I have to vent a bit: Seriously people, when a band has incorporated a certain aspect to their music SINCE DAY ONE, why then, 10 years later, are you still bitching about it, and how the music would be better without it? It's an integral part of their sound so either deal with it or go find something else to listen to!
I have 2 comment about the grunts and growls. I don't like it. Simone is a great singer and they should keep it that way keep keep away the growls and grunts.
Without that it can be a great band. Evanescence, Within Temptation and other bands don't growls and grunts......sooooo BAN IT
@Elsidu13 Evanescence is not even on the same level as Epica. Not even close. Ev is pop-rock with a goth metal influence. Epica is SYMPHONIC METAL. You don't like growls, go listen to a band without them. Epica has always used them as part of their sound. They've been around for 10 years, so if you haven't come to terms with that by now, you really should. Epica= great music, great lyrics, and 2 distinct vocal types: clean female vocals AND harsh male vocals.
@Elsidu13 Oh and to clear something up, Ev has experimented with harsh male vocals. From their Origin album the song Lies. Youtube search Evanescence - Origin - Lies, and listen to from 2:50 onwards. Just for the record I do like Evanescence, but call them what they are, they are not anywhere near Epica. The only reference people draw is female fronted band, and so constantly try to compare the two.
@Deke1 The "stupid" grunts and growls are an integral part of the Epica sound, and have been since day one. Without them, it would not be the same. It adds depth, the contrast between the metal and the symphonic, the harsh vocals and the clean vocals, is what Epica is about. If you can't come to terms with that by their 5th album, then perhaps Epica is not the band for you.
As far as the grunts/growls go, I used to agree to a large extent but learned to appreciate them as part of Epica's amazing music.
Then something else hit me like a brick; Listen to Sirenia's first two albums that had a lot of grunts/growls, then listen to their latest 3 albums...There's no comparison in actual music quality to my ears. The first two are awesome metal, the last 3 are borderline pop rock.
The last thing I want is for Epica to lose what makes them Epica, like Sirenia did, IMO.
I swear, band members should never try to get the audience to clap along because 1 out of 5 people will never be on time and it sounds laughably bad because of it..
Epica is a great band but they really need to do away with the stupid grunts and growls, it adds nothing to the otherwise great music and fantastic female front vocals
@Deke1 I'm not agree. They are free to do anything they want. If this is the expression selected i'll respect that. In my opinion with the growls had create a good contrast with the beutiful voice of Simone, that's part of the music like other great symphonic bands like Haggard or Rhapsody.
@Deke1 No no no. There are a lot of people who like grunts/growling. It adds a dimension to music that regular vocals cannot. Epica would not be Epica without growling, don't be so opinionated. If you don't like it, Epica is not the band for you!
@Deke1 I see where you are coming from, but I don't think they should completely remove harsh vocals. I do think they add to the music. One motif in the tone of their music has always been contrast, in light vs. dark, soft vs. harsh, etc. That's what makes them interesting and exciting. Chasing the Dragon is one of my favorite songs and I think the radio edit sucks ass because they took out most of the bridge, which includes grunts as well as other things, and that makes the song not as potent.
Now that's the simone I wanted to see!!
pikachula123 19 hours ago
I have to vent a bit: Seriously people, when a band has incorporated a certain aspect to their music SINCE DAY ONE, why then, 10 years later, are you still bitching about it, and how the music would be better without it? It's an integral part of their sound so either deal with it or go find something else to listen to!
theforgottenone407 6 days ago
@theforgottenone407 SO TRUE! the grunts/growls are what make epica unique. why would we want another copy of evanescence or within temptation?
masterleonnoel 3 days ago
@masterleonnoel Exactly! Diversity is the key. If each band sounded the same we would get tired of music very quickly.
theforgottenone407 3 days ago
I have 2 comment about the grunts and growls. I don't like it. Simone is a great singer and they should keep it that way keep keep away the growls and grunts.
