tis is a good triangle choke. but the best way to do it is to get your opponent's arm to the opposite side of his body, make its alot tighter alot quicker.
I see, but what about the positioning of the hips? If the hips are in line with the opponent, then the choke is not tight. Don't your hips have to be in as close to a 90 degree angle as possible?
most guys like me wont tap if my arm is not pulled across, if you dont, the choke is less effective and it gives the opponent better position to stack, thus losing the choke all together.
@MusicforMe123 it will and it does but you must exclude the chance of being gunned down or knifed down by the opponent. If you exclude knifes, guns, sticks, rocks, bottles and if it's a clean 1v1, this works like a charm.
@shawnkoolman1 This is advance Judo (meaning non-white belt). In Judo, you learn Sankaku Jime (Triangle Choke) when you get to be around orange belt (usually 4-8 months into training). But don't forget, the basic takedowns that a white/yellow belt learns in Judo, BJJ learns at blue/purple level. I find it very funny when a blue belt BJJ guys (with 2-3 years of experience) learn hip/shoulder throws ... that stuff is done by a 3 month Judo white belt. The door swings both ways on this one.
How is this an "Advanced Technique"? I learned this in my first month in BJJ training. And it didn't look like this either. Just seems like positioning is all wrong.
shouldn't his body be turned to his right? He would certainly get a better lock on the triangle. I've always been taught if you are still straight north and south with him your doing it wrong.. in my personal experience the triangle doesn't work as often if you stay there, especially if you let there arm stay where it is in this video. letting him stack, put his feet to your armpits and sit/ break the traingle. idk, im not a great bjj guy by any means, but this is terrible.
@Etaks89 You are correct. I don't know if it's just a judo version of a triangle or what. What's weird is I thought triangle chokes were illegal in sport judo (I assume this series focuses on sport as opposed to self-defense stuff).
@Etaks89 I thought the same thing. At least was waiting for him to grab the shin and pull it in to make it tighter. And Although it is VERY difficult to get it without the arm across, this just seems incorrect. IDK
what the fuck look guys your throws are good but that triangle ive seen actually all white belts i know can do it better but your throws are class like pure good
@simpson4563 it could, but you should learn a little wrestling and alot of bjj. boxing is great to learn too! People like to clinch up in street fights cause they don't like getting hit, or because they just suck that bad at keeping composure, what ever the reason, you are likely to end up in a clinch that resembles judo or greco, but you have to practice daily to have the consistence to pull it off on someone in the street with no gi. BJJ is better to have if you had to choose just one.
Wow, (everyone who made a bad comment.....) You have to go the trouble to look up a fucking video on YOUTUBE, and you don't like it? Well go on a real fucking tecnique site to find what your looking for, but nobody wants to read or listen to pathetic and worthless comments.....
@mrcook230 Actually, you should be happy people are pointing out the terrible technique. If you did everything these guys do, you'd know nothing about actual Judo.
One of the first things you ever learn in BJJ is to have both your arms either in or out, not one in, one out, like his uke has. No-one who has any amount of training behind them would ever try to pass the guard like that, you are asking to get triangled.
If you want to learn throws, go to a Judo guy. If you want to learn groundwork, go to a BJJ guy, not these amateurs. That triangle was horrible.
You gotta remember that this is an Expertvillage video though, and they make the absolute worse lesson videos ever. I've seen a couple of em where they had a judoka with the red and white belt, so I doubt these guys suck as well. Expertvillage just shows the most basic things that any retard could do, or in this case, avoid completely.
i agree, ive just started judo a month ago after years of doing other stuff its mostly good, but this is how they teach a transition to a triangle, i was very surprised myself.
@murphygp i have been doin judo 40 years i have never seen this done this way before as a young boy nearly all the fighting was ground work so not just throws. expert village are not expert i'm afraid and give the wrong impression
in dont know whats so wrong about the choke. I ve used this many time successfully in Judo against resisting opponents. The armbar even works if the opponent manages to bend his arm in a ude garami fashion.
