Ayn Rand was a racist hypocrite and corporatist crony. However, I support Ron Paul and his son, Rand, 100% of the way. They are two of the most compassionate and intelligent politicians in America today.
Ayn Rand's ideas on the government and economy are very dangerous... I guess this means the United States loses either way. We stick with the Federal Reserve? We lose. We go with R. Paul and his gang and end the Reserve, and we head to a fascist state... Man, we lose either way. I'm moving to Greenland, or Guernsey... time to get out of this country and ike out a living elsewhere.
How in the hell does ending the Federal Reserve result in a Fascist state? We've done fine without controlling the supply of money before. Every Recession/depression we've ever had was a direct result of the government in one way or another lowering interest rates and increasing the money supply.
@EliteKiller07 Well, actually the Federal Reserve is NOT an arm of the government. It's Board is appointed by government, but the FR Board acts completely autonomously... they are private individuals. The Fed is not accountable to the government for anything, and they don't require the government's permission to adjust interest rates... Simply put, private hands (with a globalist agenda = The Fed) were responsible for those recessions. The pre-Fed era was government controlled.
"actually the Federal Reserve is NOT an arm of the government"
It IS, it was created by govt & govt can repeal it but they won't because Fed allows for incessant govt-spending thru debt-monetization
"The pre-Fed era was government controlled"
No, it was NOT completely govt-controlled;before Lincoln cartelized system, all banks were private (including two "National Banks"), there were booms & busts due to fractional-banking so we FREE gold-std without fractional-banking
The Fed is NOT an arm of the govt anymore than Bank of America is. Having a govt banking charter doesn't make you a part of the govt.
Cite to me anywhere saying that the Federal Reserve is govt controlled, and I will accept. lol
PRIVATE interests lobbied for the Fed's creation, and exercise their influence through the Fed. The govt doesn't need the Fed to spend money. The Fed is what grows the debt. The Fed charter forces the govt print money on interest against itself. lol
@EliteKiller07 The money supply has always been under the control of the government. When it's in the hands of the government, THEN it belongs to the people. But if the money supply is in the Fed hands (private hands, bankers, etc.) then what we have today is the result. A fascist state would be POSSIBLE, if access to the money supply is not readily available to ALL of America's citizens for all of their business needs.
"money supply has always been under the control of the government. When it's in the hands of the government, THEN it belongs to the people"
Is this a joke? When money is under govt-control, it's controlled by stupid & self-interested politicians & bureaucrats, that's no better than bankers in any way, people suffer either way.
Money is the product of the markets, NOT govt. It EVOLVES out of barter to circumvent the "problem of coincidence of wants"(google it)
(Dont flag his comment as spam, guys.) You are right tj. But the Fed system is a result of greedy int'l bankers lobbying the same fools you mentioned. The money in direct gov't control is a better way, because at least the people can still have a fair influence on it there. Right now, bankers control it, and the charter protects them from our direct influence. Kill the Fed, and you can take the bankers out of direct control over our money supply. Kill the greater of the two evils.
@tjtomkins You say "money is the product of the markets". I say yes AND no to this. The market creates VALUE. The market's determine what something's value is or will be, and this is good. People trade items of VALUE.
MONEY on the other hand is created by government, to introduce a system of uniform trade... a way to MEASURE VALUE. Hence, its to be a benefit to the markets. Markets dont need money, but money makes trade MUCH easier.
DON'T buy into the socialism/communism-peddling videos like "Money Masters", "Web of Debt" & others! Govt creating money is DISASTER, many countries have done it in the past & FAILED because ANYONE with power to create money will keep creating it & thereeby devalue & STEAL people's purchasing-power
Govt is NOT made up of angels, they're self-interested people like private sector so giving them MONOPOLY-power isn't going to help at all.
@tjtomkins I'm not much familiar with Money Masters of Web of Debt, but I looked them up after you mentioned it... You got it backwards. Those videos are not peddling communism. Killing the Fed, is the first step to make sure that the U.S. at least, is NOT drawn into a global "globalist" state, under the control of IGOs like the IMF and World Bank. A global, non-republic system of governance is the end result if we stick to the Fed. Those videos warning people. You are mistakened.
@masterskyrunner Yeah, that's what I was trying to explain to our friend tjtomkins. He's obviously very genuine. The greater evil right now is the Fed, but we can't completely toss the government from the economic system as long as int'l bankers exist. We have our best chance at defending against the globalist agenda, by being alert and aware of what our government is doing, and then acting to intervene when needed.
@jathanator We need to make the "greater good" obsolete. If so, there cannot, by logic, be a greater evil. If we make smaller government, guess what, there will be smaller problems. The greater good is a delusion invented by men to empower themselves among those that feel vulnerable to an invisible or nonexistent evil. Socialism and/or fascism is the product of this delusion
@jathanator We need to make the "greater good" obsolete. If so, there cannot, by logic, be a greater evil. If we make smaller government, guess what, there will be smaller problems. The greater good is a delusion invented by men to empower themselves among those that feel vulnerable to an invisible or nonexistent evil. Socialism and/or fascism is the product of this delusion
@EliteKiller07 Basically, under the Fed, it's globalist/socialist associations make it a threat, but money is generally accessible to all. Without the Fed, the people-through their government-in essence will have the right to determine who and what areas will have money distributed for business, etc. The fascist threat occurs if certain individuals decide to regiment the economy in a way that proves detrimental to certain economic, ethnic, and political groups.
"Every Recession/depression we've ever had was a direct result of the government in one way or another lowering interest rates and increasing the money supply"Well said. We must recognize that govt is no saint compared to private sector & in fact worst since it has "LEGAL" authority to rob & suppress (which pvt sector does NOT have).Boom-bust-cycles & inflation are direct results of overexpansion of credit which many govts have done,including that of 1923-Germany
@DBEtah Ricky becomes Rick. Jimmy becomes Jim. Come on, babe, it happens all the time. And "randy" is "horny" or "lustful" in other words. Rand Paul still admits to his own fascination with Ayn Rand.
I'm sure you know, the same week this piece of work passed through the senate, the call went out that all FEMA camps are to be fully staffed and operational within 72 hours of notice.
Coincidentally the end to the occupation of Iraq...
Now is the time to act to stop this planned genocide of much of the American citizenry. As an American citizen I advocate the elimination of the FEMA camps now. By whatever means necessary these death camps need to be nuetralized. Americans are the new Jews of Nazi Germany and the time for action is now.
With the advent of the new law to declare America as the battleground, and the past Patriot act it is obvious that tactics used in Nazi Germany are being deployed here in America. The existance of FEMA detention camps with rail lines to them and gas lines hooked to buildings is evidence that a plan is being enacted to capture, imprison and kill Americans. The worldwide hatred of Americans will cause many people in other countries to rationalize the deaths as divine justice.
"but he passed the ball unlike John Galt who wanted to shoot everytime."
You quite obviously have never read the book. Or if you attempted it, it was with a closed mind. Your statement doesn't even begin to make sense in relation to Galt, Ayn Rand, or Atlas Shrugged.
This is the first that I have heard that Ayn Rand was a desciple of Dostoevsky. Dostoevsky supported the coup on Czar Nicholas in Saint Petersburg Russia. Allysia Rosenbaum (Ayn Rand) hated the Boshevicks because they usurped her fathers pharmacy and took all their wealth. Rand came to the USA somehow in 1925 and spent her life cowboy capitalism. John Galt would not pass the ball. Michael Jordan, another John Galt, passed the ball and won six championships.
@JayGatsbyOdysseus In Atlas Shrugged, Rand even suggest that there should be a score kept between male and female lovers, Dangny Taggarts and Hank Readen. This is crazy. As if love and sex must be paid for. So, every one is a hooker? Rand writes that "A=A" How do you pronouce "Fake?" How do you pronounce "Far?" Is the "A" the same? No. Even theoretical physicists will explain that on the subatomic level electrons will morph and dissappear. Now, does A=A on the subatomic level. No!
@JayGatsbyOdysseus actually it was Scottie Pippen who passed the ball the Michael Jordan and that's why the Bulls won because Michael Jordan took the most shots!
