@dapodokumentary Did you even watch the brothers video? The Arabs were the first to fight against Islam if it was their culture why would they fight their culture? Arabs were burying their first born daughters alive before Muhammad peace be upon him arrived he was an extraordinary human being placed in the midst of barbaric tribesmen and cut throats. You act as if he lived among boy scouts.
@Truth0meter Mohammed was a product of his environment, if the man was alive today he would be considered evil and immoral, he might have been a bit better than his fellow tribes men back then but never the less was still barbaric by todays standard. Come of the brain washing brother.
@dapodokumentary Actually Islam is the opposite of Arab culture that is why Arabs were the first to fight against it. Being a Westerner you have heard much negative propaganda about Islam while Western atrocities like Hiroshima are played down but no matter what you bring up against Muhammad (sa) it is a product of Western culture. I study Islam from it's sources and if you want to understand Islam go to the sources not the media.
A-Salaamu Alaykum brother. Just one question, what is the supplication you recite before speaking? I forget what it's called. Thank you for your time.
Some believe we are here to worship and serve God. They believe this can only be done through prayer and adherence to the scriptures. What if the sum of each and every living creature's existence serves the almighty in a way the individual cannot fathom? What if life is never ending and esoterically serves an experiential purpose that is above our capacity to comprehend? I see Chaos as evil and Order as good but God is above both. The two work to make his will manifest.
@VoyageIslam : In a world full of different religions, one should respect the rest and carry on with his or her belief . I am calling on humanity to co exist in peace and harmony . I am calling on this blobe to be tolerant and to be just, fair and to have a strong inner conscious . With six billion people around this planet, we can not all agree on the same ideologies and the same paths of life . We need more understanding . In the Qu'Oran " there is no compulsion in religion "....etc. Thanks
Brother, I've come to the conclusion this dialogue is a waste of my time. What I am doing is tantamount to "casting my pearls before swine." May your journey in life lead you to the ultimate truth where a man's attire nor his language are of any consequence. Peace.
@VoyageIslam I leave as I came. Knowing you are just another in a long line of delusional black men inspired by the Autobiography of Malcolm X. Malcolm was wrong about so many things and like you he learned the hard way. From your use of the acronym for Peace I take it you were once schooled in the NOI doctrine. Your debate style of distortion is also a technique they embrace. Your argumentative nature denotes strong feminine influences. You strike me as an extremely shallow individual.
@Badjohn007 You leave still not explaining why you love European clothing. I give you an A+ on the attempted smoke screen and Ad hominem distraction though.
The 3 major monotheistic religions are built upon a LIE. The TORAH or PENTATEUCH promotes the notion of a CHOSEN people based on GENETICS rather than obedience to the Almighty. The prophesies of coming "messengers" pertinent to many ideological deviations of the original false religion opened the door to all existing theological confusion in the world. One LIE gave birth to many more. Every people who embraced the LIE personalized it and now the LIARS are each others' throats. Peace Black Man!
@Badjohn007 I asked you ho does wearing Nikes (a European owned shoe manufacture by KOREANS) and pink European styed shirts make more of a Black man than me? John is also a European name you have btw.
@VoyageIslam Rather than engage the original issue I raised you shift focus. I understand. If you are content pretending to live in the 8th century then I'm happy for you. I am the descendant of slaves. To me attire, mine or yours is not as important as my relationship with God. It appears you have immersed yourself in Arab culture and history which is not necessarily bad but it has nothing to do with serving God. If you talk to God in English will he not know what's in your heart?
@Badjohn007 Why do you have the photo of another man on your profile? Do you hate own photo or just infatuated by his? Allah does no change I do not dress to please you or the Western society you promote. When another Muslim looks at me they know who I am, I know who I am and Allah knows who I am. On the other hand ONLY ALLAH knows who you are. I never said you could not talk to Allah in your slave masters English if that makes you more comfortable do proceed to do so.
@VoyageIslam I've been civil throughout our brief discourse but you are devolving into petty insults. No matter what you wear or how many Qu'ranic verses you recite the true you cannot be contained. Your argumentative, negative, stubborn nature took little to reveal itself. That in itself is self explanatory as to how you ended up on Youtube seeking attention and praise by pretending to be an Arab Imam despite possessing limited education and understanding.
@Badjohn007 You have civilly averted answering why do you think European clothing makes you a Black man. My Arabic is very basic stuff the reason you think I know so much is because I actually know little but you know nothing. You came here attacked the way I dress and speak while you wear the clothing and speak the language of people who used to own you. I will ask you gain; PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW WEARING EUROPEAN STYLED CLOTHING MAKES YOU A BLACK MAN.
@VoyageIslam And I will again answer that clothes do not make the man. Your attempts to shift focus from your emulation of Arab culture and dress to me is silly. Your video is not about me. You reached out to me to say this video would answer a a question on a previous video. It did not so I reiterated, rephrased the question and your response was to ask me questions. I take that to mean you have no answer. I happen to know more Arabic than you've displayed but that's neither here nor there.
@Badjohn007 By the way my clothing came from Indonesia not Arabia. I do have clothing from Saudi though. Why is your European dress better than Arab dress? I answered your question but you seem to have purposely buried it. Shall I reiterate or are you still trying to figure out how to spell desert?
@VoyageIslam Btw, my name is not John, that is not me in the pink shirt and I don't wear Nikes. Perhaps if you address my comments rather than present prepared rebuttals that don't apply we can experience progress in our dialogue.
@Badjohn007 So you have a fake name and fake picture yet you think I have lost my identity? Your question was moot but I have one my best to answer it. Jesus was not an Arab but he looked and dressed the way I do and so do many Africans. Why do you feel I would be "Blacker" wearing European clothes? No matter how "White" you dress you are still just another Black man. Do not feel that your need to be accepted by the West in compulsory upon me.
@VoyageIslam Fake name? Is VoyageIslam your name? I don't understand. That picture is a still from the video. What is your point? Jesus dressed like you? That was 2000yrs ago. Why are you so obsessed with AESTHETICS? Your entire retort is about CLOTHES and APPEARANCES. Do you believe the garments on a man's back are more important than what is in his heart or his deeds? Apparently you do which is why you're dressed the way you do and take such pride in your Arabic. Have a nice day bruh.
@Badjohn007 No I do not believe the clothes on a mans back defines him you believe that, that is why you try o define yourself in a way the American culture accepts you and recognizes you as there former slave. I am no more your brother than any other human being so spare the pseudo cordiality. It is Friday night here so why would I have a nice day?
If you speak in Arabic or dress in Arab attire who's culture are you embracing? May God continue to guide you brother. I listened to the entire video out of respect. I'm not a Muslim nor do I feel Islam is any better than Christianity for the black man but that's just my opinion.