When u showin a triangle, u have to show that the real deal when ur doing it is to get a angle so u can lock the choke much more easily. expert village my ass
it does that anyway so im not sure what you're talking about. if the choke is tight enough, you don't need to put the arm across the body. as long as the arm is in, it will cut the blood off.
It is a corotid choke. Really, uke's right arm should be across the chest. It makes it much more effective and requires much less preasure on the head that way (if any).
Now that the realities of fighting are so widely distributed, I have stopped martial arts training after many years. So, some of you MMA who are goons and bullies, keep this in mind if you decide to show off your techniques on seemingly defenseless people. This does not apply to the gentle people who practice MMA.
And know this, there is a still a level of techniques and strategies above this that I have yet to see distributed. They are just too dangerous for distribution.
I agree with you. I think most instructors with tell you to keep one hand on the arm so you got the joint lock too. This guy lets both his opponents arms free to do whatever. I think if you got the choke right your legs are definitely strong enough. No need to pull down on the head.
no gogoplata is when the sweeping leg is infront on the neck.. also known as a shin choke. This is sankakku jime, or in mma people call it the triangle choke
because that means that you "give up" .. in judo, and i know that cause i went to judo for 2½ years .. it's like rounds in boxing. when your in a fight in judo you smack your hand in the ground about 3 times when you think your opponent has overpowered you. and then a new round can begin :).. i hope that was an answer to your question Flipsykid :D
dont mean to be a critic but i consider it constructive more than "picking" to secure a triangle you must bring your leg ontop of the shoulder, scoot your hips in the same direction as you bring the persons arm accross thier throat and secure your ankle being your knee, in your demonstration, nothing is restricting the front of the throat because you left his arm behind.
What I meant was that I think this is a horrible execution of the "triangle choke," or Sankaku Jime. I'm a Sankyu in Judo, but the vast majority of my newaza comes from my cross training in BJJ. There are so many variations of the triangle choke setup/execution that I've learned, and while I'm not sure if this is the "proper" way to do it according to Kodokan Judo, I know it's one of the poorest in quality that I've seen in a LONG time.
no, this is most definitely not the 'proper' way to do it. if you need to grab the head at all (actually illegal in judo competition anyway) then the choke is not correct. grabbing the head is NOT necessary if you do the technique correctly. admittedly my technique leaves something to be desired, but i can point out a number of *very basic* problems in this video that should not be taught.
I wasn't aware you couldn't grab the head in judo competition... I actually asked my instructor if I could use a can opener to escape from a triangle in newaza, and he said it was perfectly legal, as long as you pulled the head straight downward in line with the spine.
tis is a good triangle choke. but the best way to do it is to get your opponent's arm to the opposite side of his body, make its alot tighter alot quicker.
LacrosseSniper7 2 weeks ago in playlist Advanced Judo Techniques
technique is piss poor, the demonstration is not effective and is taught on a poor manner
dadyj1987 6 months ago
things i liked: a. your leg is not wrapping his neck, so if he is strong and you wont be able to pull his head- not affective.
b- when u do the traingle choke you also do a leg lock to yourself.
GREAT VIDEO!
ghostuval 7 months ago
the triangle choke is a army used choke made to kill or knock out when in triangle choke you cannot breath
wheresthelove3573 7 months ago
the way he taps is like he is gonna die
trollwarlord3 7 months ago in playlist judo expertvillage 2
I see, but what about the positioning of the hips? If the hips are in line with the opponent, then the choke is not tight. Don't your hips have to be in as close to a 90 degree angle as possible?
angelfire532 8 months ago
what happened?why he tap out? no air or neck hurt?
alan513 8 months ago
i know the triangle choke originated in judo, but how many people here think that he missed some important details about finishing the choke?
angelfire532 8 months ago
it's like being forced to do a blowjob.
somehow it looks a bit (i'm sorry) gay. lol
03006081 8 months ago
@03006081 if your dick is on your belly you should go to a doctor.