@mikepiazza Michael Jordan took the shots? Tell that to little Stevie Kerr, tell that to John Paxon, each who hit game winning shots in the playoffs off a pass from Jordan. Pippen's career when down hill after Jordan retired. You need to read my book. In it, I tell why Jordan could have shot everytime but he passed the ball unlike John Galt who wanted to shoot everytime.
The greats (Jordan, Bird, Johnson) always passed the ball when they had to... or even when they didn't have to. Even if you're speaking in terms of self-interest, it's really not in any star player's interest to predictably shoot the ball every time-- crunch time or not. Gotta keep opposing defenses honest.
It's just like how a football team with a superb passing game/QB still has to run it now and then, for the greater good of the team's offense.
Wondering, too, why Mengele & Eichmann look categorically Semitic -- their features are clearly Sephardic ... so many of the presumably pure German top Nazis bore akin facial features; see:
The Untold Story of Nazi Racial Laws and Men of Jewish Descent in the German Military
Bryan Mark Rigg
Lawrence, Kan
University Press of Kansas, 2002;
Go deeper -- Ralph & Mya: Taking Aim Radio archives -- Hidden History of Zionism: far out and substantiated reality checks! Thanks too to Jacob Schiff & crew
Milton Friedman was the full-throttle embodiment of yet another real-life-fairy-man manifestation and as(s)pect of the stalwart Zionist Neo-Con-Artist Snow-Job Blow-Job New World Order perp-prep-team: branding blatant fallacies masquerades -- in league with that other nutter Ayn Ryan ... Ludwig von Mises -- honing pseudo-macho-buffalo-stance street-corner Crony-Capitalism-thuggery: they were foundational to the current realities: GOLD THEFT; SLAVERY: anesthetized annihilation: via Jacob Schiff
@RandomShellAccount Correct, anyone who actually listens to Ayn Rand would absolutely hate Rand and Ron Paul. Ayn Rand thought that religious people were diseased vermin, to be cleansed from society at the earliest available opportunity. Ayn Rand hated welfare- Rand and Ron Paul made their multi-million-dollar fortunes as doctors servicing Medicare patients- Ayn Rand would have them shot. Rand supporters are political infants, they see a couple of nice points but know nothing of context.
@7j8i9m any relation to the rand corrporation think tank only kidding ayn rands theory of diadatic materism is an everyman for himself survival of the fittest
Can't believe how many statists still believe that he's named after Ayn Rand despite all the evidence (including mention by Rand himself) that he is not named after her. Then again statists will try and find any excuse to denounce those who promote liberty.
@pwnurnoobazz Do the statists have some reason for wanting to associate him with Ayn Rand? I think that would be a positive association. I am an Objectivist and I didn't know whether he was named after her or not until this video, though I thought it unlikely based on Ron's comments about Ayn.
@AlexanderLee1 I was actually debating with a statist earlier who kept claiming he was despite the evidence, I personally have nothing against Ayn and enjoy her works, but apparently statists will find any excuse to denounce the liberty movement.
@whadjison yes if it were a pure free market and there wasnt regulations on doctors and they could start small businesses and make house calls etc. I am sure many Doctors in your church or community would help you if you were dying... Study the free market, liberty always prevails and people are generous when there is prosperity. Why would people wanna help you out if you advocate theft by means of government?
Yes. First you have to decentralize the healthcare scam and stabilize the economy by abolishing central banking and cutting off international militarism resulting in the cut off of Income tax over time. Most people would be able to afford their respective healthcare and the ones who can't, we have history of being the most generous people around the world and just a few decades ago, we didn't have the healthcare we have today and people WEREN'T left to die in the streets...
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves hobbits, elves, and wizards.
@PolytheismIsFalse for one thing, How is my question insincere? are you saying I'm not genuinely curious even though I am? it wasn't a rhetorical question, I want answers! Secondly where and how is Social Darwinism brought up in this vid we are commenting on? He noted he was a fan of Ayn rand but that doesn't make him a rigid Objectivist, because he also said that he was a fan of Dostoevsky, a man who was far from a Social Darwinist. would you say Mr Rand is an existentialist as well? ~Love~
@Christopher ayn rand was talking about putting yourself first. BY PUTTING YOURSELF FIRST, YOU END UP HELPING OTHERS.
Think about it! By me creating a business to get rich, I end up hiring employees, paying them wages that they like ( if I didn't pay them wages they didn't like they would leave, thus causing me to go out of business as I don't have any employees to work).
I maybe wrong but I doubt it. Anyone want to challenge me on this one? I think it makes common sense if you think about it.
@sniped101 Greed is an excessive desire for possessions. It is a sin. Just as one may have hunger, it is sinful to eat too much: gluttony. It is good to rest, but if a person doesn't ever work, it is a sin: sloth.
A greedy person doesn't want to pay his workers a living wage, and so they cannot feed their families. A greedy person uses more than he needs for selfish reasons, and so there is not enough for others.
The fact that many people are greedy does not take away its sinful nature.
@sniped101 It might shock you to find that people will work for poverty wages because they are desperate. This has happened time and again. Another variation on this theme is that corporations in the US are greedy and don't want to pay living wages, so they offshore the jobs to China, a communist country where people work for pennies. That is why there are no jobs in the US, and the country is falling apart.
Remember the story about the goose that laid the golden eggs: that is about greed.
@ChristopherMarlowe And thank god they do ship the jobs to another country because the prices would be 100 times higher if they paid minimum wage here then giving pennies to those people in the other country.
Corporations can't be greedy. People are greedy.
By hiring those chinese workers, you are supporting more people then you would be able to support in the US. If anything, the people who make up a corporation are giving people a LIVING WAGE.
@ChristopherMarlowe Yeah, and you work for a person for free right? If you get money, you are greedy.
Who are you to be this high and mighty fool who is greedy also. I hope you understand that you make no sense at all. businesses are greedy, your mom and dad is greedy. Even you are greedy, so sTFU
@sniped101 I don't think you understand what "greedy" means. Maybe English is your second language, and that would explain also why you don't know that it is very rude to say stfu to complete strangers.
Learned people understand that there is said to be 7 virtues; and 7 deadly sins: sloth, gluttony, greed, wrath, lust, envy and pride.
Greed does not mean that a person wants to be paid for his work. Greed is wanting without satiety. Greed is the EXCESSIVE desire for wealth and possessions.
"Journals of Ayn Rand is a book derived from the private journals of novelist and philosopher Ayn Rand, and published in 1997, 15 years after her death. It was edited by David Harriman with the approval of Rand's estate."
Not sure, but that doesn't sound like the Ayn Rand I know. Rand advocated logical selfishness: It's illogical and criminal for a man to kidnap and mutilate a young girl. That's an act of emotional and seriously disturbed psychological behavior.
@ChristopherMarlowe By the way, greed is subjective by definition. Religious conservatives who condemn greed also believe in moral absolutism. If your source for the condemnation of greed is religion, how do you account for this contradiction?
The shorthand is, of course, greed is not a "sin." Greed is natural because it stems from self-interest, self-preservation - species have adapted this quality over time in order to survive longer than their genetic rivals.
It is CRIMINAL to compare ayn rand's drivel to two of the greatest literary works of all time. Objectivism aside, atlas shrugged as a work of fiction was DREADFUL.
@BOMangles Last time I checked we're all free. And whose version of the Costitution? Rand? I don't think he was around when the Constutional Convention took place to know what the founding fathers really were thinking. You can't even get 9 Supreme Court Justices to agree on what the Constitution says. But I guess while Rand was doing clinicals he was studying the founding fathers and knows the truth.
@ezmoney5150 The founding fathers had the exact same problems of today. Perhaps they were a bit more intelligent, and had way lower expectations, but the arguements are carbon copies.
A FAN OF AYN RAND ! You have got to be joking mate...Try and get your hands on the new documentary by Adam Curtis called All Watched Over By The Machines Of Loving Grace Part 1...Its on Youtube. Part 2 is also there and part 3 will be uploaded soon. Also on Google video...A FAN OF AYN RAND ! One of her disciples is ALAN GREENSPAN and YOU'RE father blames directly ( US Federal Banking Cartel ) for getting America into the state that is is into today. He's always on TV, radio, web telling us so.G.
is this a serious comment? Did you pay attention to anything Greenspan did at the Fed? Cutting interest rates to create short terms economic growth is antithetical to the free market ideas espoused by Ayn Rand and other free market economists.
