I love that yellow pantsuit she wore when she met her friend at the restaurant. It's so pretty. Yellow is one of my favorite colors. I'd love to find a pantsuit set like that one.
Louise Fletcher does the best, most creepy female villian. Cuckoo's Nest is one of her most amazing performances....see her in Flowers In The Attic too, AMAZING!
Also, no one else could play Agnes Carpenter other than Nurse Ratchett (Louise Fletcher)...She did come from the "old school", but she took it way beyond the extreme with Karen....
If anyone wants something that resembles the truth, read "little girl blue". And, it was not stage fright that caused her anorexia. She would not have had "the sound" if that were the case. Truth is, Karen wanted every note to be studio quality, and often yelled at the musicians if there was a note off. Karen was a very kind person, but control was what she lived, and because her life was out of control, food was the only thing she though she had control of. again, read "little girl blue".
The train wreck /insanity of the anorexic FAMILY continues...As an anorexic, I remember being under my parents' thumb until 27 years of age. I was engaged at 28 and married at 29.
Agnes Carpenter tried to rip her ADULT millionaire daughter's shirt off. Karen was independent at 18. The family was completely over-the-top ! ! !
A 24-year-old Karen C. says, "You are smothering me. I know you mean well, BUT..." Then Richard Carpenter strolls in on her losing her virginity at 24 or 25.
Why is everyone down on their mom? She was born probably in the 1920s, and she raised her kids the way they did in her generation. No parent is perfect. She showed great concern for Karen and her weight loss -- at least someone did care.
Ego, pride, what a shame, before you call me an ass.... am I telling a lie? The reason I am saying this is so other women don't make the same mistake.
I once read an article where RC said that he didn't believe KC was using Ipecac because constant vomiting could damage her voice. I think she did use the stuff because it said so in her autopsy. Also he needs to realize that although singing may have been her first love,she was Anorexic and that has to do with psyche. Who knows what she was thinking,the disease ravages their minds and destroys their rationale. It is possible that losing weight was more important to her when it came down to it!
regardless of whether it was my mom,bf,bff whatever...I would not be comfortable with someone going through my belongings. We've all had our "laxative"moment,meaning your mom finds your stash of stuff and starts interrogating you. That scene,the moms(Agnes)wig,idk it just creeped me out!
There would be hundreds of days we never would have seen PHOTOS everyday of Karen Carpenter, as she lived a normal life in the Hollywood world. The Paparazzi were not as bad as what it is today....So she could have worn hundreds of different outfits we never will see....
There's a balance. When your child is an adult, yes, be concerned and love the hell out of them but at the same time, they have to make their own choices. Like when a parent has an adult child that is hooked on drugs-you can't make them stop, you can only do so much to help. I do feel bad for the mom but her controlling Karen in trying to make her stop her ED is ironically a big reason Karen did have anorexia.
The mom is just being a good parent okay, what was she supposed to do let her keep losing weight. She is being a good mother dont say she is annoying.
Ugh I really don't know why people have these problems like they are stick fin AND THEY ARE SAYING THEY ARE FAT ITS STUPID. This film was made for that purpose
@lesterclaypool1 Both me and my fifteen years older sister has had anorexia she got help in time, but I am still fighting it every day and no one in my family, ecept my sister and older brother. My grandparents and my parents still tells me to watch those calories and exercise away more than I eat. I sometimes wonder if I developed anorexia because of me wanting to be like my sister. My BMI is now 13 and I canät stop loosing.
I'll let my wife answer this one, kiddo, she's the one with the experience with an ED. Her account name will come up as thegirl44 and Ill have her message you as soon as she gets home, okay?
Actually by Christmas 1974 Karen WAS looking very thin. If you watch her appearance on the Perry Como Christmas Special she is very thin. Summer of 1975 she was down to 80 lbs.
If no one really knew about bulimia back then, then why is Richard talking about the laxatives? How would he have any idea what Karen's doing with those? Better yet, how did Karen know to use them?
The fact that eating disorders where unknown to the general public during Karen's lifetime that does not mean that she as a practicing anorexic would have have not stumbled on to using them in her quest to loose weight and stay thin. In fact its well known that Karne relied on laxatives to maintain her anorexic figure. Both Richard and Agnes believed that she did not make herself vomit due to the damage it could cause to her vocal cords.
fact is in the "Business" karen would have been told of slimming aids, its well documented that even the movie studios their own doctors would give stars pills and potions to keep them slim & speeding their tits off to keep working long hours. Just becuase the Public were unaware those in the business were well aware.
