I just don't believe averything that one reads or hears. The bible wasn't written by "God"; it was written by a human, a person. Just by this fact I question the bible and the Church. I lie told a million of times becomes the truth in our eyes. It's plain simple for me religion just doesn't work; it's just a way to teach us moral and etics when we are childs and to tells us that is we do bad deeds we are going to rot for and eternity. Religion is just Hope of a better life, better than this dump
"The Bible wasn't written by God; it was written by a human."
Men write books all the time, are you a man? Do you trust their books? Oh wait, they must have been written by men. See your inconsistency?
Either way, you're still incorrect... the book is written by men inspired by God(God breathed). The huge issue you're going to have to overcome is... men don't tell the future, God does--and men recorded what God said would occur, and it has, and will continue. Repent.
@droptozro WOW, you are fucking stupid! You talk about these events like you were there, and witnessed it personally. Only problem is, you fail to provide any empirical evidence to back your thoughts up! You are just another uneducated, naïve, bible thumping sloth, trying so hard to imitate intelligence. I truely feel sorry for you. FUCK YOUR GOD
"You talk about these events like you were there, and witnessed it personally"
It's history.... I'm presuming you believe a lot of secular history, were you there? Nope. You must be believing what man wrote without being there also.
"...any empirical evidence"
Yes, and Zeitgeist... lol, has that evidence? This film is a failure from it's foundation. Was English a language when Jesus was around, let alone the ancient Egyptians? No, so "son" = "sun" is laughable.
@droptozro LMFAO, I have never made any claims about Zeitgeist being empirical, nor have I expressed a personal opinion, and spit it out as factual information without backing it (AS YOU HAVE) Having said that, a lot of Zeitgeist’s source citation is empirical, some is not. Sorry to tell you pal, but “language” has nothing to do with the validity of the movie. You’re not backing your ideas; you’re only stating your personal opinion. You should really keep your lips focused on Jesus’ dick.
@droptozro Furthermore, I have a Master’s Degree in Law from Queens University, and have studied Early Judeo- Christianity extensively over the past 6 years. I have personally studied scholarly, peer reviewed journals that clearly make reference to the “Jesus” story long before the biblical existence of Jesus. Christianity is merely an idea a concept. The Jesus concept is previously applied ideas; borrowed and manipulated. You take it literally because you can’t admit to living a lie!
@droptozro As far history, Well, If it can be verified by empirical evidence I may believe it. FIND ME ONE FUCKING SCHOLLARLY JOURNAL THAT ACCEPTS “your Jesus story” AS AN EMPERICAL FACT!! YOU CAN’T CUZ IT DOES NOT EXIST! IT’S A FUCKING CONCEPT! AS I SAID, Fuck you and your false idols. You and your thought are unproven, ONLY OPINION NO FACTS; You are an abomination
just an angry angry person toting his degree... lol. good thing Scripture says "At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank you, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hid these things from the wise and prudent, and have revealed them to babes"
High and mighty will fall... proud is an abomination(Prov 16:5), you said everything opposite to Scripture and filled with so much hate. I pity you... No, Zeitgeist is not empirically backed up with good sources..
@thecivilwar1865 ...it's laughable all the way down to it's very foundations. The very fact that you're even here and giving the film ANY credit of source reliability shows that degree didn't do much for you.
The Scriptures are correct, and have been--still testing the times, still around no matter how much people wish to deny. Why? Because they're true. The prophecies have come true, and they will continually---and Christ will return one day and reign on this earth. Repent now.
@droptozro No Pal, you still arn't getting it, SHOW ME EMPERICAL EVIDENCE OF "YOUR GOD's EXISTENCE" ??? Your Opinion is not a fact; it is your belief, a wish, a pipe dream.You keep bringing up Zeitgeist; which is nothing more than "over the top drama" and some exaggerated facts; however, some of its sources that reference a "Pre-Christian" Jesus story are accurate. No matter which way you cut it, You can't prove your ideas, I CAN! and Will, THIS IS MY EARTH :)))
And December wasn't even an invented month, yet this film claims Jesus was born on Dec 25th? Really now? anything of that in the Scriptures that record all this? Uh nope, actually to the contrary--better chance He was born in the fall. Shepherds don't keep watch in the winter fields, little too cold. : /
And why so angry? So much anger just for holding a view? The Scripture actually says all knowledge is in Him, so no--it's real intelligence, all the rest is false.
Of coarse there were never Dinosaurs...Yer right. I mean come on please....This movie/Doco makes way more sense than the Bible ever will.. But of coarse as a species we are extremely stupid. So its no wonder people don't want to believe any of this. The really funny thing are the videos here on You tube trying to Debunk this movie. Not one of them makes any sense at all. Very funny
@TheStrawbeery "fake fake fake who crucifeid horus then?
who seen the resurrection of horus? where are the manuscripts?
where was horus buried?"
-See, this is the problem, people like you expect everyone else to answer your questions instead of making an effort and researching for yourself. Christians often question, not to learn, but to defend their faith as they have no intention of even listening but to cause trouble.
@TheStrawbeery We try to be reasonable and provide strong factual arguments against your claims as you're brainwashed to spread the word, thus creating problems, we are then forced to resort to "swearing", insults and namecalling because you people refuse to leave people alone as you people also try to defame people like Peter Joseph because your faith in this almightly god holds no weight in reality.
-Yeah, you keep telling yourself this so you can keep believing because reality scares you.
"your'e not forced to namecall that's your'e choice to namecall"
-You mean the same way it's your choice to relentlessly try converting everyone to your deadly religion, refusal to listen or question and then throw a tantrum when anyone attempts to challenge your faith leaving people no choice but to become frustrated??
@TheStrawbeery "and please be honest about the fact you don't want to belive there's a god"
-1. It's not a matter of choice, it's a matter of rational skepticism and 2, The only ones who can't be honest about their absence of belief are those who must remain in the closet because of strict and heavily religious families.
@TheStrawbeery Well, people who claim to be christians are commiting these crimes and if you're correct, they're making all of you look bad so instead of arguing with us, why not do something about it, huh? It's only been going on for millenia.
@TheStrawbeery "get your'e facts straight before you go off sprewing"
Fact: Kids are constantly being force fed their parents' religions because the church has brainwashed them. Some infants even die because of parents' reliance on prayer.
Fact: Most religious people are opposed to gay/lesbian marriage because the bible claims they're all evil and an abomination.
Fact: Abortion doctors are sometimes murdered but some christians believe in war.
@TheStrawbeery RELIGION ITSELF IS CAUSING THESE IMMORAL BEHAVIOURS NOW AREN'T THEY? Yes, I am aware that there are 38, 000 different denominations of christianity, but that's because all of you turn to it like fucking vultures and then run away with either your own interpretations or picking and choosing from it to suit your fuckin fancy and even using it to justify bigotries and murder while claiming moral superiority under the same breath!
@TheStrawbeery Christianity is lifelong altruistic servitude/devotion to the god of its bible which demands absolute obedience of its dogmas and while those who subscribe to it are guilty of the "sins" while they condemn everyone else for not believing and repenting THEIR sins.
Once again though, you're not listening which is only typical of you asshole hypocrites, go fuck your christ.
@TheStrawbeery is this dude surz?lol this is a troll he is saying out that we are smart and cristians stupid xD lol and in the bible you find that god killed billions while statan killed 0 i think max 5 but if so it was in gods name/order =) all cristians need to follow the one thats not hatefull satan or gtfo whith there damn hatefull book of war!
@TheStrawbeery and you to =) remember the bible? god is the one who decides my fate not you. you stand aganst god that means your going to hell to :D how fun right?.but i got a brain and know all that is a story and not true lol. dude saying your going to hell yust makes you look stupid,be nice and gtfo whith your hatefull religion :D
@TheStrawbeery lol so its proven that jesus was a son of god who lived 2000years ago and did evrything the bible says? its proven that god made a man kill his son? its a fact that god made the world like 4000years ago? its a fact that the bible is true cus the bible says so?. and yes i seen my brain you can go to the hospital and get a pic of it =) and god is a story only those who dont know the world and fear death thinks its true.there is no soul its the brain.
@TheStrawbeery you can prove that there is no soul its the ebulotion of the brain combined whith memorys thats makes you you...and no there is no prove of jesus or that he was the son of god.and no the bible is not try just cus it says so...in i write a book saying that the world was made 5 days ago and you yust think you lived longer and its try cus my book says so will you beleve it? NO cus its fucking stupid lol xD
@TheStrawbeery and are the world flat? no... you know you can also pray to anything.its as praying to god pray to a soda can it will anser your pray whith a yes no and maby.example--> ohh holy soda can give me a pie. there may be a pie thrown in your window..you may get a pie 1week later.or never.dont you see how stupid that is? change the word pie to god now and see =) its the same ans yes its stupid.you think you can cure some one bu begging got they ether will or not if not it
I have found similar information to Zeitgeist in A&E's Mysteries of the Bible "Jesus:Holy Child" and National Geographics "Egyptian Secrets of the Afterlife".