Driving a car is a form of big government. They flood us with regulations, ie) dictate how fast we drive. paint lines all over the road. set mandatory speed limits. traffic lights. driver license requirements.
In a free society these barriers should be removed and people able drive how they feel. Rural India is a great example of free market driving. No lines, speed limits, cross walks, or license requirements.
Yeah, maybe a few goats and people get hit, but thats the cost of freedom.
I don't want to argue or make a point here; I just have an honest question. What does Rand Paul say about religion? Ayn Rand was hostile to religion, yet Paul says she turned him on to Dostoevsky, who, among other things, wrote that without God everything is permitted.
Shhyeeeeeeeeeeah right. Your lying sack of dad preaches Ayn Rand, and you want us to think it's just random coincidence that you nicknamed yourself after her.
@LordSnow69 Actually he takes the good, and discards the bad. Ayn Rand held many beliefs that are quite contrary to Dr. Paul's. Please do a little bit of research into the matter before contributing to this propaganda.
@bane349 Ayn Rand's philosophy of Objectivism is completely contrary to Ron Paul's claimed belief in Christ. That's a pretty major chunk to leave out don't you think?
@LordSnow69 Do you think that the bad parts left out should be more important than the adopted good parts? (we both know better than that I think)
We will never agree with anyone on every single issue (and very seldomly concerning religious matters). However, that doesn't mean that the truth should be denied, even when presented by ill company.
There's no such thing as a free market. It's pretty obvious if you think about it: armed coercion backs the security of all contracts. The "civil state" seeks to render ambiguous the relationship between those who determine the nature and content of contracts (the legislature, the courts) and those who en-FORCE them (the police, the military). In reality, the two are always imbedded with one another. And if it's not downright physical coercion, its the coercion of want that bids us "choose".
You see what you've done, people? The childish conservative penchant for spitting the word "socialism" at everyone one disagrees with has this poor girl so confused that she's calling Ayn Rand a socialist. This black and white, good and evil, all or nothing, one way or the other, no two ways about it manner of categorizing everyone and everything is nonsense. Harmful nonsense.
@Philomath1974 the conservative penchant for calling everyone a socialist? the only people I have ever heard called socialists are the socialists themselves, and by socialists I mean democrats. I call you by what you are. look up the definition in a real encyclopedia and you will see. You are a socialist. Now you wanna know who DOES throw around al kinds of rediculous allegations? ThE SOCIALISTS. always calling conservatives fascists and nazis and racists etc.
@belindabell2 you are 2 for 3. yes, she was an athiest. Yes she was a selfish bitch, and yes she was a collosally ugly woman who lived her entire life in the throes of PMS (oh you didnt say that? well, its true) Unfortunately you were wrong about the socialism. She was an anarcho-capitalist.
@MartinJWillett Do you believe Ayn Rand had epistemological consistency? She mentions epistemology in her arguments against religion, but she doesn't seem to apply it to her political ideology. Is Descartes not owed even a tip of the hat? There are so many irrational assumptions in her arguments.
Of course, Ayn Rand believed in pursuing her own self-interest. She was an admitted sociopath. Sociopaths have no compassion for other people, animals etc. Their brain is defective. The hero in her books was modeled after a serial killer that chopped up a little girl. If this is who you choose to be your hero, that is saying something about you and your morals.
Like the US president/congress that start illegal wars and kill literally millions of innocent soldiers and by-standards. Ayn Rand an sociopath... riiiggghhhhttttt...
@jaspermatty - "sociopath"... talk about oppression! Let's define a disease whose symptom is the failure to subscribe to the belief that one must surrender their own self-interest to the common good. That way, proponents of enforced "altruism" can avoid justifying their position by simply saying "[you disagree with us, so] you are sick." It's another version of "ipse dixit" - "we're right, because we say we are".
@steve66oh - To Rand's critics, I offer two quotes from her philosophical opposite, a hero to the cause of "Social Justice", one who you would presumably sympathize with:
1) "The criticism of religion ends with the doctrine that man is the supreme being for man. It ends, therefore, with the categorical imperative to overthrow all those conditions in which man is an abased, enslaved, abandoned, contemptible being"
2) "We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you."
@steve66oh i love how people rally around marx and when you press them, none of them have read the manifesto. Well I have read it, and that is some fucked up shit! I think Marx may have had a diagnosable mental disorder.
@jaspermatty Can you give me an example of one person on planet earth who ISN'T interested in pursuing their own self interest? No, you can't. Libertarians just admit that it's not a bad thing. Rand's political view is based on Adam-Smith-economics: when individuals pursue their own self-interest without government interference, then prosperity follows. Simple-minded people like you fail to understand the difference between real compassion and government-mandated compassion.
@supercrazylegs1 I can. How about the 1st responders on 9/11 who went into those buildings to try to save OTHER people. According to Rand's philosophy, they should have stayed as far away as possible, that would have been the rational, self-interested thing to do.
@finnemccool and this is why I hate Ayn Rand. she takes a VERY good political ideology; libertarianism and a VERY effective form of economic organization; capitalism. twists them both into something they are not and makes them look evil. I think she is a greater enemy to libertarian ideals and to the fabric of this nation than Karl Marx ever could have been.
@supercrazylegs1 I love how people freak out. Like earlier today this person was like. You like milton friedman!?!?!?!? HE said that GREED was a good thing. And I just laughed and asked, "Have you ever actually read a book of his or seen him speak?" "No" this person said....i just sighed. Anyways, I really do hate Ayn Rand. and unlike libertarians, she really DOES discourage compassion. shes a selfish and unoriginal bitch who stole everything she ever said from other people
@RalucadnelpS aww aren't you adorable little uneducated moochy, well obviously you have no idea what objectivism is. Objectivists are charitable if they see value, they will not give money for the sake of giving money, they will help their fellow neighbor as a provisional sacrifice in the hope that they will repay with the same kindness later. Even those of you who claim that they donate and volunteer just for the sake of it, are full of it, you get social "status" and braging rights u enjoy.
@olexity "Objectivism" is pseudointellectualism, pure and simple. Ms. Rand claims epistemological consistency and "objectivity," then says things like "the naked savages want what you have." That's only one of her many, many, logical failures. The notion that altruism runs amok in modern society is frankly bizarre. Another of her major logical fallacies is absolute ownership and who conveys it. She's a loser.
There is no reason whatsoever to vote for an "objectivist."
That is funny- when he started talking about Rothbard I could just "feel" him about to say that they had a falling out. It just seems to be the pattern.
@eric69132 Why oppose two things which are not inherently opposed - corporations & government. In the US, the former own & run the latter. And why is Cuba the only alternative for someone who doesn't believe that 57 kids per classroom in Emerson Middle School in L.A.. is acceptable for the country with the highest GDP? The two forms of tyranny you've been taught to see as the only models of govt are not the only options available. We live in a corporate welfare state not a "free" market.
@rigatony019 Yes, and let me elaborate on it: Libertarianism is an extremist ideology which exalts a gross oversimplification, namely that "free markets are the be-all and end-all of social relations".
A society in which government played no role in social welfare would characterized by extreme levels of inequality, envy, and hate. It would never work in practice.
@LegalEagleX if i had something to say about either of those people it would have been in my first response to you. instead what i have to say is about you.
i have lots of opinions about ayn rand and just a few about rand paul as im not well as versed on his politics. but again, my response was regards to you.
@LegalEagleX Whereas social welfare governments are characterized by happiness, altruism, income equality and a bountiful flow of material goods. It is incredible the lengths of delusion that ideology can compel. Libertarianism does not operate by force - which is probably the reason you favor a strong State. It simply says that societies are better when intellectual and market forces are free to choose.
Why are opponents of Libertarians always so opposed to free choice?
@smb12321 What constitutes "free" and what constitutes "coercion"? You are too stupid to figure out that a landless peasant who is offered the "free" choice of putting himself & his 9 y/o daughter in a sweatshop working 110 hours a week, 7 days a week sewing t-shirts for Wal-Mart & the Gap for a bare subsistence wage is the same thing as slavery. A slave HAD THE CHOICE of working or not working: he would simply suffer the consequence of being beaten. A sweatshop worker works more & costs less.
