Debunking the Shirley Temple in The Wizard of Oz Myth Judy Garland Me and my Shadows

[thalialuvmx]

this is so sad....judy was the definitely the most talented child star of that era but she was treated like crap. always being told that she didn't measure up...smh poor thing

[lilgiggler35]

the scene near the end of the clip never happened. Judy had a gift for embellishing a story and her daughters state the the "you dirty old men , let that little girl in there" was just a story that Judy made up for that interview on the spot for a laugh.

[friendsfamilyaccount]

@lilgiggler35 Nobody ever says "you dirty old men" - it's "you dirty hams" A ham actor is a performer who overacts or is exaggerating and it's all in fun. Hardly a dirty old man! Also, it may or may not have happened and the entire thing was in jest anyway - so we're to say they never had fun on the set? Actually I believe it was the stories about the munchkins that Liza stated she exaggerated.

[shewearsfunnyhat]

Actually, Shirley Temple was offered the part by MGM. Twentieth Century-Fox declined the offer and cast her in Susannah of the Mounties instead. Perhaps you should actually read some books instead of getting all of your "proof" from a movie. This fact is discussed in the books Shirley Temple: American Princess and The Films of Shirley Temple..

[friendsfamilyaccount]

@shewearsfunnyhat That's not the point. Perhaps YOU should read the Ajean Harmetz book on the making of the film - look at the timeline! Take a look at the ACTUAL studio records. And am I to believe you are SERIOUSLY quoting the RAG biographer Anne Edwards?? ROTFL!

[Wizard488]

Perhaps Judy didn't like playing another little girl. But, 'The Wizard of Oz' is one of the world's best movies. I'm sure she appreciates it now.

[volleyball994pimp]

@Wizard488 I'm sure the fame and fortune was well worth her life with contsant drug addiction to pills playing this movie started her on. i'm sure it was well worth it.

[me323]

I noticed a slight error. When Mayer gives Judy the book, the title of the book is 'The Wizard of Oz'. The 1939 movie was simply called 'The Wizard of Oz', whereas the actual book title was 'The Wonderful Wizard of Oz'. Just a slight observation there.

[YumikoSasaki14]

was this ever released outside of the us? I want to watch it so badly but cant find it anywhere in my country >_<

[1683az89]

@5:55 Tin Man - no no don't feed the animals, they work better when they are hungry. and @ 6:53 Tin Man - I almost step on that dog again, Lion - what dog. hahahaha

[ElphabaoftheWest]

That chick is a split image of Judy Garland back in the day! With the dorothy costume, exact match! :D

[JustLiveLikeUrDying]

ohh dang...have you guys seen the actual dress of dorthy in the original wizard of oz that judy garland wore? i have ....and that thing is super mini....you would mistake it to be one of the munchkins outfits no joke...definitely not fat

[LibranWay]

Damn Hollywood..will chew your ass up & spit you out looking like bubble gum & not give a damn about it. Judy Garland, Marilyn Monroe, Michael Jackson, you get my drift.

Then when they're dead & gone after enduring the BS of the public accusing them as being washed up tired acts..."Oh he was such an artist, Oh she was so talented"...and so on with them not recieving a shred of all that loving admiration while they are still around to hear & recieve it. The general public are such hypocrites.

[ilubvhugs]

poor judy.....she was most definately not FAT!

[benco007]

She looks so much like Judy, especially wearing that Dorothy costume...

[kc86er]

Those actors playing Ray Bolger, Bert Lahr, and Jack Haley (Scarecrow, Lion, Tin Man) look and sound NOTHING like them

[9ALLEN9]

Tammy looks so much like Judy Garland, it's unbelievable. Perfect casting.....99% looks exactly like her....wow...

[manuel11galvan]

I really want to watch this movie any ways on how to ???? Online of course

[tbottoms985]

@manuel11galvan I really want to watch this too! did you ever find a way online? id really appreiciate it!