Thebubbledude1 8 months ago
If i was the blue dude, i'd be pissed! :p
2Dahpoo 9 months ago
wow i really didnt know they had submissions like this in judo
azzarulz117 9 months ago
most guys like me wont tap if my arm is not pulled across, if you dont, the choke is less effective and it gives the opponent better position to stack, thus losing the choke all together.
MrSimon117 9 months ago
getting your penis bit off on the street might smart a little......
basicgorilla 1 year ago
shit pure shit
soares156 1 year ago
guy in blue says in his mind im tapping im tapping hes jut not moving!!! hes just not moving! i wish i could do this but im too big probably
pagelock5 1 year ago
That move will never work in a real fight.
MusicforMe123 1 year ago
@MusicforMe123 it will and it does but you must exclude the chance of being gunned down or knifed down by the opponent. If you exclude knifes, guns, sticks, rocks, bottles and if it's a clean 1v1, this works like a charm.
pcjudosambo 1 year ago
1:your foot wsn't under the knee right
2:no pulling down on the head in judo
3:you right foor wasn't directly above his head right
4:you body schould of shifted to the right
5:his arm wasn't even across his head to make a choke
6:too much exaggreration on the tap
7:this is sad
8:this is advances judo!? i learned this on the first week of bjj!!!!!!!!
shawnkoolman1 1 year ago
@shawnkoolman1 This is advance Judo (meaning non-white belt). In Judo, you learn Sankaku Jime (Triangle Choke) when you get to be around orange belt (usually 4-8 months into training). But don't forget, the basic takedowns that a white/yellow belt learns in Judo, BJJ learns at blue/purple level. I find it very funny when a blue belt BJJ guys (with 2-3 years of experience) learn hip/shoulder throws ... that stuff is done by a 3 month Judo white belt. The door swings both ways on this one.
pcjudosambo 1 year ago 5
If this gonna work you must be very brutal, haha
better of doing triangel choke whie laying on the left side of uke instead of infront of him.
TheNoFool 1 year ago
one fella is in his bath robe
sifcakes 1 year ago
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SUCH A FAKE TAP. the arm needs to be accrost the neck for the choke... this is just bad.
he dident even pull the head th right way. just bad.
Don123291 1 year ago
SUCH A FAKE TAP. the arm needs to be accrost the neck for the choke... this is just bad.
he dident even pull the head th right way. just bad
Don123291 1 year ago
lol he could have made the first choke alittle better imao!
takidabossen 1 year ago
How is this an "Advanced Technique"? I learned this in my first month in BJJ training. And it didn't look like this either. Just seems like positioning is all wrong.
GJJFan 1 year ago
blow job at 0:39
CodyDexx 1 year ago
00:01
PS3Christmas2009 1 year ago
omg real bad sankaku-jime, pulling head down no aint allowed in judo. the right foot wasnt under the left knee.
and whats with the exaggeration in the tap.
i dont have a dan grade in judo but damn
f9hunter 1 year ago
"they come up really fast, you don't have to fuck for them alot" lol i thoug thats what he said because i dont read the subtitles
lilgoalieman 1 year ago
shouldn't his body be turned to his right? He would certainly get a better lock on the triangle. I've always been taught if you are still straight north and south with him your doing it wrong.. in my personal experience the triangle doesn't work as often if you stay there, especially if you let there arm stay where it is in this video. letting him stack, put his feet to your armpits and sit/ break the traingle. idk, im not a great bjj guy by any means, but this is terrible.
Etaks89 1 year ago
@Etaks89 You are correct. I don't know if it's just a judo version of a triangle or what. What's weird is I thought triangle chokes were illegal in sport judo (I assume this series focuses on sport as opposed to self-defense stuff).