@Badjohn007 Hello, Islam cuts off racism at it's core where no other religious scripture does
Racism is not allowed in Islam, Quran speaks of human equality in the following terms: O mankind, We have created you from a male and a female and have made you into nations and tribes for you to know one another. Truly, the noblest of you with God is the most pious.2 Truly, God is All-Knowing, All-Aware. (Quran, 49:13)
@ASA753 If racism is not allowed in Islam then the Arabs do not practice Islam. The problem here is CONVERTS have a very IDEALISTIC interpretation of Islam. For it to be a religion of "peace" these people can't seem to ever find it. Their history is of war, infighting and death. You may say the same of other people but none of them claim to be a way of life based on PEACE.
@Badjohn007 not idealistic but realistic because it is clear it is ordered & in scripture, where no other scripture states it, instead insinuates the contrary. I agree the problem may lay with all people in certain sectors of society whom 'believe' themselves superior 4 what ever false reasons. U claim Arabs r racists & I agree BUT only some, there r those who r knowledgable & fear Allah those who do not. Islam sees no color, is against tribalism and nationalism these r tools 2 divide mankind.
@ASA753 I agree with some of what you say but tribalism is a big part of Arab culture. Not only them but any nostalgic people. I believe when you adopt the language and customs of another whatever that may be the motivation should be closely examined. Is if an attempt to hide one's shame and be identified with perceived superiority? For the vast majority of blacks this is the case unfortunately. The shame of what slavery did to us as a people is great cause for reinvention of self.
@ASA753 Overall the Arab has been no better to the black population than anyone else. Yes there are isolated incidents of Arab kindness towards blacks because no group is monolithic in thinking or behavior. Those are the exception not the rule. Recently a member of the Saudi royal family was convicted for murdering his black Arab servant who was in fact his sex slave. Homosexuality and bestiality are rife in middle-eastern culture. I reject anything that stems from them.
@Badjohn007 yes I've heard about that & that was a vile crime agree or not is punishable by death in Saudi. But they don't just commit crimes against Blacks but anyone whom they feel superior 2 due 2 their status wealth whatever. No Muslim will claim that Saudi or everything in it is complete Islam, there is not 1 so called muslim country that practices Islam in it's entirety, there is much oppression, dictorship & 'royal' ruling which r all against Islam.
@Badjohn007 Look at Islam not the people my friend.
If I only had people 2 learn Islam from I would never had converted I studied it my self I read what God had 2 say, I stopped listning 2 the media & how some muslims behave. Only after I was convinced Islam 2 B the only truth I found the most beautiful warm & knowledgable people who practice the word of God we r all brothers & sisters all colors, races with no predjudices & this is the rule not exception in Islam.
@ASA753 There are Christians who make the same argument. Good people are good people so why the emphasis on any one "style" of goodness. The Arabs and Turks after imposed their beliefs upon those they subjugated. There was no choice as you were allowed to make. It was convert or die because like all other conquerors they forced their ways upon their "possessions." The good done by those claiming to represent Islam as they know it does not begin to offset the damage done in the name of the faith.
@Badjohn007 imposed their beliefs? where & when? don't believe everything u hear, christians have done that 4 centuries. Indonesia the largest muslim population in the world more muslim there than in arabia yet not an army stepped foot in that country only praticing arab merchants who showed what Islam is by their character. good is good but if u believe in the creator then he must have given us rules & boundries that can stand the test of time & never fail..people fail but not the word of Allah
@ASA753 You mean to tell me entire nations of people simply adopted the ways of strangers because of their character? Is that what the Taliban did in Afghanistan? Showed their character? Impose can mean more than militarily. Starving people will convert for food, etc. Poor people will convert in exchange for a livelihood and so on. The point is people were PRESSURED one way or the other to change their ways. That is a fact. Any student of history can attest to this. Just look at Sudan.
@Badjohn007 Taliban is a new group Afghan was muslim from the time of the Islamic empire, the media NEVER talks about the most successful empire in the history of this planet u should study it some time. I magored in history & no 1 ever told us about the islamic empire instead they told us that nothing occurred in the "medievil " times, subhanualla bloody liars i remember thinking how come there was no 1 in charge for 1000 years where there was always an empire before & after? medievil... lol !
@ASA753 Taliban maybe a new group but theirs is an old mindset. I'm not disputing the Arab had an Empire. Measuring "greatness" is purely subjective. The Mongolians had a great empire too but look at them today. History, ALL history involves embellishments meant to motivate and unify the people because most people need something to believe in. In my opinion the "greatest" of all civilizations was the ancient Egyptian which lasted THOUSANDS of years before the Hyksos and Greeks.
@ASA753 I understand you CANNOT see things any way other than how you do. You have invested your life and that of your family in the path you've chosen. I have made no such commitment so I'm free to see things how they are. Judaism gave rise to Christianity and Islam is a combination of the two which is why Muslims "claim" to recognize the prophets of the Torah and New Testament while placing greatest emphasis on their own prophet Muhammad as the Christians did with Christ before them. lol
@Badjohn007 : Do you not think it is more beneficial to focus on the similarities in the three religions instead of spreading hatred and even wars with the few differences ???. Thank you in advance .
@strongfoot2009 Ultimately, my issue is with the arrogance of members of any school of thought who claim exclusivity on spirituality. Men have known God before Islam, Christianity or Judaism. The importance of prayer is not the language used but the purpose behind it. Primitive people place great emphasis on such frivolity.The first recorded belief in one God was Pharaoh Akenaton. I believe the so-called Hebrews were in fact a remnant of this group and were ostracized for their beliefs.
@strongfoot2009 I also believe that group left Egypt and crossed the Sinai to find a new beginning to avoid religious persecution. There they intermingled with local tribes they called Canaanites. The truth is there is no record of Israelites ever being enslaved in Egypt nor record of a man named Moses despite the ancient Egyptians being the most prolific record keepers in all of antiquity. The hieroglyphs mention Ramses II and all related stories but no Exodus.
@strongfoot2009 This is common knowledge among scholars. The Jews have no right to Palestine because the very premise of their claim is based upon a fairy tale. The reason this argument is not popular isn't because it's a lie but the implications for not just the Jewish faith but the subsequent spin-offs would be great. Instead the theologians work to cover the truth and perpetuate the lies. This is why RELIGION is the biggest impediment to knowing God.
@Badjohn007 : My friend who posted this video asked me to keep my ideas to the tape itself and I respect his wishes . In response to your comment, I am obliged to ask you to answer me : How can Palestine be libereted when you have libya, Irak, afghanistan as colonies too and when I expect more Muslims nations are going through terrible turmoil such as Syria, Yemen, Bahrain, ....etc.....etc.. ?. We should be realistic at least .
@Badjohn007 hmm...i could say the same to you, investments come & go u r implying that i am fooling myself 2 delve in a religion that doesn't ring true coz I've invested so much into it. Investments can be sold for something better but I have the best my freind Alhumdullila. I've been muslim for 20 yrs i wouldnt've lasted this long if it were false.
@Badjohn007 Badjohn i see u who claims 2 have the freedom but i disagree u r opressing yourself by not trying to find 'a truth' u r intent on hating a group/s & u CANNOT get past that.