[pics2share]

I loved this when I saw it years ago. The 2 female leads were incredibly

well-cast. I actually thought I was really watching Judy...

[276Smiley]

I didn't know this exsisted untill 5 seconds ago, but I love it!! :O

[entertainer1987]

When Judy, Bert, Ray, and Jack were filming this scene they lip-syncing to a track that was pre-recorded by Judy, Ray, Bert, and Buddy Ebsen, (the actor who was originally cast as the Tin Man). There was no time to re-record the group singing "Off To See the Wizard" in the trio and quartet versions. Jack Haley only recorded his solo parts in songs.

[jazzandmint]

"Have a heart, Victor!" Something tells me that the trio actually did exchange that sort of witty banter constantly. "Don't feed the animals!" :)

[GirlX12345]

It's so sweet that Judy and the people who played the Scarecrow, Tinman, and Lion got along together so well!

[lilluv89]

haha! Judy's mom's face when Judy grabs the knife! Judy was one of the best entertainers of all time. I actually don't think Lana Turner was a blonde during the filming of this movie. And according to Mickey Rooney's bio he had already met Lana and gotten he pregnant when she was 15. She had an abortion and didn't tell him anything until years later.

[cantbackdown123]

Theangelkap it's the wizard of oz

[cantbackdown123]

Theangelcap it's the wizard of oz

[sexyfatbastid]

They did such a good job portraying Judy Garland both young AND old,...

The scarecrow makes for a good Ray Bolger,...but neither the tin man, nor the cowardly lion made for good substitutes for Haley & Lahr. It would've made all the difference.

[calloia567]

The lion must really hate his job!!!lol:)

[KISstudio12]

wow she looks just like her.. when they stated the wiz of oz and she was standing on the yellow brick road it looked just like judy

[invaderzim1414]

5:07 the resemblance is unbelievable!!!

[DudeSinger]

*grabs knife* cake??Mickey could have had Judy at any point and look where he went, for a dumb blond

[DudeSinger]

*grabs knife* cake??

[TheatreGeekish]

every time i see tammy in this movie i keep telling myself "it's not judy garland, it's not judy garland, it's not judy garland"

[blondbergers]

it's scary how this girl LOOKS like judy garland as dorothy gale... HOLY CRAP!!

[PinkoLady]

The casting in this was so perfect... Lindy Booth is an amazing Lana Turner.

[LittleMak1]

wow, shirley was only 9 and could have gotten Dorothy. Judy was the best choice, she was older and had a great singing voice. having a little 9yr old would have been too much and not the same. even though i love shirley, they made a right decision

[ISleepNow]

"I'll eat the basket, I'll eat the dog.. " :D

[theangelkap]

what movie is this???

[Blogrich55]

Great clip! Thanks for sharing. This is my favorite movie.

[thebrittcorre]

"this role would have been too much, for any 10 year old..." cant under estimate the power of a ten year old. Before shirley came along, im sure many said " no 4 year old can learn to tap like bojojangles." .. "Jean Harlow died more than half a year before, Way too early to EVER have been part of an Oz negotiation" is not necessarily true. It takes YEARS to make big decisions in the acting business. Shirley is well over 9 now, and she obviously knows the truth and has no reason to lie.

[1203kitkat]

@thebrittcorre Jean Harlow died June 7 1937, MGM bought the movie rights to 'The Wonderful Wizard of Oz' in January of 1938. So that would be to early to make decisions on casting. It took a total of 18 months from pre-production in Jan. 1938 to the release date in Aug. 1939, so yes it was way too early to EVER have been part of an Oz negotiation. Jean Harlow had died 7 months before MGM even had the rights.

[crazyonemexican]

I can't believe they would do this to stars like Judy Garland back then. Judy Garland had so much energy, talent, life in her... She didn't need those pills, then again, stars back then weren't given ample time to rest properly in order to perform in a healthy manner. I mean, I see her in musicals and all the life and beautiful talent she gives us is enough to show how amazing she was without needing those pills that consumed her whole life away. This movie breaks my heart :-(

[WillScarlet16]

Ethel Gumm was the REAL Wicked Witch of the West.

