This is a very bad remake... the voice of gray fox is patetic... the PSone was incredible( a "true" human-cyborg) style voice...
Note that liquid voice is just the same of PSone version, why not gray's fox voice..?
Then when MGear Rex hits gray fox in the "cube" version with the laser gray fox cryes like a baby and stops a second...again...check the PSone version, he is unstopable no matter if he loses the arm, gray fox dont pause a second he atacks with all conviction.. !!
@2kjoakin this sucks , horrible remake its lame hollywood crap no substance at all the way they made it , the whole point of why mgs1 was so great was the way it was directed to be inspirational and it felt like a serious movie with proper charecter to it and real emotion to it but this remake is terrible.
on the back of the cover of the twin snakes it says that its metal gear solid and metal gear solid 2 but i see no metal gear 2 anywere on both those disks this game ripped me off!!!!!
When Snake picks up the sword you realised what he means by putting the sword down and not using but in MGS2 because he says to raiden when he gives him that sword:"I'm not a fan of blades."
CAPCBMERRITT ,Solid Snake's costume and Gray Fox's exoskeleton have been changed, because the player is playing this game for the third time. If you finish the game with both Endings, your characters will have different appearances on your third time playing this game. That's why Solid Snake is wearing a tuxedo and Gray Fox's exoskeleton has different colors. Also, if you finish the game with the "Meryl Ending" twice, Meryl obtains a feminine version of Solid Snake's sneaking suit.
Me too, and the one that Ocelot says You're pretty good, just what I $%&/( ( sorry I speak spanish and I didn't remember how to wrote it ) from the man with the same code as the boss.
lol ok lets get things in order. The orig msuic was mostly beeps. becuz its MIDI. you guys might no tliek the new stuff but it takes alot of work for the new songs. (Music major here). i like the remake cuz of the graphics. i can see face expressions!! someone complained that it didnt look real anymore. He is a cyborg ninja..fighting a huge walkng tank. none of its gonna look real thus the name sci fi.last some said somin about blood....duh! u get shot and crushed and dont bleed? Thank you.
boooooo sorry but this sucks, i dont like twin snakes its to me a insult to the original, the voices are different and to much action the original looks like the crammed it all in wth as much pointless action and blood then was needed i prefer the original voice graphics and action then this
All this fanboy bullshit aside (I swear, you PS1 fanboys would think the original is better even if it was non stop 8 hour turd dropping, same goes for GC) this game looks better and such. But the whole matrix cool moves thing made it seem unrealistic. I really dont see the problem of this Fox's voice, it sounds good. They're just about on par in terms of quality, so its all preference. Either way, play this if you're a huge MGS fan and want to see it all.
I know, but that's not what I meant! Gray Fox only sounded like a blackman when he spoke as "Deepthroat". His voice sounded exactly like Donald Anderson. That was the only flaw I noticed, because even I believed that the DARPA chief was still alive. But when he speaks as the Cyborg Ninja Gray Fox, George Byrd's voice suits him very very well!
wow, why wont everyone here just chill and like the games for what they are rather than just nitch and squabble childishly over which is better? I keep expecting to read someone say 'my penis is bigger than YOUR penis!' lol
Fox's wasent the only voice they improved on. In the original Snakes voice lacked the gruffy toutch to it that snake is known for. Naomi sounded like a chick from Fable, And they made Mei Ling sound like she was just impored to america that day of shadow moses. Anyone that looks at the games for what they are will know what im talking about
However, I do prefer some things in the original I am not a ps1 hater... Im just tired of all the people bashing TTS's for everything that it improved on
"However, I do prefer some things in the original I am not a ps1 hater... Im just tired of all the people bashing TTS's for everything that it improved on"
Yep absolutely, I'am fucking tired of it too. And yes, I too realize there are few things about the original that are better than the remake but not much.
JonathanFerGold - heh. Its nice to meet a smart person on youtube. Original one cutscene was ALOT better then TTS though lol member when snake flips out n pulls the gun on baker in TTS? lol kina outa character imo
but other then that, If you are reading this havent played mgs1 yet(for some reason) Play TTS. More up to date and playing through the game is funner.
"JonathanFerGold - heh. Its nice to meet a smart person on youtube."
I know right? There are alot of fucking idiots on YouTube and across the gaming community that say the stupidest shit like "MGS1 for PS1 being better than TTS" and "RE4 be the best RE" without back up. Gamers with those comment have no fucking idea what they are talking about. I wish only death for them. I know it's radical but idc.
He sounds perfect in every way in TTS. in the original not only does he sound like hes black, but they really went too far with trying to make him sound like he was choking. He sounded like he was sucking cock all the time
I'm sorry about replying to your comment after 4 Months, but... In the PSOne version, Gray Fox only sounded "black" when he spoke as Deepthroat. That was the only flaw in his voice. That's why they switched the voice actor. But they shouldn't have picked Rob Paulsen for the entire job.
Yeah he sounded black in the PSOne version, but he also sounded so much more dramatic and heavy with emotion... this guy sounds stale in my opinion. Also I'm not a fan of them changing Liquid's line from "he prayed for death and it found him!"... the new one sounds like they're trying too hard.
I'm a bit in the middle. I really like the new action sequence, but I like the original voice for Grey Fox. Don't get me wrong. Rob Paulsen is a great voice actor and has his moments ("A cornered fox..." and his final speech for examples), but he didn't sounded as insane and tormented as Greg Eagles did (especially when he's talking about Naomi). Everything else was good. Too bad I don't own a gamecube.
But not black. Also Rob Paulsen's voice work had more in common with Gray Fox's anime styled portrait from the PS2 version of Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake than a black man such as Greg Eagles (George Byrd).
MetalGearSolidRaiden or whatever your name is, Gray Fox has a red exoskeleton and Solid Snake has a tuxedo because this player surpassed both endings and he's now playing the third game.