Bukaj1983 1 year ago
@Etaks89 I thought the same thing. At least was waiting for him to grab the shin and pull it in to make it tighter. And Although it is VERY difficult to get it without the arm across, this just seems incorrect. IDK
GJJFan 1 year ago
Not to argue with the master (hehe..) but in BJJ we put the arm across the body for the triangle choke, and i believe it makes a big difference.
NOSRACRECNEPS 1 year ago
this stuff looks gay
TheRomeo32 1 year ago
that looks so gay lol
liljbizzl 1 year ago
what the fuck look guys your throws are good but that triangle ive seen actually all white belts i know can do it better but your throws are class like pure good
eogh 1 year ago
Lol, looks like he was givin him a BJ XD
KimboSliceROCKS1223 1 year ago
@KimboSliceROCKS1223 if you were in hes position, a bj would be the least of your problems
styXv3ngeance 1 year ago
if i got attaked on the streets will judo help me
simpson4563 1 year ago
@simpson4563 it could, but you should learn a little wrestling and alot of bjj. boxing is great to learn too! People like to clinch up in street fights cause they don't like getting hit, or because they just suck that bad at keeping composure, what ever the reason, you are likely to end up in a clinch that resembles judo or greco, but you have to practice daily to have the consistence to pull it off on someone in the street with no gi. BJJ is better to have if you had to choose just one.
Etaks89 1 year ago
Wow, (everyone who made a bad comment.....) You have to go the trouble to look up a fucking video on YOUTUBE, and you don't like it? Well go on a real fucking tecnique site to find what your looking for, but nobody wants to read or listen to pathetic and worthless comments.....
mrcook230 1 year ago
@mrcook230 than dont read comment
Cousinzinzin 1 year ago
@mrcook230 Actually, you should be happy people are pointing out the terrible technique. If you did everything these guys do, you'd know nothing about actual Judo.
Bluesteel202 1 year ago
that triangle wouldnt choke out a baby!!
rasorman2 1 year ago
One of the first things you ever learn in BJJ is to have both your arms either in or out, not one in, one out, like his uke has. No-one who has any amount of training behind them would ever try to pass the guard like that, you are asking to get triangled.
If you want to learn throws, go to a Judo guy. If you want to learn groundwork, go to a BJJ guy, not these amateurs. That triangle was horrible.
murphygp 1 year ago 2
@murphygp Agreed
laurelridgerods 1 year ago
You gotta remember that this is an Expertvillage video though, and they make the absolute worse lesson videos ever. I've seen a couple of em where they had a judoka with the red and white belt, so I doubt these guys suck as well. Expertvillage just shows the most basic things that any retard could do, or in this case, avoid completely.
Drunkwraith 1 year ago
i agree, ive just started judo a month ago after years of doing other stuff its mostly good, but this is how they teach a transition to a triangle, i was very surprised myself.
ryanbryanryan 1 year ago
@murphygp i have been doin judo 40 years i have never seen this done this way before as a young boy nearly all the fighting was ground work so not just throws. expert village are not expert i'm afraid and give the wrong impression
motherofallevos 1 year ago
@murphygp Can't say it any better.
IrishDrifter85 1 year ago
in dont know whats so wrong about the choke. I ve used this many time successfully in Judo against resisting opponents. The armbar even works if the opponent manages to bend his arm in a ude garami fashion.
Zefobenga 2 years ago
That's an absolutely terrible triangle...maybe stick to your throws.
TheBikeLife 2 years ago 2
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TheBikeLife 2 years ago
worst triangel i have ever seen and the so called armbar? i mean WTF?
GOTTAVAGO 2 years ago
given head lol
ajdude33 2 years ago
thanks great video!!