BUT, the story of Horus as presented by Zeitgeist is complete BULLSHIT and not even close to what Horus' mythology is.
First of all Horus' birth was NOT a virgin birth, it was a "Divine birth", look it up, basically Isis constructed a PENIS from her dead husband's body parts along with her magic to conceive Horus......that's not a virgin birth at all!!!
All the other stuff about Horus is fucking ridiculous and I've never heard it in ANY mythology...
@nuketherothschild666 If I was the illuminati and I needed a belief system to corral much of the world into blind worship, I would use christianity. It's perfect! Perfect in the sense that it already exists, it is full of blind believers, it rakes in TRILLIONS of dollars, etc.
a rat race between illuminati zionism & Gods army..put an end to the U.S and Israel power trip , they only care bout themselves and will use other countries ( your country ) to accomplish their evil plan for the world , if u think hitlers holocaust was something thats childsplay compare to what the U.S and Israel have Plan for us . how many wars have the U.S started with no valid cause in the past 100 years. the american government is not your friend time to put an end to them .
Its so cool how God paints his amazing love story into the stars, but what does this have to do with what Jesus did on the cross? This video doesn't really explain spiritual similarities I mean Jesus died for a reason
How strange, absolutely no where in the Bible does it say that Jesus was born on Dec 25th, so the comparison is now completely meaningless. Horus is said to rise in the morning every single day of the year, not just on 12/25. Horus was not born a virgin. Orion's belt was not called "The 3 Kings" in antiquity, only recently. They also align with Sirius and the sun that way for many months, not just on Dec 25th. Son and Sun do not sound the same in Latin, Greek and countless other languages.
The words Sun, and Son, are only homonyms in english! latin they are Sol, and Filius ..this off base...way off..and in Greek, they are not the same words..nothing alike!
@adamant623 that is a strawman fallacy- this sun/son pun, as well as all the rebuttals towards this movie have been thoroughly refuted. This movie is true. Even if it weren't, there is no doubt that religions borrow from one another.
The basic Animism gave birth to Shamanism then Polytheism and Pantheism, and then finally Theism. Its all bunk my friend, be happy that the millions of lives lost in natural disasters weren't by the hands of a conscious being, but by an indifferent universe. Peace.
@adamant623 Just a thought I had about this "Son/Son" thing... I'm Danish, and the Danish word for sun is also "sol", but the day called sunday in english is not called "Sol"-dag in danish, it's called "Søn-dag" wich translates to SONday in english... isn't it weird?! :) I don't know why it's called sonday and not sunday in our language though, but I think it's something about religion as well...
Completely distored. First SUN and SON only sound alike in the english lang. Horus was not the Sun God (RA was). Iris (horus mother) was a widow to Osiris and resurrected him from the dead and later birthed Horus (she was not a virgin). Horus born on the 25th of Dec is irrelevant as the bible never states that Christ was borth on Dec 25th that date was only adopted hundrds of yrs ago. Other "gods" mentioned is a complete deception. Research and youll realize this videos claims are ridiculous.
@15PhenomenoN Ah, the movie hasn't stated - so far - that the "son" of 'god' was regarded to be the same thing as the sun. What the movie HAS stated, is that many sun-gods of heathen religions preceeded the "Jesus Christ" mythology - some by well over a thousand years - and had many aspects that were picked up by the Greco-Romanized Jews and incorporated into THEIR version of the "sun" gods....
@sanriver12 The confusion is that there was more than one gdo "Horus". But Zeitgeist seems to be trying to merge them. Horus (son of Isis + Osiris) = god of the heavens/sky god. Horus who merged w/ Ra and became Re-Horakhty. Seperate Deities. Nonetheless all these claims are still inaccurate. Horus(of Osiris)' mother was IRIS not IRIS-MERI and she was not a virigin. His birth was never preceeded by a star. Wise men -not 3 kings (bible never mentions the number 3) sought Jesus....
@15PhenomenoN apparently you have a problem with gods merging but believe in the holy trinity. "scumbag christian"... that's a meme by the way, not calling you a scumbag
@sanriver12 No where does is state that Horus was baptized and no where does it state that Horus was crucified, in fact never mentions that he died/has ever died. Everything else was copied from the life and death of christ and labeled as if it was Horus' life i.e, disciples, miracles performed, nick-names, True research fails to recongnize any similiarity between the two. Yet people will fall for these claims. Because people will believe ANYTHING they want to believe, so there you go...
@sanriver12 Never claimed to be christian. Just deciphering stories that could very well all be fairy tales, bible included. Difference; i'm willing to research, not go straight to wikipedia and copy phrases. I know the stories of the bible, i know stories of ancient Egypt & Greek mythology, and distinguish the 2. "The bible is a fairytale and i will do everything to debunk it or discredit it"..why bother?? lol Leave the facts where the facts are and leave the stories alone
I am very interested in someone who can help me answer this.. someone serious .. please
Why doesnt this actually proove the opposite ? that all of those faiths confirm that jesus exist in different forms through out the century .. and why doesnt it give credit to this man-god- ?
can someone make a good argument? btw i am neutral or against religion myself but this is an interesting question
@TheRogueMonk watch?v=vRCBjqC-IVc&feature=related at 1:10 lol, common after all the knowledge we have today this is completely absurd believe than we are the center of the universe, stop dreaming
God could not create the universe because before the Big Bang, time did not exist, which means there was no time for a god to create a universe and cause a big bang
WATCH THE ARRIVAL with CHARLIE SHEEN as he convulses in a medical bed after having downed seven gram rocks! Witness the glory of his backward bending legs as he morphs into an alien only to travel to California to start a hit show wherein two men and a kid booz it up and start a prostitution ring!
@cp3d18 man i get in so many arguments with my whole family cause im the only atheist and they've even kicked me out of my house before and i cant go to any family christmas parties or anything cause they banned me, my family is so fucking hooked on religion its disgusting
@ryanandbranslurppiss I have the same problem. My girlfriends dad is an over the top religious person. He wouldn’t talk to us because I wasn’t interested in going to church. Then last year, he pulled her off to the side and told her she was going to hell if she didn’t change. I refuse to go to any xmas or easter family gatherings.
@ryanandbranslurppiss "kicked me out of my house before and i cant go to any family christmas parties " Ah, the brotherhood and love of Christianity, right? LOL Don't worry and don't fight. These sick pagan rituals are everywhere waiting for fights. Purify your own body, see the truth yourself, and nothing else matters. After al we are each truly alone, meaning "all one." I know it is tough, sometimes it is tough for me during this time of year, but brother the truth sets us free!
there will be many false messiahs that will come before you stating they are me. Don't be decieved. As they are not me. Said jesus. Zeitgeist debunked.
This video kinda sucks. I am reading "The Gods of Eden" by William Bramley. He gives a better explanation of Jesus who Bramley claims actually existed and how Jesus WAS born of a virgin through artificial insemination performed by the Custodians/'gods". This video, however, sounds very juvenile. It probably contains some truth but very unconvincing.This video is a disservice to the truth movement. Shame.
wow I would only say this why was all of this denying god and yet there was barely information about the devil and may be illuminati wff is this ? this is shit is designed to forsake GOD WHAT ABOUT ISLAM,HINDUISM,BUDDAHISM,SANTANISM why didn't u bring information about that I can only say u have barely opened my eyes
The ancient Hebrews had no astrological tradition at all. The Torah condemns astrology, so therefore the christian tradition, which emerged from the Jewish tradition would have NOTHING to do with astrology. The theme of "twelve" disciples was a fulfillment of the prefigured twelve tribes of Israel, stemming from the 12 sons of Jacob, not astrology. The southern cross constellation was not discovered until the 16th century.
Fabricated nonsense. Anyone with ANY basic understanding of the history of ancient pagan religions will know that there is NO correlation between Jesus of Nazareth and these mythic figures. These parallels are forced and completely fabricated. There is NO historical evidence that Horus, portrayed with the head of an eagle, ever existed. Crucifixion was not practiced in ancient Egypt, nor was Horus baptized nor resurrected, nor born of a virgin, but of Isis and Osiris.