I bought the GC only to play this game.I finished The Twin Snakes a few times and thenI sold the GC together with TTS. I expected that the cinematics and voice acting's were better than the original, but it wasnt imo. Gray Fox's voice was much cooler inthe original.
Iexpected that the game play would be on par with MGS2, but unfortunately it wasnt. When you got cought, the backup-forces appeared outof nowhere.
I get goose bums during the cutscenes inMGS1, and thatis what I miss in TTS.
Or he sounded like a black man in a white man's body. That's why George Byrd sucks as the Ninja and that Rob Paulsen was better. George Byrd did excellent Donald Andersons and Peter Stillmans because they were black.
Your explanation is absolutely incorrect, with the sole purpose of "putting down" the origin of this remake. I bet if you were playing the original Super Mario Brothers, you would have a different false oppinion.
Ok just for the ones that dont know twin snakes is not a remake of the psx but it's the "original" formula that they had for the metal gear solid. they took lots of things off the psx version because it was too much "american hero can do anything" type of thing but decided to to do it on better graphics for the gc. I'll probably dont come here ever again cause I only see you tube videos one time xD but thought it was worthy to say
How can I be a GC hater if I own a GC? Plus I really like that game =] It's like RE4, Leon never uses the stais, he prefers to jump from really high windows without taking damage.
*Sighs* Oh brother..... The Twin Snakes only emphasis' stealth action. RE4 never emphasised ammo conversation like it's predecessors. Dude, don't even mention RE4 in a MG chat area. It's enough I fight with everyone else in the RE rooms that are pro-RE4.
Dude if you're gonna comment my post at least read it right ¬¬ I'm not comparing MG:TS with RE4. If you read my first post you'll probably get what I was saying *sigh*
Gee you're a little slow? don't want to pick up a fight with anyone. okay let's go: first of all that wasn't my first comment. The first one was where I was talking about the interview where they say that this was the idea they had for the MGS.
You mean this: ""How can I be a GC hater if I own a GC? Plus I really like that game =] It's like RE4, Leon never uses the stais, he prefers to jump from really high windows without taking damage." is a quote from Hideo Kojima? How the fuck was I supposed to know? Your punctuation sucks bro....
"Gee you're a little slow? don't want to pick up a fight with anyone. okay let's go: first of all that wasn't my first comment. The first one was where I was talking about the interview where they say that this was the idea they had for the MGS."
Are you talking about this comment: "How can I be a GC hater if I own a GC? Plus I really like that game =] It's like RE4, Leon never uses the stais, he prefers to jump from really high windows without taking damage."?
they changed it because it was too much american hero can do it all and put a more "realistic" version.(and by the way I'm NOT saying thet Twin Snakes is this PS version, just saying it came off from this idea). But decided to release it with the better graphics and changing some dialogues for the GC. Great Idea, Thank you Konami this game rocks a**
Really? You're so funny. guess I'm gonna cry in my room and become a emo.
just because you can't understand simple things you try to act smart. I'm done here, like I said before(you know what's first right?) I only watch you tube videos once
Why Leon? Because in RE4 he IS "american hero can do it all" It doesn't matter if it is a huge tower with a convenient ladder to go down, he prefers jumping from the highest window without taking damage.
"How can I be a GC hater if I own a GC? Plus I really like that game =] It's like RE4, Leon never uses the stais, he prefers to jump from really high windows without taking damage."
I think the comment about RE4 being like MGS1 was totally unnecessary. It's totally irrelevant to your initial argument about MGS1 for GC. You like The Twin Snakes believing it is like RE4? How is it like RE4? I noticed you mentioned Leon jumping out windows over using the stairs but why would you say that?
Some might think that gc version has better graphics but i think they dont look so realistic so thats why psx versions graphics are better. And the psx version has better music. Even though the gc version may have more action it is very slow and it takes the intense of the game. And the gc version is not so dramatic. And the voice actors sounds like that they are just reading their lines from paper without any kind of acting.
"cause originals are always better" what kind of bullshit reasoning is that? Hey, why do you believe that the original one is better? Is it the graphics, acting, gameplay elements, dialogue? "LOL BEWCUZ ORIGINAL IS BETTER LOL".
That's what you ignorantly think. But I'm not anti-Nintendo, for you information. You can't assume things without confirmation first. See if you learn to inform yourself properly next time.
This was the HUGE difference between the remake and the original, in the ending where Fox dies, instead of talking like normal, you can tell he's dying, his voice raspy, exhausted, and choking on his own blood. His eye taken out, and his electronic eye destroyed, which makes a better reason to have his mask open. Fox is one major bad ass, and he will ALWAYS be remembered by Metal Gear fans!!!!
I got your back RoyCampbell333, as I just spun around your oppositions with real facts. And yes you are right with your argument. But just remember: The Twin Snakes has it's slight share of cons too.
Better voices, my butt! If there's anything "The Twin Snakes" doesn't have compared to the original game is realistic voice acting. Even a 12 year old child can notice how fake the voice acting is in the GameCube remake.
RoyCampbell333, aren't you the same user who said "I have the original PS1 version. I love it aswell"? You sound like a true hypocrite to me. In fact, you sound like somebody who hasn't even tried the original game before. That's the proof of your hypocrisy.
You dont be a dumbass, kid. The same game with better graphics, enhanced sound, better more baddasss changes to the dialouge, all make it less childish. "im the fool your uncle sent to this mess" -ps1 GC=( Im the fool your uncle sent to this hellhole).. originals are not "always" better. I have not seen one game where the remake isint better.
Those are not remakes. Those are rehashes..... Big difference. Remakes and rehashes are not the same at all. Metal Gear 1 for NES is not a remake of Metal Gear 1 for MSX2, it's a rehash. CV:Dracula X is not a remake of Dracula X for the PCE, it's a rehash. Now MGS1 and RE1 for GC..... Those are remakes to the PS1 versions.