@musicalidea First, No one who espouses freedom supports sweat shops and you know it. I don't shop at Wal Mart if at all possible - that's Obama's fave store. What is freedom? Freedom is the ability to walk away from a sweat shot for another job. That is not possible when markets are controlled by the State.
Sweat shots have about as much to do with the right to choose as beach campfires do with global warming. (nothing). The last thing one associates with sweat shoos is free choice.
@maggotou812 His father would make a much better candidate, but Rand - if considered - will be used by the corporatist NeoCons to pull the grassroots populist branch of the Right to support their expansionist oil war machine. It's the same trick as Democrats used on their progressive base by dangling a front-man shouting "change you can believe in" in front of their deluded faces, when in reality he was to the right of Reagan. GOP & DNC are two sides of plutocracy. Don't get hoodwinked.
@musicalidea hey! you look like a democrat whos actually not retarded! Incredible, its a miracle!! I think you are wrong though. Hes a better candidate than his father. his father has no charisma and no ability to lead. Regardless I think that if the NWO folks dont get someone in office they can maniuplate then they will just assassinate him anyways. They have done it before, They did it with JFK when he wanted to end the Fed, and they tried it with Reagan.
@Porojukaha I'm not a Democrat: they are just the smiling side of Wall St's 2 parties. They use populist images & rhetoric to push the same plutocratic agenda as the corporate mercenary snakes in the GOP. The GOP & the DNC have almost identical positions on: 1) "Free" Trade, 2) Oil Imperialism via endless war, 3) tax policy, 4) financial reg. Even their paltry vision of "welfare" is very close to many centrists in the GOP. I now vote Green: it's better than handing a vote to the Oligopoly.
@musicalidea awww. Im sad. your just smart because you are a libertarian. Damnit. My quest for an intelligent democrat(or republican for that matter) continues. Are we libertarians really the only sane people in this country?
@Porojukaha I'm not a Libertarian - I lean more towards sydicalism, if anything... a far cry from a Libertarian. However, I do think there are a number of very thoughtful Libertarian thinkers espousing eloquent criticisms of the oligopoly running the US and its war and debt machines.
Ron Paul is a fake libertarian. One cannot believe in an all powerful god and still be a libertarian. The whole concept of libertarianism fails if there is an all powerful puppet master in the sky! Here's a few oxymoron: Conservative libertarian! Conservative homosexual! Black republican! Republican libertarian! Those words should not go with each other. Every time I see people in one of these categories, I feel disgusted!
no shit you're a big fan, anybody who can read above an eighth grade level thinks you're probably named after the woman who laid out every single political view libertarians hold today,
@ethanzpb91 Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he very clearly explain that his name is Randall and that his wife shortened it to Rand ?. Not trying to pick an argument here, but did you WATCH this video ?.
Ayn Rand was a racist hypocrite and corporatist crony. However, I support Ron Paul and his son, Rand, 100% of the way. They are two of the most compassionate and intelligent politicians in America today.
CuriousGeorgeMonkey9 4 days ago
You pauls can talk about anything and keep me wanting more.
YourAvonJanet 5 days ago
Ayn Rand's ideas on the government and economy are very dangerous... I guess this means the United States loses either way. We stick with the Federal Reserve? We lose. We go with R. Paul and his gang and end the Reserve, and we head to a fascist state... Man, we lose either way. I'm moving to Greenland, or Guernsey... time to get out of this country and ike out a living elsewhere.
jathanator 5 days ago
@jathanator
How in the hell does ending the Federal Reserve result in a Fascist state? We've done fine without controlling the supply of money before. Every Recession/depression we've ever had was a direct result of the government in one way or another lowering interest rates and increasing the money supply.
EliteKiller07 4 days ago
@EliteKiller07 Well, actually the Federal Reserve is NOT an arm of the government. It's Board is appointed by government, but the FR Board acts completely autonomously... they are private individuals. The Fed is not accountable to the government for anything, and they don't require the government's permission to adjust interest rates... Simply put, private hands (with a globalist agenda = The Fed) were responsible for those recessions. The pre-Fed era was government controlled.
jathanator 3 days ago
@jathanator
"actually the Federal Reserve is NOT an arm of the government"
It IS, it was created by govt & govt can repeal it but they won't because Fed allows for incessant govt-spending thru debt-monetization
"The pre-Fed era was government controlled"
No, it was NOT completely govt-controlled;before Lincoln cartelized system, all banks were private (including two "National Banks"), there were booms & busts due to fractional-banking so we FREE gold-std without fractional-banking
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jathanator 21 hours ago
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The Fed is NOT an arm of the govt anymore than Bank of America is. Having a govt banking charter doesn't make you a part of the govt.
Cite to me anywhere saying that the Federal Reserve is govt controlled, and I will accept. lol
PRIVATE interests lobbied for the Fed's creation, and exercise their influence through the Fed. The govt doesn't need the Fed to spend money. The Fed is what grows the debt. The Fed charter forces the govt print money on interest against itself. lol
jathanator 21 hours ago
@EliteKiller07 The money supply has always been under the control of the government. When it's in the hands of the government, THEN it belongs to the people. But if the money supply is in the Fed hands (private hands, bankers, etc.) then what we have today is the result. A fascist state would be POSSIBLE, if access to the money supply is not readily available to ALL of America's citizens for all of their business needs.
jathanator 3 days ago
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@jathanator
"money supply has always been under the control of the government. When it's in the hands of the government, THEN it belongs to the people"
Is this a joke? When money is under govt-control, it's controlled by stupid & self-interested politicians & bureaucrats, that's no better than bankers in any way, people suffer either way.
Money is the product of the markets, NOT govt. It EVOLVES out of barter to circumvent the "problem of coincidence of wants"(google it)
tjtomkins 3 days ago
(Dont flag his comment as spam, guys.) You are right tj. But the Fed system is a result of greedy int'l bankers lobbying the same fools you mentioned. The money in direct gov't control is a better way, because at least the people can still have a fair influence on it there. Right now, bankers control it, and the charter protects them from our direct influence. Kill the Fed, and you can take the bankers out of direct control over our money supply. Kill the greater of the two evils.
jathanator 21 hours ago
@tjtomkins You say "money is the product of the markets". I say yes AND no to this. The market creates VALUE. The market's determine what something's value is or will be, and this is good. People trade items of VALUE.
MONEY on the other hand is created by government, to introduce a system of uniform trade... a way to MEASURE VALUE. Hence, its to be a benefit to the markets. Markets dont need money, but money makes trade MUCH easier.
jathanator 21 hours ago
@jathanator
DON'T buy into the socialism/communism-peddling videos like "Money Masters", "Web of Debt" & others! Govt creating money is DISASTER, many countries have done it in the past & FAILED because ANYONE with power to create money will keep creating it & thereeby devalue & STEAL people's purchasing-power
Govt is NOT made up of angels, they're self-interested people like private sector so giving them MONOPOLY-power isn't going to help at all.
tjtomkins 3 days ago
@tjtomkins I'm not much familiar with Money Masters of Web of Debt, but I looked them up after you mentioned it... You got it backwards. Those videos are not peddling communism. Killing the Fed, is the first step to make sure that the U.S. at least, is NOT drawn into a global "globalist" state, under the control of IGOs like the IMF and World Bank. A global, non-republic system of governance is the end result if we stick to the Fed. Those videos warning people. You are mistakened.
jathanator 21 hours ago
@jathanator The government is not a friend of the people, but is a "necessary evil" when managed correctly.
masterskyrunner 1 day ago
@masterskyrunner Yeah, that's what I was trying to explain to our friend tjtomkins. He's obviously very genuine. The greater evil right now is the Fed, but we can't completely toss the government from the economic system as long as int'l bankers exist. We have our best chance at defending against the globalist agenda, by being alert and aware of what our government is doing, and then acting to intervene when needed.
Just like with SOPA and PIPA.