This video, which is part of the Zeitgeist documentary, is mostly Wrong on the info it shows AND IS MADE IN A PERSUASIVE MANNER just to make you believe every little word.. C'mon, 5 or 6 gods on a list and comparing them like a Car's top speed, milage... This is pure BrainWashing..
is one of his ways of deceiving people. And Satan knew that Jehovah God had intended a saviour for us since the beginning just look in the book of Genisis after Adam and Eve had disobeyed. Jehovah foretold of a symbolic "seed" that would crush Satan. And this was fortold before the egyptians were around soooooooo Satan had the egyptians under his influence and could show them all of this manipulate them blah blah blah nice try athiests....but u cant crush the creator of the universe so easily
The truth is these are not mentioned in the bible. The "Dec 25" date and "3" kings number come from these pagan demon worshipping religions all described here in this movie. And it is yes, the Catholic religion who introduced these pagan origins into Christianity and carrying them into today. No one bothers to look into these things they just say hey its tradition dont mess with tradition blah blah blah BUT if u expect the devil to flee from you you cannot partake in his works, and astrology
Modern day christendom does infact teach these things about Jesus, problem is, they arent teaching whats actually in the bible. Modern day Christendom is a counterfiet of what true christianity is. No where in the bible does it say Jesus Christ was born on Dec 25 or the number of "kings" (astrologers) who we looking for him.
Modern day christendom does infact teach these things about Jesus, problem is, they arent teaching whats actually in the bible. Modern day Christendom is a counterfiet of what true christianity is. No where in the bible does it say Jesus Christ was born on Dec 25 or the number of "kings" (astrologers) who went looking for him.
@powderpuff86 Actually, what it says in the Bible is that Jehovah liked bloodshed and encouraged the Hebrews to eliminate cities full of innocent children and animals even if everybody else was "wicked". Read Joshua 6:21 and Joshua 6:24 and Joshua 10:40. Oh, and they saved a prostitute's!!! life because she betrayed her people and helped the Hebrews. Unfortunately, people trust preachers without realizing what the faith is all about. Believe me, I am finally recovering from the deceit.
@Rita1972 Oh I am sorry to hear that. It's real sad what religion has done to the world and people today it has casued so much divisions and hatred. I had to break up with my boyfriend of three years because he is indian and his family does not believe in going outside of their culture because this is what they have been brainwashed to beleive. Very Sad. I hope it all ends soon one day because the human race can't go on like this...:-(
@Rita1972 Oh I am sorry to hear that. It's real sad what religion has done to the world and people today it has casued so much divisions and hatred. I had to break up with my boyfriend of three years because he is indian and his family does not believe in going outside of their culture because this is what they have been brainwashed to beleive. Very Sad. I hope it all ends soon one day because the human race can't go on like this...:-(
Modern day christendom does infact teach these things about Jesus, problem is, they arent teaching whats actually in the bible. Modern day Christendom is a counterfiet of what true christianity is. No where in the bible does it say Jesus Christ was born on Dec 25 or the number of "kings" (astrologers) who went looking for him.
Always been a war between sun god and true God, i.e., Moses and Ramus (son of Ra), Canaanites’ Baal and the ten tribes, Babylon and Marduk against Judah, Alexandra’s Apollo and the Maccabees. Constantine’s Catholic coup d’état against Christians. God commanded not to worship t sun god trinity: Deuteronomy 4:19 Deuteronomy 17:3. The children of God worship sun god when apostate Jeremiah 15:9 2 Kings 23:5 then they were punished for doing so.
Always been a war between sun god and true God, i.e., Moses and Ramus (son of Ra), Canaanites’ Baal and the ten tribes, Babylon and Marduk against Judah, Alexandra’s Apollo and the Maccabees. Constantine’s Catholic coup d’état against Christians. God commanded not to worship t sun god trinity: Deuteronomy 4:19 Deuteronomy 17:3. The children of God worship sun god when apostate Jeremiah 15:9 2 Kings 23:5 then they were punished for doing so.
this is so sad! to read these comments between people and to she how the devils plan to dessive people is working is almost unbarable. yes i watched this movie and heard what had to be said but its not all acurate. anyone can piece together facts to make anything look not as it is! i know The Way is right. i Kno god is real! I felt his presence, ive seen miracles, ive be over whelmed with the hly ghost! so it has to be real.
~praise you father, they do not know of what they do. forgive them!
All of those religions copied off of the old testament. Jesus's death was predicted in the old testament. It was talked about greatly in the book of Daniel and the other prophets. So, yea. This argument is very weak. I could break it down with simple Bible scripture. Don't be deceived people!
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Really, I think people create these types of movies because they are against Christianity. Am I correct in this? (feel free to email a hardcore Christian at biblequestions @ j e s u s a n s w e r s . c o m for questions/comments.)
HOW THIS ZEITGEIST DOESNT BELIEVE WITH BAD AND GOOD TO BE JUDGED HERE AT THE LAST DAY? THE SPIRT SHOULD BE STRONG WHEN CHOSEN BY GOD...FOR ZEITGEIST NO WAR NO KILLINGS...HOW CAN A GOOD SPIRIT BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE EVIL ONE? THERE SHOULD BE A SEPARATION IN BETWEEN WEAK AND STRONG, THATS WHY WE ARE HERE IN THIS WORLD FOR A MERE TEST..AND THIS IS NOT A HEAVEN...GOD IS NOT UNFAIR OR MAN-MADE GOD FOR WHAT THIS MOVEMENT IS TRYING TO EMPHASIZE. WE SHOULD LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKE...BEWARE!!
LOL... i dont remeber where i heard or read this but " Going to war over religion is like fighting to see who has the better imaginary friend" I think it fits appropriately here.
the religion part of this movie is great but idk about the rest of it.... interesting though regardless..... I'm gunna have to research some of this stuff its really awesome, i think I'll write my college history paper on these similiarities between Christianity and other religions..But some of the stuff in this movie is BS like, many of these civilizations spoke DIFFERENT languages so the whole "God's Sun" stuff is BS because these people's word "sun" and "son" would be completely different
I will post this message on all 3 parts of this documentary.
User name: "Digital Age" posed the question of "Who was the Egyptian Mises?"
User name: "Pirate AM" answered, "While I think "Zeitgeist" is a good attempt, it misses a ton of real facts and tries to make facts where none exist."
I'm trying to figure out where December 25th came from. I mean obviously it's currently a day of celebration of Jesus' birth, Christmas, for many in modern times. But I don't think it's supposed to be because it is the actual historical date of Jesus' birth. There is no mention of a specific date in the Bible. I think this was just the date chosen for celebration. Why this date? I'm not sure; I've heard different reasons. Just a thought...
@DeDeDurINC how could they be twisted tales of jesus when they were around thousands of years before him. The bottom line is god doesnt exist and u really need to question your intelligence if you beleive in a magic man in the sky that made everything.
think what you like, but until we resolve the fact we live to die, and that humans are a mere lucky chance of being so, we must work with eachother to further our race, or else once that suns gone regardless of how many years, its death is a known thing, which if we don't focus more on space and our knowledge of space, instead of pointless wars, we are all doomed regardless of how much money you have everyone is bound to end up like our ancestors DEAD, its not to fret, rejoice and make peace.
religion is just a bunch of shit, first of everything in the universe is made up of hydrogen, helium, oxygen, and carbon ( with dark matter as the "void" or otherwords space ), so if this "god" created all this he himself would just be a bunch of atoms and protons, which in all would eventually die regardless of who or what he is, given the nature that all atoms, protons neutrons are born and are destroyed, thus god is nothing more than what everything else is, something that is born to die.
God is eternal. That is what the Bible says. It's something your small brain couldn't even begin to comprehend. Science is NOTHING. God is all knowing and gave science what it has today. Everything science knows is not even .00000000000000000000000000000000000001% of what God knows. And that maybe isn't even close.
Why do you mock the prophets? They have given truth. Anything they've said has been straight from the Lord's mouth. Are you accusing the Lord of being a liar? Where was you at when the Lord laid the foundations of the world? Who are you to say the Lord is a liar when you've never even studied the Bible yourself?
@TheIsraelite7777eeeehhhh! wrong! I was raised catholic. I also graduated from a catholic university magna cum laude. I studied the bible and to quote my favorite prophet, George Carlin, "it's just something that somebody made up." You're thinking is delusional but I have hope for you. You just need to educated yourself. Read some Dan Denett or A C Grayling. Or read the God Delusion and see if your "faith" holds up. I doubt it will if you're a rational person.
That's even worse. Catholics don't know jack crap about the Bible. Ha. You just made yourself look pretty bad. You were apart of a religion that has killed hundreds of thousands of true Christians. Congratulations.
@TheIsraelite7777 eeehhh! Wrong again Holmes. I'm a devout atheist but you were'nt able to pick up on that because you don't know who the people I mentioned are. At least I know religious texts are crap, unlike you, you deluded slave. Christianity is a scam but you're not smart enough to get it. You religious assholes are the biggest reason for all the problems in the world.
Eeehhh! Wrong. MAINSTREAM Christianity is a scam. The Christianity I follow is the same Christians the true followers of God followed. Me and my people follow the Bible. If it's not in the Bible, we don't follow it. Holidays, unclean foods, we don't follow it. We keep the laws, statutes, commandments, and holy days. We have sanctified ourselves from the rest of the world. BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD!