That's not a remake. That's a rehash..... Big difference. Remakes and rehashes are not the same at all. Metal Gear 1 for NES is not a remake of Metal Gear 1 for MSX2, it's a rehash. CV:Dracula X is not a remake of Dracula X for the PCE, it's a rehash. Now MGS1 and RE1 for GC..... Those are remakes to the PS1 versions.
Speaking of video games only, you are correct. Though The Twin Snakes IS a much better stealth action game, there are very few of the PS1's pros that The Twin Snakes lacks. However ultimately, The Twin Snakes is a much better game than the PS1 version, thus a choice over the PS1 version.
No way. The Twin Snakes is more true to MGS gameplay than the PS1 version. You can't even fucking walk in the PS1 version so really you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. And for that, your comment against RoyCampbell333 is null and void.
RoyCampbell333, he is jealous he doesn't own a Game Cube to play the exclusive The Twin Snakes titles. Everybody knows in their hearts that The Twin Snakes has more pros than cons while the PS1 version (Without the tradition of a subtitle) has more cons than pros.
Sorry quackajack13z, but no way. The Twin Snakes is overall a better game. The Twin Snakes has more pros than cons, while that piece of garbage classic without the subtitle that goes against the canon of future Metal Gear title names has more cons than pros.
Way to repeat the same fucking comment twice. I'm not even going to get into the real reasons for why the original's better. Cuz a faggot like you wouldn't even appreciate that. So, I'll just list the technical stuff- Twin's gameplay doesn't even fit with the original game's level design, so it's all unbalanced and awkward
- The boss battles are fucking raped- In the Ocelot fight, he runs slower than you rather than faster(like in the original game).(cont.)
"Twin's gameplay doesn't even fit with the original game's level design, so it's all unbalanced and awkward"
What are you talking about? The level design was no different than Sons of Liberty's. If anything, the gameplay in the PS1 is unbalanced because of the restrictions of not being able to walk, which is an obvious action for anybody on noise-making grounds. In real life, nobody would run across a noise-making balcany like the one in the Tank Hanger for example.
Wow, you're fucking retard. By level design, I mean they use the original game's exact layout- which was made for the original's gameplay, Not Twin's. As a result it can get awkward. I'm not the only who's noticed and mentioned this.
"Wow, you're fucking retard. By level design, I mean they use the original game's exact layout- which was made for the original's gameplay, Not Twin's. As a result it can get awkward. I'm not the only who's noticed and mentioned this."
But why change the level design? It wasn't any easier than Sons of Liberty's.
"The boss battles are fucking raped- In the Ocelot fight, he runs slower than you rather than faster(like in the original game)."
So? It's anybody's choice not to play the game, exploiting the glitches of the boss fights. Why are you complaining about the boss battle's glitches when anyone whose anyone has the the total option of NOT exploiting them?
If a game is good, it shouldn't have to adapt to you. You should adapt to it. That was a fancy way of saying this game is fucked. Besides, the original didn't have this fucking glitch and the fight was way better.
"If a game is good, it shouldn't have to adapt to you. You should adapt to it. That was a fancy way of saying this game is fucked. Besides, the original didn't have this fucking glitch and the fight was way better."
TTS never asks you to exploit glitches of any kind. While they may be there, the game is never encouraging the use of them. If you decide to use glitches, that's your fault.
"TTS never asks you to exploit glitches of any kind. While they may be there, the game is never encouraging the use of them. If you decide to use glitches, that's your fault"
Like I said, you should not have to work for the game. And it's not just the glitches that ruin that fight.
"TTS never asks you to exploit glitches of any kind. While they may be there, the game is never encouraging the use of them. If you decide to use glitches, that's your fault."
And besides, Jonathan, now that I think about it, that's not even a glitch. It's failed developing. They just straight up ruined Ocelot.
I think the Ocelot fight in TTS was just as wicked as it was in the original, only now you can fight him "MGS2" style. These so-called "glitches" (Although I can attest to) do not ruin the game whatsoever. Remakes are not perfect.... Not even the RE1 remake for the Game Cube was perfect.
"I think the Ocelot fight in TTS was just as wicked as it was in the original, only now you can fight him "MGS2" style. These so-called "glitches" (Although I can attest to) do not ruin the game whatsoever. Remakes are not perfect.... Not even the RE1 remake for the Game Cube was perfect."
'Perfect' and 'TTS' shouldn't even be in the same sentence. Ocelot is fucked in Twin, admit it.
There's always be SOMETHINGS better about the original than TTS but not MOST things. And I with you to an extent, there are certainly things about the PS1 original that are better than the TTS. For example, the Briefing option in the PS1 version.... I liked it better.
"There's always be SOMETHINGS better about the original than TTS but not MOST things. And I with you to an extent, there are certainly things about the PS1 original that are better than the TTS. For example, the Briefing option in the PS1 version.... I liked it better." To me, the raped briefing is a big reason for why I hate TTS. But, that's just one reason out of like...1 mil.
(cont.)This allows you to catch up to him and molest him with gunshots. Not only that, unlike the original game, he doesn't counter-shoot. And that's just Ocelot; the others have their problems as well -There are glitches in the AI and doesn't run as smooth as MGS2. -Graphics suck balls compared MGS2, as well. Where as the original's were state of the art for their time. (cont.)
This is a very bad remake... the voice of gray fox is patetic... the PSone was incredible( a "true" human-cyborg) style voice...
Note that liquid voice is just the same of PSone version, why not gray's fox voice..?
Then when MGear Rex hits gray fox in the "cube" version with the laser gray fox cryes like a baby and stops a second...again...check the PSone version, he is unstopable no matter if he loses the arm, gray fox dont pause a second he atacks with all conviction.. !!