@ASA753 I've read some of it but I've read it in English not Arabic which I'm told is the BEST way to read it. lol. I don't hate Arabs. I merely point out that they've spread their culture vis a vis religion like others before them. The Qu'ran is merely a revised version of the old and new testament meant for a specific audience during a specific time. The Hebrews personalized an Egyptian theology, Christians repeated the process with the Hebrew and Arabs did the same with all the aforementioned
@Badjohn007 what about the spread of the western culture that has been shoved down all of our throats for decades even in non western cultures?
no friend Islam has existed since the beginning of time, Islam literally means 'submission 2 one God', what did Adam teach? Noah? they all taught the same. It's because people forget and implement man made ideals that Allah sent prophets to remind and Mohammad was sent 4 the same reason they all had the same message "worship one God that is Allah"
@ASA753 Islam appeared for the first time in the 7th century. Did anyone practice the 5 pillars of faith before Muhammad? NO! Islam is a new religion. It is a lie to say the prophets practiced Islam when according to the scriptures they practiced JUDAISM. Islam is innovation. Nothing more. No one prayed towards Mecca. No one called God Allah and no one prayed in Arabic. You know full well that Islam entails much more than obedience to God. Why lie?
@Badjohn007 & what is judaism? belief of monothestic faith ONE GOD this is the point. Juadim wasn't even a word till recent centuries it came from the peopel of Ju-dea they where the followers of Moses who btw never gave them the name of Jews. in the bible & torah & quran r referred as bani israel. they all prayed to Allah, allah = arabic elohim = hebrew, & jesus who spoke aromaic not hebrew called him illah. the 3 languages r concidered sister languages, open the arabic bible u will see Allah
@ASA753 They weren't called Jews they were called Israelites. I know. Lets not play semantics. Elohim is a PLURAL not singular. Genesis 1:26 God (Elohim) said, "Let US make man in OUR Likeness...." It was fron this the Christian say the trinity is real because they explain the plural as being the Father, son and holy spirit. Allah does not equal Elohim. YOUR argument is flawed and rife with misinformation but I digress....
@Badjohn007 I beg your pardon my mistake I meant to say Eloah singular. I know what christians say the problem is their book doesn't back up what they say. 'Jesus is God?" NO WHERE even in their bible does Jesus claim he is god! 4 somthing so vital to mankind (according 2 them) yet he couldn't say it? thats why I stepped out of christianity years b 4 I became a Muslim. I do realise u r not advocating christianity or any religion 4 that matter.
@ASA753 You may have meant to say Eloah so explain why there is a plural? If there is only one God then there should be no Plural form. What exactly is the purpose of identifying a multiplicity when discussing God? Yahweh or YHWH is probably the closest Hebrew equivalent to Allah. Again, we cannot label parts of the scriptures we disagree with as having been tampered with and use other parts that support our position. Either you accept it or reject it in totality. Oh what a web we weave...
@Badjohn007 I see arguments I used once, but I also see a lot of misinformation. If u read the torah & the bible the indicators r there even though those scriptures have been so heavily interfered with by man. if u read the story of Abraham in the torah &bible u will see that they were 4 told of the coming of the Prophet it talks of the valley of 'Becca' in arabic' Bakkah' old name of Mecca and God's promise of Ismail’s great nation in which the Prophet Mohammad is a direct descendant of.
@ASA753 ALL scriptures were written by MEN. You and your ilk place belief in the words of MEN and you justify it by proclaiming it to be the word of God. lol Men lie, mislead, manipulate. and have agendas. If you tell a lie long enough people accept it as truth. The Jews write a book that says they're God's favorite. Christians write a book that says only through Christ can you be saved and Arabs combine the two and make themselves the star. lol The pattern of egotism and deception are clear.
@Badjohn007 Genesis 21:17-18 17And God heard the voice of the lad; and the angel of God called to Hagar out of heaven, and said unto her, What aileth thee, Hagar? fear not; for God hath heard the voice of the lad where he is. 18Arise, lift up the lad, and hold him in thine hand; for I WILL MAKE HIM A GREAT NATION.
@ASA753 The Jews told the first lie by claiming to be a "chosen" people and using the name of God to support it. Rather than expose the original lie subsequent "prophets" saw how to make the lie work for THEIR people in their time and perpetuated it. What you call interference by man was in all actuality attempts by theologians who know the truth to bring the lies into alignment. The Mormons, NOI, etc., all follow the same blueprint. There is a concise pattern with RELIGION. All RELIGION. LIES.
@Badjohn007 very interesting concept of thought u have put forward.
and yes in my mind over 20 yrs ago i would have agreed BUT you can not say this for sure until you have read ALL scriptures and then compared them and then to cement your findings read them and understand it in the original language, translations are not good enough. Understand the history of how when and who put these scriptures in place.
@ASA753 There's a saying. "The first casualty of war is the truth." In the spiritual war between good and evil this is most certainly the case. I despise any attempt at ideological loftiness no matter the religion. Each and every religion came about at the time it was needed by the people it came to. The journey to the truth is a personal and private one because ultimately we must all discover the truths specific to our path.
@Badjohn007 ok so you believe in no religion, in no God, you believe the meaning of life is to as you put it "discover the truths specific to our path"?
AND then? when you discover it what happens next?
btw the issue of religion being 'personal & private' is a concept that only came to be in recent times in western culture, when more & more people became disgruntled about their religion, because knowledge came into the hands of the lay people & not only priests & scholars.
@ASA753 I believe in God. I pray and meditate daily. When I pray I talk to God and when I meditate I listen. Obviously what I hear holds more weight than what I have to say. I became disenchanted with organized religion long ago. I believe that most people's concept of God is primitive. I see God as omnipotent, omnipresent and infinitesimal in every respect and aspect. MAN in his very limited understanding seeks to define the undefinable and through his arrogance IMPOSE his concepts upon others.
@Badjohn007 omnipotent, omnipresent and infinite is exactly what he is & more. We believe Allah has no beginning and no end and he is NOTHING like his creation. We as human beings can not even fathom our brain can not comprehend him.
Badjohn it is only arrogant if it came from man if it came from God it is not. He created us wouldn't he know what is best for us? how do we mere mortals know what is best? he must have given us a book of instructions don't u think?
@ASA753 Btw, I respectfully disagree with you about personal and private being new and western. Did Moses not go up in the mountain alone for a period and did not Christ do the same? I find great solace in silence and solitude. The clarity of thought I experience when I tune out the world is unbelievable. Some are afraid to be alone. So many look outward and skyward for the answers that reside inward.
@Badjohn007 Muslims do the same we have personal private prayer time with Allah but our worship is also public I don't mean in the act of prayer I mean in our obedience to him is to worship our Creator, in the way we dress, our manners, what we eat, hygene, marrage bringing up children, how we spend money that Allah gave us & so many aspects of our lives. When u see a Muslim dress in that way, know that he & she is worshipping our creator, everything that we do in obedience is an act of worship.
@ASA753 I am not a defender of Western culture. I suppose the solution as you see it is to force Arab culture upon the people to counter the western culture. lol. How about each person find their own path and leave others to do the same?
