALLEN

Yes, and it's a long way from Portland, Oregon where we live now :(

[12343590]

preach on! thats what I call genuine Christianity!

[florinu123]

wow, powerful. simply stunning what YHWH does for us. James White shined in this debate.

[DPMosteller]

@florinu123

Did I ever mention that I'm from Mesa, Arizona also, just like James White?

[florinu123]

@DPMosteller

you are? lucky you. meeting James White on youtube 15 months ago pumped more theology and sound biblical doctrine than 17 years of church. and for the 1st time i can read Romans 9 with a calm heart, despite the fact that my previous desire was to rip that page from every Bible i saw.

[12343590]

@DPMosteller can u pursuade James White to debate Orthodox Jews? pleeaasae

[CBALLEN]

John 6:44 No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him and I will raise them up on the last day.This is very clear that no person alive or who ever lived, had the ability to come to Jesus on their own,as you believe they can.This is a particular group of people only,those drawn by the Father,who are made ABLE TO COME AND ALL WHO ARE DRAWN ARE SAVED BY JESUS! The logic then follows ,THOSE NOT DRAWN BY THE FATHER WON'T BE SAVED,right?

[cubed07]

@DPMosteller Acttually grace is a gift from God, so when I used the gift example, salvation is exactly like that. Their is no work involved in accepting a gift from someone, likewise there is no human work in accepting what Christ did on our behalf for God's glory. God gets the glory and reward of his suffering. The Bible makes it clear when Jesus said, 'The work of God is this, believe in the one He sent

[DPMosteller]

@cubed07

RIGHT AND WRONG! Yes, grace is a wonderful, unbelievable gift from God. Bless His Thrice Holy Name! But what is grace? What does it include that we needed and didn't have? 1 The ability to see how sinful we really are, and how holy God really is. 2 To see the hopelessness of our condition before Him. 3. To see Christ on the cross for us. 4 A new heart and nature as a new creation before Him with a genuine love and desire to repent and serve Him and follow Him regardless of the cost.

[cubed07]

God gave men numerous methods for seeing that they are sinners and in need of Christ to be saved. God gave men the commandments the prophets of OT, and most importantly the fear of the Lord. Why do you think God says, NO MAN WILL BE WITHOUT EXCUSE ON JUDGEMENT DAY? Men will be held accountable for their sins and for rejecting the gospel. John 6:45 - "It is written in the prophets, And they shall all be taught by God therefore everyone who has heard and learned from the father comes to me.

[CBALLEN]

@cubed07 You must ask yourself something,you must ask yourself WHY HAS GOD MADE ME BLIND TO THE WORD?WHY DO I KICK AGAINST THE PRICKS?WHY DO I FIGHT SO HARD AGAINST GOD'S ELECTION AND HOLD TO MY TRADITIONS THE SAME WAY THE PHARISEES DID AND THE CATHOLIC CHURCH DOES?

[CBALLEN]

@cubed07 All false religions have a few things in common,a natural man can only chose a false religion and god for himself.Christianity has a God who chooses His own,by no merit from the chosen.Cubed ,you are no more than a watered down Catholic,you believe that God must bend to man's will.

[cubed07]

Salvation is like a gift you get from someone else. You didn't buy it, chose it, work for it, or anything. So what's left to do with this gift, believe and accept it. It's the same with CJ, what he did on the cross was give us a free gift that we simply need to accept much like you would accept the cure from the doctor for your disease. This doesn't make you sovereign at all because you didn't earn the gift, work for it, or anythig. It was provided because God sovereignly decreed so by his Love.

[DPMosteller]

@cubed07

You reason like a small child. If you have the option to accept or reject salvation, then you are sovereign, not God. I appreciate your sincerity, but you are wrong. Your very act of belief is a human work.

You are not qualified to be correcting someone of the stature of James White on this matter of salvation. You should be sensible and listen, and learn.

[cubed07]

@DPMosteller If man were sovereign as you claim my argument states, than man could come to heaven and to salvation through another means outside of Christ. God remains sovereign because he decrees that saved man enter heaven and condemned men who dont' believe enter hell. If man could change this through some other means than your rebuttal is good, but the Bible is clear that there is no other way so God remains sovereign cause He controls the only path to salvation.