@hipnhappenin Even though eating disorders werent well known back then, they probably still knew what laxatives did and that you could lose weight by taking them
@M0r3Lik3HERthanME She was talking 40 laxatives every day by '74-54, and Epicac to make her throw up. It's a wicked almost incurable mental illness, the MOM was the boss, Dad was a wimp.
Although it wasn't supposed to be funny, I was laughing hysterically the way Richard completely forgot the previous night when he found Karen making out with that creep. I just compared quaaludes to Ambien 10 mg in section 5 of the movie due to the buzz you get, and now I just learned via Karen's/Richard's argument that quaaludes also erased memory as badly as Ambien.
Actually, Karen was always very protective of Richard. None of the girlfriends that he had ever lived up to her standards. Before Randy was Maria Gadzia.. She has gone on record stating that Karen would more offen then not accompany them on dates. And jokingly state.. " Well its just the three of us again..." It used to drive Richard nuts, and finally he and Karen got in to a massive fight over it all. That is what led to Karen looking for and getting her own condo...
Yeah, it is. I mean she was a grown woman and her mother really didn't need to do that, but she was obviously soooo darn thin and it showed too already. Her mother was just obsessively worried about her.
Great movie, but the way Karen was portrayed in this movie was introverted and anti-social. In real life, Karen, despite her insecurities, was always bubbly and outgoing and loved being around people. Still a good cautionary movie though.
i really love this movie but they messed up a little on the time line. Karen didn't really start looking very thin until the end of 75 to 76. In 74 she hired a personal trainer and looked very toned (you can see it in her Japan concerts).
This movie is great but would have been a million times better if they paid attention to minor details.
In actuality at the end of this clip her ribs weren't that apparent. U could see then yes, but if you're a thin person that's normal.
May not be for the 'average' size 12 american woman but for the 'normal' low single digit sized women that is not what most now a days call emaciated.
my brother always yells "Get off my sister!" when he sees any guys kissing me. Never mind the fact that I'm engaged now and have already been married once lol
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She is not that skinny! This is what bugs me out in those movies, maybe it's just because in the 70' being this thin wasn't normal... Well what's good about this movie is that the action is coming slowly, not all at the same time at hte beggining of it. It makes it more reallistic!
1:26 what was she eating??
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@BellaSilvery I think its a snow pea... At least that is what I always thought it was... Just a guess...
carpentersfan2010 2 weeks ago
@BellaSilvery - parsley
greentara313 2 weeks ago
@BellaSilvery - I meant celery. XD
greentara313 2 weeks ago
Lucy: I love this color!
what color? the walls are white! hahaha
trodledunf 1 month ago
@trodledunf It's EGGSHELL! ;-)
arfies 3 weeks ago
I love that yellow pantsuit she wore when she met her friend at the restaurant. It's so pretty. Yellow is one of my favorite colors. I'd love to find a pantsuit set like that one.
JoLeana76 2 months ago
i wish my mom cared that much about me.. =\
luckybenji0 2 months ago
awww there from connecticut thats were ii live :)
9redflys 3 months ago
Louise Fletcher does the best, most creepy female villian. Cuckoo's Nest is one of her most amazing performances....see her in Flowers In The Attic too, AMAZING!
sraphael 4 months ago 2
One more thing...the girl who played Itchie Ramon should have been played by an Asian woman....so transparent....
thegenie1 5 months ago
@thegenie1 Itchie Ramone isn't in this movie. "Lucy Newman" is closest to Frenda Leffler.
arfies 4 months ago in playlist Karen Carpenter Story
Also, no one else could play Agnes Carpenter other than Nurse Ratchett (Louise Fletcher)...She did come from the "old school", but she took it way beyond the extreme with Karen....
thegenie1 5 months ago
If anyone wants something that resembles the truth, read "little girl blue". And, it was not stage fright that caused her anorexia. She would not have had "the sound" if that were the case. Truth is, Karen wanted every note to be studio quality, and often yelled at the musicians if there was a note off. Karen was a very kind person, but control was what she lived, and because her life was out of control, food was the only thing she though she had control of. again, read "little girl blue".
thegenie1 5 months ago
@thegenie1 that sounds like my life
scans4uni 4 months ago
i love how she goes in the mirror n she only picks at her skin like theres no fliping fat there
ananmia101 6 months ago
The train wreck /insanity of the anorexic FAMILY continues...As an anorexic, I remember being under my parents' thumb until 27 years of age. I was engaged at 28 and married at 29.