@ASA753 If Islam works for you then good. That is your path. I happen to know it is not the only path nor the original. I prefer to seek the source. Some are content with what they have. Good for them. Man existed a long time before Muhammad or the Qu'ran or Arabic and he had a relationship with God throughout. You cannot tell me there is no other way but Islam. I do not accept that.
@Badjohn007 I can relate 2 what you've said coz I & so many like me have all said the same thing, I used 2 think the muslims so arrogant to think they have to only true religion & way of life.....4 each of us we ate our words later through understanding Islam it's roots from the beginning of time, the history the life of all the prophets etc...then of course the seal the Quran in Arabic. I'm not here to convert u & unlike evangelicals expect u 2 believe with no proof, u have 2 find it yourself.
@ASA753 Of course you will say any example of Arab wrongdoing was not Islam. The Arab slave trade in Africa was not Islam I guess. Raiding villages and taking wives of men as concubines while making the men Eunuchs to guard their harems or conscripts to assist in their conquests wasn't Islam either. Of course it wasn't yet these are the very acts responsible for the spread of Islam. The barbarous Arab knows only one thing and that's violence. They themselves require force. That's their character
@Badjohn007 Prophet Mohammad was also sent to eradicate slavery 1 of his best friends was Bilal a slave he had bought from his evil master & set him free, Bilal holds 1 of the highest honor in Islam he is the one that created the call for prayer that we still hear 2day 5 times a day.
Did you know that your anscestors who b4 they where so cruley taken from Africa where in the most part practicing muslims?
@Badjohn007 yes I agree about the character of the arabs in 'general' not all i have to say. the Prophet had no problems relaying his message with many of the pagan/christian/jew arabs but with many he did & they declared war on him 4 causing a stir on their way of life.
To the contrary the Prophet Mohammad wrote a letter to the christian king of Abyssinia (north eastern afrcia kingdom) stating the truth about Allah and the whole kingdom became Muslim over time just from a letter.
@Badjohn007 Islam rejects certain individuals or nations being favored because of their wealth, power, or race.
The Prophet Muhammad said: {O people! Your God is one and your forefather (Adam) is one. An Arab is not better than a non-Arab and a non-Arab is not better than an Arab, and a red (i.e. white tinged with red) person is not better than a black person and a black person is not better than a red person, except in piety.
@VoyageIslam I don't wear pink. You assumed that was me in the clip but it's hip hop personality Ed Lover. However, I dress and speak the way I do because it is all I've known. You on the other hand have CHOSEN to mimic the Arab who has his own land, culture, religion, wealth, and God yet still is nothing but a lapdog to the European powers. The Arab is a despicable, primitive people whose self-destructive nature surpasses that of all other cultures. Why emulate them?
Environment dictate habits that over time become culture. The deification of culture becomes religion. Arrogance makes one group feel their RELIGION is superior to another which is why religion has become the greates impediment to knowing God. Each man is limited to his level of understanding which is why so many read the same scriptures and walk away with different messages. Who's right? Who's wrong? It is arrogant to think any one man has all the answers. Be careful brother.
@Badjohn007 Environment is only a sure indicator of habit i.e. culture in species governed by instinct as opposed to intellect. I consciously chose to wear what I wear while you simply blindly dress according to the culture or environment created for you by your prior slave master. You are upset with the way I chose to dress because it does not conform with the societal standard that is a prerequisite for the slave mentality ordained by the mostly White non-Muslim manufacturers in the USA.
@VoyageIslam Culture is the culmination of HABITS over a period of time that was dictated by ENVIRONMENT. All people around the world developed an environment appropriate dress code that over time became culturally identifiable. Do you live in a dessert?
@Badjohn007 How did you culture accumulate? The answer is via slavery this is why you promote emulating your former slave owners (a charge you have not denied.) Dessert?
Dessert - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In Western culture, dessert is a course that typically comes at the end of a meal.....
@VoyageIslam You have a knack for focusing on the unimportant like clothes and typos, of which you've had several I have a substantive argument that need not split hairs nor play games of semantics. While you're in the dictionary look up CIRCUMLOCUTION. It sums you up well. My culture is Happiness, love, knowledge and success. There is no patent or set way for these things to manifest. and be expressed.
@Badjohn007 Excuse me you directed this conversation to the subject of clothing and I exhaustively explained why I chose to do so but when I ask you about your choice of dress you cower. You say it is about happiness, so if a junkie or a drug dealer are happy is that O.K.? If you say no it is a contradiction of your statement: "My culture is Happiness, love, knowledge and success. There is no patent or set way for these things to manifest. and be expressed."
ISLAM ITS RELGION FOR ALL WORLD
AceR1625 4 months ago
@AceR1625 Agreed.
VoyageIslam 4 months ago
Islam is Arab culture, the wickedness in Islam is the prove. Mohammed committed so many evil deeds during his life time.
dapodokumentary 8 months ago
@dapodokumentary Did you even watch the brothers video? The Arabs were the first to fight against Islam if it was their culture why would they fight their culture? Arabs were burying their first born daughters alive before Muhammad peace be upon him arrived he was an extraordinary human being placed in the midst of barbaric tribesmen and cut throats. You act as if he lived among boy scouts.
Truth0meter 8 months ago
@Truth0meter Mohammed was a product of his environment, if the man was alive today he would be considered evil and immoral, he might have been a bit better than his fellow tribes men back then but never the less was still barbaric by todays standard. Come of the brain washing brother.
dapodokumentary 7 months ago
@dapodokumentary Why do people like you search for islamic videos, just to bash them? Do you have nothing else to do?
madhatter536 6 months ago
@dapodokumentary Actually Islam is the opposite of Arab culture that is why Arabs were the first to fight against it. Being a Westerner you have heard much negative propaganda about Islam while Western atrocities like Hiroshima are played down but no matter what you bring up against Muhammad (sa) it is a product of Western culture. I study Islam from it's sources and if you want to understand Islam go to the sources not the media.
VoyageIslam 6 months ago
Assalamo alaykom. who is the reciter at the beginning?
92sumsum 10 months ago
A-Salaamu Alaykum brother. Just one question, what is the supplication you recite before speaking? I forget what it's called. Thank you for your time.
TheBrotherAbdullah 11 months ago
@TheBrotherAbdullah Wa laikum as salam wa rahmatu Allah wa barakatu, A: Khutbah al Haajah.
VoyageIslam 11 months ago
@VoyageIslam A-salaamu Alaykum thank you akhi and Jazak'Allah khairn for these videos.
TheBrotherAbdullah 11 months ago
@TheBrotherAbdullah Walaikum as salam, There is no strength or power but in Allah.
VoyageIslam 11 months ago
interesting perspective
razzims 11 months ago
Some believe we are here to worship and serve God. They believe this can only be done through prayer and adherence to the scriptures. What if the sum of each and every living creature's existence serves the almighty in a way the individual cannot fathom? What if life is never ending and esoterically serves an experiential purpose that is above our capacity to comprehend? I see Chaos as evil and Order as good but God is above both. The two work to make his will manifest.