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2kjoakin 3 months ago
@2kjoakin this sucks , horrible remake its lame hollywood crap no substance at all the way they made it , the whole point of why mgs1 was so great was the way it was directed to be inspirational and it felt like a serious movie with proper charecter to it and real emotion to it but this remake is terrible.
MF91ADL 1 month ago
Who needs a sneaking suit for a 100 milion dollor like mission? not snake!
jm42fun 1 year ago
Anyone notice that in the start he looked like spiderman?
jm42fun 1 year ago
Rob Paulsen voices Gray Fox in the Twin Snakes.....he also voiced Pinky from Pinky and the Brain. NARF!
needyhobo 1 year ago
Greay Fox look's like Samus in Metroîd Prime
Whismaster7389 1 year ago
the only reason liquid survived is because he was equiped with rations
ObitoUchihaNP 1 year ago 2
Grande Gray Fox Cyborg Ninja
alarsenal10 2 years ago
yes you can snake don't be a pussy 2:41
raysmashbrawl176 2 years ago
When I was playing this... I couldn't even push the button.
coolforlife64 2 years ago 11
The guy who voiced Gray Fox in this version is named Robert Paulsen....!
protosswannabe 2 years ago
Tell us something we don't know.
filipeflower 2 years ago
@protosswannabe His name is Robert Paulsen, his name is Robert Paulsen!
alexd9999999 1 year ago
@protosswannabe ...and in the old version, he was voiced by Gregg Eagles.
DanielL5583 1 year ago
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on the back of the cover of the twin snakes it says that its metal gear solid and metal gear solid 2 but i see no metal gear 2 anywere on both those disks this game ripped me off!!!!!
Zeroonmus 2 years ago
idoit it's in the way metal gear solid 2 works!
davidpholtz 2 years ago
When Snake picks up the sword you realised what he means by putting the sword down and not using but in MGS2 because he says to raiden when he gives him that sword:"I'm not a fan of blades."
qibman123 3 years ago
It's not the same sword, for your information.
filipeflower 3 years ago
woah what's up Fox's suit?
CAPCBMERRITT 3 years ago
CAPCBMERRITT ,Solid Snake's costume and Gray Fox's exoskeleton have been changed, because the player is playing this game for the third time. If you finish the game with both Endings, your characters will have different appearances on your third time playing this game. That's why Solid Snake is wearing a tuxedo and Gray Fox's exoskeleton has different colors. Also, if you finish the game with the "Meryl Ending" twice, Meryl obtains a feminine version of Solid Snake's sneaking suit.
filipeflower 3 years ago
you kill liquid like a bjillion times then he finally dies from a snowmobile crash
Huddiethegreat 3 years ago
Didn't he die from Foxdie?
Kalnor 3 years ago 3
he dies from foxdie
Dyebre 3 years ago
Its just like one of my japanese animes
scrulez111 3 years ago
The Twin Snakes is a great game though the original is much better, it gets too much criticism.
Zepp900 3 years ago 3
In the Middle East we don't hunt foxes, we hunt jackals. Instead of fox hounds we use royal harriers.
I like this prase
ZegramBlackWolf 3 years ago
Me too, and the one that Ocelot says You're pretty good, just what I $%&/( ( sorry I speak spanish and I didn't remember how to wrote it ) from the man with the same code as the boss.
ratenixx 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
the remake got more action and its truly the best mgs version
shiekta 3 years ago
In your opinion.
filipeflower 3 years ago 8
Wow, way different from what I can remember, thanks for rekindling old memories, good ones at that! :D
chickenme50 3 years ago
snaaaaaaaake its not over yet
damit not gray fox
he was so kool
nic0dem8D 3 years ago
he returns in metal gera solid 4 YAY
IronMan44444 3 years ago
WTF HAX YAY
nic0dem8D 3 years ago
Solid Snake returns (as Old Snake), but Gray Fox is dead.
filipeflower 3 years ago
lol ok lets get things in order. The orig msuic was mostly beeps. becuz its MIDI. you guys might no tliek the new stuff but it takes alot of work for the new songs. (Music major here). i like the remake cuz of the graphics. i can see face expressions!! someone complained that it didnt look real anymore. He is a cyborg ninja..fighting a huge walkng tank. none of its gonna look real thus the name sci fi.last some said somin about blood....duh! u get shot and crushed and dont bleed? Thank you.
MonkeyPowers 3 years ago
What do you mean "don't bleed" ?
filipeflower 3 years ago
saying basic... Can u get shot and lose an arm and not bleed. im asking.
MonkeyPowers 3 years ago
I don't see what's the point in asking an obvious question.
filipeflower 3 years ago
lol well people are saying omg theres too much blood!!! and stuff. its like come on guys he lost an ARM
MonkeyPowers 3 years ago
I never said that.
filipeflower 3 years ago
SNAKKKEEE!
Riken 3 years ago
boooooo sorry but this sucks, i dont like twin snakes its to me a insult to the original, the voices are different and to much action the original looks like the crammed it all in wth as much pointless action and blood then was needed i prefer the original voice graphics and action then this
obiwan1013 4 years ago
Well, there is an option in 'The Twin Snakes' which allows you to turn off the blood, but the blood still appears in the CutScenes.
filipeflower 4 years ago
how did they do that? i watched the orig of this. boring. the cam is shitty. he jumps in gets shot and its over. they show the fight in the new one.
MonkeyPowers 3 years ago
That's a very immature explanation, if you ask me.
filipeflower 3 years ago
man, when i first saw this I thought Snake was about to use the sword and kick some ass, but he sets it back down again, wtf?
Delex2002 4 years ago
"He's not a big fan of blades."
filipeflower 4 years ago
as so said in sons of liberty
Palmer3625 4 years ago
If Solid Snake took that katana as an object for revenge, then he would become a total hypocrite.
filipeflower 4 years ago
Man, i haven't said this yet and haven't for years but...