Agnes Carpenter tried to rip her ADULT millionaire daughter's shirt off. Karen was independent at 18. The family was completely over-the-top ! ! !
A 24-year-old Karen C. says, "You are smothering me. I know you mean well, BUT..." Then Richard Carpenter strolls in on her losing her virginity at 24 or 25.
mredominik 6 months ago
I actually agree with the mom. If your daughter's anorexic, that's serious! Obviously, it is--she died!
BarrowAK99723 6 months ago
Why is everyone down on their mom? She was born probably in the 1920s, and she raised her kids the way they did in her generation. No parent is perfect. She showed great concern for Karen and her weight loss -- at least someone did care.
DickieAnginson 6 months ago 3
4:22 "I don't care what Mom says. You have to get off those quaaludes..."
sluggoII 7 months ago
this reminds me of goodfellas
1111arthas 8 months ago
Ego, pride, what a shame, before you call me an ass.... am I telling a lie? The reason I am saying this is so other women don't make the same mistake.
rubshop30 9 months ago
was she in love with Richard?
valkour22 10 months ago
The mom cares.... that's the best thing you can ever have... maybe someday you'll understand when YOU become a mom!
glennfong78 10 months ago 4
2:45 (wah wah wah...) FAIL!
arfies 10 months ago
I once read an article where RC said that he didn't believe KC was using Ipecac because constant vomiting could damage her voice. I think she did use the stuff because it said so in her autopsy. Also he needs to realize that although singing may have been her first love,she was Anorexic and that has to do with psyche. Who knows what she was thinking,the disease ravages their minds and destroys their rationale. It is possible that losing weight was more important to her when it came down to it!
jokester859 11 months ago
regardless of whether it was my mom,bf,bff whatever...I would not be comfortable with someone going through my belongings. We've all had our "laxative"moment,meaning your mom finds your stash of stuff and starts interrogating you. That scene,the moms(Agnes)wig,idk it just creeped me out!
jokester859 11 months ago
she looks like emma watson. (hermione granger.)
showersinger547 1 year ago 8
@showersinger547 that's true! wow, i realised that when you said it :D
MsAbcabc123 1 year ago
@showersinger547 NURSE KRATCHIT ?
MyREDTAIL 1 year ago
@MyREDTAIL The mom was Nurse Kratchit.
showersinger547 1 year ago 2
There would be hundreds of days we never would have seen PHOTOS everyday of Karen Carpenter, as she lived a normal life in the Hollywood world. The Paparazzi were not as bad as what it is today....So she could have worn hundreds of different outfits we never will see....
cd72 1 year ago
Did she really wear this hairstyle with the headband? I think it's pretty, but I've never seen any pictures or videos where she had this hairstye.
stitchesful 1 year ago
There's a balance. When your child is an adult, yes, be concerned and love the hell out of them but at the same time, they have to make their own choices. Like when a parent has an adult child that is hooked on drugs-you can't make them stop, you can only do so much to help. I do feel bad for the mom but her controlling Karen in trying to make her stop her ED is ironically a big reason Karen did have anorexia.
yamagoof 1 year ago
If I had a daughter that was wasting away like that, I'd be terrified too.
DisneyFreak1937 1 year ago 7
The mom is just being a good parent okay, what was she supposed to do let her keep losing weight. She is being a good mother dont say she is annoying.
jamielee102 1 year ago 6
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@jamielee102 Yes you are right. All parents are very outspoken and over-protective with their kids at any age.
JeniBurton213 1 year ago
Ugh I really don't know why people have these problems like they are stick fin AND THEY ARE SAYING THEY ARE FAT ITS STUPID. This film was made for that purpose
, Still no ones listened.
hayamatsuka 1 year ago
She was lucky...except for the dying part she stuck to her diet
iwannabthin10 1 year ago
Everyone puts the hate on Mama C but for goodness sakes someone needed to confront her on those pills.
rubix110 1 year ago
I practically like the mother. Its normal for the mother to be very concern to her child.
saruto3672 1 year ago
@saruto3672 See the bbc documentary, you won't like MOM so much.
locheelad2 1 year ago
My mom is ALOT like Karen's mom. Very controling and always in my business! Maybe thats the reason I also have an eating problem..hmmm....