@TheIsraelite7777 let me add a correction, I said christianity is a scam. what i really meant to say is all religions are a scam. The bible is a hoax written by bronze age, illiterate desert dwellers. You said that catholics don't know crap about the bible and that's probably true for many or them. It wasn't till I began to study the bible and think for myself that I became an atheist. You accept all that crap because that is how you were brainwashed as a child, as i was. educate yourself.
I've read nearly all the old testament and the new testament. I might not agree with some of the things that happened in their, but that's how it was. And I accept it. Cause that's part of what comes with having Faith.
God had a bunch of people killed. But wouldn't NONE of them righteous. They were not innocent. They sinned so greatly. They worshiped other gods and served them. They hearkened not unto the Word of the Lord. They went backwards instead of forwards. They were EVIL!
And if you do wickedly and do evil, you will die in your sins. Any day you could die if you don't follow the Word of the Lord. The Lord guarantees all who keep his commandments, laws, statutes, and holy days a long life.. and then eternal life after they are raised up again.
I don't want to taste death because I know what it's like. I was like that at one time.. before I was born.. I didn't know anything.. I didn't feel anything.. That's the same way it's going to be when you die. You will cease to live. You won't have any thoughts.. not until you are resurrected.. whether it be for eternal life or eternal damnation. The Bible says when we die, we have no thoughts. John 3:13 says nobody has ever went to heaven except for Jesus..
Who is Yogi? Well when you are dead, it's over. Unless you did right, and kept the laws, statutes, commandments, and holy days and had faith in Jesus.
@TheIsraelite7777 Yogi Berra, New York Yankees. The point I'm making here is... my ridiculous quote is just as ridiculous as yours. Anyway, I think were done here bible thumper. I really don't want to hear any more of your stupid bible thumping nonsense.
The feeling of awed wonder that science can give us is one of the highest experiences of which the human psyche is capable. It is a deep aesthetic passion to rank with the finest that music and poetry can deliver. It is truly one of the things that make life worth living and it does so, if anything, more effectively if it convinces us that the time we have for living is quite finite
Forgot to mention that when they compared the different prophets characteristics they were pretty much alike. And that's something that makes wonder about what this is all about...
This film is so full of fail it's embarrassing. Yes, religion is bs, but so is this piece of shit.
PompaTG 1 week ago
Oh shit.
aeroxwolfx 2 weeks ago
I just don't believe averything that one reads or hears. The bible wasn't written by "God"; it was written by a human, a person. Just by this fact I question the bible and the Church. I lie told a million of times becomes the truth in our eyes. It's plain simple for me religion just doesn't work; it's just a way to teach us moral and etics when we are childs and to tells us that is we do bad deeds we are going to rot for and eternity. Religion is just Hope of a better life, better than this dump
javilx03 3 weeks ago
@javilx03
"The Bible wasn't written by God; it was written by a human."
Men write books all the time, are you a man? Do you trust their books? Oh wait, they must have been written by men. See your inconsistency?
Either way, you're still incorrect... the book is written by men inspired by God(God breathed). The huge issue you're going to have to overcome is... men don't tell the future, God does--and men recorded what God said would occur, and it has, and will continue. Repent.
droptozro 1 week ago
@droptozro WOW, you are fucking stupid! You talk about these events like you were there, and witnessed it personally. Only problem is, you fail to provide any empirical evidence to back your thoughts up! You are just another uneducated, naïve, bible thumping sloth, trying so hard to imitate intelligence. I truely feel sorry for you. FUCK YOUR GOD
thecivilwar1865 5 days ago
@thecivilwar1865
"You talk about these events like you were there, and witnessed it personally"
It's history.... I'm presuming you believe a lot of secular history, were you there? Nope. You must be believing what man wrote without being there also.
"...any empirical evidence"
Yes, and Zeitgeist... lol, has that evidence? This film is a failure from it's foundation. Was English a language when Jesus was around, let alone the ancient Egyptians? No, so "son" = "sun" is laughable.
droptozro 5 days ago
@droptozro LMFAO, I have never made any claims about Zeitgeist being empirical, nor have I expressed a personal opinion, and spit it out as factual information without backing it (AS YOU HAVE) Having said that, a lot of Zeitgeist’s source citation is empirical, some is not. Sorry to tell you pal, but “language” has nothing to do with the validity of the movie. You’re not backing your ideas; you’re only stating your personal opinion. You should really keep your lips focused on Jesus’ dick.
thecivilwar1865 5 days ago
@droptozro Furthermore, I have a Master’s Degree in Law from Queens University, and have studied Early Judeo- Christianity extensively over the past 6 years. I have personally studied scholarly, peer reviewed journals that clearly make reference to the “Jesus” story long before the biblical existence of Jesus. Christianity is merely an idea a concept. The Jesus concept is previously applied ideas; borrowed and manipulated. You take it literally because you can’t admit to living a lie!
thecivilwar1865 5 days ago
@droptozro As far history, Well, If it can be verified by empirical evidence I may believe it. FIND ME ONE FUCKING SCHOLLARLY JOURNAL THAT ACCEPTS “your Jesus story” AS AN EMPERICAL FACT!! YOU CAN’T CUZ IT DOES NOT EXIST! IT’S A FUCKING CONCEPT! AS I SAID, Fuck you and your false idols. You and your thought are unproven, ONLY OPINION NO FACTS; You are an abomination
thecivilwar1865 5 days ago
@thecivilwar1865
just an angry angry person toting his degree... lol. good thing Scripture says "At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank you, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hid these things from the wise and prudent, and have revealed them to babes"
High and mighty will fall... proud is an abomination(Prov 16:5), you said everything opposite to Scripture and filled with so much hate. I pity you... No, Zeitgeist is not empirically backed up with good sources..
droptozro 5 days ago
@thecivilwar1865 ...it's laughable all the way down to it's very foundations. The very fact that you're even here and giving the film ANY credit of source reliability shows that degree didn't do much for you.
The Scriptures are correct, and have been--still testing the times, still around no matter how much people wish to deny. Why? Because they're true. The prophecies have come true, and they will continually---and Christ will return one day and reign on this earth. Repent now.
droptozro 5 days ago
@droptozro No Pal, you still arn't getting it, SHOW ME EMPERICAL EVIDENCE OF "YOUR GOD's EXISTENCE" ??? Your Opinion is not a fact; it is your belief, a wish, a pipe dream.You keep bringing up Zeitgeist; which is nothing more than "over the top drama" and some exaggerated facts; however, some of its sources that reference a "Pre-Christian" Jesus story are accurate. No matter which way you cut it, You can't prove your ideas, I CAN! and Will, THIS IS MY EARTH :)))
thecivilwar1865 5 days ago
@droptozro cultus diabolus laus ut flamma; Mark my words Child' I WILL TATTOO MY NUMB3R INTO YOUR FLESH. Alongside my partner; Ratzinger XVi
thecivilwar1865 5 days ago
@thecivilwar1865
And December wasn't even an invented month, yet this film claims Jesus was born on Dec 25th? Really now? anything of that in the Scriptures that record all this? Uh nope, actually to the contrary--better chance He was born in the fall. Shepherds don't keep watch in the winter fields, little too cold. : /
And why so angry? So much anger just for holding a view? The Scripture actually says all knowledge is in Him, so no--it's real intelligence, all the rest is false.
droptozro 5 days ago
I love how it's mostly religious people who are commenting, Why even bother watching it if it's not what you believe? XD
Mmmilton241 4 weeks ago
pretentious ignorants
Pathricks 1 month ago
Of coarse there were never Dinosaurs...Yer right. I mean come on please....This movie/Doco makes way more sense than the Bible ever will.. But of coarse as a species we are extremely stupid. So its no wonder people don't want to believe any of this. The really funny thing are the videos here on You tube trying to Debunk this movie. Not one of them makes any sense at all. Very funny
Stopthegreed 1 month ago
this is just a poor quality documentary featuring bogus claims and childish ideas
Watchthephotosmove 1 month ago
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BasicSpace42 1 month ago
OMG! have you ever heard so many LIES?????
go2mikerenzi 1 month ago
The only zeitgeist that actually makes sense.
Bleumange 2 months ago
So true
undergroundjewell 2 months ago
@undergroundjewell fake fake fake who crucifeid horus then?
who seen the resurrection of horus? where are the manuscripts?
where was horus buried?
TheStrawbeery 2 months ago
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@TheStrawbeery "fake fake fake who crucifeid horus then?
who seen the resurrection of horus? where are the manuscripts?
where was horus buried?"
-See, this is the problem, people like you expect everyone else to answer your questions instead of making an effort and researching for yourself. Christians often question, not to learn, but to defend their faith as they have no intention of even listening but to cause trouble.
InsanityComplex1 1 month ago
@TheStrawbeery We try to be reasonable and provide strong factual arguments against your claims as you're brainwashed to spread the word, thus creating problems, we are then forced to resort to "swearing", insults and namecalling because you people refuse to leave people alone as you people also try to defame people like Peter Joseph because your faith in this almightly god holds no weight in reality.