[DPMosteller]

@cubed07

Wrong!

The question is how is a man saved? It is not a decision by the man. It is a sovereign work of God alone based on election (being chosen to salvation) to which the man is given the ability (a new heart) and desire (contrition) to repent and believe. It is a work of God alone, man has no sovereignty in the process.

God changes the man's heart, gives the man the necessary attitude and motivation to respond to Christ, and then accepts the man's response, ALL BY GRACE ALONE!

[cubed07]

@DPMosteller How can men be saved, it's through repenting and believing in CJ for salvatioin how is that wrong? Why are you rejecting Biblical doctrine that makes it clear on how men can be saved, but they must beliefve to be saved in order to be born again, shall I show you John 3:1-18 where Jesus makes it abundantly clear that belief is required to be born again. The sovereign work of God, Jesus answers this as I said before, the work of God is this, "To believe in the one He sent."

[cubed07]

@DPMosteller Furthurmore, man chosing to reject the gospel doesn't make men sovereign, because they are still sinners who will suffer eternal damnation for their sins, those that reject are prideful sinners who love their sin. And furthurmore belief and rejection are tandeum with free will, not forced by God as you would say.

[DPMosteller]

@cubed07

You obviously you were so anxious to respond, you did not read my response carefully enough. You do not understand this subject and seem unwilling to study it.. Please understand, I admire your interest and sincerity but you lack the requisite amount of insight on this subject to be able to debate it or come to a reasoned conclusion. Please study this subject further with quality materials from a reformed theologian.

[cubed07]

@DPMosteller You mean come to your faulty confusion that makes man mindless sycophants and God an evil tyrant cause He simply creates some people to be eternally reprobate and that they wont' be saved ever cause God won't allow them, this is so unbiblical and goes against CJ and the Bible as a whole. Don't read reformed theologian doctrine, it's so unbiblical, read the Bible. I'll show you John chapter 3 and blow your heresy out of the water that men is born again before belief.

[DPMosteller]

@cubed07

Wrong!

It would make man sovereign, because he would have the final decision whether to accept Christ or reject Christ. Have you never read "you did not choose me, but I chose you." What is free will? If by that you mean that man can choose between God, and his sin, then you are wrong! Free will only gives a man the choice of what kind of sin to pursue, what type of sin the man prefers. It does not give him the ability to choose God, to choose holiness and righteousness in Christ.

[cubed07]

@DPMosteller How are those men sovereign for rejecting God when they are burning in hell? Your argument makes no sense, sovereign means men can reject Christ and actually can get to heaven another way without Christ, which is of course impossible.. Men is not sovereign for those that reject can't come to God any other way, it's impossible thus men whether he rejects or accept the Gospel are still under the sovereign will of God which states believers go to heaven and non-believers go to hell.

[CBALLEN]

@cubed07 This is the Armenian position " O God, thou knowest that I am the architect of my own fortunes and the determiner of my own destiny. Thou mayest indeed do something to help me in the securing of my purposes after I have determined upon them. But my heart is my own, and thou canst not intrude into it; my will is my own, and thou canst not bend it. When I wish thy aid, I will call on thee for it. Meanwhile, thou must await my pleasure." - BB Warfield

[AgApE010]

Amen!

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[fralo70]

This is nothing but the truth! Praise the Lord!

[DPMosteller]

Yes. White always does his homework, and honors Christ in every exchange I've ever heard.

[Defendthefaithorg]

@DPMosteller Amen brotha'

[cubed07]

Not everyone will be saved, period. Not because God isn't able, he is fully able, however, man must chose to accept Christ into their lives. As for being chosen before the beginning, God knew who was going to accept and reject him and those were chosen ahead of time. I don't care how old you are or how many years you study the Bible, not everyone will be saved because they chose not to be and God out of love and granting them free will lets them suffer the consequences of their sins.

[CBALLEN]

@cubed07 @cubed07 So you claim God saw who would choose Him so He chose them before time?So actually God chose no one ,because as you say they chose God first.GOD INHABITS ALL OF TIME,so the scripture that Jesus loved us first would be wrong according to what you believe,because God saw that we first loved Him and responded by only then, loving us and choosing us.Those who God foreknew really means loved before hand or before time,not that He knew what actions we would take.