LeonLaguna 2 years ago
that looked so gay in so many lvls
bleachmaster1011 2 years ago
LMFAO!!!!!
budstryker 2 years ago
When u showin a triangle, u have to show that the real deal when ur doing it is to get a angle so u can lock the choke much more easily. expert village my ass
xSkinHeadRuelzx 2 years ago
the arm should go across the body therefore blocking off the 2 karated arteries when you pull the head down one with your leg the other with his arm
skoodge2 2 years ago
it does that anyway so im not sure what you're talking about. if the choke is tight enough, you don't need to put the arm across the body. as long as the arm is in, it will cut the blood off.
zmanbstyle 2 years ago
wow he got red fast look at his face after 1 sec of pressure dangerous stuff
rlReg 2 years ago
so is this an air choke?
jojojaykay 2 years ago
It is a corotid choke. Really, uke's right arm should be across the chest. It makes it much more effective and requires much less preasure on the head that way (if any).
Chuikov23 2 years ago
blood
zmanbstyle 2 years ago
choke him with ur ding dong
DaGoldC 2 years ago
they're pretty gay
yeonathon 2 years ago
Now that the realities of fighting are so widely distributed, I have stopped martial arts training after many years. So, some of you MMA who are goons and bullies, keep this in mind if you decide to show off your techniques on seemingly defenseless people. This does not apply to the gentle people who practice MMA.
And know this, there is a still a level of techniques and strategies above this that I have yet to see distributed. They are just too dangerous for distribution.
holajim 2 years ago
a triangle choke is not that advanced
12345677789 2 years ago
in judo u r not allowed to pull the head down, jiujitsu yes but not judo
AmiriBuxoro 2 years ago 15
bullshit, yes u can. u can do the basic neck crank kubi hishigi as well.
in triangle choke/sankaku u should pull the neck and not the head down as that is the part being choked.
jf1gd2 2 years ago
Yes you can. As long as it is not a head lock, you are not touching the face, and you are not hyperextending the neck.
Chuikov23 2 years ago
@AmiriBuxoro ye but can you pull your shin down?
f9hunter 1 year ago
@AmiriBuxoro uhh u think u r allowed in judo and that was a crappy triangle he didnt even put his arm across his neck for the blood choke
MegaJoseelias 1 year ago
@AmiriBuxoro true but Judo is not only a Sport, it's also a self-defense form, so on the street, you can pull the head, even by the hair :-)
pcjudosambo 1 year ago
write ' jujitsu versailles (78) ' for a fresh great jujitsu video
popolpopol83 2 years ago
This is at terrible video on teaching the triangle. Watch submissions 101
Rob0boB 2 years ago 2
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eurgh thats gay .... he put the head to the willy hehehe... gay
mycathasbeenstolen 2 years ago
uma bostha
alexandreakiomori 2 years ago
sexy
tinylittlelifeform 2 years ago
he should have the arm thats through the legs on the other side of his neckso the guy cant escape
sloshsk8 2 years ago
Sorry but that is a bad demo. I've never seen anyone experienced teaching sangaku jime like this (me: judo 10yrs, bjj 2yrs, + others)
xpasmreturnsagain 2 years ago
I agree with you. I think most instructors with tell you to keep one hand on the arm so you got the joint lock too. This guy lets both his opponents arms free to do whatever. I think if you got the choke right your legs are definitely strong enough. No need to pull down on the head.
jfthrash 2 years ago
look like a gypsy want to eat my khrum.
kodiakowns 2 years ago 2
This is one of the best chokes, TRIANGLE CHOKE!!! WOO
theraptorman1 2 years ago
not much ...but i m trying to improvise...
by the way its better than the books
Luigi200409 2 years ago
tht's gogoplata 0.0
omfgalbums 2 years ago
no gogoplata is when the sweeping leg is infront on the neck.. also known as a shin choke. This is sankakku jime, or in mma people call it the triangle choke
AaronRubin1 2 years ago
sankakku jime. Yo mama
youngstunna79 2 years ago
does anyone actually learn anything from these one minute videos?