Without that it can be a great band. Evanescence, Within Temptation and other bands don't growls and grunts......sooooo BAN IT
Elsidu13 1 week ago
@Elsidu13 Evanescence is not even on the same level as Epica. Not even close. Ev is pop-rock with a goth metal influence. Epica is SYMPHONIC METAL. You don't like growls, go listen to a band without them. Epica has always used them as part of their sound. They've been around for 10 years, so if you haven't come to terms with that by now, you really should. Epica= great music, great lyrics, and 2 distinct vocal types: clean female vocals AND harsh male vocals.
theforgottenone407 6 days ago
@Elsidu13 Oh and to clear something up, Ev has experimented with harsh male vocals. From their Origin album the song Lies. Youtube search Evanescence - Origin - Lies, and listen to from 2:50 onwards. Just for the record I do like Evanescence, but call them what they are, they are not anywhere near Epica. The only reference people draw is female fronted band, and so constantly try to compare the two.
theforgottenone407 6 days ago
@Deke1 The "stupid" grunts and growls are an integral part of the Epica sound, and have been since day one. Without them, it would not be the same. It adds depth, the contrast between the metal and the symphonic, the harsh vocals and the clean vocals, is what Epica is about. If you can't come to terms with that by their 5th album, then perhaps Epica is not the band for you.
theforgottenone407 1 week ago
As far as the grunts/growls go, I used to agree to a large extent but learned to appreciate them as part of Epica's amazing music.
Then something else hit me like a brick; Listen to Sirenia's first two albums that had a lot of grunts/growls, then listen to their latest 3 albums...There's no comparison in actual music quality to my ears. The first two are awesome metal, the last 3 are borderline pop rock.
The last thing I want is for Epica to lose what makes them Epica, like Sirenia did, IMO.
IKillPigeons22 1 week ago
@IKillPigeons22
"As far as the PEOPLE that don't like the grunts/growls go" is what I meant in the first line.
IKillPigeons22 1 week ago
3:40 !!!!
Earthbound1993 2 weeks ago
What did you film this with? Video's great of course, but the audio is fantastic :D
fuzzo73 2 weeks ago 3
@fuzzo73 Thank you :)
I use a Panasonic Lumix TZ7.
vampyre76 2 weeks ago
SIMONE SCREAM?? LOL
TheSymmetryDark 2 weeks ago
I swear, band members should never try to get the audience to clap along because 1 out of 5 people will never be on time and it sounds laughably bad because of it..
HalcyonSunset 2 weeks ago
@HalcyonSunset I agree. Unless it's South America, they are such maniacs they never seem to lose time :D
fuzzo73 2 weeks ago
Epica is a great band but they really need to do away with the stupid grunts and growls, it adds nothing to the otherwise great music and fantastic female front vocals
Deke1 3 weeks ago 2
@Deke1 atleast he got better.
LEEVINNNN 2 weeks ago
@Deke1 I'm not agree. They are free to do anything they want. If this is the expression selected i'll respect that. In my opinion with the growls had create a good contrast with the beutiful voice of Simone, that's part of the music like other great symphonic bands like Haggard or Rhapsody.
Adanedher 2 weeks ago
@Deke1 While I agree I think we need to just accept that they aren't going to get rid of them and love the band for what it is, which is amazing.
inkenyo 2 weeks ago
@Deke1 No no no. There are a lot of people who like grunts/growling. It adds a dimension to music that regular vocals cannot. Epica would not be Epica without growling, don't be so opinionated. If you don't like it, Epica is not the band for you!
Glywysing942 2 weeks ago 2
@Deke1 I see where you are coming from, but I don't think they should completely remove harsh vocals. I do think they add to the music. One motif in the tone of their music has always been contrast, in light vs. dark, soft vs. harsh, etc. That's what makes them interesting and exciting. Chasing the Dragon is one of my favorite songs and I think the radio edit sucks ass because they took out most of the bridge, which includes grunts as well as other things, and that makes the song not as potent.
tremapar 1 week ago
My most anticipated album of 2012
tremapar 1 month ago 11
Excelent audio/video!! :D Thanks for sharing
RoDCnR 1 month ago 4