REX HAS A PEN0R LASER LULZ.
ahh yes.
Chyaku 4 years ago
yeah... I know... nice location for a powerful laser...
Luinedhel111 4 years ago
All this fanboy bullshit aside (I swear, you PS1 fanboys would think the original is better even if it was non stop 8 hour turd dropping, same goes for GC) this game looks better and such. But the whole matrix cool moves thing made it seem unrealistic. I really dont see the problem of this Fox's voice, it sounds good. They're just about on par in terms of quality, so its all preference. Either way, play this if you're a huge MGS fan and want to see it all.
WHATISUTUBE 4 years ago
If you listen to Gray Fox's voice in the original game and compare it to this one, you'll see the difference.
filipeflower 4 years ago
Hurr you think maybe I DID and I PLAYED IT ALL ALSO.
WHATISUTUBE 4 years ago
I know, but that's not what I meant! Gray Fox only sounded like a blackman when he spoke as "Deepthroat". His voice sounded exactly like Donald Anderson. That was the only flaw I noticed, because even I believed that the DARPA chief was still alive. But when he speaks as the Cyborg Ninja Gray Fox, George Byrd's voice suits him very very well!
filipeflower 4 years ago
I prefer the PlayStation version......
(Eu prefiro a versão do PlayStation....)
androh530 4 years ago 2
wow, why wont everyone here just chill and like the games for what they are rather than just nitch and squabble childishly over which is better? I keep expecting to read someone say 'my penis is bigger than YOUR penis!' lol
birkinsmith88 4 years ago
"'my penis is bigger than YOUR penis'" Haven't I seen this line written on someone else's video? I mean, this is not even your own quote, is it ?
filipeflower 4 years ago
LMFAO!
n1g3ld34c0n 3 years ago
If this user was trying to establish a point, he could have been more original than that.
filipeflower 3 years ago
all u see is fox dodging the bullets and the REX's laser basts him
poor bastard
hunter017 4 years ago
the original had better music, for example Gray Foxes last words seem to have more meaning becuzz of the original music
XRontix 4 years ago
Fox's wasent the only voice they improved on. In the original Snakes voice lacked the gruffy toutch to it that snake is known for. Naomi sounded like a chick from Fable, And they made Mei Ling sound like she was just impored to america that day of shadow moses. Anyone that looks at the games for what they are will know what im talking about
RoyCampbell333 4 years ago
However, I do prefer some things in the original I am not a ps1 hater... Im just tired of all the people bashing TTS's for everything that it improved on
RoyCampbell333 4 years ago
"However, I do prefer some things in the original I am not a ps1 hater... Im just tired of all the people bashing TTS's for everything that it improved on"
Yep absolutely, I'am fucking tired of it too. And yes, I too realize there are few things about the original that are better than the remake but not much.
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
And I'll point one of them out. The Tank Hanger music was better in the PS1 version than in the remake.
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
Yep and you're right. I agree 110%
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
JonathanFerGold - heh. Its nice to meet a smart person on youtube. Original one cutscene was ALOT better then TTS though lol member when snake flips out n pulls the gun on baker in TTS? lol kina outa character imo
RoyCampbell333 4 years ago
but other then that, If you are reading this havent played mgs1 yet(for some reason) Play TTS. More up to date and playing through the game is funner.
RoyCampbell333 4 years ago
Spare me the propaganda, Okay ?
filipeflower 4 years ago
"Original one cutscene was ALOT better then TTS though lol member when snake flips out n pulls the gun on baker in TTS? lol kina outa character imo"
You're right. Unfortunately, I vaguely remember it because I haven't played the game in 4 years.
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
"JonathanFerGold - heh. Its nice to meet a smart person on youtube."
I know right? There are alot of fucking idiots on YouTube and across the gaming community that say the stupidest shit like "MGS1 for PS1 being better than TTS" and "RE4 be the best RE" without back up. Gamers with those comment have no fucking idea what they are talking about. I wish only death for them. I know it's radical but idc.
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
That's the proof of your immaturity right there.
filipeflower 4 years ago 2
Opinion or not, he sounded tortured in the Game Cube version too. You can't deny that one, jack.
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
He sounds perfect in every way in TTS. in the original not only does he sound like hes black, but they really went too far with trying to make him sound like he was choking. He sounded like he was sucking cock all the time
RoyCampbell333 4 years ago
OMG! That is so funny and true RoyCampbell333. George Byrd was sucking cock during the recordings in the voice work studio.... LMFAO!
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
How? Gray Fox sounded like a black man in the PS1 version.
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
I'm sorry about replying to your comment after 4 Months, but... In the PSOne version, Gray Fox only sounded "black" when he spoke as Deepthroat. That was the only flaw in his voice. That's why they switched the voice actor. But they shouldn't have picked Rob Paulsen for the entire job.
filipeflower 4 years ago
Yeah he sounded black in the PSOne version, but he also sounded so much more dramatic and heavy with emotion... this guy sounds stale in my opinion. Also I'm not a fan of them changing Liquid's line from "he prayed for death and it found him!"... the new one sounds like they're trying too hard.
sanzar 4 years ago
They just decided to use a different translation to fit the original Japanese dialogue.
filipeflower 4 years ago
.... He's dead already! Shoot dammit!
BluePlue 4 years ago
shame the dude died before he could voice him a second time -_-
birkinsmith88 4 years ago
Guess what? Greg Eagles a.k.a. George Byrd did not die. He is infact alive and well.
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
Saddens me alot to see him die...
Luinedhel111 4 years ago
Why does grey fox have a different colour of costume?
cameronbros 4 years ago
Its just an alternate costume you can unlock for him. Same for the tux that Snake wears.