jfthrash 2 years ago
eh, i guess if you watch them over and over you pick something up
MMAfighter70 2 years ago
because that means that you "give up" .. in judo, and i know that cause i went to judo for 2½ years .. it's like rounds in boxing. when your in a fight in judo you smack your hand in the ground about 3 times when you think your opponent has overpowered you. and then a new round can begin :).. i hope that was an answer to your question Flipsykid :D
shakar92 3 years ago
why does the guy in blue just smack him with the arm he uses to submit
FlipsyKid 3 years ago
i meant why "doesnt" not "does" my bad
FlipsyKid 3 years ago
because it is so painful
wrist65 2 years ago
no because it's judo you can push some1 that why it means "Gentle Way"
yammayack1 2 years ago
yes yes i agree with crouchtrac, i won the national championship for england 16 and under and his legs are postioned wrongly. i would beat this guy
joebettsmate 3 years ago
very very bad technique shown there the right leg is way to low
crouchtrac 3 years ago
Minoru FTW!!!!!
KensaiVaizard 3 years ago
common i know 7 year old kids that do this technique better that him.
evolution654 3 years ago
i agree
yotomek 3 years ago
advanced?, are we watching the same video?
Spirithealerzz 3 years ago
dont mean to be a critic but i consider it constructive more than "picking" to secure a triangle you must bring your leg ontop of the shoulder, scoot your hips in the same direction as you bring the persons arm accross thier throat and secure your ankle being your knee, in your demonstration, nothing is restricting the front of the throat because you left his arm behind.
chrismcneilmma 3 years ago
Are they new or something
daMob2 3 years ago
this is the triangle choke
edmun09 3 years ago
I have never done that move but when i saw him do it i knew he was doing it wrong.
rushrox777 3 years ago
wow. tht is very advanced. ))) LOL
marasergo68 3 years ago
you mustn't break your opponents neck in judo.
MasterPetar 3 years ago
no homo
Ryanphotog 3 years ago
im doing judo and i have never see a guard there, this is jiu-jitsu
gabber800 3 years ago
advance judo , it`s basic jiujitsu?
politeista12 3 years ago
garbage
rdevaraj 3 years ago 2
lmao fakest tap ever.
the whole triangle is wrong. setup no good, finish no good.
vanity81 3 years ago 8
yeah, expert village is a joke. I'm a Judoka and this is the worst triangle I have ever seen
azninvasion87 3 years ago
They suck for guitar lessons as well.
Polytes1 3 years ago
... its actually meant for beginners even though its an advance technique
Shadowmov3r 3 years ago
What I meant was that I think this is a horrible execution of the "triangle choke," or Sankaku Jime. I'm a Sankyu in Judo, but the vast majority of my newaza comes from my cross training in BJJ. There are so many variations of the triangle choke setup/execution that I've learned, and while I'm not sure if this is the "proper" way to do it according to Kodokan Judo, I know it's one of the poorest in quality that I've seen in a LONG time.
azninvasion87 3 years ago
no, this is most definitely not the 'proper' way to do it. if you need to grab the head at all (actually illegal in judo competition anyway) then the choke is not correct. grabbing the head is NOT necessary if you do the technique correctly. admittedly my technique leaves something to be desired, but i can point out a number of *very basic* problems in this video that should not be taught.
sheean42 3 years ago
I wasn't aware you couldn't grab the head in judo competition... I actually asked my instructor if I could use a can opener to escape from a triangle in newaza, and he said it was perfectly legal, as long as you pulled the head straight downward in line with the spine.
azninvasion87 3 years ago
i did a can opener in a competition and they reset position.
arthomasvt 3 years ago
thats jiu-jitsu.... its a triangle choke...
and the armbar that comes with that is secondary.....
if the opponent postures up... and you cannot submit him with the choke... then you can use the arm to submit....
but the opponent's right arm should be pulled across your body so his bicep is in front of his own chin.
kempa777 3 years ago
i always pull the arm to the other side...
imdetail 3 years ago
shouldn't you push yourself over to the side a bit?
jackcustow 3 years ago