[cinerama62]

The line where the Tinman says, I almost step on that dog again, is true, Toto (Terry) was stepped on by one of the Munchins. he was off for two weeks. Thanks friendsfamily

[71crm]

Judy is not fat!!! This is the kind of thing that leads people into eating disorders because the people around her tell her she should lose some weight! She looks great onscreen and offscreen. And FYI...I would take cake over a cigarette any day!

[hayamatsuka]

Awww bless her.

[keanufan09]

If judy's mother was any kind of mother she wouldnt allow them to put judy on pills, judy was not fat and it's really sad that their are stage mothers like judy's mom that are trying to live out their dreams in their own kids

[friendsfamilyaccount]

@keanufan09 I'm not entirely sure Mrs G was portrayed 100% accurately here. Judy and and her mom did not get along; Judy had a lot of animosity towards here mostly because of her dad. So keep in mind this is Judy's account as told to Lorna. Not to say it ISN'T true, but as with a lot Judy said, should be taken w/a grain of salt. Also, amphetamines weren't understood back then; nor the addiction. Mickey Rooney was also addicted, but he kicked it. Poor Judy was never really given the chance.

[Rickyrab]

Turns out Shirley Temple DID do an Oz show, apparently as Ozma on "The Shirley Temple Show".

[TaylortheTuckerGirl]

she looks SO MUCH like judy!!!

[marcosvalenca]

@lafea34 Most stars didn't like Louis B. Mayer. Dame Elizabeth Taylor stood up against him once when when he mistreated her mother. The only one who seemed to really like him and called him Papa Mayer was June Allison.

[ziggycat999]

Yeah me too....I agree with sidetable 1

[ziggycat999]

Yeah me too....I agree with sidetable 1

[helfifteen]

Can u upload the whole movie!!!!!!!!!!!

[Holden448mex]

Boy, that blond woman was hot, don't tell me how old she is now.

[rubyhuedglasses]

"This is the last straw." Haha, that sounds like something Ray Bolger would really say.

[MissGarland18]

Screw Lana Turner...(And who didnt???....)

God I love Judy Garland lol...I love her so much!!! =)

[Pixiebabylove]

i've just ordered this dvd from amazon, very excited to watch the whole thing :D

[DudeSinger]

The way That Micky Rooney dissed her made it look like Judy was jelous of Lana Turner

[marcosvalenca]

@DudeSinger Garland WAS jelous of Lana Turner and almost all other great beauties. She was always over critical about herself and insecure. Sometimes even selfdestructive.

[nicholasbarwick]

were can i see this whole moive

[Kelnosha]

I thought Judy was 14 when she got the part for Dorothy?

[thekingzliar]

No she was 16

[josh200908]

@Kelnosha noo she was 16.. she did the movie when she was 17.. i think..

[DisWldFrk90]

I don't know how the Gene Harlow myth got started as the poster pointed out she died before MGM even had the rights to this movie. But I think it's perfectly possible that was an excuse made up by Fox because I think it would be quite embarassing for them to admit their top money maker didn't have a strong enough singing talent for a big role like this. MGM's side of the story makes more sense. That Judy was the first choice and they very briefly considered Shirley because she was a bigger name.

[sidetable1]

Could you put up the whole movie Me and My Shadows- The Judy Garland story. I could watch this movie over and over again.

[friendsfamilyaccount]

sorry - can't. I actually had another scene from this on here and it was pulled down for copyright. I'd suggest trying to get the DOUBLE VHS version that was mail order only (not the crummy one they sold in Walmart later on) and converting it to DVD since the DVD versions are incomplete also, from what I read. This was from the vhs version.