CheezyMastah 4 years ago
I actually like Gray Foxes voice better in Twin Snakes
Snakekillerrrr 4 years ago
Of course, they chose a more suitable voice actor over its PS1 counterpart. He sounded like a black man in the PS1 version.
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
Matrix
heardofrvb 4 years ago
I'm a bit in the middle. I really like the new action sequence, but I like the original voice for Grey Fox. Don't get me wrong. Rob Paulsen is a great voice actor and has his moments ("A cornered fox..." and his final speech for examples), but he didn't sounded as insane and tormented as Greg Eagles did (especially when he's talking about Naomi). Everything else was good. Too bad I don't own a gamecube.
POLE7645 4 years ago
Gray Fox sounded like a black man in the PS1 version. THAT is a bad thing. Clearly, Rob Paulsen did a better job.
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
Grey Fox was supposed to be half-white. Half-Vietnamese, Half-German-American.
POLE7645 4 years ago
But not black. Also Rob Paulsen's voice work had more in common with Gray Fox's anime styled portrait from the PS2 version of Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake than a black man such as Greg Eagles (George Byrd).
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
gray fox my fav. it would've be kewl to see him in mgs2 subsistence. but i guess raiden took his place
Raidenx89 4 years ago
Why is the color of the exoskeleton diffrent from the color of most other videos about Gray Fox ???
MetalGearSolidRaiden 4 years ago
MetalGearSolidRaiden or whatever your name is, Gray Fox has a red exoskeleton and Solid Snake has a tuxedo because this player surpassed both endings and he's now playing the third game.
filipeflower 4 years ago
His voice in the original was better, he sounded black =)
TurnXTop 4 years ago
Sorry now I now why the color is differnet...and I like both vioces !!!
MetalGearSolidRaiden 4 years ago
So THIS is why snake says he wasn't a blade fan in MGS2, The blade reminds him what of happened to Gray Fox.
Darthgrievous13 4 years ago
I bought the GC only to play this game.I finished The Twin Snakes a few times and thenI sold the GC together with TTS. I expected that the cinematics and voice acting's were better than the original, but it wasnt imo. Gray Fox's voice was much cooler inthe original.
Iexpected that the game play would be on par with MGS2, but unfortunately it wasnt. When you got cought, the backup-forces appeared outof nowhere.
I get goose bums during the cutscenes inMGS1, and thatis what I miss in TTS.
dolemite0 4 years ago
Foxs voice sucks in the remake the Ps1 version was way better!
quikbill123 5 years ago
in the psx he sounded like he was choking on something even when he wasent dying
RoyCampbell333 4 years ago
Or he sounded like a black man in a white man's body. That's why George Byrd sucks as the Ninja and that Rob Paulsen was better. George Byrd did excellent Donald Andersons and Peter Stillmans because they were black.
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
Your explanation is absolutely incorrect, with the sole purpose of "putting down" the origin of this remake. I bet if you were playing the original Super Mario Brothers, you would have a different false oppinion.
filipeflower 3 years ago
He sounds like a black man in the PS1. How is that better?
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
How is it worse?
WHATISUTUBE 4 years ago
Ok just for the ones that dont know twin snakes is not a remake of the psx but it's the "original" formula that they had for the metal gear solid. they took lots of things off the psx version because it was too much "american hero can do anything" type of thing but decided to to do it on better graphics for the gc. I'll probably dont come here ever again cause I only see you tube videos one time xD but thought it was worthy to say
2CoolKazinhu 5 years ago
lol i say tts is more american hero can do anything. most of the gc haters complain cause he does to much. nonsense.
RoyCampbell333 4 years ago
How can I be a GC hater if I own a GC? Plus I really like that game =] It's like RE4, Leon never uses the stais, he prefers to jump from really high windows without taking damage.
2CoolKazinhu 4 years ago
No bro i wasent aiming to call u a gc hater my bad
RoyCampbell333 4 years ago
*Sighs* Oh brother..... The Twin Snakes only emphasis' stealth action. RE4 never emphasised ammo conversation like it's predecessors. Dude, don't even mention RE4 in a MG chat area. It's enough I fight with everyone else in the RE rooms that are pro-RE4.
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
Dude if you're gonna comment my post at least read it right ¬¬ I'm not comparing MG:TS with RE4. If you read my first post you'll probably get what I was saying *sigh*
2CoolKazinhu 4 years ago
Ok then I'll read it again if it'll satisfy you. Most likely I read it properly
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
OKay Mr. I know it all. suit yourself
2CoolKazinhu 4 years ago
You can't answer my questions, can you? I guess read your comments perfectly fine after all.
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
Gee you're a little slow? don't want to pick up a fight with anyone. okay let's go: first of all that wasn't my first comment. The first one was where I was talking about the interview where they say that this was the idea they had for the MGS.
2CoolKazinhu 4 years ago
You mean this: ""How can I be a GC hater if I own a GC? Plus I really like that game =] It's like RE4, Leon never uses the stais, he prefers to jump from really high windows without taking damage." is a quote from Hideo Kojima? How the fuck was I supposed to know? Your punctuation sucks bro....
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
"Gee you're a little slow? don't want to pick up a fight with anyone. okay let's go: first of all that wasn't my first comment. The first one was where I was talking about the interview where they say that this was the idea they had for the MGS."
Are you talking about this comment: "How can I be a GC hater if I own a GC? Plus I really like that game =] It's like RE4, Leon never uses the stais, he prefers to jump from really high windows without taking damage."?
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
they changed it because it was too much american hero can do it all and put a more "realistic" version.(and by the way I'm NOT saying thet Twin Snakes is this PS version, just saying it came off from this idea). But decided to release it with the better graphics and changing some dialogues for the GC. Great Idea, Thank you Konami this game rocks a**
2CoolKazinhu 4 years ago
Dude, I can't read typical online chicken scratch that 12 year olds usually type in.