[cubed07]

@CBALLEN You are missing the point, when God sent Christ, He sent his Son to save all of mankind so in essence God chose man and provided the way to salvation. God wants us all to be saved, It's man who must reciprocate and either accept or reject Christ and this is how God is sovereign. God sovereignly decrees that the believers will inherit eternal life and the non-believers will suffer hell eternal.

[DPMosteller]

@cubed07

I agree with you. However, God is absolutely sovereign in everything. If He looked into the future at what a man was going to do, and made His decision on that basis; that would make man's decision the deciding factor. In other words, it would make man sovereign, not God. God is totally sovereign over everything in heaven and in this universe. He does not react to anything a man does or fails to do. He sovereignly chose those to be saved, and gave them the desire to do so. Monergism.

[DPMosteller]

@DPMosteller

Salvation is so difficult that only God can do it. How can a man make any choice about his eternal well being when he's dead? How much did you have to do with your physical birth? Anything? That's why Jesus used that term. Salvation is to be saved from God's wrath, by God's grace alone in offering His Son's life in exchange for ours, and it is to be to God's glory alone. No one, and I mean no one will be able to take any credit for making the decision to accept Christ. God made it.

[DPMosteller]

@DPMosteller

Check out Grace To You, John MacArthur's website. He has free audio messages you can download and videos on this subject. His best message is called Who Chose Whom? The doctrine of election really humbles you when you realize you had nothing to do with your salvation, that it was all of God. He really meant what He said in Eph. 2:8-9 , not of works lest any man should boast.

Salvation is not just someone deciding to jump out of the line to death, into the line for eternal life.

[bmd200]

Well said!

[bmd200]

It was like God said you are not going to end up like this. I could never explain it. I dont deserve His peace and love and I cant stop telling others about Him!

[DPMosteller]

Really well said brother! Well said! I feel the same way. How in the world did I ever get into this? I don't deserve it at all, but I am very, very grateful!

[bmd200]

this has made me even more thankful. for years I have been saying ..how did I get saved? I read that Spurgean had said the same thing. I used to argue with Christians , now for the last 9 years I cant stop sharing Him. The Lord has had so much mercy on me way before I was saved that I would almost get survivors guilt because of my friends who had suffered tragic endings and I was spared and healed.

[DPMosteller]

Everyone starts life as Arminian, and I mean 100%. It just seems we had some part in the process since I did make a decision for Christ. The point is, He made a decision for me first, then gave me life and a new heart to respond to Him in faith. You're standing square on a tremendous truth. Just like He said... you did not choose me, but I chose you.

[bmd200]

I have to admitt, you cant get around what the bible says even if you dont like it. You may not like it but you cant say that election is'nt in there.

[DPMosteller]

Well said. It is the most hated of the Biblical doctrines. It destroys our pride. We had nothing to do with our salvation. We were dead in our sin, Christ gave us life. So we get none of the glory, not even a little bit, and that's what it says... that no one should boast. That's why Jesus said you must be born again... how much did we have to do with our birth? That's why He used that illustration. It's a gift of God. So, be thankful! You were chosen by God before the foundation of the world!

[DPMosteller]

What are you saying, or trying to say? I honestly don't know where you are going with this, or where you're coming from?

I cannot post videos on this channel over 10 minutes in length. I was born in Phoenix, Arizona and know James White in passing. I have most all of his work, give his books as gifts, and have supported his ministry for many years. Are you saying I am in disagreement with him somewhere?

[ReformedTheology5]

Lol i almost thought DPM was arguing with himself there lol...ah, i got it ;-). James White is right. If you watched his whole debate vs. Bryson, vs. Hunt (vs. who else on Calvinism? DPM), you would have nothing left to say, GUARANTEED. White is graceful, yet firm in his approach...