InsanityComplex1 1 month ago
@InsanityComplex1 you have no strong factual arguments,
your'e not forced to namecall that's your'e choice to namecall
or swearing you saying what's in your'e heart at least be honest
about that. and please be honest about the fact you don't want to belive
there's a god that's the real reason.
TheStrawbeery 1 month ago
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@TheStrawbeery "you have no strong factual arguments"
-Yeah, you keep telling yourself this so you can keep believing because reality scares you.
"your'e not forced to namecall that's your'e choice to namecall"
-You mean the same way it's your choice to relentlessly try converting everyone to your deadly religion, refusal to listen or question and then throw a tantrum when anyone attempts to challenge your faith leaving people no choice but to become frustrated??
InsanityComplex1 1 month ago
@TheStrawbeery "and please be honest about the fact you don't want to belive there's a god"
-1. It's not a matter of choice, it's a matter of rational skepticism and 2, The only ones who can't be honest about their absence of belief are those who must remain in the closet because of strict and heavily religious families.
InsanityComplex1 1 month ago
@InsanityComplex1 if have no problem having a god excist
it is a matter of choice you are making up excuses not to belive therefore your'e logic fails and beliving in god is not a religion
get your'e facts straight before you go off sprewing
TheStrawbeery 1 month ago
@TheStrawbeery "it is a matter of choice you are making up excuses not to belive therefore your'e logic fails"
-Well, based on absence of reason to believe, no, I am not in denial as you are throwing your life away to such a notion.
"beliving in god is not a religion"
-You're partially correct, religion is about having faith, knowing the bible and obeying domgas.
InsanityComplex1 1 month ago
@InsanityComplex1 no you can go with your'e non facts
because real christians don't murder people sorry
TheStrawbeery 1 month ago
@TheStrawbeery Well, people who claim to be christians are commiting these crimes and if you're correct, they're making all of you look bad so instead of arguing with us, why not do something about it, huh? It's only been going on for millenia.
InsanityComplex1 1 month ago
@InsanityComplex1 the so called christians is not making me look
bad they make themselves look bad and they will be judged on
on judgement day and i'm am doing something about.
what do you think christians do twidle our thumbs and hope
they stop. no we called out fake christians too
TheStrawbeery 1 month ago
@TheStrawbeery "get your'e facts straight before you go off sprewing"
Fact: Kids are constantly being force fed their parents' religions because the church has brainwashed them. Some infants even die because of parents' reliance on prayer.
Fact: Most religious people are opposed to gay/lesbian marriage because the bible claims they're all evil and an abomination.
Fact: Abortion doctors are sometimes murdered but some christians believe in war.
Should I go on?
InsanityComplex1 1 month ago
@InsanityComplex1 if your'e talking about real church goers
of fake church goers?? why are you lumping all together?
that's your'e opinion that's not a fact. you're talking about religious
hyporcrites. there's a difference religious hyporcrites are not oppose
to homosexuals/lesbian that's the correct term. but one who follow
god truely is oppose to the wicked lifestyle
homosexuality is evil.
abortions are murdered by non-christians
no christians belive in war
now you can go on
TheStrawbeery 1 month ago
@TheStrawbeery RELIGION ITSELF IS CAUSING THESE IMMORAL BEHAVIOURS NOW AREN'T THEY? Yes, I am aware that there are 38, 000 different denominations of christianity, but that's because all of you turn to it like fucking vultures and then run away with either your own interpretations or picking and choosing from it to suit your fuckin fancy and even using it to justify bigotries and murder while claiming moral superiority under the same breath!
InsanityComplex1 1 month ago
@TheStrawbeery Christianity is lifelong altruistic servitude/devotion to the god of its bible which demands absolute obedience of its dogmas and while those who subscribe to it are guilty of the "sins" while they condemn everyone else for not believing and repenting THEIR sins.
Once again though, you're not listening which is only typical of you asshole hypocrites, go fuck your christ.
InsanityComplex1 1 month ago
@InsanityComplex1 truth hurts don't it?? i knew you would
result to name calling soon but you won't say those words
on judgement day. god of the bible is a loving god,
but you wouldn't know that because you are so endulged
in intellectual idolatry where you're opinions are your'e idols,
your'e knowledge is your'e god, your'e thoughts are the things
you worship. = intellectual idolatry
TheStrawbeery 1 month ago
@TheStrawbeery Oh, piss off.
InsanityComplex1 1 month ago
@TheStrawbeery is this dude surz?lol this is a troll he is saying out that we are smart and cristians stupid xD lol and in the bible you find that god killed billions while statan killed 0 i think max 5 but if so it was in gods name/order =) all cristians need to follow the one thats not hatefull satan or gtfo whith there damn hatefull book of war!
shadow0700 1 month ago
@shadow0700 God execute judgement God give people
a chance to get right with him, you don't even know the
God of the bible to say such things. and yeah follow straight
to hell. where there is weeping and waling,and knashing of teeth
utter torment forever,forever forever,and forever, yeah you get i think.
and your'e the one that's hateful
TheStrawbeery 1 month ago
@TheStrawbeery ahh hell made by the all loving and forgiving god =) how nice of him<3
shadow0700 1 month ago
@shadow0700 oh yeah people send themselves to hell
and for the record God made hell for the devil not for humans
and people ant to follow the devil hell you will go
TheStrawbeery 1 month ago
@TheStrawbeery and you to =) remember the bible? god is the one who decides my fate not you. you stand aganst god that means your going to hell to :D how fun right?.but i got a brain and know all that is a story and not true lol. dude saying your going to hell yust makes you look stupid,be nice and gtfo whith your hatefull religion :D
shadow0700 1 month ago
@shadow0700 saint's shall judge the world.
you don't have to go to hell you can convert
but it's not my job to convert. and i don't see where
i gave you a sentence to hell. and second you don't
know the bible at all. how do you know you have a brain
have you ever seen it?? you'll get tommorow point is the stories has been proven with archaelogical
data, if study you would know that.
if you have a brain "sarcasim"
TheStrawbeery 1 month ago
@TheStrawbeery lol so its proven that jesus was a son of god who lived 2000years ago and did evrything the bible says? its proven that god made a man kill his son? its a fact that god made the world like 4000years ago? its a fact that the bible is true cus the bible says so?. and yes i seen my brain you can go to the hospital and get a pic of it =) and god is a story only those who dont know the world and fear death thinks its true.there is no soul its the brain.
shadow0700 1 month ago
@shadow0700 of course jesus was the son of god
and it was proven. and yes jesus was sinless and jesus
was the word of god the bible is fact because the bible
predicted world history before world history began..
you saw a picture of your'e brain you didn't see your'e
actual brain. and the fact you can't even prove that
ther is no soul
TheStrawbeery 4 weeks ago
@TheStrawbeery you can prove that there is no soul its the ebulotion of the brain combined whith memorys thats makes you you...and no there is no prove of jesus or that he was the son of god.and no the bible is not try just cus it says so...in i write a book saying that the world was made 5 days ago and you yust think you lived longer and its try cus my book says so will you beleve it? NO cus its fucking stupid lol xD
shadow0700 4 weeks ago
@TheStrawbeery and are the world flat? no... you know you can also pray to anything.its as praying to god pray to a soda can it will anser your pray whith a yes no and maby.example--> ohh holy soda can give me a pie. there may be a pie thrown in your window..you may get a pie 1week later.or never.dont you see how stupid that is? change the word pie to god now and see =) its the same ans yes its stupid.you think you can cure some one bu begging got they ether will or not if not it
shadow0700 1 month ago
@shadow0700 what you just said with all due respect made absolutely
no sense at all none
TheStrawbeery 4 weeks ago
@TheStrawbeery was god who made that person die
shadow0700 1 month ago
I have found similar information to Zeitgeist in A&E's Mysteries of the Bible "Jesus:Holy Child" and National Geographics "Egyptian Secrets of the Afterlife".
Information39 2 months ago
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boxbreaker2011 3 months ago
I'm NOT a fan of religion at all....
BUT, the story of Horus as presented by Zeitgeist is complete BULLSHIT and not even close to what Horus' mythology is.
First of all Horus' birth was NOT a virgin birth, it was a "Divine birth", look it up, basically Isis constructed a PENIS from her dead husband's body parts along with her magic to conceive Horus......that's not a virgin birth at all!!!
All the other stuff about Horus is fucking ridiculous and I've never heard it in ANY mythology...
boxbreaker2011 3 months ago
zeitgeist addendum the religion part is A Lie!!!like satan will deceive many!
its part of illuminati Agenda to make people away from God!..
dont buy it easily!.. do ur research!...
nuketherothschild666 3 months ago
@nuketherothschild666 If I was the illuminati and I needed a belief system to corral much of the world into blind worship, I would use christianity. It's perfect! Perfect in the sense that it already exists, it is full of blind believers, it rakes in TRILLIONS of dollars, etc.