Democracy isn't dead yet.
jathanator 21 hours ago
@jathanator We need to make the "greater good" obsolete. If so, there cannot, by logic, be a greater evil. If we make smaller government, guess what, there will be smaller problems. The greater good is a delusion invented by men to empower themselves among those that feel vulnerable to an invisible or nonexistent evil. Socialism and/or fascism is the product of this delusion
masterskyrunner 15 hours ago
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@jathanator We need to make the "greater good" obsolete. If so, there cannot, by logic, be a greater evil. If we make smaller government, guess what, there will be smaller problems. The greater good is a delusion invented by men to empower themselves among those that feel vulnerable to an invisible or nonexistent evil. Socialism and/or fascism is the product of this delusion
masterskyrunner 15 hours ago
@EliteKiller07 Basically, under the Fed, it's globalist/socialist associations make it a threat, but money is generally accessible to all. Without the Fed, the people-through their government-in essence will have the right to determine who and what areas will have money distributed for business, etc. The fascist threat occurs if certain individuals decide to regiment the economy in a way that proves detrimental to certain economic, ethnic, and political groups.
jathanator 3 days ago
@EliteKiller07
"Every Recession/depression we've ever had was a direct result of the government in one way or another lowering interest rates and increasing the money supply"Well said. We must recognize that govt is no saint compared to private sector & in fact worst since it has "LEGAL" authority to rob & suppress (which pvt sector does NOT have).Boom-bust-cycles & inflation are direct results of overexpansion of credit which many govts have done,including that of 1923-Germany
tjtomkins 3 days ago
@captainkegelt He said he SUPPORTS Ayn Rand, not worship. Your a regular fucking lemming aren't ya?
HAHAIMTBOY91 1 week ago
Brothers Karamazov and Crime and Punishment are both free kindle books. Just download the kindle app for your pc,mac,iphone,android device.
paulyd0021 2 weeks ago
I was randy for a time in HS too... :)
RustyIronloins 2 weeks ago
Ayn Rand is a sociopath. He worships a sociopath. Sick.
captainkegelt 2 weeks ago
Little fascist.
karenseattle 3 weeks ago
@karenseattle learn what fascism is... then come back here and appoligize
devinthrash 3 weeks ago 3
Why would anyone take the y off their name for no reason? This sounds like bullshit political spin.
DBEtah 3 weeks ago
@DBEtah Ricky becomes Rick. Jimmy becomes Jim. Come on, babe, it happens all the time. And "randy" is "horny" or "lustful" in other words. Rand Paul still admits to his own fascination with Ayn Rand.
shonangreg 3 weeks ago
Aqua Buddha brought me here.
thereluctantspaceman 1 month ago
@agustason
I'm sure you know, the same week this piece of work passed through the senate, the call went out that all FEMA camps are to be fully staffed and operational within 72 hours of notice.
Coincidentally the end to the occupation of Iraq...
You get the point.
N1k1mon 1 month ago
Ron Paul's son? He's cool with me then.
jjenningsoh 1 month ago 25
This still wont shut the morons up.....unfortunately Rand will end up being just like Ron.....syaing "I told you so" for decades.
MrJoSWilson 1 month ago 15
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Now is the time to act to stop this planned genocide of much of the American citizenry. As an American citizen I advocate the elimination of the FEMA camps now. By whatever means necessary these death camps need to be nuetralized. Americans are the new Jews of Nazi Germany and the time for action is now.
Agustason 1 month ago
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With the advent of the new law to declare America as the battleground, and the past Patriot act it is obvious that tactics used in Nazi Germany are being deployed here in America. The existance of FEMA detention camps with rail lines to them and gas lines hooked to buildings is evidence that a plan is being enacted to capture, imprison and kill Americans. The worldwide hatred of Americans will cause many people in other countries to rationalize the deaths as divine justice.
Agustason 1 month ago
"but he passed the ball unlike John Galt who wanted to shoot everytime."
You quite obviously have never read the book. Or if you attempted it, it was with a closed mind. Your statement doesn't even begin to make sense in relation to Galt, Ayn Rand, or Atlas Shrugged.
Tukarama 2 months ago
Jordan was also paid much more then the others But then again talent should get paid.
mikepiazza 2 months ago
he says Ayn correctly. I love him even more now
frosthazard00 2 months ago
This is the first that I have heard that Ayn Rand was a desciple of Dostoevsky. Dostoevsky supported the coup on Czar Nicholas in Saint Petersburg Russia. Allysia Rosenbaum (Ayn Rand) hated the Boshevicks because they usurped her fathers pharmacy and took all their wealth. Rand came to the USA somehow in 1925 and spent her life cowboy capitalism. John Galt would not pass the ball. Michael Jordan, another John Galt, passed the ball and won six championships.
JayGatsbyOdysseus 3 months ago
@JayGatsbyOdysseus In Atlas Shrugged, Rand even suggest that there should be a score kept between male and female lovers, Dangny Taggarts and Hank Readen. This is crazy. As if love and sex must be paid for. So, every one is a hooker? Rand writes that "A=A" How do you pronouce "Fake?" How do you pronounce "Far?" Is the "A" the same? No. Even theoretical physicists will explain that on the subatomic level electrons will morph and dissappear. Now, does A=A on the subatomic level. No!
JayGatsbyOdysseus 3 months ago
@JayGatsbyOdysseus actually it was Scottie Pippen who passed the ball the Michael Jordan and that's why the Bulls won because Michael Jordan took the most shots!
mikepiazza 2 months ago
@mikepiazza Michael Jordan took the shots? Tell that to little Stevie Kerr, tell that to John Paxon, each who hit game winning shots in the playoffs off a pass from Jordan. Pippen's career when down hill after Jordan retired. You need to read my book. In it, I tell why Jordan could have shot everytime but he passed the ball unlike John Galt who wanted to shoot everytime.
JayGatsbyOdysseus 2 months ago
@JayGatsbyOdysseus
The greats (Jordan, Bird, Johnson) always passed the ball when they had to... or even when they didn't have to. Even if you're speaking in terms of self-interest, it's really not in any star player's interest to predictably shoot the ball every time-- crunch time or not. Gotta keep opposing defenses honest.
It's just like how a football team with a superb passing game/QB still has to run it now and then, for the greater good of the team's offense.
bobshenix 2 months ago
Why is this so confusing to everyone? Ron and Ayn had a baby and it was called Rand Paul...
fknclarky 3 months ago
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RON PAUL 2012
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CarCriticAssessor 3 months ago
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Wondering, too, why Mengele & Eichmann look categorically Semitic -- their features are clearly Sephardic ... so many of the presumably pure German top Nazis bore akin facial features; see:
The Untold Story of Nazi Racial Laws and Men of Jewish Descent in the German Military
Bryan Mark Rigg
Lawrence, Kan
University Press of Kansas, 2002;
Go deeper -- Ralph & Mya: Taking Aim Radio archives -- Hidden History of Zionism: far out and substantiated reality checks! Thanks too to Jacob Schiff & crew
CarCriticAssessor 3 months ago
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Milton Friedman was the full-throttle embodiment of yet another real-life-fairy-man manifestation and as(s)pect of the stalwart Zionist Neo-Con-Artist Snow-Job Blow-Job New World Order perp-prep-team: branding blatant fallacies masquerades -- in league with that other nutter Ayn Ryan ... Ludwig von Mises -- honing pseudo-macho-buffalo-stance street-corner Crony-Capitalism-thuggery: they were foundational to the current realities: GOLD THEFT; SLAVERY: anesthetized annihilation: via Jacob Schiff
CarCriticAssessor 3 months ago
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CarCriticAssessor 3 months ago
Are you related to Ron Paul?
serbwithblade 4 months ago
@serbwithblade Ron is his dad.
TheCaptinLove 4 months ago
Ayn Rand followers usually HATE Ron Paul style Libertarians. Have you seen what the so called "Objectivists" say about us?
RandomShellAccount 4 months ago
@RandomShellAccount Correct, anyone who actually listens to Ayn Rand would absolutely hate Rand and Ron Paul. Ayn Rand thought that religious people were diseased vermin, to be cleansed from society at the earliest available opportunity. Ayn Rand hated welfare- Rand and Ron Paul made their multi-million-dollar fortunes as doctors servicing Medicare patients- Ayn Rand would have them shot. Rand supporters are political infants, they see a couple of nice points but know nothing of context.