Badjohn007 11 months ago
assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatoyou are a truly inspirational and make my iman rise may Allah reward you
DinoScarface91 11 months ago
@VoyageIslam : In a world full of different religions, one should respect the rest and carry on with his or her belief . I am calling on humanity to co exist in peace and harmony . I am calling on this blobe to be tolerant and to be just, fair and to have a strong inner conscious . With six billion people around this planet, we can not all agree on the same ideologies and the same paths of life . We need more understanding . In the Qu'Oran " there is no compulsion in religion "....etc. Thanks
strongfoot2009 11 months ago
@strongfoot2009 I respect your right to your opinion. Please make your next comment relevant to the video topic.
VoyageIslam 11 months ago
Judaism, Christianity and Muslim are very similar in so many ways . Even their civil laws are very similar . Do you not think so folks ???. Thanks .
strongfoot2009 11 months ago
Brother, I've come to the conclusion this dialogue is a waste of my time. What I am doing is tantamount to "casting my pearls before swine." May your journey in life lead you to the ultimate truth where a man's attire nor his language are of any consequence. Peace.
Badjohn007 11 months ago
@Badjohn007 Don't feel bad you are not the first o come in like a lion and go out like a lamb. P-E-A-C-E Positive Eduction Always Corrects Errors!
VoyageIslam 11 months ago
@VoyageIslam I leave as I came. Knowing you are just another in a long line of delusional black men inspired by the Autobiography of Malcolm X. Malcolm was wrong about so many things and like you he learned the hard way. From your use of the acronym for Peace I take it you were once schooled in the NOI doctrine. Your debate style of distortion is also a technique they embrace. Your argumentative nature denotes strong feminine influences. You strike me as an extremely shallow individual.
Badjohn007 11 months ago
@Badjohn007 You leave still not explaining why you love European clothing. I give you an A+ on the attempted smoke screen and Ad hominem distraction though.
VoyageIslam 11 months ago
The 3 major monotheistic religions are built upon a LIE. The TORAH or PENTATEUCH promotes the notion of a CHOSEN people based on GENETICS rather than obedience to the Almighty. The prophesies of coming "messengers" pertinent to many ideological deviations of the original false religion opened the door to all existing theological confusion in the world. One LIE gave birth to many more. Every people who embraced the LIE personalized it and now the LIARS are each others' throats. Peace Black Man!
Badjohn007 11 months ago
@Badjohn007 I asked you ho does wearing Nikes (a European owned shoe manufacture by KOREANS) and pink European styed shirts make more of a Black man than me? John is also a European name you have btw.
VoyageIslam 11 months ago
@VoyageIslam Rather than engage the original issue I raised you shift focus. I understand. If you are content pretending to live in the 8th century then I'm happy for you. I am the descendant of slaves. To me attire, mine or yours is not as important as my relationship with God. It appears you have immersed yourself in Arab culture and history which is not necessarily bad but it has nothing to do with serving God. If you talk to God in English will he not know what's in your heart?
Badjohn007 11 months ago
@Badjohn007 Why do you have the photo of another man on your profile? Do you hate own photo or just infatuated by his? Allah does no change I do not dress to please you or the Western society you promote. When another Muslim looks at me they know who I am, I know who I am and Allah knows who I am. On the other hand ONLY ALLAH knows who you are. I never said you could not talk to Allah in your slave masters English if that makes you more comfortable do proceed to do so.
VoyageIslam 11 months ago
@VoyageIslam I've been civil throughout our brief discourse but you are devolving into petty insults. No matter what you wear or how many Qu'ranic verses you recite the true you cannot be contained. Your argumentative, negative, stubborn nature took little to reveal itself. That in itself is self explanatory as to how you ended up on Youtube seeking attention and praise by pretending to be an Arab Imam despite possessing limited education and understanding.
Badjohn007 11 months ago
@Badjohn007 You have civilly averted answering why do you think European clothing makes you a Black man. My Arabic is very basic stuff the reason you think I know so much is because I actually know little but you know nothing. You came here attacked the way I dress and speak while you wear the clothing and speak the language of people who used to own you. I will ask you gain; PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW WEARING EUROPEAN STYLED CLOTHING MAKES YOU A BLACK MAN.
VoyageIslam 11 months ago
@VoyageIslam And I will again answer that clothes do not make the man. Your attempts to shift focus from your emulation of Arab culture and dress to me is silly. Your video is not about me. You reached out to me to say this video would answer a a question on a previous video. It did not so I reiterated, rephrased the question and your response was to ask me questions. I take that to mean you have no answer. I happen to know more Arabic than you've displayed but that's neither here nor there.
Badjohn007 11 months ago
@Badjohn007 By the way my clothing came from Indonesia not Arabia. I do have clothing from Saudi though. Why is your European dress better than Arab dress? I answered your question but you seem to have purposely buried it. Shall I reiterate or are you still trying to figure out how to spell desert?
VoyageIslam 11 months ago
@VoyageIslam Btw, my name is not John, that is not me in the pink shirt and I don't wear Nikes. Perhaps if you address my comments rather than present prepared rebuttals that don't apply we can experience progress in our dialogue.
Badjohn007 11 months ago
@Badjohn007 So you have a fake name and fake picture yet you think I have lost my identity? Your question was moot but I have one my best to answer it. Jesus was not an Arab but he looked and dressed the way I do and so do many Africans. Why do you feel I would be "Blacker" wearing European clothes? No matter how "White" you dress you are still just another Black man. Do not feel that your need to be accepted by the West in compulsory upon me.
VoyageIslam 11 months ago
@VoyageIslam Fake name? Is VoyageIslam your name? I don't understand. That picture is a still from the video. What is your point? Jesus dressed like you? That was 2000yrs ago. Why are you so obsessed with AESTHETICS? Your entire retort is about CLOTHES and APPEARANCES. Do you believe the garments on a man's back are more important than what is in his heart or his deeds? Apparently you do which is why you're dressed the way you do and take such pride in your Arabic. Have a nice day bruh.
Badjohn007 11 months ago
@Badjohn007 No I do not believe the clothes on a mans back defines him you believe that, that is why you try o define yourself in a way the American culture accepts you and recognizes you as there former slave. I am no more your brother than any other human being so spare the pseudo cordiality. It is Friday night here so why would I have a nice day?
VoyageIslam 11 months ago
@VoyageIslam Brother you're ignorance is intensifying with every post. How easily you become rattled.
Badjohn007 11 months ago
If you speak in Arabic or dress in Arab attire who's culture are you embracing? May God continue to guide you brother. I listened to the entire video out of respect. I'm not a Muslim nor do I feel Islam is any better than Christianity for the black man but that's just my opinion.
