This is a very informative video. The only problem is that working down the leg instead of up the leg (which is the way the blood flows back to the heart) can cause problems with the veins.
@UkPR0 Agreed to a point. A skilled bodyworker will have you back on form much sooner than simply resting. Massage is far from a perfect solution, especially for the likes of shin splints, but it can be effective especially coupled with rehab. I've a couple of dancers at the moment who are responding well to treatment. They can't afford to lay off training so remedial intervention isn't an option. The massage profession suffers from a very wide gamut. Find a good one, keep them and tell others.
@UkPR0 Chiropractors can sometimes use low impact adjustments to release the interosseous membrane but for the most part, remedial massage treatment isn't especially nice, particularly if the shin splints are severe. If the shin splints are extremely painful and don't respond to manual therapy then a hairline fracture should be considered, but it's not a given without scans or a medial assessment, and introduces another scenario.
i hear a lot of comment about negative results from doing this video. I also hear that shin splints is not always diagnosed properly. I have some recommendations. I am a state licensed MT for over four years and have consulted a lot with other teachers of the profession on this topic.
There is nothing that replaces a professionals diagnosis. So first off, before you attempt any massage you should learn what is good for you first by seeing your doctor. It is the least time consuming route.
@UkPR0 Maybe she does know? She didn't say and I've no reason to doubt her training. I also don't disagree with the techniques she's suggesting in this clip or how she's doing them as she's clearly a competent therapist. There is some debate regarding working in one direction over another, so I'll give her the benefit of the doubt on choosing to work o-i and contravenously given that its a local treatment. And making a video without medical jargon also has its merits.
@UkPR0 People don't often talk about medial tibial syndrome, they refer to to it as shin splints and everyone understands shin splints. I don't see a problem with her calling it the shin bone.
@JazyGirl26 it might not be a shin splint I mean I am no doctor but if it is near the ankle it might have something to do with your ankle? But on that note pressure on shin splints at least walking and etc does hurt?
Thank you very much! This is exactly where my shin hurts! Amazing! I tried it but I could not do it at first because my shin burn.... but I iced it and then messaged it and great relief!
Shin splints hurt in one or two of the sides of the tibia... mine is lateral to the tibia. People who say wrong side experience medial (between their legs) so you can't say wrong directions.
so basically, this massage is both in the wrong place (outside of shin instead of inside of shin - which is where mine hurts!) and also in the wrong direction. Brilliant.
I dont know anything about massages etc, but i have shin splints and want rid of them. What i dont understand is, if its the bone that hurts (in my case anyway) how does massaging the muscle help?
@cx03yrl if you have old running shoes or have bumped up your mileage in a big way then that could be one cause. another cause could be if you're wearing Neutral shoes when you should be wearing Stability shoes.
I'm a massage therapy teacher in IL. Usually strokes toward the heart are more beneficial. If you do go away from the heart (like in SOME sport massage techniques) you need to be at a 45 degree angle to not adversely effect the venous system. The hair comment is ridiculous, use more oil/cream. Also there are both posterior and anterior shin splints. :) Love Solex morning class - 7/10
@KCaseroc ........... Hey Kcaseroc. When attending school, I also was taught to stroke towards the heart. Until is was imbeded in my head. There is no significant difference for strokes going towards the heart. You won't be doing any damage. Along side a Respiritory therapist we measured the hearts reaction of strokes going toward and away from the heart ..there were no differences to response to either one.
@jawpiece9235 Fun! I'll share with my class - if you could explain the research trial a bit more... Full body? Pressure used? Measured directly after or an hour or two -- etc... Thanks for the future knowledge!!!
shin splints are usually the result of tibialis posterior pulling at its attached site on the medial surface of the tibia(shin bone), massage if to be performed-usually last form of treament, should be performed over the medial aspect rather than the lateral(outside) like is shown
some massage strokes don't necessarily have to go to the heart. Say you have a client that has a lot of leg hair. By working upwards, you are going AGAINST the hair follicle direction which could be quite painful for the client. so instead we'd move along the hair line (going down).
secondly, moving away from the top is also a great way to give the client a queue to loosen and decompress their joints (in this case, the acetabular femoral joint)
All massage should be towards the heart which follows the venous flow. Away from the heart will stress the valves within the veins that prevent back flow of deoxygenated blood.
This is a very informative video. The only problem is that working down the leg instead of up the leg (which is the way the blood flows back to the heart) can cause problems with the veins.
FLHPEI01 3 weeks ago
@UkPR0 Agreed to a point. A skilled bodyworker will have you back on form much sooner than simply resting. Massage is far from a perfect solution, especially for the likes of shin splints, but it can be effective especially coupled with rehab. I've a couple of dancers at the moment who are responding well to treatment. They can't afford to lay off training so remedial intervention isn't an option. The massage profession suffers from a very wide gamut. Find a good one, keep them and tell others.
stasber 5 months ago
@UkPR0 Chiropractors can sometimes use low impact adjustments to release the interosseous membrane but for the most part, remedial massage treatment isn't especially nice, particularly if the shin splints are severe. If the shin splints are extremely painful and don't respond to manual therapy then a hairline fracture should be considered, but it's not a given without scans or a medial assessment, and introduces another scenario.
stasber 5 months ago
i hear a lot of comment about negative results from doing this video. I also hear that shin splints is not always diagnosed properly. I have some recommendations. I am a state licensed MT for over four years and have consulted a lot with other teachers of the profession on this topic.