7j8i9m 4 months ago
@7j8i9m any relation to the rand corrporation think tank only kidding ayn rands theory of diadatic materism is an everyman for himself survival of the fittest
spacepatrolman 4 months ago
Can't believe how many statists still believe that he's named after Ayn Rand despite all the evidence (including mention by Rand himself) that he is not named after her. Then again statists will try and find any excuse to denounce those who promote liberty.
pwnurnoobazz 4 months ago
@pwnurnoobazz Do the statists have some reason for wanting to associate him with Ayn Rand? I think that would be a positive association. I am an Objectivist and I didn't know whether he was named after her or not until this video, though I thought it unlikely based on Ron's comments about Ayn.
AlexanderLee1 4 months ago
@AlexanderLee1 I was actually debating with a statist earlier who kept claiming he was despite the evidence, I personally have nothing against Ayn and enjoy her works, but apparently statists will find any excuse to denounce the liberty movement.
pwnurnoobazz 4 months ago
@pwnurnoobazz what i don't get is, so what if he was named after her? is he forcing them to chance their names?
r29 4 months ago
@whadjison yes if it were a pure free market and there wasnt regulations on doctors and they could start small businesses and make house calls etc. I am sure many Doctors in your church or community would help you if you were dying... Study the free market, liberty always prevails and people are generous when there is prosperity. Why would people wanna help you out if you advocate theft by means of government?
wmarcus1203 4 months ago
@whadjison
Yes. First you have to decentralize the healthcare scam and stabilize the economy by abolishing central banking and cutting off international militarism resulting in the cut off of Income tax over time. Most people would be able to afford their respective healthcare and the ones who can't, we have history of being the most generous people around the world and just a few decades ago, we didn't have the healthcare we have today and people WEREN'T left to die in the streets...
sdeevG 4 months ago
@PolytheismIsFalse I wish you had pointed that out earlier,babe. well I'll see you around,love.
Ravengaurd6 5 months ago
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves hobbits, elves, and wizards.
bapyou 5 months ago
@bapyou you mean that as a compliment right? you can take that 2 ways.
aqueenowlbee 5 months ago
@bapyou nice.
5150zombie 4 months ago
@bapyou LOL, you genuis.
flupachi 4 months ago
@bapyou Nice copy and pasting skills you have there.
666or999 4 months ago
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@666or999 "Nice copy and pasting skills you have there."
Well thank you. Thank you very much.
"No good composer borrows. He steals." -- Igor Stravinsky
bapyou 4 months ago
@PolytheismIsFalse for one thing, How is my question insincere? are you saying I'm not genuinely curious even though I am? it wasn't a rhetorical question, I want answers! Secondly where and how is Social Darwinism brought up in this vid we are commenting on? He noted he was a fan of Ayn rand but that doesn't make him a rigid Objectivist, because he also said that he was a fan of Dostoevsky, a man who was far from a Social Darwinist. would you say Mr Rand is an existentialist as well? ~Love~
Ravengaurd6 5 months ago
@PolytheismIsFalse deluded in what way? do you have MATERIAL proof to that argument? if so what is it? if not, it's all subjective.
Ravengaurd6 5 months ago
He repeated himself a lot, he said the same thing many times, and he made plenty of statements using different words but the same meaning.
WiggaMachiavelli 6 months ago
@WiggaMachiavelli sue him
deceiver123m 6 months ago
@deceiver123m
I think you misunderstood my comment.
WiggaMachiavelli 6 months ago
google: "ayn rand" and "William Hickman"
greed is not good. greed is a sin. I respect ayn rand the same way I respect a rattlesnake: I keep my distance.
ChristopherMarlowe 7 months ago
@Christopher ayn rand was talking about putting yourself first. BY PUTTING YOURSELF FIRST, YOU END UP HELPING OTHERS.
Think about it! By me creating a business to get rich, I end up hiring employees, paying them wages that they like ( if I didn't pay them wages they didn't like they would leave, thus causing me to go out of business as I don't have any employees to work).
I maybe wrong but I doubt it. Anyone want to challenge me on this one? I think it makes common sense if you think about it.
sniped101 7 months ago
@sniped101 Greed is an excessive desire for possessions. It is a sin. Just as one may have hunger, it is sinful to eat too much: gluttony. It is good to rest, but if a person doesn't ever work, it is a sin: sloth.
A greedy person doesn't want to pay his workers a living wage, and so they cannot feed their families. A greedy person uses more than he needs for selfish reasons, and so there is not enough for others.
The fact that many people are greedy does not take away its sinful nature.
ChristopherMarlowe 6 months ago
@ChristopherMarlowe If I was a greedy person who doesn't want to pay my workers a living wage.. Would they work?
sniped101 6 months ago
@sniped101 It might shock you to find that people will work for poverty wages because they are desperate. This has happened time and again. Another variation on this theme is that corporations in the US are greedy and don't want to pay living wages, so they offshore the jobs to China, a communist country where people work for pennies. That is why there are no jobs in the US, and the country is falling apart.
Remember the story about the goose that laid the golden eggs: that is about greed.
ChristopherMarlowe 6 months ago
@ChristopherMarlowe And thank god they do ship the jobs to another country because the prices would be 100 times higher if they paid minimum wage here then giving pennies to those people in the other country.
Corporations can't be greedy. People are greedy.
By hiring those chinese workers, you are supporting more people then you would be able to support in the US. If anything, the people who make up a corporation are giving people a LIVING WAGE.
sniped101 6 months ago
@ChristopherMarlowe Yeah, and you work for a person for free right? If you get money, you are greedy.
Who are you to be this high and mighty fool who is greedy also. I hope you understand that you make no sense at all. businesses are greedy, your mom and dad is greedy. Even you are greedy, so sTFU
sniped101 7 months ago
@sniped101 I don't think you understand what "greedy" means. Maybe English is your second language, and that would explain also why you don't know that it is very rude to say stfu to complete strangers.
Learned people understand that there is said to be 7 virtues; and 7 deadly sins: sloth, gluttony, greed, wrath, lust, envy and pride.
Greed does not mean that a person wants to be paid for his work. Greed is wanting without satiety. Greed is the EXCESSIVE desire for wealth and possessions.
ChristopherMarlowe 6 months ago
@ChristopherMarlowe
"Journals of Ayn Rand is a book derived from the private journals of novelist and philosopher Ayn Rand, and published in 1997, 15 years after her death. It was edited by David Harriman with the approval of Rand's estate."
Not sure, but that doesn't sound like the Ayn Rand I know. Rand advocated logical selfishness: It's illogical and criminal for a man to kidnap and mutilate a young girl. That's an act of emotional and seriously disturbed psychological behavior.
VotePaineJefferson 6 months ago
@ChristopherMarlowe By the way, greed is subjective by definition. Religious conservatives who condemn greed also believe in moral absolutism. If your source for the condemnation of greed is religion, how do you account for this contradiction?
The shorthand is, of course, greed is not a "sin." Greed is natural because it stems from self-interest, self-preservation - species have adapted this quality over time in order to survive longer than their genetic rivals.
VotePaineJefferson 6 months ago
AYN RAND=ZIONIST JEW
HUMANSAREBENEATHME 7 months ago
It is CRIMINAL to compare ayn rand's drivel to two of the greatest literary works of all time. Objectivism aside, atlas shrugged as a work of fiction was DREADFUL.
marktrenkle 7 months ago
Im a fan of Christopher Hitchens it doesnt mean I agree with what he says
RonPaulOrDie 7 months ago
"Fan of Ayn Rand"? Thats very bad news, means he's a fan of "rational EGOISM"...
bananrakvatten 7 months ago
@bananrakvatten rational is the operative word not egoism. we all have egoism most just lack rationale
lordpoee 2 months ago
@BOMangles Last time I checked we're all free. And whose version of the Costitution? Rand? I don't think he was around when the Constutional Convention took place to know what the founding fathers really were thinking. You can't even get 9 Supreme Court Justices to agree on what the Constitution says. But I guess while Rand was doing clinicals he was studying the founding fathers and knows the truth.
ezmoney5150 7 months ago
@ezmoney5150 The founding fathers had the exact same problems of today. Perhaps they were a bit more intelligent, and had way lower expectations, but the arguements are carbon copies.