M0r3Lik3HERthanME 1 year ago 3
@M0r3Lik3HERthanME
My wife, who also had an ED, now lives 2000 miles away from her mother for good reason. She's been healthy and happy ever since.
lesterclaypool1 1 year ago 3
@lesterclaypool1 Both me and my fifteen years older sister has had anorexia she got help in time, but I am still fighting it every day and no one in my family, ecept my sister and older brother. My grandparents and my parents still tells me to watch those calories and exercise away more than I eat. I sometimes wonder if I developed anorexia because of me wanting to be like my sister. My BMI is now 13 and I canät stop loosing.
sumle85 1 year ago
@sumle85
I'll let my wife answer this one, kiddo, she's the one with the experience with an ED. Her account name will come up as thegirl44 and Ill have her message you as soon as she gets home, okay?
lesterclaypool1 1 year ago
Actually by Christmas 1974 Karen WAS looking very thin. If you watch her appearance on the Perry Como Christmas Special she is very thin. Summer of 1975 she was down to 80 lbs.
cd72 1 year ago
The wig is awful.........
InFromTheVoid 1 year ago
haha he wants her "milk and cookies"
brolysmight 2 years ago 4
You name here - Eating Disorder's my homie - is that what it stands for?
MissCharlotteNielsen 2 years ago 3
for milk and cookies HA!
giannaluva65 2 years ago 2
If no one really knew about bulimia back then, then why is Richard talking about the laxatives? How would he have any idea what Karen's doing with those? Better yet, how did Karen know to use them?
hipnhappenin 2 years ago
The fact that eating disorders where unknown to the general public during Karen's lifetime that does not mean that she as a practicing anorexic would have have not stumbled on to using them in her quest to loose weight and stay thin. In fact its well known that Karne relied on laxatives to maintain her anorexic figure. Both Richard and Agnes believed that she did not make herself vomit due to the damage it could cause to her vocal cords.
Carpentersfan2003 2 years ago 4
fact is in the "Business" karen would have been told of slimming aids, its well documented that even the movie studios their own doctors would give stars pills and potions to keep them slim & speeding their tits off to keep working long hours. Just becuase the Public were unaware those in the business were well aware.
tenchgirl 2 years ago 4
Judy Garland was given pills to get thiner in the 1930,s/40,s
Pearlofeire 2 years ago 3
@Pearlofeire I have always thought that Karen Carpenter and Judy Garland were very much alike! They both had very controlling mothers!
maleficentdiva 1 year ago
@hipnhappenin Even though eating disorders werent well known back then, they probably still knew what laxatives did and that you could lose weight by taking them
M0r3Lik3HERthanME 1 year ago
@M0r3Lik3HERthanME She was talking 40 laxatives every day by '74-54, and Epicac to make her throw up. It's a wicked almost incurable mental illness, the MOM was the boss, Dad was a wimp.
locheelad2 1 year ago
Although it wasn't supposed to be funny, I was laughing hysterically the way Richard completely forgot the previous night when he found Karen making out with that creep. I just compared quaaludes to Ambien 10 mg in section 5 of the movie due to the buzz you get, and now I just learned via Karen's/Richard's argument that quaaludes also erased memory as badly as Ambien.
MrEvolution513 2 years ago 5
wtf
anemicopheliac 2 years ago
i thought it was so damn funny how the music just cut off at 2:37 when the girl started talking.
Kabman89 2 years ago 4
God, I admire her discipline...
serious22 2 years ago
@serious22 If you mean you admire Karen Carpenter's "discipline" in her dieting and exercise regime, I urge you to seek help.
Sparxe 1 year ago
@serious22 If you mean you admire Karen Carpenter's "discipline" in her dieting and exercise regime, I urge you to seek help.
Sparxe 1 year ago
@serious22 If you mean you admire Karen Carpenter's "discipline" in her dieting and exercise regime, I urge you to seek help.
Sparxe 1 year ago 3
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Just because richard brought someone home Karen turned a bit jealous and nasty and left.