Badjohn007 11 months ago
@Badjohn007 Hello, Islam cuts off racism at it's core where no other religious scripture does
Racism is not allowed in Islam, Quran speaks of human equality in the following terms: O mankind, We have created you from a male and a female and have made you into nations and tribes for you to know one another. Truly, the noblest of you with God is the most pious.2 Truly, God is All-Knowing, All-Aware. (Quran, 49:13)
ASA753 11 months ago
@ASA753 If racism is not allowed in Islam then the Arabs do not practice Islam. The problem here is CONVERTS have a very IDEALISTIC interpretation of Islam. For it to be a religion of "peace" these people can't seem to ever find it. Their history is of war, infighting and death. You may say the same of other people but none of them claim to be a way of life based on PEACE.
Badjohn007 11 months ago
@Badjohn007 not idealistic but realistic because it is clear it is ordered & in scripture, where no other scripture states it, instead insinuates the contrary. I agree the problem may lay with all people in certain sectors of society whom 'believe' themselves superior 4 what ever false reasons. U claim Arabs r racists & I agree BUT only some, there r those who r knowledgable & fear Allah those who do not. Islam sees no color, is against tribalism and nationalism these r tools 2 divide mankind.
ASA753 11 months ago
@ASA753 I agree with some of what you say but tribalism is a big part of Arab culture. Not only them but any nostalgic people. I believe when you adopt the language and customs of another whatever that may be the motivation should be closely examined. Is if an attempt to hide one's shame and be identified with perceived superiority? For the vast majority of blacks this is the case unfortunately. The shame of what slavery did to us as a people is great cause for reinvention of self.
Badjohn007 11 months ago
@ASA753 Overall the Arab has been no better to the black population than anyone else. Yes there are isolated incidents of Arab kindness towards blacks because no group is monolithic in thinking or behavior. Those are the exception not the rule. Recently a member of the Saudi royal family was convicted for murdering his black Arab servant who was in fact his sex slave. Homosexuality and bestiality are rife in middle-eastern culture. I reject anything that stems from them.
Badjohn007 11 months ago
@Badjohn007 yes I've heard about that & that was a vile crime agree or not is punishable by death in Saudi. But they don't just commit crimes against Blacks but anyone whom they feel superior 2 due 2 their status wealth whatever. No Muslim will claim that Saudi or everything in it is complete Islam, there is not 1 so called muslim country that practices Islam in it's entirety, there is much oppression, dictorship & 'royal' ruling which r all against Islam.
ASA753 11 months ago
@Badjohn007 Look at Islam not the people my friend.
If I only had people 2 learn Islam from I would never had converted I studied it my self I read what God had 2 say, I stopped listning 2 the media & how some muslims behave. Only after I was convinced Islam 2 B the only truth I found the most beautiful warm & knowledgable people who practice the word of God we r all brothers & sisters all colors, races with no predjudices & this is the rule not exception in Islam.
True Islam is practiced.
ASA753 11 months ago
@ASA753 There are Christians who make the same argument. Good people are good people so why the emphasis on any one "style" of goodness. The Arabs and Turks after imposed their beliefs upon those they subjugated. There was no choice as you were allowed to make. It was convert or die because like all other conquerors they forced their ways upon their "possessions." The good done by those claiming to represent Islam as they know it does not begin to offset the damage done in the name of the faith.
Badjohn007 11 months ago
@Badjohn007 imposed their beliefs? where & when? don't believe everything u hear, christians have done that 4 centuries. Indonesia the largest muslim population in the world more muslim there than in arabia yet not an army stepped foot in that country only praticing arab merchants who showed what Islam is by their character. good is good but if u believe in the creator then he must have given us rules & boundries that can stand the test of time & never fail..people fail but not the word of Allah
ASA753 11 months ago
@ASA753 You mean to tell me entire nations of people simply adopted the ways of strangers because of their character? Is that what the Taliban did in Afghanistan? Showed their character? Impose can mean more than militarily. Starving people will convert for food, etc. Poor people will convert in exchange for a livelihood and so on. The point is people were PRESSURED one way or the other to change their ways. That is a fact. Any student of history can attest to this. Just look at Sudan.
Badjohn007 11 months ago
@Badjohn007 Taliban is a new group Afghan was muslim from the time of the Islamic empire, the media NEVER talks about the most successful empire in the history of this planet u should study it some time. I magored in history & no 1 ever told us about the islamic empire instead they told us that nothing occurred in the "medievil " times, subhanualla bloody liars i remember thinking how come there was no 1 in charge for 1000 years where there was always an empire before & after? medievil... lol !
ASA753 11 months ago
@ASA753 Taliban maybe a new group but theirs is an old mindset. I'm not disputing the Arab had an Empire. Measuring "greatness" is purely subjective. The Mongolians had a great empire too but look at them today. History, ALL history involves embellishments meant to motivate and unify the people because most people need something to believe in. In my opinion the "greatest" of all civilizations was the ancient Egyptian which lasted THOUSANDS of years before the Hyksos and Greeks.
Badjohn007 11 months ago
@ASA753 I understand you CANNOT see things any way other than how you do. You have invested your life and that of your family in the path you've chosen. I have made no such commitment so I'm free to see things how they are. Judaism gave rise to Christianity and Islam is a combination of the two which is why Muslims "claim" to recognize the prophets of the Torah and New Testament while placing greatest emphasis on their own prophet Muhammad as the Christians did with Christ before them. lol
Badjohn007 11 months ago
@Badjohn007 : Do you not think it is more beneficial to focus on the similarities in the three religions instead of spreading hatred and even wars with the few differences ???. Thank you in advance .
strongfoot2009 11 months ago
@strongfoot2009 Ultimately, my issue is with the arrogance of members of any school of thought who claim exclusivity on spirituality. Men have known God before Islam, Christianity or Judaism. The importance of prayer is not the language used but the purpose behind it. Primitive people place great emphasis on such frivolity.The first recorded belief in one God was Pharaoh Akenaton. I believe the so-called Hebrews were in fact a remnant of this group and were ostracized for their beliefs.
Badjohn007 11 months ago
@strongfoot2009 I also believe that group left Egypt and crossed the Sinai to find a new beginning to avoid religious persecution. There they intermingled with local tribes they called Canaanites. The truth is there is no record of Israelites ever being enslaved in Egypt nor record of a man named Moses despite the ancient Egyptians being the most prolific record keepers in all of antiquity. The hieroglyphs mention Ramses II and all related stories but no Exodus.
Badjohn007 11 months ago
@strongfoot2009 This is common knowledge among scholars. The Jews have no right to Palestine because the very premise of their claim is based upon a fairy tale. The reason this argument is not popular isn't because it's a lie but the implications for not just the Jewish faith but the subsequent spin-offs would be great. Instead the theologians work to cover the truth and perpetuate the lies. This is why RELIGION is the biggest impediment to knowing God.