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
a rat race between illuminati zionism & Gods army..put an end to the U.S and Israel power trip , they only care bout themselves and will use other countries ( your country ) to accomplish their evil plan for the world , if u think hitlers holocaust was something thats childsplay compare to what the U.S and Israel have Plan for us . how many wars have the U.S started with no valid cause in the past 100 years. the american government is not your friend time to put an end to them .
nuketherothschild666 3 months ago
im not religious and this is just mind blowing that sun stuff omg just amazing
i have this thing for Egyptian history and i never thought about the whole ra thing O.O
CancorseTV1 3 months ago
does anyone know the song they use! its just awesome
CancorseTV1 3 months ago
i realize this was posted a while ago, but why would the uploader leave the quotes of jacob maxwell and george carlin?
sanriver12 3 months ago
Jesus wasnt born on december 25th...thats just they day we chose to celebrate hs birth
BigOshMusic 4 months ago
Its so cool how God paints his amazing love story into the stars, but what does this have to do with what Jesus did on the cross? This video doesn't really explain spiritual similarities I mean Jesus died for a reason
JovB23 4 months ago
@JovB23 you dumbass there is no jesus and if he ever were he is not son of god thus there is no god,
how complicated thisvideo is ffs.
hellagesoon 4 months ago
Dionysus born of a virgin??That's rediculous!!Dionysos was son of Zeus and Semele!!Semele was not a virgin!!
Chva81 4 months ago
How strange, absolutely no where in the Bible does it say that Jesus was born on Dec 25th, so the comparison is now completely meaningless. Horus is said to rise in the morning every single day of the year, not just on 12/25. Horus was not born a virgin. Orion's belt was not called "The 3 Kings" in antiquity, only recently. They also align with Sirius and the sun that way for many months, not just on Dec 25th. Son and Sun do not sound the same in Latin, Greek and countless other languages.
TorontoBoi 4 months ago
The words Sun, and Son, are only homonyms in english! latin they are Sol, and Filius ..this off base...way off..and in Greek, they are not the same words..nothing alike!
adamant623 4 months ago 7
@adamant623 in greek: ilios = sun, gios = son
when you say them its like this: ilios = sun, ios = son
ill stay neutral on greek tho they are similar.
hellagesoon 4 months ago
@adamant623 that is a strawman fallacy- this sun/son pun, as well as all the rebuttals towards this movie have been thoroughly refuted. This movie is true. Even if it weren't, there is no doubt that religions borrow from one another.
The basic Animism gave birth to Shamanism then Polytheism and Pantheism, and then finally Theism. Its all bunk my friend, be happy that the millions of lives lost in natural disasters weren't by the hands of a conscious being, but by an indifferent universe. Peace.
bigredphenom 3 months ago
@adamant623 Just a thought I had about this "Son/Son" thing... I'm Danish, and the Danish word for sun is also "sol", but the day called sunday in english is not called "Sol"-dag in danish, it's called "Søn-dag" wich translates to SONday in english... isn't it weird?! :) I don't know why it's called sonday and not sunday in our language though, but I think it's something about religion as well...
MahtobSecrets 1 month ago
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"Look deep into nature [and how it works], and you will understand everything better." - Albert Einstein
MajorisVYCanis 5 months ago
Completely distored. First SUN and SON only sound alike in the english lang. Horus was not the Sun God (RA was). Iris (horus mother) was a widow to Osiris and resurrected him from the dead and later birthed Horus (she was not a virgin). Horus born on the 25th of Dec is irrelevant as the bible never states that Christ was borth on Dec 25th that date was only adopted hundrds of yrs ago. Other "gods" mentioned is a complete deception. Research and youll realize this videos claims are ridiculous.
15PhenomenoN 6 months ago
@15PhenomenoN Ah, the movie hasn't stated - so far - that the "son" of 'god' was regarded to be the same thing as the sun. What the movie HAS stated, is that many sun-gods of heathen religions preceeded the "Jesus Christ" mythology - some by well over a thousand years - and had many aspects that were picked up by the Greco-Romanized Jews and incorporated into THEIR version of the "sun" gods....
WWZenaDo 4 months ago
@15PhenomenoN Zoon and Zon (Dutch). Sohn and Sonne (German). Sin and Sunce (Kroatian). søn and sol (Danish).
swatdaman 4 months ago
@swatdaman ^ that is pretty cool
CancorseTV1 3 months ago
@15PhenomenoN follow your own advice and research. ra = horus, google "Ra, who is Horus of the Two Horizons"
sanriver12 3 months ago
@sanriver12 The confusion is that there was more than one gdo "Horus". But Zeitgeist seems to be trying to merge them. Horus (son of Isis + Osiris) = god of the heavens/sky god. Horus who merged w/ Ra and became Re-Horakhty. Seperate Deities. Nonetheless all these claims are still inaccurate. Horus(of Osiris)' mother was IRIS not IRIS-MERI and she was not a virigin. His birth was never preceeded by a star. Wise men -not 3 kings (bible never mentions the number 3) sought Jesus....
15PhenomenoN 3 months ago
@15PhenomenoN apparently you have a problem with gods merging but believe in the holy trinity. "scumbag christian"... that's a meme by the way, not calling you a scumbag
sanriver12 3 months ago
@sanriver12 No where does is state that Horus was baptized and no where does it state that Horus was crucified, in fact never mentions that he died/has ever died. Everything else was copied from the life and death of christ and labeled as if it was Horus' life i.e, disciples, miracles performed, nick-names, True research fails to recongnize any similiarity between the two. Yet people will fall for these claims. Because people will believe ANYTHING they want to believe, so there you go...
15PhenomenoN 3 months ago
@15PhenomenoN "Because people will believe ANYTHING they want to believe" are you talking bout the bible? lol
sanriver12 3 months ago
@sanriver12 Never claimed to be christian. Just deciphering stories that could very well all be fairy tales, bible included. Difference; i'm willing to research, not go straight to wikipedia and copy phrases. I know the stories of the bible, i know stories of ancient Egypt & Greek mythology, and distinguish the 2. "The bible is a fairytale and i will do everything to debunk it or discredit it"..why bother?? lol Leave the facts where the facts are and leave the stories alone
15PhenomenoN 3 months ago
I am very interested in someone who can help me answer this.. someone serious .. please
Why doesnt this actually proove the opposite ? that all of those faiths confirm that jesus exist in different forms through out the century .. and why doesnt it give credit to this man-god- ?
can someone make a good argument? btw i am neutral or against religion myself but this is an interesting question
TheRogueMonk 6 months ago
@TheRogueMonk Why believe in something than we have no prove at all than its real?
L3galHustl3 6 months ago
@TheRogueMonk watch?v=vRCBjqC-IVc&feature=related at 1:10 lol, common after all the knowledge we have today this is completely absurd believe than we are the center of the universe, stop dreaming
L3galHustl3 6 months ago
This is goofy and entertaining.
Oneirovore 6 months ago
Now i know why every1 says that Evil is red!!! LOL
Mrakw1 6 months ago
God could not create the universe because before the Big Bang, time did not exist, which means there was no time for a god to create a universe and cause a big bang
ViBeMagIc 6 months ago
the more the human gain knowledge the more he question the things that are holy!!
dyantrompeta2011 6 months ago
WATCH THE ARRIVAL with CHARLIE SHEEN as he convulses in a medical bed after having downed seven gram rocks! Witness the glory of his backward bending legs as he morphs into an alien only to travel to California to start a hit show wherein two men and a kid booz it up and start a prostitution ring!
naneux 6 months ago
Religions may be incorrect, just live a good life and love who loves you, hate who hates you.
TR1PPER85 7 months ago
God forged his birth certificate. Lolsss
benakitodits 7 months ago
5 dislikes are dumbass cult members who are raised to belive in bullshit by their parents.
cp3d18 7 months ago 16
@cp3d18 man i get in so many arguments with my whole family cause im the only atheist and they've even kicked me out of my house before and i cant go to any family christmas parties or anything cause they banned me, my family is so fucking hooked on religion its disgusting
ryanandbranslurppiss 3 months ago
@ryanandbranslurppiss I have the same problem. My girlfriends dad is an over the top religious person. He wouldn’t talk to us because I wasn’t interested in going to church. Then last year, he pulled her off to the side and told her she was going to hell if she didn’t change. I refuse to go to any xmas or easter family gatherings.
Information39 2 months ago
@ryanandbranslurppiss "kicked me out of my house before and i cant go to any family christmas parties " Ah, the brotherhood and love of Christianity, right? LOL Don't worry and don't fight. These sick pagan rituals are everywhere waiting for fights. Purify your own body, see the truth yourself, and nothing else matters. After al we are each truly alone, meaning "all one." I know it is tough, sometimes it is tough for me during this time of year, but brother the truth sets us free!