TumisHumis 7 months ago
Sucks for Kentucky. They're stuck with this goof for 6 years.
ezmoney5150 7 months ago
@ezmoney5150 Yeah god forbid we all get stuck with a senator who believes in freedom and the constitution.
BOMangles 7 months ago
Rand Paul says, " i am a big fan of Ayn Rand" And goes on to say, "I think my father may have met her onetime but didn't known her closely".
kawasafs1e 7 months ago
@kawasafs1e what is your point?
thekoollemon 7 months ago
A FAN OF AYN RAND ! You have got to be joking mate...Try and get your hands on the new documentary by Adam Curtis called All Watched Over By The Machines Of Loving Grace Part 1...Its on Youtube. Part 2 is also there and part 3 will be uploaded soon. Also on Google video...A FAN OF AYN RAND ! One of her disciples is ALAN GREENSPAN and YOU'RE father blames directly ( US Federal Banking Cartel ) for getting America into the state that is is into today. He's always on TV, radio, web telling us so.G.
TheGmcFilms 8 months ago
@TheGmcFilms
is this a serious comment? Did you pay attention to anything Greenspan did at the Fed? Cutting interest rates to create short terms economic growth is antithetical to the free market ideas espoused by Ayn Rand and other free market economists.
njssmbkd4 7 months ago
Driving a car is a form of big government. They flood us with regulations, ie) dictate how fast we drive. paint lines all over the road. set mandatory speed limits. traffic lights. driver license requirements.
In a free society these barriers should be removed and people able drive how they feel. Rural India is a great example of free market driving. No lines, speed limits, cross walks, or license requirements.
Yeah, maybe a few goats and people get hit, but thats the cost of freedom.
teapartyxpress 8 months ago
I've given up on Ayn Rand. See accepted Medicare and Social Security.
teapartyxpress 8 months ago
I don't want to argue or make a point here; I just have an honest question. What does Rand Paul say about religion? Ayn Rand was hostile to religion, yet Paul says she turned him on to Dostoevsky, who, among other things, wrote that without God everything is permitted.
BrianMChampion 8 months ago
Shhyeeeeeeeeeeah right. Your lying sack of dad preaches Ayn Rand, and you want us to think it's just random coincidence that you nicknamed yourself after her.
LordSnow69 8 months ago
@LordSnow69 Actually he takes the good, and discards the bad. Ayn Rand held many beliefs that are quite contrary to Dr. Paul's. Please do a little bit of research into the matter before contributing to this propaganda.
RON PAUL 2012!
bane349 8 months ago 33
@bane349 Ayn Rand's philosophy of Objectivism is completely contrary to Ron Paul's claimed belief in Christ. That's a pretty major chunk to leave out don't you think?
LordSnow69 8 months ago
@LordSnow69 Do you think that the bad parts left out should be more important than the adopted good parts? (we both know better than that I think)
We will never agree with anyone on every single issue (and very seldomly concerning religious matters). However, that doesn't mean that the truth should be denied, even when presented by ill company.
Agreed?
bane349 8 months ago
@bane349 --you should do some research on the racist, atheist hero of rand paul, murray rothbard ---
hedonismtwist 1 month ago
Objectivism is cute at first, but after a while the joke gets old.
ledawg1138 8 months ago
There's no such thing as a free market. It's pretty obvious if you think about it: armed coercion backs the security of all contracts. The "civil state" seeks to render ambiguous the relationship between those who determine the nature and content of contracts (the legislature, the courts) and those who en-FORCE them (the police, the military). In reality, the two are always imbedded with one another. And if it's not downright physical coercion, its the coercion of want that bids us "choose".
musicalidea 8 months ago
why is he in hospital scrubs?
topbikeblaster 9 months ago
@topbikeblaster uh......cuz hes a doctor.
Porojukaha 8 months ago
Why is this guy going on and on about Ayn Rand. She was socialist atheist who didn't believe on anyone but herself
belindabell2 9 months ago
@belindabell2 ........ Don't talk about things you don't know.
semiok45 9 months ago
You see what you've done, people? The childish conservative penchant for spitting the word "socialism" at everyone one disagrees with has this poor girl so confused that she's calling Ayn Rand a socialist. This black and white, good and evil, all or nothing, one way or the other, no two ways about it manner of categorizing everyone and everything is nonsense. Harmful nonsense.
Philomath1974 9 months ago
@Philomath1974 the conservative penchant for calling everyone a socialist? the only people I have ever heard called socialists are the socialists themselves, and by socialists I mean democrats. I call you by what you are. look up the definition in a real encyclopedia and you will see. You are a socialist. Now you wanna know who DOES throw around al kinds of rediculous allegations? ThE SOCIALISTS. always calling conservatives fascists and nazis and racists etc.
Porojukaha 8 months ago
@belindabell2 you are 2 for 3. yes, she was an athiest. Yes she was a selfish bitch, and yes she was a collosally ugly woman who lived her entire life in the throes of PMS (oh you didnt say that? well, its true) Unfortunately you were wrong about the socialism. She was an anarcho-capitalist.
Porojukaha 8 months ago
I want my daughters first name to be Bush
cuttlefishgem 9 months ago
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@cuttlefishgem "I want my daughters first name to be Bush"
lol.lol. She's gonna get to high school and discover what you did & not be real happy with you.lol.lol
Tanarus20 8 months ago
Ayn Rand's books are about as valuble as Hitler's Mein Kampf!! IMHO
shilltheshillXXX 9 months ago
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fucking asshole
trekkian88 9 months ago
What a dope. Ayn Rand was a dope.
sleestackgod 9 months ago
@sleestackgod First rate analysis, you should become a professor of political science.
MartinJWillett 9 months ago
@MartinJWillett Do you believe Ayn Rand had epistemological consistency? She mentions epistemology in her arguments against religion, but she doesn't seem to apply it to her political ideology. Is Descartes not owed even a tip of the hat? There are so many irrational assumptions in her arguments.
Philosophically speaking she's an epic fail.
Tanfeliz 8 months ago
Of course, Ayn Rand believed in pursuing her own self-interest. She was an admitted sociopath. Sociopaths have no compassion for other people, animals etc. Their brain is defective. The hero in her books was modeled after a serial killer that chopped up a little girl. If this is who you choose to be your hero, that is saying something about you and your morals.
jaspermatty 9 months ago
@jaspermatty
Like the US president/congress that start illegal wars and kill literally millions of innocent soldiers and by-standards. Ayn Rand an sociopath... riiiggghhhhttttt...
drshlotzkin 9 months ago
@jaspermatty - "sociopath"... talk about oppression! Let's define a disease whose symptom is the failure to subscribe to the belief that one must surrender their own self-interest to the common good. That way, proponents of enforced "altruism" can avoid justifying their position by simply saying "[you disagree with us, so] you are sick." It's another version of "ipse dixit" - "we're right, because we say we are".
steve66oh 9 months ago
@steve66oh - To Rand's critics, I offer two quotes from her philosophical opposite, a hero to the cause of "Social Justice", one who you would presumably sympathize with:
1) "The criticism of religion ends with the doctrine that man is the supreme being for man. It ends, therefore, with the categorical imperative to overthrow all those conditions in which man is an abased, enslaved, abandoned, contemptible being"
2) "We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you."
-Karl Marx
steve66oh 9 months ago
@steve66oh i love how people rally around marx and when you press them, none of them have read the manifesto. Well I have read it, and that is some fucked up shit! I think Marx may have had a diagnosable mental disorder.
Porojukaha 8 months ago
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@steve66oh religion has no place in rational society
RalucadnelpS 8 months ago
@jaspermatty Like her or not, she made an impact and brought up some very good points for her case
xtremejohnny69 9 months ago
@jaspermatty Can you give me an example of one person on planet earth who ISN'T interested in pursuing their own self interest? No, you can't. Libertarians just admit that it's not a bad thing. Rand's political view is based on Adam-Smith-economics: when individuals pursue their own self-interest without government interference, then prosperity follows. Simple-minded people like you fail to understand the difference between real compassion and government-mandated compassion.
supercrazylegs1 9 months ago 2
@supercrazylegs1 I can. How about the 1st responders on 9/11 who went into those buildings to try to save OTHER people. According to Rand's philosophy, they should have stayed as far away as possible, that would have been the rational, self-interested thing to do.
finnemccool 9 months ago
@finnemccool Those heroes were pursuing their self interest, which in their case was to be protectors.
terrilian2 9 months ago
@terrilian2 ok
finnemccool 9 months ago
@finnemccool and this is why I hate Ayn Rand. she takes a VERY good political ideology; libertarianism and a VERY effective form of economic organization; capitalism. twists them both into something they are not and makes them look evil. I think she is a greater enemy to libertarian ideals and to the fabric of this nation than Karl Marx ever could have been.