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
Really? You're so funny. guess I'm gonna cry in my room and become a emo.
just because you can't understand simple things you try to act smart. I'm done here, like I said before(you know what's first right?) I only watch you tube videos once
2CoolKazinhu 4 years ago
Dude, you compared RE4 to TTS....
I still don't get that.
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
What the fuck's an emo?
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
Why Leon? Because in RE4 he IS "american hero can do it all" It doesn't matter if it is a huge tower with a convenient ladder to go down, he prefers jumping from the highest window without taking damage.
2CoolKazinhu 4 years ago
"How can I be a GC hater if I own a GC? Plus I really like that game =] It's like RE4, Leon never uses the stais, he prefers to jump from really high windows without taking damage."
I think the comment about RE4 being like MGS1 was totally unnecessary. It's totally irrelevant to your initial argument about MGS1 for GC. You like The Twin Snakes believing it is like RE4? How is it like RE4? I noticed you mentioned Leon jumping out windows over using the stairs but why would you say that?
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
they're both bad-ass games of the same series so STFU and have fun MGS style
generalwolf 5 years ago
Yeah, seriously! COME ON GUYS, CAN'T WE ALL GET ALONG?
ZarlaSheenaza 5 years ago
Some might think that gc version has better graphics but i think they dont look so realistic so thats why psx versions graphics are better. And the psx version has better music. Even though the gc version may have more action it is very slow and it takes the intense of the game. And the gc version is not so dramatic. And the voice actors sounds like that they are just reading their lines from paper without any kind of acting.
hydeoholic 5 years ago
the ps1 will always be the best cause the originals are always better. They felt sorry for gamecube fans and made it for gamecube too.
jigsaw213 5 years ago
"cause originals are always better" what kind of bullshit reasoning is that? Hey, why do you believe that the original one is better? Is it the graphics, acting, gameplay elements, dialogue? "LOL BEWCUZ ORIGINAL IS BETTER LOL".
WHATISUTUBE 4 years ago
I believe its based upon his own sense of nostalgia, he prefers it the way he originally experienced it.
Padboy 4 years ago
GC and PS fanboys will never live in the same house ever.
jdawg2o4 5 years ago
Apparently. Jeez.
ZarlaSheenaza 5 years ago
Well PS1 fans are jealous that they don't own the better game bc they are anti-Nintendo. It's THAT simple.
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
And they strike again. I'm not anti-Nintendo anyway.
jdawg2o4 4 years ago
You are beeing so stereotypical, just like the rest of Americans I met on this website.
filipeflower 4 years ago
That's what you ignorantly think. But I'm not anti-Nintendo, for you information. You can't assume things without confirmation first. See if you learn to inform yourself properly next time.
filipeflower 3 years ago
This was the HUGE difference between the remake and the original, in the ending where Fox dies, instead of talking like normal, you can tell he's dying, his voice raspy, exhausted, and choking on his own blood. His eye taken out, and his electronic eye destroyed, which makes a better reason to have his mask open. Fox is one major bad ass, and he will ALWAYS be remembered by Metal Gear fans!!!!
OmegaXIII 5 years ago
Yeah. He talks too fast and too healthy in this version.
DonZabu 4 years ago
Too fast, too healthy? Somehow I doubt that. He sounded pretty tortured to me.
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
Twin Snakes blows the original away you guys are just mad cause something beats ur shitty ps1 version
hyped action
better voices
better graphics
better sound
tranq guns
RoyCampbell333 5 years ago
I got your back RoyCampbell333, as I just spun around your oppositions with real facts. And yes you are right with your argument. But just remember: The Twin Snakes has it's slight share of cons too.
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
Better voices, my butt! If there's anything "The Twin Snakes" doesn't have compared to the original game is realistic voice acting. Even a 12 year old child can notice how fake the voice acting is in the GameCube remake.
filipeflower 4 years ago
RoyCampbell333, aren't you the same user who said "I have the original PS1 version. I love it aswell"? You sound like a true hypocrite to me. In fact, you sound like somebody who hasn't even tried the original game before. That's the proof of your hypocrisy.
filipeflower 3 years ago
LOL TUXEDO XD
jenz33 5 years ago
"LOL", RED NINJA EXOSKELETON XD
filipeflower 4 years ago
Twin Snakes sucks so much fucking cock.
quackajack13z 5 years ago
Fuck you. why cause it has better graphics? or cause ur mad something beats ur shitty ps1 version
RoyCampbell333 5 years ago
Don't be a dumbass kid. the ps1 verison is way fuckin better. i played them both.
ctkgod 5 years ago
You dont be a dumbass, kid. The same game with better graphics, enhanced sound, better more baddasss changes to the dialouge, all make it less childish. "im the fool your uncle sent to this mess" -ps1 GC=( Im the fool your uncle sent to this hellhole).. originals are not "always" better. I have not seen one game where the remake isint better.
RoyCampbell333 5 years ago
What about Game Boy version of GTA?
claisease 4 years ago
or bubble bobble and rainbow islands on the psp those were balls!
JamesRoot01 4 years ago
or the ps1 version of Dark Forces?
DonZabu 4 years ago
Never played Dark Forces but I'm sure it's a rehash of a PC game.
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
Those are not remakes. Those are rehashes..... Big difference. Remakes and rehashes are not the same at all. Metal Gear 1 for NES is not a remake of Metal Gear 1 for MSX2, it's a rehash. CV:Dracula X is not a remake of Dracula X for the PCE, it's a rehash. Now MGS1 and RE1 for GC..... Those are remakes to the PS1 versions.
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
You obviously never heard of 'Metal Gear Solid Integral'.
filipeflower 3 years ago
That's not a remake. That's a rehash..... Big difference. Remakes and rehashes are not the same at all. Metal Gear 1 for NES is not a remake of Metal Gear 1 for MSX2, it's a rehash. CV:Dracula X is not a remake of Dracula X for the PCE, it's a rehash. Now MGS1 and RE1 for GC..... Those are remakes to the PS1 versions.