To the person who disagrees, you REALLY need to get his full debates from AOMIN or u're missing CONTEXT n the best parts, even funny parts that make u go "ouch" and laugh really hard! PROMISE! Read Mt. 11:25-27! :-)

[hookem052590]

t deny it. its THROUGHOUT scripture. i have a problem w/ calvenists that continually say "actually..thats not what the bible REALLY means..it actually means..." its twisting it to make it back up a view.

there are countless references to choosing to accept & reject God. its true, sometimes God doens't reveal himself, & sometimes chooses to justly reject the sinner. but, that DOESNT mean that other times, we have no choice. accepting undeserved love from God is biblical. Irristible grace isnt.

[DPMosteller]

I can appreciate you heartfelt concern, and to listen to you is an encouragement that a new generation of young Christians is coming up and want to be involved. However, if indeed, you are 18, let me give a little advise. When I was 18 I felt the same way you do, for the most part. But, over the last 40 years you do continue to grow in Christ, and the knowledge of His Word. Your theology at this point is somewhat confused. I can't and won't try to address all of the issues, but a couple.

[DPMosteller]

The issue is seldom what the Bible says. The real issue, is what does the Bible mean by what is says. And a commitment to the classic hermeneutic of the literal, historical, grammatical interpretation of Scripture will serve you well all the days of your life. Check out Grace To You with Dr. John MacArthur.

[hookem052590]

DPMosteller, id like to say that irresistible grace is not biblical. it is the one part of TULIP that i, and countless other theologians and calvenists, seem to have the hardest time accepting.

the problem is this. calvesist JUMP from the idea that god uncoditionally elects and that not all are called TO the idea that grace is irrisistible. sure, there may be a little back up for it biblically. but those passages can be interptited different ways. CHOOSING god is CLEARLY in scripture, you canno

[DPMosteller]

Wrong! You're contradicting yourself. If God is sovereign, as you said He was, the Alpha and Omega, Beginning and End, then who can resist His grace? Who? Who is in charge of this universe besides God? Who made up the guest list for the wedding banquet of The Lamb? Who chose His Bride, The Church?

Do you think just anyone can jump out of the line going to hell into the line going to heaven apart from His election? Again, you claim God is sovereign, what does that really mean? Think it through.

[hookem052590]

, NOT all his followers in general

also, id like so say what if both views have alot of truth in them. Uniqimage, election is biblical. god IS soverign, his will is final, He does whatver he wills in order to get glory. we, as finite and stupid humans, CANNOT question his will. Hes always right, no matter what we may think. God, in many instances throughout the bible, can receive glory through ways that we might say "oh wait, thats not fair". doesnt matter. we deserve hell. the bible is clear

[DPMosteller]

I agree! You are absolutely right!

And, a half truth does have a lot of truth in it. But it also contains error. How much error should be entertained in theology? Not much? That's why study is so important, to understand the deep things of God and to show ourselves approved before our Heavenly Father.

[DPMosteller]

Check out Monergism . com its a great sight. And the Puritan library. An understanding of monergism will help you greatly on this issue.

You are now neck deep in one of the most hotly debated, heavily studied, but still, least understood areas of theology. But, you are also in for the most exciting, the most thrilling and God honoring, faith building and conviction strengthening times in your walk with your Lord and Savior. He is greater and more awesome in His power and love than you know.

[DPMosteller]

I'm proud of your commitment to Christ, and your commitment to the Truth of His Word! And the strength of your convictions is great!. Don't ever let them languish from a cool or indifferent heart for the things of God. I wish I still had the discoveries ahead of me that you have. I don't mean I know everything, I have barely scratched the surface, but I remember when these great doctrines of Christ and His Supremacy of everything in Heaven and Earth came into focus, the reality just crushed me.

[DPMosteller]

You think you love Christ now? Just wait till you know more about His love and provision for you!!!

The doctrine of election is often "God sends men to Hell." No! Their sin does. But there's another side; God is so gracious, so loving, and so merciful that He makes absolutely certain that ANYONE and EVERYONE who would want to spend eternity loving His Son Jesus Christ out of a true and pure heart of gratitude and thanksgiving, for what He has done, will be able to. He does that by election.

[cubed07]

"To show ourselves approved before our Heavenly Father", this is a major part of your heresy. The Bible makes it's plainly clear that THEIR IS NOTHING WE CAN DO TO EARN GOD'S APPROVAL. All good works are considered filthy rags before God. We gain God's approval because we accepted Christ into our lives that's it. No Christ, no salvation, no heaven, eternity in hell. Get used to it.