Porojukaha 8 months ago
@Porojukaha I agree
finnemccool 8 months ago
@supercrazylegs1 I love how people freak out. Like earlier today this person was like. You like milton friedman!?!?!?!? HE said that GREED was a good thing. And I just laughed and asked, "Have you ever actually read a book of his or seen him speak?" "No" this person said....i just sighed. Anyways, I really do hate Ayn Rand. and unlike libertarians, she really DOES discourage compassion. shes a selfish and unoriginal bitch who stole everything she ever said from other people
Porojukaha 8 months ago
@supercrazylegs1 everybody who volunteers, donates to charity, or sacrifices their life for a greater good. objectivism is for jerks.
RalucadnelpS 8 months ago
@RalucadnelpS aww aren't you adorable little uneducated moochy, well obviously you have no idea what objectivism is. Objectivists are charitable if they see value, they will not give money for the sake of giving money, they will help their fellow neighbor as a provisional sacrifice in the hope that they will repay with the same kindness later. Even those of you who claim that they donate and volunteer just for the sake of it, are full of it, you get social "status" and braging rights u enjoy.
olexity 8 months ago 7
@olexity "Objectivism" is pseudointellectualism, pure and simple. Ms. Rand claims epistemological consistency and "objectivity," then says things like "the naked savages want what you have." That's only one of her many, many, logical failures. The notion that altruism runs amok in modern society is frankly bizarre. Another of her major logical fallacies is absolute ownership and who conveys it. She's a loser.
There is no reason whatsoever to vote for an "objectivist."
Tanfeliz 8 months ago
@Tanfeliz LOL, dude, i WAS an objectivist til i read your magnificently well put together counter to the philosophy..... LOL...
pureaggression 8 months ago
@pureaggression OK, next I'll explain how playing in traffic is bad!
Tanfeliz 8 months ago
@Tanfeliz u're so right.
mavishill 8 months ago
@RalucadnelpS You completely missed my point.
supercrazylegs1 8 months ago
:O
He knew Rothbard?
Awesome!
AlecTaylor6 9 months ago
I didn't know that she was a fan of Dostoyevsky.
That is funny- when he started talking about Rothbard I could just "feel" him about to say that they had a falling out. It just seems to be the pattern.
pebblelake1 9 months ago
@eric69132 Why oppose two things which are not inherently opposed - corporations & government. In the US, the former own & run the latter. And why is Cuba the only alternative for someone who doesn't believe that 57 kids per classroom in Emerson Middle School in L.A.. is acceptable for the country with the highest GDP? The two forms of tyranny you've been taught to see as the only models of govt are not the only options available. We live in a corporate welfare state not a "free" market.
musicalidea 9 months ago
Ayn Rand: mediocre novelist, crackpot philosopher
Rand Paul: crackpot politician, corporate shill
LegalEagleX 9 months ago
legaleagleX: some idiot with an opinion
rigatony019 9 months ago
@rigatony019 Yes, and let me elaborate on it: Libertarianism is an extremist ideology which exalts a gross oversimplification, namely that "free markets are the be-all and end-all of social relations".
A society in which government played no role in social welfare would characterized by extreme levels of inequality, envy, and hate. It would never work in practice.
LegalEagleX 9 months ago
@LegalEagleX so now youre some idiot with an elaborated opinion.
rigatony019 9 months ago
@rigatony019 interesting that you did not respond with anything related to Ayn Rand or Rand Paul
LegalEagleX 9 months ago
@LegalEagleX if i had something to say about either of those people it would have been in my first response to you. instead what i have to say is about you.
i have lots of opinions about ayn rand and just a few about rand paul as im not well as versed on his politics. but again, my response was regards to you.
rigatony019 9 months ago
@rigatony019 well then go fuck yourself
LegalEagleX 9 months ago
@LegalEagleX Whereas social welfare governments are characterized by happiness, altruism, income equality and a bountiful flow of material goods. It is incredible the lengths of delusion that ideology can compel. Libertarianism does not operate by force - which is probably the reason you favor a strong State. It simply says that societies are better when intellectual and market forces are free to choose.
Why are opponents of Libertarians always so opposed to free choice?
smb12321 9 months ago 2
@smb12321 What constitutes "free" and what constitutes "coercion"? You are too stupid to figure out that a landless peasant who is offered the "free" choice of putting himself & his 9 y/o daughter in a sweatshop working 110 hours a week, 7 days a week sewing t-shirts for Wal-Mart & the Gap for a bare subsistence wage is the same thing as slavery. A slave HAD THE CHOICE of working or not working: he would simply suffer the consequence of being beaten. A sweatshop worker works more & costs less.
musicalidea 8 months ago
@musicalidea First, No one who espouses freedom supports sweat shops and you know it. I don't shop at Wal Mart if at all possible - that's Obama's fave store. What is freedom? Freedom is the ability to walk away from a sweat shot for another job. That is not possible when markets are controlled by the State.
Sweat shots have about as much to do with the right to choose as beach campfires do with global warming. (nothing). The last thing one associates with sweat shoos is free choice.
smb12321 8 months ago
This guy thinks government should get out of the way so those who are born to the purple can screw us all.
johnnyb93 9 months ago
Rand Paul 2012
maggotou812 9 months ago
@maggotou812 His father would make a much better candidate, but Rand - if considered - will be used by the corporatist NeoCons to pull the grassroots populist branch of the Right to support their expansionist oil war machine. It's the same trick as Democrats used on their progressive base by dangling a front-man shouting "change you can believe in" in front of their deluded faces, when in reality he was to the right of Reagan. GOP & DNC are two sides of plutocracy. Don't get hoodwinked.
musicalidea 9 months ago
@musicalidea like they are doing with Trump.I like Allen West.
maggotou812 9 months ago
@musicalidea hey! you look like a democrat whos actually not retarded! Incredible, its a miracle!! I think you are wrong though. Hes a better candidate than his father. his father has no charisma and no ability to lead. Regardless I think that if the NWO folks dont get someone in office they can maniuplate then they will just assassinate him anyways. They have done it before, They did it with JFK when he wanted to end the Fed, and they tried it with Reagan.
Porojukaha 8 months ago
@Porojukaha I'm not a Democrat: they are just the smiling side of Wall St's 2 parties. They use populist images & rhetoric to push the same plutocratic agenda as the corporate mercenary snakes in the GOP. The GOP & the DNC have almost identical positions on: 1) "Free" Trade, 2) Oil Imperialism via endless war, 3) tax policy, 4) financial reg. Even their paltry vision of "welfare" is very close to many centrists in the GOP. I now vote Green: it's better than handing a vote to the Oligopoly.
musicalidea 8 months ago
@musicalidea awww. Im sad. your just smart because you are a libertarian. Damnit. My quest for an intelligent democrat(or republican for that matter) continues. Are we libertarians really the only sane people in this country?
Porojukaha 8 months ago
@Porojukaha I'm not a Libertarian - I lean more towards sydicalism, if anything... a far cry from a Libertarian. However, I do think there are a number of very thoughtful Libertarian thinkers espousing eloquent criticisms of the oligopoly running the US and its war and debt machines.
musicalidea 8 months ago
Corporatist shill.
musicalidea 9 months ago
@musicalidea go to utopia cuba and live if u are a goverment shill.
eric69132 9 months ago
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musicalidea 9 months ago
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Your shirt looks a bit gay.
fnyklr 10 months ago
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sh00008 10 months ago
no shit you're a big fan, anybody who can read above an eighth grade level thinks you're probably named after the woman who laid out every single political view libertarians hold today,
ethanzpb91 10 months ago
@ethanzpb91 Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he very clearly explain that his name is Randall and that his wife shortened it to Rand ?. Not trying to pick an argument here, but did you WATCH this video ?.
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