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
Speaking of video games only, you are correct. Though The Twin Snakes IS a much better stealth action game, there are very few of the PS1's pros that The Twin Snakes lacks. However ultimately, The Twin Snakes is a much better game than the PS1 version, thus a choice over the PS1 version.
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
No way. The Twin Snakes is more true to MGS gameplay than the PS1 version. You can't even fucking walk in the PS1 version so really you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about. And for that, your comment against RoyCampbell333 is null and void.
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
RoyCampbell333, he is jealous he doesn't own a Game Cube to play the exclusive The Twin Snakes titles. Everybody knows in their hearts that The Twin Snakes has more pros than cons while the PS1 version (Without the tradition of a subtitle) has more cons than pros.
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
Sorry quackajack13z, but no way. The Twin Snakes is overall a better game. The Twin Snakes has more pros than cons, while that piece of garbage classic without the subtitle that goes against the canon of future Metal Gear title names has more cons than pros.
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
Way to repeat the same fucking comment twice. I'm not even going to get into the real reasons for why the original's better. Cuz a faggot like you wouldn't even appreciate that. So, I'll just list the technical stuff- Twin's gameplay doesn't even fit with the original game's level design, so it's all unbalanced and awkward
- The boss battles are fucking raped- In the Ocelot fight, he runs slower than you rather than faster(like in the original game).(cont.)
quackajack13z 4 years ago
By game design, I meant level design..
quackajack13z 4 years ago
Wait, that's what I fuckin said. Nevamind.
quackajack13z 4 years ago
"Twin's gameplay doesn't even fit with the original game's level design, so it's all unbalanced and awkward"
What are you talking about? The level design was no different than Sons of Liberty's. If anything, the gameplay in the PS1 is unbalanced because of the restrictions of not being able to walk, which is an obvious action for anybody on noise-making grounds. In real life, nobody would run across a noise-making balcany like the one in the Tank Hanger for example.
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
Wow, you're fucking retard. By level design, I mean they use the original game's exact layout- which was made for the original's gameplay, Not Twin's. As a result it can get awkward. I'm not the only who's noticed and mentioned this.
quackajack13z 4 years ago
"Wow, you're fucking retard. By level design, I mean they use the original game's exact layout- which was made for the original's gameplay, Not Twin's. As a result it can get awkward. I'm not the only who's noticed and mentioned this."
But why change the level design? It wasn't any easier than Sons of Liberty's.
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
"But why change the level design? It wasn't any easier than Sons of Liberty's"
You don't get. And I don't want to get into it.
quackajack13z 4 years ago
"The boss battles are fucking raped- In the Ocelot fight, he runs slower than you rather than faster(like in the original game)."
So? It's anybody's choice not to play the game, exploiting the glitches of the boss fights. Why are you complaining about the boss battle's glitches when anyone whose anyone has the the total option of NOT exploiting them?
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
If a game is good, it shouldn't have to adapt to you. You should adapt to it. That was a fancy way of saying this game is fucked. Besides, the original didn't have this fucking glitch and the fight was way better.
quackajack13z 4 years ago
"If a game is good, it shouldn't have to adapt to you. You should adapt to it. That was a fancy way of saying this game is fucked. Besides, the original didn't have this fucking glitch and the fight was way better."
TTS never asks you to exploit glitches of any kind. While they may be there, the game is never encouraging the use of them. If you decide to use glitches, that's your fault.
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
"TTS never asks you to exploit glitches of any kind. While they may be there, the game is never encouraging the use of them. If you decide to use glitches, that's your fault"
Like I said, you should not have to work for the game. And it's not just the glitches that ruin that fight.
quackajack13z 4 years ago
"TTS never asks you to exploit glitches of any kind. While they may be there, the game is never encouraging the use of them. If you decide to use glitches, that's your fault."
And besides, Jonathan, now that I think about it, that's not even a glitch. It's failed developing. They just straight up ruined Ocelot.
quackajack13z 4 years ago
I think the Ocelot fight in TTS was just as wicked as it was in the original, only now you can fight him "MGS2" style. These so-called "glitches" (Although I can attest to) do not ruin the game whatsoever. Remakes are not perfect.... Not even the RE1 remake for the Game Cube was perfect.
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
"I think the Ocelot fight in TTS was just as wicked as it was in the original, only now you can fight him "MGS2" style. These so-called "glitches" (Although I can attest to) do not ruin the game whatsoever. Remakes are not perfect.... Not even the RE1 remake for the Game Cube was perfect."
'Perfect' and 'TTS' shouldn't even be in the same sentence. Ocelot is fucked in Twin, admit it.
quackajack13z 4 years ago
There's always be SOMETHINGS better about the original than TTS but not MOST things. And I with you to an extent, there are certainly things about the PS1 original that are better than the TTS. For example, the Briefing option in the PS1 version.... I liked it better.
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
Correction: THERE'LL always be SOMETHINGS better about the original than TTS but not MOST things. And I AGREE with you to an extent.....
JonathanFerGold 4 years ago
"There's always be SOMETHINGS better about the original than TTS but not MOST things. And I with you to an extent, there are certainly things about the PS1 original that are better than the TTS. For example, the Briefing option in the PS1 version.... I liked it better." To me, the raped briefing is a big reason for why I hate TTS. But, that's just one reason out of like...1 mil.
quackajack13z 4 years ago
(cont.)This allows you to catch up to him and molest him with gunshots. Not only that, unlike the original game, he doesn't counter-shoot. And that's just Ocelot; the others have their problems as well -There are glitches in the AI and doesn't run as smooth as MGS2. -Graphics suck balls compared MGS2, as well. Where as the original's were state of the art for their time. (cont.)
quackajack13z 4 years ago