[mygreatlovenova]

@sidetable1 Me too it is soooooooooooo good

[superhetoric]

another myth - judy fans know judy embellished here and there for interesting stories, particularly this one told on the jack parr show! fleming never said "you three dirty hams, let that little girl in there".

[NoMoreBubbleGum1]

It is true that Shirley was the first choice for the role of Dorothy, but her studio she was signed to would not release her for the amount of time it would take to make the film and ever her talents were not at the scope for the part of the Wizard of Oz.

[maleficentdiva]

that girl who played Lana Turner, was a REAL BITCH, If I was Judy, I would have told her off! ( I don't like her because she is a BLONDE!) again with the blonde hair, Blondes are always portrayed as fake, bitchy and sluts! Judy Garland was a very pretty girl. Very nice looking and sweet! that never goes out of style! being fake is never good! LOVE YOU JUDY! RIP DEAR ONE!

[maleficentdiva]

I actually think Judy looked good in the pink dress and the red wig, for Dorothy, that look would have been nice, The blonde wig did not look right, I get so tired of people thinking that everyone always has to be blonde! (I am a natural redhead, pale skin and blue eyes and I think that combination is the best for coloring) anyway, I LOVE YOU JUDY, I CAN'T WAIT TO MEET YOU IN HEAVEN, YOU ARE MY ANGEL! RIP IN PEACE DEAR ONE! :)

[xxflyingsoulxx101]

@maleficentdiva Jeez.... what do you have against blonde people, lol.

[maleficentdiva]

OMG this is scary,  Tammy looks just like her! WOW!!!!

[YeahhhMatee]

He looks nothing like Mickey Rooney.

[9ALLEN9]

@YeahhhMatee THANK YOU! Obviously the movie isn't about Rooney, but it wouldnt hurt to add to the realism by casting someon who looks more like him lol

[LibranWay]

@YeahhhMatee Just like Judy Davis looks NOTHING like Judy Garland. Tammy should've portrayed Garland through the whole film and just age her with Hollywood make-up artists because she was SOO much more believable as Judy Garland then Judy Davis was...no offense to Davis and all, but it's just the truth.

[lovesthelonelyisland]

She does look just like her! Amazing!

[gordielaforg]

she looks just like judy garland in this...its amazing..

[MissGarland18]

MGM was going to borrow Shirley from another studio. But then they realized that the part was too big and needed a better singing voice, so they told Judy she could have it if she lost some weight, which then led to her being put on a chicken noodle soup diet...and I'm guessing the dress is pink because it had to be died, it had a pink undertone for the technocolor could pick it up or something-=)

[MargeinCharge98]

There was never a choice for a dress to be pink, there was a choice for a red dress, though.

[KaTzaNdSTuFf]

Holy crap. That looks exactly like Judy!

[iscreamer1]

this is beyond compare! and what happens? they make one mistake, Dorothy's blouse is pale pink!

[friendsfamilyaccount]

I didn't notice that, but that would actually be accurate. If you've seen pictures of the original outfit, the whites ARE pink because under the early Technicolor lights, it would photograph white. True whites were never used; they would have come up blinding.

[marcosvalenca]

@friendsfamilyaccount My God, you really did your homework. What details you know!

[gostars3000]

Is the young man in the beginning hugging Judy supposed to be Mickey Rooney?

[4262009AP]

Yes!

[ellieandbuster]

Do you have the rest of this movie? I'd love to watch it.

[Gianetta]

They even include that myth in The Wizard of Oz documentaries! I think it's like the 'hanged munchkin' story - people prefer the legend to the truth. But yes, Judy the first choice for Dorothy.

[friendsfamilyaccount]

It's also in A&E's biography of Shirley Temple....some Hollywood myths never die.

[libby1994]

@Gianetta I know right they a bit of the trivia in it. Like how they kept changing her costume, how the three had to rest against the boards on breaks and even when tin man say wheres the dog i think i stepped on it again. But the myth is definetly Judy Garland