Badjohn007 11 months ago
@Badjohn007 : My friend who posted this video asked me to keep my ideas to the tape itself and I respect his wishes . In response to your comment, I am obliged to ask you to answer me : How can Palestine be libereted when you have libya, Irak, afghanistan as colonies too and when I expect more Muslims nations are going through terrible turmoil such as Syria, Yemen, Bahrain, ....etc.....etc.. ?. We should be realistic at least .
strongfoot2009 11 months ago
@Badjohn007 hmm...i could say the same to you, investments come & go u r implying that i am fooling myself 2 delve in a religion that doesn't ring true coz I've invested so much into it. Investments can be sold for something better but I have the best my freind Alhumdullila. I've been muslim for 20 yrs i wouldnt've lasted this long if it were false.
ASA753 11 months ago
@Badjohn007 Badjohn i see u who claims 2 have the freedom but i disagree u r opressing yourself by not trying to find 'a truth' u r intent on hating a group/s & u CANNOT get past that.
Have you read the Quran?
ASA753 11 months ago
@ASA753 I've read some of it but I've read it in English not Arabic which I'm told is the BEST way to read it. lol. I don't hate Arabs. I merely point out that they've spread their culture vis a vis religion like others before them. The Qu'ran is merely a revised version of the old and new testament meant for a specific audience during a specific time. The Hebrews personalized an Egyptian theology, Christians repeated the process with the Hebrew and Arabs did the same with all the aforementioned
Badjohn007 11 months ago
@Badjohn007 what about the spread of the western culture that has been shoved down all of our throats for decades even in non western cultures?
no friend Islam has existed since the beginning of time, Islam literally means 'submission 2 one God', what did Adam teach? Noah? they all taught the same. It's because people forget and implement man made ideals that Allah sent prophets to remind and Mohammad was sent 4 the same reason they all had the same message "worship one God that is Allah"
ASA753 11 months ago
@ASA753 Islam appeared for the first time in the 7th century. Did anyone practice the 5 pillars of faith before Muhammad? NO! Islam is a new religion. It is a lie to say the prophets practiced Islam when according to the scriptures they practiced JUDAISM. Islam is innovation. Nothing more. No one prayed towards Mecca. No one called God Allah and no one prayed in Arabic. You know full well that Islam entails much more than obedience to God. Why lie?
Badjohn007 11 months ago
@Badjohn007 & what is judaism? belief of monothestic faith ONE GOD this is the point. Juadim wasn't even a word till recent centuries it came from the peopel of Ju-dea they where the followers of Moses who btw never gave them the name of Jews. in the bible & torah & quran r referred as bani israel. they all prayed to Allah, allah = arabic elohim = hebrew, & jesus who spoke aromaic not hebrew called him illah. the 3 languages r concidered sister languages, open the arabic bible u will see Allah
ASA753 11 months ago
@ASA753 They weren't called Jews they were called Israelites. I know. Lets not play semantics. Elohim is a PLURAL not singular. Genesis 1:26 God (Elohim) said, "Let US make man in OUR Likeness...." It was fron this the Christian say the trinity is real because they explain the plural as being the Father, son and holy spirit. Allah does not equal Elohim. YOUR argument is flawed and rife with misinformation but I digress....
Badjohn007 11 months ago
@Badjohn007 I beg your pardon my mistake I meant to say Eloah singular. I know what christians say the problem is their book doesn't back up what they say. 'Jesus is God?" NO WHERE even in their bible does Jesus claim he is god! 4 somthing so vital to mankind (according 2 them) yet he couldn't say it? thats why I stepped out of christianity years b 4 I became a Muslim. I do realise u r not advocating christianity or any religion 4 that matter.
ASA753 11 months ago
@ASA753 You may have meant to say Eloah so explain why there is a plural? If there is only one God then there should be no Plural form. What exactly is the purpose of identifying a multiplicity when discussing God? Yahweh or YHWH is probably the closest Hebrew equivalent to Allah. Again, we cannot label parts of the scriptures we disagree with as having been tampered with and use other parts that support our position. Either you accept it or reject it in totality. Oh what a web we weave...
Badjohn007 11 months ago
@Badjohn007 I see arguments I used once, but I also see a lot of misinformation. If u read the torah & the bible the indicators r there even though those scriptures have been so heavily interfered with by man. if u read the story of Abraham in the torah &bible u will see that they were 4 told of the coming of the Prophet it talks of the valley of 'Becca' in arabic' Bakkah' old name of Mecca and God's promise of Ismail’s great nation in which the Prophet Mohammad is a direct descendant of.
ASA753 11 months ago
@ASA753 ALL scriptures were written by MEN. You and your ilk place belief in the words of MEN and you justify it by proclaiming it to be the word of God. lol Men lie, mislead, manipulate. and have agendas. If you tell a lie long enough people accept it as truth. The Jews write a book that says they're God's favorite. Christians write a book that says only through Christ can you be saved and Arabs combine the two and make themselves the star. lol The pattern of egotism and deception are clear.
Badjohn007 11 months ago
@Badjohn007 Genesis 21:17-18 17And God heard the voice of the lad; and the angel of God called to Hagar out of heaven, and said unto her, What aileth thee, Hagar? fear not; for God hath heard the voice of the lad where he is. 18Arise, lift up the lad, and hold him in thine hand; for I WILL MAKE HIM A GREAT NATION.
ASA753 11 months ago
@ASA753 The Jews told the first lie by claiming to be a "chosen" people and using the name of God to support it. Rather than expose the original lie subsequent "prophets" saw how to make the lie work for THEIR people in their time and perpetuated it. What you call interference by man was in all actuality attempts by theologians who know the truth to bring the lies into alignment. The Mormons, NOI, etc., all follow the same blueprint. There is a concise pattern with RELIGION. All RELIGION. LIES.
Badjohn007 11 months ago
@Badjohn007 very interesting concept of thought u have put forward.
and yes in my mind over 20 yrs ago i would have agreed BUT you can not say this for sure until you have read ALL scriptures and then compared them and then to cement your findings read them and understand it in the original language, translations are not good enough. Understand the history of how when and who put these scriptures in place.
ASA753 11 months ago
@ASA753 There's a saying. "The first casualty of war is the truth." In the spiritual war between good and evil this is most certainly the case. I despise any attempt at ideological loftiness no matter the religion. Each and every religion came about at the time it was needed by the people it came to. The journey to the truth is a personal and private one because ultimately we must all discover the truths specific to our path.
Badjohn007 11 months ago
@Badjohn007 ok so you believe in no religion, in no God, you believe the meaning of life is to as you put it "discover the truths specific to our path"?
AND then? when you discover it what happens next?
btw the issue of religion being 'personal & private' is a concept that only came to be in recent times in western culture, when more & more people became disgruntled about their religion, because knowledge came into the hands of the lay people & not only priests & scholars.
ASA753 11 months ago
@ASA753 I believe in God. I pray and meditate daily. When I pray I talk to God and when I meditate I listen. Obviously what I hear holds more weight than what I have to say. I became disenchanted with organized religion long ago. I believe that most people's concept of God is primitive. I see God as omnipotent, omnipresent and infinitesimal in every respect and aspect. MAN in his very limited understanding seeks to define the undefinable and through his arrogance IMPOSE his concepts upon others.