[CBALLEN]

You are saved because God chose you,it was not your choice.

[DPMosteller]

Well said brother. We love Christ because He first loved us, and by grace regenerated us by His precious Holy Spirit that we might love Him, and choose to follow Him as Lord.

[CBALLEN]

AAAMMEEENNN!!

[CBALLEN]

@cubed07 The Bible tells us that God decreed ALL THINGS,but what you are saying is that God did NOT decree all things,but rather depended on man to decree some things.What you have shown those reading your comments is that you have a sub-biblical understanding of scripture,you are saying that God must work HIS WILL around man's will,this is absolutely heretical.

[cubed07]

@CBALLEN Keep in mind, were talking about salvation here and God decrees that those who beleve in Christ will be saved and those who don't will burn in hell for eternity. There, is that simple enough, that's God decree for salvation. Belief can't be forced for belief comes before born again, read John 3:1-18.

[CBALLEN]

@cubed07 You claim that belief comes before being born again?Not according to Jesus.What did He tell Nicodemus?You must be born again first.

[cubed07]

@CBALLEN Please read John 3:1-18, yes Jesus says you must be born again, but later on Nicodemus asks a second question, "How can this be" or in essence "How do I become born again." Jesus replies that it's belief in Him that is required to be born again. Belief comes before born again when you read John 3:1-18. Furthurmore Jesus says in v 18 that the condemned are those who don't believe, not because God didn't regenerate them.

[CBALLEN]

@cubed07 @cubed07 You claim that Jesus loved and died for everyone,sheep and goats,yet the Bible says that Jesus lay down His life for the sheep.Jesus told the Pharisees that they were NOT His sheep and that they would not escape Hell.If you are correct,then Jesus should have told them how they could make themselves one of His sheep,but He did not,instead He told them that they had no hope and could not escape Hell.I'll bet you tell people that all can be Jesus' sheep,don't you?

[cubed07]

@CBALLEN Jesus did tell the pharisees, but they didn't listen to Him because they're pride and evilness. Most of the time Jesus spoke about truth and salvation, the Bible makes note that the Pharisees heard the statement. What did they do with the knowledge of Christ, they rejected it and planned to kill him.

[DPMosteller]

@cubed07

I appreciate your sincerity, but this material is over your head, but you don't believe it, and seem totally unwilling to study. Have you never read "STUDY TO SHOW YOURSELF APPROVED UNTO GOD, A WORKMAN THAT NEEDETH NOT TO BE ASHAMED, RIGHTLY DIVIDING THE WORD OF TRUTH." 2 Tim 2:15

[CBALLEN]

@cubed07 1 John 5:1 tells it like it is,if anyone believes in Jesus,they have been born of God.If A man in his natural lost ,dead state is not first born of God,he won't ever believe.You believe that Jesus' sacrifice was so man could take it or leave it,but the truth is,Jesus' sacrifice will save every single person that it was intended for.

[cubed07]

John 5:1, Whoever believes that Jesus is the Christ is "born of God" and everyone who loves Him who begot also loves him who is begotten of Him. The verse doesn't say that born again comes before belief, but that whoever believes is born again. Belief comes first that's why the Bible puts being belief before born again in this verse. And read John 3:1-18 Jesus settles this debate by declaring that belief comes before being born again and not after it.

[CBALLEN]

@cubed07 You forgot about Jesus' words to Nicodemus,He did not say you must believe first,He said you must be born again first.Acts 13:48 tells us that those appointed to eternal life......believed.This is consistent with Eph1.God has made HIS choice and all who HE has chosen will come when called.You don't go bah to become a SHEEP ,you go bah BECAUSE YOU ARE A SHEEP! GOATS REMAIN AS GOATS FROM BIRTH THROUGH ETERNITY.