FathomlessJoy 2 months ago
WATCH THE ARRIVALS!!
the arrivals is a 52 part series on youtube and is one of the best NWO series and goes into religion the elite and satanism and all inbetween
pinball281 7 months ago
I was a christian/catholic by tradition. Now im not so sure.. I did some research on it... may God forgive me.
christsgirlfriend 7 months ago
@christsgirlfriend if god prohibits intelligence=free thinking then there's no need to fear him, he can't be god
faith is a good thing, whether it be in god, friends, family or whatever but facts shouldn't be ignored
Daski69 6 months ago
this video is anti-christ
get it?
pinball281 7 months ago
@pinball281 WATCH THE ARRIVAL! With charlie sheen, watch as he twists in his own vomit!
naneux 7 months ago
@malikwms1 I know what you mean man...... LOL jokes, your a weirdo
97haig 7 months ago
there will be many false messiahs that will come before you stating they are me. Don't be decieved. As they are not me. Said jesus. Zeitgeist debunked.
jeremyelliott1 8 months ago
This video kinda sucks. I am reading "The Gods of Eden" by William Bramley. He gives a better explanation of Jesus who Bramley claims actually existed and how Jesus WAS born of a virgin through artificial insemination performed by the Custodians/'gods". This video, however, sounds very juvenile. It probably contains some truth but very unconvincing.This video is a disservice to the truth movement. Shame.
Rita1972 8 months ago
wow I would only say this why was all of this denying god and yet there was barely information about the devil and may be illuminati wff is this ? this is shit is designed to forsake GOD WHAT ABOUT ISLAM,HINDUISM,BUDDAHISM,SANTANISM why didn't u bring information about that I can only say u have barely opened my eyes
mevnation 9 months ago
The ancient Hebrews had no astrological tradition at all. The Torah condemns astrology, so therefore the christian tradition, which emerged from the Jewish tradition would have NOTHING to do with astrology. The theme of "twelve" disciples was a fulfillment of the prefigured twelve tribes of Israel, stemming from the 12 sons of Jacob, not astrology. The southern cross constellation was not discovered until the 16th century.
StAugustine79 10 months ago
Fabricated nonsense. Anyone with ANY basic understanding of the history of ancient pagan religions will know that there is NO correlation between Jesus of Nazareth and these mythic figures. These parallels are forced and completely fabricated. There is NO historical evidence that Horus, portrayed with the head of an eagle, ever existed. Crucifixion was not practiced in ancient Egypt, nor was Horus baptized nor resurrected, nor born of a virgin, but of Isis and Osiris.
StAugustine79 10 months ago
This video, which is part of the Zeitgeist documentary, is mostly Wrong on the info it shows AND IS MADE IN A PERSUASIVE MANNER just to make you believe every little word.. C'mon, 5 or 6 gods on a list and comparing them like a Car's top speed, milage... This is pure BrainWashing..
Watchthephotosmove 10 months ago
is one of his ways of deceiving people. And Satan knew that Jehovah God had intended a saviour for us since the beginning just look in the book of Genisis after Adam and Eve had disobeyed. Jehovah foretold of a symbolic "seed" that would crush Satan. And this was fortold before the egyptians were around soooooooo Satan had the egyptians under his influence and could show them all of this manipulate them blah blah blah nice try athiests....but u cant crush the creator of the universe so easily
powderpuff86 11 months ago
The truth is these are not mentioned in the bible. The "Dec 25" date and "3" kings number come from these pagan demon worshipping religions all described here in this movie. And it is yes, the Catholic religion who introduced these pagan origins into Christianity and carrying them into today. No one bothers to look into these things they just say hey its tradition dont mess with tradition blah blah blah BUT if u expect the devil to flee from you you cannot partake in his works, and astrology
powderpuff86 11 months ago
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Modern day christendom does infact teach these things about Jesus, problem is, they arent teaching whats actually in the bible. Modern day Christendom is a counterfiet of what true christianity is. No where in the bible does it say Jesus Christ was born on Dec 25 or the number of "kings" (astrologers) who we looking for him.
powderpuff86 11 months ago
Modern day christendom does infact teach these things about Jesus, problem is, they arent teaching whats actually in the bible. Modern day Christendom is a counterfiet of what true christianity is. No where in the bible does it say Jesus Christ was born on Dec 25 or the number of "kings" (astrologers) who went looking for him.
powderpuff86 11 months ago
@powderpuff86 Actually, what it says in the Bible is that Jehovah liked bloodshed and encouraged the Hebrews to eliminate cities full of innocent children and animals even if everybody else was "wicked". Read Joshua 6:21 and Joshua 6:24 and Joshua 10:40. Oh, and they saved a prostitute's!!! life because she betrayed her people and helped the Hebrews. Unfortunately, people trust preachers without realizing what the faith is all about. Believe me, I am finally recovering from the deceit.
Rita1972 8 months ago
@Rita1972 Oh I am sorry to hear that. It's real sad what religion has done to the world and people today it has casued so much divisions and hatred. I had to break up with my boyfriend of three years because he is indian and his family does not believe in going outside of their culture because this is what they have been brainwashed to beleive. Very Sad. I hope it all ends soon one day because the human race can't go on like this...:-(
powderpuff86 8 months ago
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@Rita1972 Oh I am sorry to hear that. It's real sad what religion has done to the world and people today it has casued so much divisions and hatred. I had to break up with my boyfriend of three years because he is indian and his family does not believe in going outside of their culture because this is what they have been brainwashed to beleive. Very Sad. I hope it all ends soon one day because the human race can't go on like this...:-(
powderpuff86 8 months ago
Modern day christendom does infact teach these things about Jesus, problem is, they arent teaching whats actually in the bible. Modern day Christendom is a counterfiet of what true christianity is. No where in the bible does it say Jesus Christ was born on Dec 25 or the number of "kings" (astrologers) who went looking for him.
powderpuff86 11 months ago
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Always been a war between sun god and true God, i.e., Moses and Ramus (son of Ra), Canaanites’ Baal and the ten tribes, Babylon and Marduk against Judah, Alexandra’s Apollo and the Maccabees. Constantine’s Catholic coup d’état against Christians. God commanded not to worship t sun god trinity: Deuteronomy 4:19 Deuteronomy 17:3. The children of God worship sun god when apostate Jeremiah 15:9 2 Kings 23:5 then they were punished for doing so.
ApostasyRestoration 11 months ago
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Always been a war between sun god and true God, i.e., Moses and Ramus (son of Ra), Canaanites’ Baal and the ten tribes, Babylon and Marduk against Judah, Alexandra’s Apollo and the Maccabees. Constantine’s Catholic coup d’état against Christians. God commanded not to worship t sun god trinity: Deuteronomy 4:19 Deuteronomy 17:3. The children of God worship sun god when apostate Jeremiah 15:9 2 Kings 23:5 then they were punished for doing so.
ApostasyRestoration 11 months ago
this is so sad! to read these comments between people and to she how the devils plan to dessive people is working is almost unbarable. yes i watched this movie and heard what had to be said but its not all acurate. anyone can piece together facts to make anything look not as it is! i know The Way is right. i Kno god is real! I felt his presence, ive seen miracles, ive be over whelmed with the hly ghost! so it has to be real.
~praise you father, they do not know of what they do. forgive them!
malikwms1 1 year ago
@malikwms1 lol thats cute
ajomez 1 year ago
@ajomez have some respect/decency!, you're a 32 year old grown man for crying out loud
thundertower 11 months ago
All of those religions copied off of the old testament. Jesus's death was predicted in the old testament. It was talked about greatly in the book of Daniel and the other prophets. So, yea. This argument is very weak. I could break it down with simple Bible scripture. Don't be deceived people!
TheIsraelite7777 1 year ago
Jesus is the TRUTH!!!
rayrod114 1 year ago
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Here is a response for all the "facts" in this video. Type it letter by letter in your browser - posting does not allow links any other way. You won't be disappointed:
h t t p : / / w w w . y o u t u b e . c o m / w a t c h ? v = J M h k T B b g w w E
God bless!
TheRneall 1 year ago
@TheRneall And for those who would rather read some stuff, check out:
h t t p : / / w w w . g o t q u e s t i o n s . o r g / J e s u s - m y t h . h t m l
Really, I think people create these types of movies because they are against Christianity. Am I correct in this? (feel free to email a hardcore Christian at biblequestions @ j e s u s a n s w e r s . c o m for questions/comments.)
TheRneall 1 year ago 2
@TheRneall For those would rather read facts as opposed to "stuff," check out:
/watch?v=rdbgou-Jt-g
A collection of sources.