AnthonyUK 2 years ago
Actually, Karen was always very protective of Richard. None of the girlfriends that he had ever lived up to her standards. Before Randy was Maria Gadzia.. She has gone on record stating that Karen would more offen then not accompany them on dates. And jokingly state.. " Well its just the three of us again..." It used to drive Richard nuts, and finally he and Karen got in to a massive fight over it all. That is what led to Karen looking for and getting her own condo...
Carpentersfan2003 2 years ago
eww, that milk and cookies guy is hella creepy.
MissLeigh78 2 years ago
Yeah, it is. I mean she was a grown woman and her mother really didn't need to do that, but she was obviously soooo darn thin and it showed too already. Her mother was just obsessively worried about her.
LeanaHM76 2 years ago 3
OMG "let me see under your shirt"
That's really weird LOL
juliemulie345 2 years ago
She just wanted to see her very dramatic weight lose. Her bones were probably showing already.
LeanaHM76 2 years ago
I know but still, it's odd.
juliemulie345 2 years ago
Wow! Those wall clocks were really the rave gifts of the 70s. We could use a new one like that in my stats class. LOL.
rayva1 2 years ago 4
anyone get teh joke they got one wallclock and then randy gives them another wallclock and Richard has to act all pleased..lol
MoonAharshMistress 2 years ago
Great movie, but the way Karen was portrayed in this movie was introverted and anti-social. In real life, Karen, despite her insecurities, was always bubbly and outgoing and loved being around people. Still a good cautionary movie though.
ssudioTVgirl 2 years ago
Uh if my mom tried to look under my shirt like that I wod be so pissed! Even if people do tell me im under weight thats like an invasion of privacy!
elvisNrebafan4EvA 2 years ago 37
I know! That was wrong...
omshantipeace 2 years ago 4
i would be pissed too!
AVALONFANINVA 2 years ago 5
@elvisNrebafan4EvA she IS WORRIED ABOUT HER DAUGHTER !!
yasminekhayat 9 months ago
i really love this movie but they messed up a little on the time line. Karen didn't really start looking very thin until the end of 75 to 76. In 74 she hired a personal trainer and looked very toned (you can see it in her Japan concerts).
This movie is great but would have been a million times better if they paid attention to minor details.
xonicolenarox 2 years ago
xonicolenarox: Yes. There were also photos of her when she did look very fit.
rayva1 2 years ago
she dont look like Karen
nakluts 3 years ago
I LOVE KAREN THANKS FOR SHARIN LOL
AVALONFANINVA 3 years ago
they used the real recordings from the real karen carpenter
ConnorMichelle 3 years ago 3
In actuality at the end of this clip her ribs weren't that apparent. U could see then yes, but if you're a thin person that's normal.
May not be for the 'average' size 12 american woman but for the 'normal' low single digit sized women that is not what most now a days call emaciated.
Just saying.
omfgplea 3 years ago
I don't remember Karen's hair being that dark. Wasn't her hair more of a medium or light brown shade?
BrunetteLiana76 3 years ago 5
i guess her mom should've let her run her own life. she must be the first person to guide Karen about her diet but instead...
well it seems to me that she's being so over protected in a wrong way...she could show her love to karen in some different way, but not this...
haseilblue 3 years ago 4
Parents do not have to be perfect. Why place blame on her mother for trying.
iraqidolphin 3 years ago 8
The mom annoys me.
I think she needs to cut the umbilical cord.
Lisa13245 3 years ago 52
@Lisa13245 ya so karen could die sooner......
almel777 1 year ago
she is.
nmolnar32 3 years ago 6
my brother always yells "Get off my sister!" when he sees any guys kissing me. Never mind the fact that I'm engaged now and have already been married once lol
BronxBeauty8 3 years ago 8
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She is not that skinny! This is what bugs me out in those movies, maybe it's just because in the 70' being this thin wasn't normal... Well what's good about this movie is that the action is coming slowly, not all at the same time at hte beggining of it. It makes it more reallistic!
Turniptina 3 years ago
The movie is wonderful, but the wigs they use are dreadful! The mother's grey hair and Karen's short bob earlier was dreadful
Tuntenut 3 years ago 4
i love this movie so far!..thanks for uploading.
SexyEyez89 3 years ago 7