Badjohn007 11 months ago
@Badjohn007 omnipotent, omnipresent and infinite is exactly what he is & more. We believe Allah has no beginning and no end and he is NOTHING like his creation. We as human beings can not even fathom our brain can not comprehend him.
Badjohn it is only arrogant if it came from man if it came from God it is not. He created us wouldn't he know what is best for us? how do we mere mortals know what is best? he must have given us a book of instructions don't u think?
ASA753 11 months ago
@ASA753 Well we agree on some things. May the most high continue to guide us both. Peace my brother.
Badjohn007 11 months ago
@Badjohn007 Amen and peace to you my brother in humanity.
ASA753 11 months ago
@ASA753 Btw, I respectfully disagree with you about personal and private being new and western. Did Moses not go up in the mountain alone for a period and did not Christ do the same? I find great solace in silence and solitude. The clarity of thought I experience when I tune out the world is unbelievable. Some are afraid to be alone. So many look outward and skyward for the answers that reside inward.
Badjohn007 11 months ago 2
@Badjohn007 Muslims do the same we have personal private prayer time with Allah but our worship is also public I don't mean in the act of prayer I mean in our obedience to him is to worship our Creator, in the way we dress, our manners, what we eat, hygene, marrage bringing up children, how we spend money that Allah gave us & so many aspects of our lives. When u see a Muslim dress in that way, know that he & she is worshipping our creator, everything that we do in obedience is an act of worship.
ASA753 11 months ago
@ASA753 I am not a defender of Western culture. I suppose the solution as you see it is to force Arab culture upon the people to counter the western culture. lol. How about each person find their own path and leave others to do the same?
Badjohn007 11 months ago
@ASA753 If Islam works for you then good. That is your path. I happen to know it is not the only path nor the original. I prefer to seek the source. Some are content with what they have. Good for them. Man existed a long time before Muhammad or the Qu'ran or Arabic and he had a relationship with God throughout. You cannot tell me there is no other way but Islam. I do not accept that.
Badjohn007 11 months ago
@Badjohn007 I can relate 2 what you've said coz I & so many like me have all said the same thing, I used 2 think the muslims so arrogant to think they have to only true religion & way of life.....4 each of us we ate our words later through understanding Islam it's roots from the beginning of time, the history the life of all the prophets etc...then of course the seal the Quran in Arabic. I'm not here to convert u & unlike evangelicals expect u 2 believe with no proof, u have 2 find it yourself.
ASA753 11 months ago
@ASA753 Of course you will say any example of Arab wrongdoing was not Islam. The Arab slave trade in Africa was not Islam I guess. Raiding villages and taking wives of men as concubines while making the men Eunuchs to guard their harems or conscripts to assist in their conquests wasn't Islam either. Of course it wasn't yet these are the very acts responsible for the spread of Islam. The barbarous Arab knows only one thing and that's violence. They themselves require force. That's their character
Badjohn007 11 months ago
@Badjohn007 Prophet Mohammad was also sent to eradicate slavery 1 of his best friends was Bilal a slave he had bought from his evil master & set him free, Bilal holds 1 of the highest honor in Islam he is the one that created the call for prayer that we still hear 2day 5 times a day.
Did you know that your anscestors who b4 they where so cruley taken from Africa where in the most part practicing muslims?
ASA753 11 months ago
@Badjohn007 yes I agree about the character of the arabs in 'general' not all i have to say. the Prophet had no problems relaying his message with many of the pagan/christian/jew arabs but with many he did & they declared war on him 4 causing a stir on their way of life.
To the contrary the Prophet Mohammad wrote a letter to the christian king of Abyssinia (north eastern afrcia kingdom) stating the truth about Allah and the whole kingdom became Muslim over time just from a letter.
ASA753 11 months ago
@Badjohn007 Islam rejects certain individuals or nations being favored because of their wealth, power, or race.
The Prophet Muhammad said: {O people! Your God is one and your forefather (Adam) is one. An Arab is not better than a non-Arab and a non-Arab is not better than an Arab, and a red (i.e. white tinged with red) person is not better than a black person and a black person is not better than a red person, except in piety.
ASA753 11 months ago
@Badjohn007 Whose culture are you choosing wearing your PINK Izod shirt and speaking ENGLISH? Do you really think wearing Nike makes you a Black man?
VoyageIslam 11 months ago
@VoyageIslam I don't wear pink. You assumed that was me in the clip but it's hip hop personality Ed Lover. However, I dress and speak the way I do because it is all I've known. You on the other hand have CHOSEN to mimic the Arab who has his own land, culture, religion, wealth, and God yet still is nothing but a lapdog to the European powers. The Arab is a despicable, primitive people whose self-destructive nature surpasses that of all other cultures. Why emulate them?
Badjohn007 11 months ago
Environment dictate habits that over time become culture. The deification of culture becomes religion. Arrogance makes one group feel their RELIGION is superior to another which is why religion has become the greates impediment to knowing God. Each man is limited to his level of understanding which is why so many read the same scriptures and walk away with different messages. Who's right? Who's wrong? It is arrogant to think any one man has all the answers. Be careful brother.
Badjohn007 11 months ago
@Badjohn007 Environment is only a sure indicator of habit i.e. culture in species governed by instinct as opposed to intellect. I consciously chose to wear what I wear while you simply blindly dress according to the culture or environment created for you by your prior slave master. You are upset with the way I chose to dress because it does not conform with the societal standard that is a prerequisite for the slave mentality ordained by the mostly White non-Muslim manufacturers in the USA.
VoyageIslam 11 months ago
@VoyageIslam Culture is the culmination of HABITS over a period of time that was dictated by ENVIRONMENT. All people around the world developed an environment appropriate dress code that over time became culturally identifiable. Do you live in a dessert?
Badjohn007 11 months ago
@Badjohn007 How did you culture accumulate? The answer is via slavery this is why you promote emulating your former slave owners (a charge you have not denied.) Dessert?
Dessert - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In Western culture, dessert is a course that typically comes at the end of a meal.....
VoyageIslam 11 months ago
@VoyageIslam You have a knack for focusing on the unimportant like clothes and typos, of which you've had several I have a substantive argument that need not split hairs nor play games of semantics. While you're in the dictionary look up CIRCUMLOCUTION. It sums you up well. My culture is Happiness, love, knowledge and success. There is no patent or set way for these things to manifest. and be expressed.
Badjohn007 11 months ago
@Badjohn007 Excuse me you directed this conversation to the subject of clothing and I exhaustively explained why I chose to do so but when I ask you about your choice of dress you cower. You say it is about happiness, so if a junkie or a drug dealer are happy is that O.K.? If you say no it is a contradiction of your statement: "My culture is Happiness, love, knowledge and success. There is no patent or set way for these things to manifest. and be expressed."
VoyageIslam 11 months ago
nice videos brother and good lessons
may God bless you
Salam
mustno3 11 months ago
where can I get the clear recitation at the beginning?
muslim9x9x 11 months ago
@muslim9x9x It sounds best in Mecca but try Islamiccity.
VoyageIslam 11 months ago