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TheRneall 1 year ago
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HOW THIS ZEITGEIST DOESNT BELIEVE WITH BAD AND GOOD TO BE JUDGED HERE AT THE LAST DAY? THE SPIRT SHOULD BE STRONG WHEN CHOSEN BY GOD...FOR ZEITGEIST NO WAR NO KILLINGS...HOW CAN A GOOD SPIRIT BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE EVIL ONE? THERE SHOULD BE A SEPARATION IN BETWEEN WEAK AND STRONG, THATS WHY WE ARE HERE IN THIS WORLD FOR A MERE TEST..AND THIS IS NOT A HEAVEN...GOD IS NOT UNFAIR OR MAN-MADE GOD FOR WHAT THIS MOVEMENT IS TRYING TO EMPHASIZE. WE SHOULD LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKE...BEWARE!!
KelvongKlein 1 year ago
LOL... i dont remeber where i heard or read this but " Going to war over religion is like fighting to see who has the better imaginary friend" I think it fits appropriately here.
AndrewQ84 1 year ago
@Daledoo0 im fucking joking relax ... ! jesus ( no pun intended)
waterfordgeezer 1 year ago
@Daledoo0 he's just joking dude... or is he? :O
hulabula13 1 year ago
Fuck this !!!!! i beleive in god and jesus ... you cant disprove that .. fuck science !
waterfordgeezer 1 year ago
@waterfordgeezer yes... fuck science. good one!
mikes4991 1 year ago
the religion part of this movie is great but idk about the rest of it.... interesting though regardless..... I'm gunna have to research some of this stuff its really awesome, i think I'll write my college history paper on these similiarities between Christianity and other religions..But some of the stuff in this movie is BS like, many of these civilizations spoke DIFFERENT languages so the whole "God's Sun" stuff is BS because these people's word "sun" and "son" would be completely different
xDroflmao1337 1 year ago
I will post this message on all 3 parts of this documentary.
User name: "Digital Age" posed the question of "Who was the Egyptian Mises?"
User name: "Pirate AM" answered, "While I think "Zeitgeist" is a good attempt, it misses a ton of real facts and tries to make facts where none exist."
I agree with Pirate AM.
mcrevis 1 year ago
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I'm trying to figure out where December 25th came from. I mean obviously it's currently a day of celebration of Jesus' birth, Christmas, for many in modern times. But I don't think it's supposed to be because it is the actual historical date of Jesus' birth. There is no mention of a specific date in the Bible. I think this was just the date chosen for celebration. Why this date? I'm not sure; I've heard different reasons. Just a thought...
jessicayessica11 1 year ago
@jessicayessica11 December 25th is significant because it's the time of the Winter Solstice.
emsybop 1 year ago
I agree, science is an amazing thing!
Goomonkey13 1 year ago
God is real.Dissprove me.
DeDeDurINC 1 year ago
@DeDeDurINC God is real.Dissprove me.The other gods similarities are varied and twisted tales of Jesus.
DeDeDurINC 1 year ago
@DeDeDurINC how could they be twisted tales of jesus when they were around thousands of years before him. The bottom line is god doesnt exist and u really need to question your intelligence if you beleive in a magic man in the sky that made everything.
Mayhem108 1 year ago
@Mayhem108 Well there were prophets before Jesus.
DeDeDurINC 1 year ago
think what you like, but until we resolve the fact we live to die, and that humans are a mere lucky chance of being so, we must work with eachother to further our race, or else once that suns gone regardless of how many years, its death is a known thing, which if we don't focus more on space and our knowledge of space, instead of pointless wars, we are all doomed regardless of how much money you have everyone is bound to end up like our ancestors DEAD, its not to fret, rejoice and make peace.
420AnimeLove 2 years ago
religion is just a bunch of shit, first of everything in the universe is made up of hydrogen, helium, oxygen, and carbon ( with dark matter as the "void" or otherwords space ), so if this "god" created all this he himself would just be a bunch of atoms and protons, which in all would eventually die regardless of who or what he is, given the nature that all atoms, protons neutrons are born and are destroyed, thus god is nothing more than what everything else is, something that is born to die.
420AnimeLove 2 years ago 11
@420AnimeLove
God is eternal. That is what the Bible says. It's something your small brain couldn't even begin to comprehend. Science is NOTHING. God is all knowing and gave science what it has today. Everything science knows is not even .00000000000000000000000000000000000001% of what God knows. And that maybe isn't even close.
TheIsraelite7777 1 year ago
@TheIsraelite7777 What goat herder's writing is your favorite.
lhurien 1 year ago
@lhurien
Why do you mock the prophets? They have given truth. Anything they've said has been straight from the Lord's mouth. Are you accusing the Lord of being a liar? Where was you at when the Lord laid the foundations of the world? Who are you to say the Lord is a liar when you've never even studied the Bible yourself?
TheIsraelite7777 1 year ago
@TheIsraelite7777eeeehhhh! wrong! I was raised catholic. I also graduated from a catholic university magna cum laude. I studied the bible and to quote my favorite prophet, George Carlin, "it's just something that somebody made up." You're thinking is delusional but I have hope for you. You just need to educated yourself. Read some Dan Denett or A C Grayling. Or read the God Delusion and see if your "faith" holds up. I doubt it will if you're a rational person.
lhurien 1 year ago
@lhurien
That's even worse. Catholics don't know jack crap about the Bible. Ha. You just made yourself look pretty bad. You were apart of a religion that has killed hundreds of thousands of true Christians. Congratulations.
TheIsraelite7777 1 year ago
@TheIsraelite7777 eeehhh! Wrong again Holmes. I'm a devout atheist but you were'nt able to pick up on that because you don't know who the people I mentioned are. At least I know religious texts are crap, unlike you, you deluded slave. Christianity is a scam but you're not smart enough to get it. You religious assholes are the biggest reason for all the problems in the world.
lhurien 1 year ago
@lhurien
Eeehhh! Wrong. MAINSTREAM Christianity is a scam. The Christianity I follow is the same Christians the true followers of God followed. Me and my people follow the Bible. If it's not in the Bible, we don't follow it. Holidays, unclean foods, we don't follow it. We keep the laws, statutes, commandments, and holy days. We have sanctified ourselves from the rest of the world. BLESSED BE THE NAME OF THE LORD!
TheIsraelite7777 1 year ago
@TheIsraelite7777 let me add a correction, I said christianity is a scam. what i really meant to say is all religions are a scam. The bible is a hoax written by bronze age, illiterate desert dwellers. You said that catholics don't know crap about the bible and that's probably true for many or them. It wasn't till I began to study the bible and think for myself that I became an atheist. You accept all that crap because that is how you were brainwashed as a child, as i was. educate yourself.
lhurien 1 year ago
@lhurien
I've read nearly all the old testament and the new testament. I might not agree with some of the things that happened in their, but that's how it was. And I accept it. Cause that's part of what comes with having Faith.
God had a bunch of people killed. But wouldn't NONE of them righteous. They were not innocent. They sinned so greatly. They worshiped other gods and served them. They hearkened not unto the Word of the Lord. They went backwards instead of forwards. They were EVIL!
TheIsraelite7777 1 year ago
@lhurien
And if you do wickedly and do evil, you will die in your sins. Any day you could die if you don't follow the Word of the Lord. The Lord guarantees all who keep his commandments, laws, statutes, and holy days a long life.. and then eternal life after they are raised up again.
TheIsraelite7777 1 year ago
@lhurien
I don't want to taste death because I know what it's like. I was like that at one time.. before I was born.. I didn't know anything.. I didn't feel anything.. That's the same way it's going to be when you die. You will cease to live. You won't have any thoughts.. not until you are resurrected.. whether it be for eternal life or eternal damnation. The Bible says when we die, we have no thoughts. John 3:13 says nobody has ever went to heaven except for Jesus..
TheIsraelite7777 1 year ago
@lhurien
Ecclesiastes 9:5 says the dead don't know anything.. cause they are dead.
TheIsraelite7777 1 year ago
@TheIsraelite7777 Yogi says "it ain't over till it's over".
lhurien 1 year ago
@lhurien
Who is Yogi? Well when you are dead, it's over. Unless you did right, and kept the laws, statutes, commandments, and holy days and had faith in Jesus.
TheIsraelite7777 1 year ago
@TheIsraelite7777 Yogi Berra, New York Yankees. The point I'm making here is... my ridiculous quote is just as ridiculous as yours. Anyway, I think were done here bible thumper. I really don't want to hear any more of your stupid bible thumping nonsense.
lhurien 1 year ago
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@lhurien
What's wrong? Don't like what the Bible has to say?
TheIsraelite7777 1 year ago
@420AnimeLove kawai desu
thundertower 11 months ago
@420AnimeLove I disagree. Atoms don't make other atoms, it makes no sense.
AdeonC 11 months ago
The feeling of awed wonder that science can give us is one of the highest experiences of which the human psyche is capable. It is a deep aesthetic passion to rank with the finest that music and poetry can deliver. It is truly one of the things that make life worth living and it does so, if anything, more effectively if it convinces us that the time we have for living is quite finite
PlanbElliot 2 years ago
Forgot to mention that when they compared the different prophets characteristics they were pretty much alike. And that's something that makes wonder about what this is all about...
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