There is nothing that replaces a professionals diagnosis. So first off, before you attempt any massage you should learn what is good for you first by seeing your doctor. It is the least time consuming route.
getlost317 5 months ago
@UkPR0 Maybe she does know? She didn't say and I've no reason to doubt her training. I also don't disagree with the techniques she's suggesting in this clip or how she's doing them as she's clearly a competent therapist. There is some debate regarding working in one direction over another, so I'll give her the benefit of the doubt on choosing to work o-i and contravenously given that its a local treatment. And making a video without medical jargon also has its merits.
stasber 5 months ago
@UkPR0 People don't often talk about medial tibial syndrome, they refer to to it as shin splints and everyone understands shin splints. I don't see a problem with her calling it the shin bone.
stasber 5 months ago
im not sure is it im suffering from shin splint , but if it is , the way you push down 2.30 hurts really much
doommic 9 months ago
Thanks so much i had horrible shin splints from hurdling and it helped!!!!!!
itunes272 10 months ago
wrong direction.
MrOsvaldoc 1 year ago
what if it's lower down on your shin bone almost near the ankle?
annnddd what if it hurts to put pressure on it :( i've been icing regularly too
JazyGirl26 1 year ago
@JazyGirl26 yea, im having the same problem here, hav u figured it out yet?
albrt115 8 months ago
@JazyGirl26 it might not be a shin splint I mean I am no doctor but if it is near the ankle it might have something to do with your ankle? But on that note pressure on shin splints at least walking and etc does hurt?
luvfritz2009 7 months ago
who the hell is this idiot has not got a clue about how to treat shin splints wrong direction wrong area this should be taken off youtube
lsiwankiw 1 year ago
@lsiwankiw Angry people who attack and name-call instead of rationally explaining their point should be taken off youtube.
CombatGal 3 months ago
Thank you very much! This is exactly where my shin hurts! Amazing! I tried it but I could not do it at first because my shin burn.... but I iced it and then messaged it and great relief!
Shin splints hurt in one or two of the sides of the tibia... mine is lateral to the tibia. People who say wrong side experience medial (between their legs) so you can't say wrong directions.
rfz985 1 year ago
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rfz985 1 year ago
WRONG DIRECTION!!
Even people with hair on their legs can get massage without pain.
okcorral6 1 year ago
Get shin splints, Not on leg, BUT TWO BUNDLE OF JOY ;D
Kizuishaskittle 1 year ago
I am a man and I have shin splints, but I can't do massage because I have hairs on my shin :D
bboynormal 1 year ago
I've got a shin splint in my right leg and I can tell you first hand that it hurts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
fasteddie847 1 year ago
wow - really!! Wrong place and wrong direction....
edbear2004 1 year ago
why isn't the camera focused on the area she describes?
TheRaquelMS 1 year ago 11
so basically, this massage is both in the wrong place (outside of shin instead of inside of shin - which is where mine hurts!) and also in the wrong direction. Brilliant.
aluntay 1 year ago
I dont know anything about massages etc, but i have shin splints and want rid of them. What i dont understand is, if its the bone that hurts (in my case anyway) how does massaging the muscle help?
cx03yrl 1 year ago
@cx03yrl if you have old running shoes or have bumped up your mileage in a big way then that could be one cause. another cause could be if you're wearing Neutral shoes when you should be wearing Stability shoes.
simonj73 1 year ago
I'm a massage therapy teacher in IL. Usually strokes toward the heart are more beneficial. If you do go away from the heart (like in SOME sport massage techniques) you need to be at a 45 degree angle to not adversely effect the venous system. The hair comment is ridiculous, use more oil/cream. Also there are both posterior and anterior shin splints. :) Love Solex morning class - 7/10
KCaseroc 1 year ago
@KCaseroc ........... Hey Kcaseroc. When attending school, I also was taught to stroke towards the heart. Until is was imbeded in my head. There is no significant difference for strokes going towards the heart. You won't be doing any damage. Along side a Respiritory therapist we measured the hearts reaction of strokes going toward and away from the heart ..there were no differences to response to either one.
jawpiece9235 1 year ago
@jawpiece9235 Fun! I'll share with my class - if you could explain the research trial a bit more... Full body? Pressure used? Measured directly after or an hour or two -- etc... Thanks for the future knowledge!!!
KCaseroc 1 year ago
shin splints are usually the result of tibialis posterior pulling at its attached site on the medial surface of the tibia(shin bone), massage if to be performed-usually last form of treament, should be performed over the medial aspect rather than the lateral(outside) like is shown
tandyc 1 year ago
some massage strokes don't necessarily have to go to the heart. Say you have a client that has a lot of leg hair. By working upwards, you are going AGAINST the hair follicle direction which could be quite painful for the client. so instead we'd move along the hair line (going down).
secondly, moving away from the top is also a great way to give the client a queue to loosen and decompress their joints (in this case, the acetabular femoral joint)
cheucklate 2 years ago
All massage should be towards the heart which follows the venous flow. Away from the heart will stress the valves within the veins that prevent back flow of deoxygenated blood.
tonglongkid 2 years ago
@tonglongkid .....This is NOT true and NOT proven
jawpiece9235 1 year ago
wouldnt it be better for the direction of the stroke to go toward the heart?
crybabiessuck 2 years ago
When I did XC I got really bad shin splints. Stretching is vital!!!
Ryansmith312 2 years ago