[hookem052590]

I believe you guys are both right. no one seems to realize that theres a BALANCE between the two views.

first, id like to point out that it seems that rev white is taking one of his main supporting passages out of context and twisting it. he makes it seem like when jesus says "i do not pray for the world, i pray only for those you have given me", that jesus is referring to ALL of christianity. by throughly and examining the text without a bias, its clear that jesus is referring to his disciples

[DPMosteller]

What is your background? How many years have you studied this material? White has taught advanced classes in both Greek and Hebrew. Have you? In 50 years from now, do you feel you will know more or less than you do now? Would you attempt to perform open heart surgery this afternoon without medical school and residency? Why not?

What passage did White take out of context and twist? How is it out of context? How did he twist it? What does the passage mean? How many of his books have you read?

[DPMosteller]

Balance between the two views? Wrong! Either God is sovereign in this matter or man is sovereign. There is no middle ground. With all due respect, a little humility on your part would go along way here.

Bias? You just backed up a dump truck full of bias, and dumped the whole load. I understand that its based on an initial misunderstanding of the doctrine, a youthful simplistic perspective, and lack of training and study. But to launch out into theology and straighten out everyone is premature.

[DPMosteller]

Wrong! God does not elect anyone to go to Hell, they receive justice for their own sin. Sin sends men to Hell against the will of God who would have them to be saved.

Wrong! You cannot jump out of the line going to Hell and jump into the line going to Heaven. Regeneration is a monergistic work of God on the level of the creation of the universe.

Wrong! If you knew the Bible like you think you do, you would agree with the Bible on this point. I am sorry, you are so blinded by your arrogance.

[DPMosteller]

Wrong!

[DPMosteller]

In any interplay or confrontation between a person and information, the first test is not the veracity of the information, but the truthfulness of the person. Ravi Zacharias

The truth is exclusive. God is Truth. His Word is Truth. You need to develop an understanding of God's Truth and how to handle it correctly before you export it.

From your response I must conclude you would perform open heart surgery without training.

You need to honestly understand an issue before criticizing it.

[DPMosteller]

Perform this simple test. On one side of a sheet of paper list all the great theologians who agree with you. On the other, list all sovereign grace theologians. You will find one side looks rather pitiful, while the other looks like the dream team of theology. Before you take on Christ's greatest theologians, I would do a little more objective study on the subject.

[DPMosteller]

So, your love for Christ is not sufficient to motivate you to move on from being a child? Remember 1 John 2:12 I write unto you little children... young men mighty in the scriptures... fathers who have known Him who is from the beginning.

Seminary is a struggle in so many ways. But I never realized there would be so many in the church who wanted to build monuments to doctrinal ignorance. Can you read the scriptures in Greek and Hebrew? White has taught advanced post grad classes in both.

[DPMosteller]

"The old truth that Calvin preached, that Augustine preached, that Paul preached, is the truth that I must preach today, or else be false to my conscience and my God. I cannot shape the truth; I know of no such thing as paring off the rough edges of a doctrine. John Knox's gospel is my gospel. That which thundered through Scotland must thunder through England again."—C. H. Spurgeon "A Defense of Calvinism."

The only reason election is taught, is because the Bible teaches it.

[DPMosteller]

You have an arrogance about you, but not according to the knowledge of scripture. One of the greatest marks of genuine regeneration is great humility.

The deep things of scripture are not like diamonds simply laying on the ground for children to come along and gather up. You need to study to show yourself approved, so you don't have to be ashamed at moments like this.

I appreciate your zeal and interest. But, you need maturity to understand the doctrine of election. It is 100% revealed.

[DPMosteller]

Free will? Define it. The only free will man has according to scripture is the ability to choose the type of sin that best suits his personality. He has no option to choose righteousness, to choose God since the fall.

Allowed to eat the fruit? Love is not possible without the option not to love. God didn't make robots. He does not force mankind to love Him or one another.

It is one of the highest principles of scripture. Checkout Monergism . com and you'll have a greater love for Christ.

[DPMosteller]

You would not try to perform open heart surgery without years of medical school and residency. This material is more important, and how much greater the need for study and preparation. That's why teachers come under greater scrutiny and judgment.

God is so gracious, that He lets all of us feel secure and complete at whatever level of Christian maturity we have achieved. But that does not mean we shouldn't dig for Truth as we would for gold, silver, and precious stones. Continue to dig brother.

[FirebrandNIRE]

Awesome